I would love a copy of Graham Nash 09/18/02 from Town Hall or any show from 
this solo tour.  Plenty to trade.  Thanks  Bob M  ram110@aol.com

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From: "Drew Caruso" 
Subject: WTD: Springsteen Trades
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:01:52 -0400

I am looking for nice recordings of Springsteen from San Jose, LA, Phoenix,
St. Louis and from the MTV VMAs on 8/29.  DAT and CDR are fine with me.
thanks.

Drew
www.geocities.com/drewcatc

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From: ISTEIN2@aol.com
Subject: "Taping is a privilege. Not a right." 
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 16:04:45 EDT

I'm not some right-wing person spouting party-line statements!  The 
realization to me is that, "Taping is a privilege, not a right."  Think about 
all the security issues involved here for venues in light of 9/11 events.  
Everywhere you go, you get inspected now.  Sports arenas are one of the 
tightest security areas going.  These places have insurance, and their 
premiums are based on how tight their security policies are.

Now here come us taper dudes!  We pretty much storm the doors when they first 
open the place.  There are thousands of other fans behind us pushing to get 
in sometimes.  We have to open up all our bags for inspection before going 
in.  But, nobody else is allowed to bring in a bag or backpack, let alone 
tons of high tech recording equipment.  We tapers have been pretty lucky that 
the bands think enough of us to give instructions to the venues well 
beforehand.  What we are hearing from the band now is a reasonable solution 
to a potential security risk.

The amazing thing I've noticed about tapers is the ease at which everyone 
gets along with each other.  The important thing here is to immediately put 
the venues at ease when they see how professional and polite we are to 
everyone.  I'm the first to admit that many people around me over the years 
have gone out of their ways to insure I get a good recording.  These are 
ordinary people sitting next to, and around, tapers FOB.  They don't have to 
inconvenience themselves, but they offer to anyway.  I've never really had an 
issue with a fan, that everyone around me didn't have the same issue with.  I 
consider myself very lucky to be able to publicly tape shows.

I could make this a real long post, but I won't.  I think it's most important 
that all tapers (remember, one rotten apple can spoil the whole bunch!) 
handle the upcoming taping situation with The Other Ones in a relaxed 
friendly manner.  It's really up to us to insure we'll always be able to tape 
shows and events.

Yours,

Ira

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From: Brian Gemborys 
Subject: ISO : Belle & Sebastian
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 15:27:29 -0700 (PDT)

Hi!

Did anyone tape Belle & Sebastian this summer (or ever
for that matter)?  I'm looking for all recordings
audience/TV/radio, etc. that I don't have.  List at :
www.gemborys.org/trading

Especially:

June 30th, 2002 - Glastonbury Festival, UK
July 5th, 2002 - Quart Festival, Norway
August 1st, 2002 - Sudoeste Festival, Portugal
August 3rd, 2002 - Benicassim Festival, Spain
(have only partial FM)
August 10th, 2002 - Haldern Festival, Germany
September 13th, 2002 - Athens, Greece
September 15th, 2002 - Enzimi Festival, Rome, Italy

Thanks!

Brian 
brian_gemborys@yahoo.com

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From: Mathias Rombach 
Subject: Scratchiness and diginoise on D7???
Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 01:00:08 +0200

Hy Bobby,

try to clean the heads of the D7 by using a cleaning DAT-Tape.
I use a Sony cleaning tape, the type is:

DT-10 CL

But there should be more types available, don´t know ...

Mathias

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From: Ed Barth 
Subject: Fwd: [etrade] FW: Phish tickets & scalping
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 19:17:10 -0400

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>___________________________________________
>
>As you all have tried to get Phish tickets for the 4 shows they will be
>performing at the start of 2003 and you all have been denied, I have found
>out why.  I have talked with over 30 scalping companies and I have been in
>correspondance with the Phish family.  I also have a few people I have
>talked to that work with ticketmaster.
>
>This is what happened:  For the lottery, thousands of scalping people and
>companies received information of the demand for this ticket.  Since they
>have large number of employees and accounts they were able to secure the
>majority of tickets away from the fans.  They are now posting them on ebay
>for a minimum of $500 per ticket bids.
>
>Now when it comes to ticketmaster they have a lot of internal security
>issues when it comes to tickets.  Several of their employees receive special
>cuts from scalpers for securing large lots of tickets.  (This is why the
>internet locked up and NO ONE got tickets)  So the scalping companies have
>the majority of those tickets as well.  Which means only a small minority of
>fans (around 5,000-8,000) actually got tickets.  This type of thing has
>happened often in the past with big name concerts (Madonna, U2, Pearl Jam
>etc.) and it is because of this that Eddie Vedder attempted to form his own
>version of ticketmaster to get tickets to the fans and not the scalpers (but
>of course he failed).
>
>What PHISH is doing to stop this:
>
>For the past few weeks, the Phish Organization has called all listed
>scalpers and have been watching ebay.  If any of the addresses for the
>tickets to be sent (lottery and ticketmaster) match those of scalpers they
>are cancelling their orders and will replace those tickets for sale again
>(date and time not known).
>
>This is the reason tickets will not be mailed until Decemeber 1st 2002. They
>are also checking ebay and finding out which tickets they are trying to sell
>and cancelling those orders as well.  Hopefully, this will increase the
>number of tickets available to phans.
>
>What YOU can do to help yourself get tickets and help PHISH STOP scalpers:
>
>1.  DO NOT BUY TICKETS FROM SCALPERS!  If you buy a ticket from a scalper
>before they receive it, most likely their ticket order will be cancelled and
>you will be out money and tickets!  (You could probably report it to your
>credit card company, but it will take time to sort out that mess and loads
>of paperwork).
>
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>
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>
>If all of us phans get together and work together we may not all be able to
>go, BUT we will increase our chances of going.  If we continue to pay
>scalpers, then it will soon get to the point where ALL of the tickets will
>be owned by the scalpers.  Don't be lazy!  SAVE THE BAND YOU LOVE!  DO
>SOMETHING RIGHT NOW!
>
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>___________________________________________

>

>As you all have tried to get Phish tickets for the 4 shows they will
be

>performing at the start of 2003 and you all have been denied, I have
found

>out why.  I have talked with over 30 scalping companies and I
have been in

>correspondance with the Phish family.  I also have a few people
I have

>talked to that work with ticketmaster.

