DAT-heads Digest #477, Volume #6 Sat, 21 Sep 02 09:50:00 EDT Contents: ISO David Bowie Tapers from 1997 (JBABC0CK@aol.com) SGI DAT DRIVES $75 W/ 30 DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE ("datman") Steve Earle - Freedom Sings Benefit (Adam McMillen) The Other Ones/ABB Taping ("Dan") ISO: Taper Ticket, Phish 12/31/02 - Shameful Grovel (kfor5311) Scratchiness and diginoise on D7??? ("Bobby Scott") D7---->Mac software (Uri Wassertzug) Fwd: YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK AT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Jesse Scott) RULES / OTHER ONES WHINERS (stuart) Re: Other Ones Taping (Todd Romero) Farm Aid today (Saturday) at 5pm ET ("Gary Davis") David Bowie Paris 1 July 2002 (=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Barnes?=) Vanessa Carlton, Norah Jones and Alicia Keys wanted (=?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Barnes?=) re: TOO taping...do not take up a tapers ticket to PATCH!! (Nick Georges) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JBABC0CK@aol.com Subject: ISO David Bowie Tapers from 1997 Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 21:45:53 -0400 Hello Heads. NPR is reporting all about silicone breast implant lawsuits, but implants seem more popular than ever in my town. Ha! That still cracks me up. Meanwhile... Time for my annual post in search of tapers who got any captures from David Bowie's 1997 Earthling tour.(WAAAAAY back in time, eh?) It was a tough capture-- mostly small clubs, tight security and all that. While quite a few of those shows made it out, still more than 1/2 of the american tour is MIA. If you or anyone you know taped this tour please contact me or drop me a line. Here are the US dates that are still missing or where the existing ones are botched tapes: September 06 Plaza of Nations Vancouver Canada September 07 Paramount Seattle, WA (I know 5 Seattle tapers and no one got this?) September 09 Warfield San Francisco, CA September 10 Hollywood Athletic Club Los Angeles, CA September 12 UA Amphitheater Los Angeles, CA September 13 UA Amphitheater Los Angeles, CA September 15 Warfield San Francisco, CA September 19 Vic Theater Chicago, IL September 21 State Theater Detroit, MI September 24 Metropolis Montreal September 25 Metropolis Montreal October 03 Electric Factory Philadelphia, PA October 07 Chili Pepper Ft. Lauderdale, FL October 08 Chili Pepper Ft. Lauderdale, FL October 12 Capitol Ballroom Washington, DC October 13 The Supper Club New York, NY October 15 Radio City Music Hall New York, NY October 17 Aragon Ballroom Chicago, IL See? A whole LOT of these are still missing! There are a LOT of UK & EURO dates missing, too, if any of you out there in London, Germany or Spain managed to get to a show. Hope to hear from some of you on this. It's been 5 years and I still listen to these shows regularly, but have found them the most difficult things to acquire. Thanks! jonathan ------------------------------ From: "datman" Subject: SGI DAT DRIVES $75 W/ 30 DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 20:52:40 -0500 SGI DAT DRIVE WITH AUDIO SUPPORT CTD8000H-S 3.5" form factor drive with rails and 5.25" bezel (i.e., CTD8000R-S) This Peregrine series DAT drive has 4GB native capacity with 120m tapes and 8GB hardware compressed capacity. SCSI interface. This drive supports both data and DAT audio and can read/write audio at 2.2x with special software for the PC, e.g. Vdat or Dat2Wav. SCSI inquiry string reports "ARCHIVE Python 01931-XXX 5AC". This drive is used, but has been tested and is in excellent working condition. 30 day money back guarantee and unlimited technical support. No international shipments. Fixed insured shipping cost of $10 for UPS ground or equivalent. Paypal accepted for credit card transactions. USPS Money order/cashier's check also accepted. References furnished upon request E-mail datman@midsouth.rr.com with any questions. Thanks for your interest, Robert ------------------------------ From: Adam McMillen Subject: Steve Earle - Freedom Sings Benefit Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 18:55:13 -0700 (PDT) Anyone tape the Freedom Sings benefit at the Bluebird in Nashville last night? Looking for all audio but would easily settle for Steve Earle's set. E-mail for a list...lots of Earle and other Americana. Adam atm135@yahoo.com __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Dan" Subject: The Other Ones/ABB Taping Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:01:30 -0400 Joe Rioux wrote: "Ever since the Dead formalized a tapers' section in the mid-80's this has always been their position on it (i.e. taping is only allowed from the tapers' section and only with a taper's ticket). I don't know what your surprised about." The surprise comes with Phil Lesh. Even though he was snubbing tapers at Beacon Theatre shows by not only putting them in the back, but in the corner where the sound is poor, his policy did change in the summer at the sheds. FOB taping was permitted, as long as mics were 'head high'. Even heads of security would come to the gates and announce that policy through a bullhorn. Now Bob Weir is playing the Beacon soon, and I just got my taper ticket. It's back to the older Phil Lesh trick of sticking us back in the corner. I wonder if Bob is the overriding influence of where the tapers go for The Other Ones? I agree with a some who say The Allman Brothers are one of the best. A most unusual situation happened to me at a Saratoga, NY Allmans show this summer. I was up front center (9th row). As I was setting up my mics (before the show started) I had them about 7' up. A 'security guy' came up to me and asked if that was as high as they go. I looked at him strangely and said no. He then asked me to put them up as high as I could. WHAT? I asked him to repeat his request a couple more times (as I'd never been asked that before), including asking him his name. He told me his name and that he was the 'head of production'. Wow....was I in heaven! That was a truly taper's dream. It worked out great, as the people around me were chatty, but my stand was way above their heads. True...being up that high (~13-14'), the 1" diameter mic stand was now 'blocking'(?) the view of more people behind me. However, the larger part of it (T-bar, clamps and mics) were not in the way of people right behind me. Perhaps 50' behind me....yes. When looking at the top of the rig from that far away, and when put in perspective those mics however, do seem smaller. If only more bands and venues took that approach.... -Dan Greenberg- ------------------------------ From: kfor5311 Subject: ISO: Taper Ticket, Phish 12/31/02 - Shameful Grovel Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 22:36:41 -0400 Hey All, Subject pretty much says it all. I would be eternally grateful if anyone could hook this up. I can offer CD's of the shows...as well as CD's of the Hampton shows. Not to mention...your Karma would probably be safe for the next couple of years for doing something so nice. So, if you can help me out please e-mail me. Thanks in advance to the nicest person in the world, Keith ------------------------------ From: "Bobby Scott" Subject: Scratchiness and diginoise on D7??? Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 02:48:07 +0000 Lately when my friend and i have been taping with our Sony D7, and our tapes are coming out a little scratchy. Also whenever we play it back or try to convert it, the sound occasionally drops out and a bunch of diginoise occurs at different spots. They aren't consistently in the same spot, so I don't know what's going on. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Bobby _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Uri Wassertzug Subject: D7---->Mac software Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:08:29 -0400 I've got a D7 witha Core Sound cable and a Mac G3 (OS 8.6). I've got an Audiophile 2496 card in the Mac. What I want to do more efficiently is capture audio from the DAT with the Mac, do very simple cleanup like fading out applause, eliminating tuning between movements, stuff like that, then burn CDs. My question is, is there some simple software (preferably free or cheap) for importing the audio digitally via S/PDIF? I mean, the Cakewalk software that came with the card is HUGE and complicated, made to create 100 MIDI tracks and whatnot. I've looked at many other audio editing programs, but they lack the ability to import digital audio via S/PDIF. Even Digidesign's Pro Tools can only use the Sound Manager, not the card's inputs. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: Jesse Scott Subject: Fwd: YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK AT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:24:25 -0700 (PDT) --0-1997735272-1032589465=:7345 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-788682163-1032589465=:7345" --0-788682163-1032589465=:7345 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Note: forwarded message attached. ================================= Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --0-788682163-1032589465=:7345 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

