DAT-heads Digest #481, Volume #6 Tue, 24 Sep 02 11:50:01 EDT Contents: Re:$800? Are you f-ing kidding me? (Scott C. Brown 02) ISO: 1 NYE for 1 HAMPTON 1/2 (Stuart Gerber) Farm Aid ("Brian Sleeman") Re: DAT-heads Digest #480 (-bob) $800? ("Robert O'Haire") No Time To Phish ("thatdamnband") QOTSA (LandsEndJam@aol.com) FT: Radiohead Oporto 2002 ("Javi Dieguez") Need Philadelphia Sleater-Kinney Taper ("Eric") RE: Dynaco Preamps, vs newer recievers, amps etc. ("Bob Griesel") Grovel: Please tape Frou Frou (NYC/LA) (Drew Harrington) new 1 to 1 dvd duplicater (Les Gordon) Phishing Pool (Scott Goodwin) Phish Pool (Scott Goodwin) Beck on KCRW this morning (hewitt@panix.com) the missing digests ("Slipkid") Los Lobos DAT>CD Transfer (JMClarkeJr@aol.com) Re: Phish Pool (Sean Kennedy) Gear FS (Joe Galbraith) Free DAT storage (fwd) (?LSean_Kennedy) *Official Announcement* Audio Taping At Austin City Limits Festival (Jeff Anderson) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott.C.Brown.02@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG (Scott C. Brown 02) Subject: Re:$800? Are you f-ing kidding me? Reply-To: scb02@Alum.Dartmouth.ORG Date: 23 Sep 2002 20:09:32 EDT --- coryphaena_29403@juno.com wrote: Lemme get this straight: Someone charged someone EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS to plug into the board for a Hornsby/Kimock show? That is absolutely insane!! Who charged you? What was the reasoning? And most importantly, why in the hell did anyone PAY IT?!?!? Un-f*cking-believable!! I'm going to go get a few Hornsby live CDRs I recorded ready to sell on eBay... Bidding, it seems, should start at $800. --- end of quote --- No, town hall charged 800 to allow any kind of taping at all. it had nothing to do with hornsby.... ------------------------------ From: Stuart Gerber Subject: ISO: 1 NYE for 1 HAMPTON 1/2 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:14:43 -0400 SSIA id cover cash diff and hook ya up with dats and/or discs.... its a long shot but hey who knows.. good vibes are about ... stuart WOB: one show off my private etree server to first reply stuart@mindspring.com http://stuart.home.mindspring.com Etree.org RC5 Team http://www.distributed.net "But can i bring a few companions on this ride?" - Trey Anastasio ------------------------------ From: "Brian Sleeman" Subject: Farm Aid Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:17:02 -0400 Just wondering if anyone out there has any recordings of the pre-TV coverage Farm Aid performances (or Willie's after the broadcast)? Any audience recs of the broadcast performances would be great, too. Please email me offlist. Thanks! -Brian _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com ------------------------------ From: -bob Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #480 Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 17:27:12 -0700 (PDT) What the ?????? I cannot fathom how a pay-for-patch plan would be officially sanctioned by Bruce Hornsby or anyone in his organization. The legal implications are huge. I also respect Bruce enough to doubt that he would make this a "policy" on ethical grounds alone. Has anyone else shared or witnessed this experience ? I wouldn't jump to the ebay scenario just yet..... -Bob ============================== ====SG Wrote: ================ From: Scott Goodwin Subject: $800? Are you f-ing kidding me? Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 09:35:28 -0400 Lemme get this straight: Someone charged someone EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS to plug into the board for a Hornsby/Kimock show? That is absolutely insane!! Who charged you? What was the reasoning? And most importantly, why in the hell did anyone PAY IT?!?!? Un-f*cking-believable!! I'm going to go get a few Hornsby live CDRs I recorded ready to sell on eBay... Bidding, it seems, should start at $800. SWG __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Robert O'Haire" Subject: $800? Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:39:23 -0400 Scott, ever hear of the Teamsters? They're the guys at the show who are not tapping their feet. Seriously though...only some venues will do that..and others will charge a "reasonable fee" ($20-200) to hook up to the board...go to the Knit these days and see. Remember...no one forced the man to pay..so hats off to him. Robert Scott Goodwin wrote: Lemme get this straight: Someone charged someone EIGHT HUNDRED DOLLARS to plug into the board for a Hornsby/Kimock show? That is absolutely insane!! Who charged you? What was the reasoning? And most importantly, why in the hell did anyone PAY IT?!?!? -- ------------------------------ From: "thatdamnband" Subject: No Time To Phish Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 20:04:34 -0500 Six Hundered and Sixty Six... its a damn long time till New Years Eve.... can u imagine a New Years Eve surrounded by w00ks? http://www.furthurnet.com/gallery/image16.jpg From: pwking Subject: phish NYE grovel betting pool? Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:11:05 -0700 (PDT) hey would any of the other non-phish fans on this list like to start a pool wherein we each take guesses at the number of ticket grovels we'll have to wade through before new year's eve rolls around? i figure there are at least a couple dozen of us, so if we all throw in five bucks and take a guess, whoever's closest wins the pool and can afford a couple of CDr spindles, which we can then in turn fill with non-phish tunes to turn phish fans onto other music? it's a noble idea; join me! anyone? pwk ------------------------------ From: LandsEndJam@aol.com Subject: QOTSA Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:13:26 EDT Anybody out there have any Queens Of The Stone Age? Tom ------------------------------ From: "Javi Dieguez" Subject: FT: Radiohead Oporto 2002 Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 03:21:19 +0200 After 2 hectic months I am now ready to trade both RADIOHEAD shows in OPORTO (26 & 27 july 2002) OKMIIR > PCM-M1 > DTC-ZE700 > ZA2 > CDR 1st night: dead center 2nd night: 