>

>This is what happened:  For the lottery, thousands of scalping
people and

>companies received information of the demand for this ticket. 
Since they

>have large number of employees and accounts they were able to secure
the

>majority of tickets away from the fans.  They are now posting
them on ebay

>for a minimum of $500 per ticket bids.

>

>Now when it comes to ticketmaster they have a lot of internal
security

>issues when it comes to tickets.  Several of their employees
receive special

>cuts from scalpers for securing large lots of tickets.  (This is
why the

>internet locked up and NO ONE got tickets)  So the scalping
companies have

>the majority of those tickets as well.  Which means only a small
minority of

>fans (around 5,000-8,000) actually got tickets.  This type of
thing has

>happened often in the past with big name concerts (Madonna, U2, Pearl
Jam

>etc.) and it is because of this that Eddie Vedder attempted to form
his own

>version of ticketmaster to get tickets to the fans and not the
scalpers (but

>of course he failed).

>

>What PHISH is doing to stop this:

>

>For the past few weeks, the Phish Organization has called all
listed

>scalpers and have been watching ebay.  If any of the addresses
for the

>tickets to be sent (lottery and ticketmaster) match those of scalpers
they

>are cancelling their orders and will replace those tickets for sale
again

>(date and time not known).

>

>This is the reason tickets will not be mailed until Decemeber 1st
2002. They

>are also checking ebay and finding out which tickets they are trying
to sell

>and cancelling those orders as well.  Hopefully, this will
increase the

>number of tickets available to phans.

>

>What YOU can do to help yourself get tickets and help
PHISH STOP scalpers:

>

>1.  DO NOT BUY TICKETS FROM SCALPERS!  If you buy a ticket
from a scalper

>before they receive it, most likely their ticket order will be
cancelled and

>you will be out money and tickets!  (You could probably report
it to your

>credit card company, but it will take time to sort out that mess and
loads

>of paperwork).

>

>2.  Forward this email to everyone you know.

>

>3.  Email, write, or call Phish and tell them your concern and
ask what you

>can do to help. 
Http://www.phish.com
for contact info.

>

>If all of us phans get together and work together we may not all be able to

>go, BUT we will increase our chances of going.  If we continue to pay

>scalpers, then it will soon get to the point where ALL of the tickets will

>be owned by the scalpers.  Don't be lazy!  SAVE THE BAND YOU LOVE!  DO

>SOMETHING RIGHT NOW!

>

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From: "DAVID HEBER" 
Subject: ISO: Phish Tix Trade
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 23:21:03 +0000

Greetings,

I like so many other phish heads got shut out of the MSG show, it seems as
if the scalpers got most of the tix????

Anyway I was hoping some kind soul out there who was not able to get Hampton
tix may be willing to trade for a pair of FRI or SAT Hampton tix. Obviously
I would adore taper tix but anything would do. Please e-mail me if you would
like to do this. If not I will see you all in Hampton!

Thanx
DAVE

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From: "Jason Green" 
Subject: Re: [etree] Austin Music Festival Tapers (please read)
Date: Sat, 21 Sep 2002 18:39:34 -0500

Yes.

Jason
AIM: Chum Kui

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===== Original Message =====
From: "Harry Harbin" 
To: ; "Nancies Mailing List"
; ; ;
; ; "Dat-Heads"
; 
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2002 7:07 AM
Subject: Re: [etree] Austin Music Festival Tapers (please read)

> Are the festival organizers going to allow taping?
>
> My reading, for what it's worth, of the "prohibited items" list at:
>
> http://www.aclfestival.com/info.html#prohibited
>
> is that taping equipment may not be allowed in, to wit: among the
prohibited
> items: "Professional audio recording equipment (recordings may not be
> commercially distributed)" OK, a good lawyer might argue that this is
> ambiguous and arguably doesn't apply to tapers whose recordings will not
be
> commercially distributed but I doubt that there'll be a court of appeals
at
> the entranceway to entertain such arguments.  I note also that among the
> prohibited photo items are camera tripods, "big zooms", and "commercial
use
> rigs."  Makes me wonder if they'd allow things like mike-stands in even if
> they do allow taping . . . .
>
> Harry
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason Green" 
> To: ; "Nancies Mailing List"
> ; ;
;
> ; ; "Dat-Heads"
> ; 
> Sent: Friday, September 20, 2002 5:14 PM
> Subject: [etree] Austin Music Festival Tapers (please read)
>
>
> > I have created a forum for the tapers that are planning on taping at the
> ACL
> > Music Festival. If you are planning on taping, please post an addition
to
> > the board so everyone can see who is taping what and where.
> >
> > Post any pertinant information that you wish such as
> >
> > Name:
> > Dates Going:
> > Taping (when/where):
> > Rig:
> >
> > and anything else you might like to add.  Please go here to submit your
> > information:
> > http://groove-salad.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&postid=169#post169
> >
> >
> > Jason
> > AIM: Chum Kui
> >
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