 

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New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --0-788682163-1032589465=:7345-- --0-1997735272-1032589465=:7345 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Received: from [68.9.45.206] by web13202.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:23:06 PDT Date: Fri, 20 Sep 2002 23:23:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Jesse Scott Subject: YOU GUYS SHOULD LOOK AT THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! To: betty@phish.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1152560817-1032589386=:21646" Content-Length: 1153 --0-1152560817-1032589386=:21646 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Dear PHISH, ( JOHN, MIKE, PAGE , and TREY), I am a long time Phish fan. I am sickened by the the fact that out of 30, yes 30 of my friends who tryied every way to get tickets to MSG and Hampton, not a single one of us recieved 1! But some how Ticketbastared and this www.ticketsnow.com (and you all should look at this site, type in phish, and see what happens!!!!!!!!!!)did ! I do hope you know that this is Highway Robbery at it's finest!!! I refuse to see Phish play for $3000.00 YES $3000.00. If you did not know that this was going to happen then SHAME ON YOU!!!! Instead of playing MSG, you could have play another festival in Fla., or somewhere else large enough so YOUR FANS , AND I REPEAT YOUR FANS, could all gather with the same chance to see the most anticipated return of truely a great band. You know that the majority of the people who recieved tickets for your upcoming shows , are NOT FANS, and stand to make much more MONEY than you wil. I'm not jealous that you make money at what you do, because YOU deserve the finacial reward for working very hard! This just takes the cake! So I guess that I'll just go see String Cheese instead, and thanks for the Music you have worked hard to bring so many people, and THEY will NOT get to see it ! Sicerly, Jesse D. Scott, first show was 12-5/6-92 Vic Th. Chicago, ILL , and those tickets cost me $24.00 for both shows. Do YOU remember those days? I DO!!!!!! ================================= Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! --0-1152560817-1032589386=:21646 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Dear PHISH, ( JOHN, MIKE, PAGE , and TREY),

I am a long time Phish fan. I am sickened by the the fact that out of 30, yes 30 of my friends who tryied every way to get tickets to MSG and Hampton, not a single one of us recieved 1! But some how Ticketbastared and this www.ticketsnow.com (and you all should look at this site, type in phish, and see what happens!!!!!!!!!!)did ! I do hope you know that this is Highway Robbery at it's finest!!! I refuse to see Phish play for $3000.00 YES $3000.00. If you did not know that this was going to happen then SHAME ON YOU!!!! Instead of playing MSG, you could have play another festival in Fla., or somewhere else large enough so YOUR FANS , AND I REPEAT YOUR FANS, could all gather with the same chance to see the most anticipated return of truely a great band. You know that the majority of the people who recieved tickets for your upcoming shows , are NOT FANS, and stand to make much more MONEY than you wil. I'm not jealous that you make money at what you do, because YOU deserve the finacial reward for working very hard! This just takes the cake! So I guess that I'll just go see String Cheese instead, and thanks for the Music you have worked hard to bring so many people, and THEY will NOT get to see it !

Sicerly, Jesse D. Scott, first show was 12-5/6-92 Vic Th. Chicago, ILL , and those tickets cost me $24.00 for both shows. Do YOU remember those days? I DO!!!!!!


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When those in charge made the decision to create a taping section I was faced with several choices, 1) be grateful that they were allowing us to tape & go with the flow. 2)decide to disregard the rules with the knowledge of the possible consequence's & go for the phat tapes, or 3) choose not to go to the show at all. As far as I can see, "THEY" still run the show & "THEY" don't have to let us tape at all! I actually think that I should applaud attitudes like this because if more people have attitudes like this than we will all be running stealth rigs & more people will be understanding of how good it is to have a band that in any way supports the minority of its fans as well as the majority. As far as I can tell, taping is a priviledge not a right.....unless of course you are stealth PEACE, stuart BWT: any stealth recording on my list to the first to respond & request it. ------------------------------ From: Todd Romero Subject: Re: Other Ones Taping Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 03:07:04 -0400 (EDT) On Fri, 20 Sep 2002, Liam Sean Kennedy wrote: > > My personal opinion is that by having rules just for > the sake of rules, the bands create more of a problem. you dont really think they are making up rules 'just for the sake of rules' do you? Its MUCH easier for a band to not allow taping than it is to allow it. and as soon as it becomes another headache the crew has to deal with on tour, for them to continue to allow it shoows extreme deadication and love for the fans. some of the normal issues they have to deal with, ontop of putting on a normal show are: - extra staff/training needed to inspect packs/gear at gate. - extra liability by allowing packs and gear into the venue (especially after 9/11) - worry about copyright infringements from illegal duplication and sales - and the *biggy*... deal with concerns from non-taper fans complaing about having their seats commandeered or being surrounded by gear, or being told not to yell etc. (in fact, i have been told that recent notice from GDTSTOO was sparked by an incident at Alpine involving people from the 'dead family' and some stealth tapers who figured they had more of a right to be taping in seats that belonged to those other people than those oother people had to sit in their own seats.) "Taping is a privilege. Not a right." ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Farm Aid today (Saturday) at 5pm ET Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 01:34:23 -0700 Farm Aid is scheduled to air from 5pm till 11pm on CMT. (Country Music Television) CMT may have a west-coast feed, so in some west coast cities it may also start at 5pm, or it may start at 2pm. Headline performers this year are "the usual gang": Neil Young, Willie Nelson, John Mellencamp, and Dave Matthews Band. Other performers this year include: Toby Keith, Lee Ann Womack, Keith Urban, and Kid Rock /w Allison Moorer. --Gary ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Barnes?= Subject: David Bowie Paris 1 July 2002 Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:34:30 +0100 (BST) I have a 2 cdr recording from digital TV of Bowie at Paris Olympia on 1 July 2002.Looking for trades especially Bowie at Glastonbury.Thanks John __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?q?John=20Barnes?= Subject: Vanessa Carlton, Norah Jones and Alicia Keys wanted Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:39:06 +0100 (BST) Anyone have recordings by Vanessa Carlton,Alicia Keys or Norah Jones up for trade?I have a varied rock list. Thanks john __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Nick Georges Subject: re: TOO taping...do not take up a tapers ticket to PATCH!! Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 09:05:40 -0400 SSIA... I'm of the opinion that if you are patching and ordering a tapers ticket, you are robbing the masses of potentially good sources that *could* have been *if* the guy with all the great gear would have been able to score a tapers ticket. if you use one of these high demand, short order resources for patching...then you are being selfish. Think about how fast the Alpine shows got out.! The circulation of this pending tour has much more to do with the success of the tapers than that of the patchers, so give us some breathing room please. Its obvious that tapers tix will be tight. The rules have been laid, and i plan on respecting them. Don't suck up these tickets just to bring in your D8 while I have to leave $4k in gear in the trunk because of it. You know what would be funny? Everyone converging on the TS at show time and finding that there are no microphones...just patchers. ~ Nick...who will carry ANYONES deck in for them if asked. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************