1st row balcony Excellent sound quality, w/new unreleased songs At this time I'm only interested in good rig, EX quality masters of: Mercury Rev Perry Blake Dark Star (UK) Radiohead 2002 The Cure 2002 Simple Minds 2002 U2: vintage masters / upgrades to circulating copies Please send lists by email. Thanks ------------------------------ From: "Eric" Subject: Need Philadelphia Sleater-Kinney Taper Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 23:41:53 -0400 Sleater-Kinney is playing at the Trocadero in Philadephia on October 19. There's a 50/50 chance I'll be able to make the show and tape, I may be out on business that week. I was just wondering if anyone would be willing to tape this show, or is already planning on taping. Even if I do end up going, it's always nice to have two recordings of a show. Also, as far as I know, S-K allows audience taping video/audio. I doubt the venues are informed so it's probably best to go stealth. Have lots of S-K to offer among other artists... Thanks. Eric eric@ptd.net ------------------------------ From: "Bob Griesel" Subject: RE: Dynaco Preamps, vs newer recievers, amps etc. Reply-To: Date: Mon, 23 Sep 2002 21:51:42 -0700 I was a Dynaco fan and user for many years. Still have an older Dynaco solid state power amp that works! The tube-type PAS-2 and PAS-3 preamps are great if one can be found that still has good components. The solid-state PAT-4 was a good unit also. In the '90s, Adcom came along as the "new Dynaco". Good engineering and build quality, reasonable precision, and very good pricing. I use an Adcom GFP-555II as a general purpose control preamp in my little studio. It has a good sounding phono preamp that has provided many nice LP>CDR conversions. I use it with a Blue Point high-output moving coil cartridge. The Adcom cost me about $100 in a pawn shop. Bob ``````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````````` "People need celebration in their life. We need magic. And bliss. . . its a part of the basic human experience. . ." Jerry Garcia, 1989 > -----Original Message----- > From: Keith Bode [mailto:t.tunakebo@verizon.net] > Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 11:47 AM > To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net > Subject: Dynaco Preamps, vs newer recievers, amps etc. > > > Gd, I haven't heard of one of thse Dynaco Pre-amps being discussed in > decades. My brother had one in the early 70's with 2 Dynaco mono tube > Power amps, about 60 watts each as I recall. The Preamp was beat up, > but it was very reliable, the power amps ate tubes at ridiculus rates. > I believe Chris about the quality of the Dynaco and it's sound, but I do > know there was one thing to watch out for on these. Dynaco made a > complete unit and also a kit version. I would tend to stay away from > one that was a kit version. I dn't know how to tell the difference in > the finished products available today. I had a couple of High school > friends wh tried building kits of the later integrated amp that was > being sold in the early 70's. Neither of them worked right. I know the > problem with one was my friend took a hit of acid, and sat down with a > solderng iron, and finished it, but he swore he got it right. > > My question remains: Is there a problem with the 90's era recievers tape > out using the MM and tape output, as there seems to be stated thee was > with some earlier, 70's era phono and tape outs? I bought a Technics > SLD-202 turntable a year ago. I have no records, as my entire > collection was stollen in the mid 80's, and I only bought CD's after > that. If anyone has a record that I could try to convert to digital > using the SLD-202 Direct Drive with a Grado GF3 cartrige and a brand new > stylus>Sony STR-D715>Tape Outs>ART DI/O A/D converter>Delta Dio > 2496>wav>Shn, I would be very interested to compare, and give ters the > opporttunity tto compare the sound quality to the set up Chris used. I > would prefer an excellent condition 2 track stereo record to try this > with. > > I would definitely return the record and the CD of it to whoever would > be willing to provide a LP in excellent shape. > > Keith > > Keith > -- > Please check out http://www.wotwild.com for some great animal art and > wall decorations. > ------------------------------ From: Drew Harrington Subject: Grovel: Please tape Frou Frou (NYC/LA) Reply-To: drewmharrington@yahoo.com Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 00:52:13 -0700 (PDT) Okay, not jamband related, but more contemporary UK chill. Frou Frou is Imogen Heap (electro-pop singer songwriter who's done vocals for Jeff Beck, Urban Species, and Mitch Gerber in addition to her amazing solo album "i Megaphone") and Guy Sigsworth (Producer for Bjork, Madonna). These are their first ever US dates doing pre-tour support for their great new CD "Details". I'm begging, please if you can, tape one of these shows. If you're going to roll one of these shows, please let me know. Stealth will be required for the live shows, and I'll repay in kind by rolling any SF Bay Area shows you might need for your collection. Thanks in advance, Drew __ Tuesday September 24th - Live at The Mercury Lounge, NYC The Mercury Lounge 217 East Houston St. New York NY 10002 Tel: 212.260.4700 Tickets: $8 On Stage: 7:30pm Friday - September 27th - Live on KCRW & Spaceland Show, LA 11am-Noon Performance & Interview on “Morning Becomes Eclectic” w/ Nic Hartcort on KCRW www.kcrw.com (listen live) KCRW 89.9 presents Frou Frou live at... The Spaceland 1717 Silver Lake Blvd Los Angeles, Ca. 90026 Tel: 213.833.2843 Tickets: $10 On Stage: 10:30pm September 28th - Live at The Knitting Factory, LA The Knitting Factory 7021 Hollywood Boulevard Los Angeles, CA 90028 Tel: 323-463-0204 All Ages Show On Stage: 9:30pm ------------------------------ From: Les Gordon Subject: new 1 to 1 dvd duplicater Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:00:03 -0400 (EDT) hello everyone,i now have the easiest way to copy dvd's. there is a 1 to 1 dvd duplicater that is totally stand alone. it has 1 pioneer dvd117 reader and 1 pioneer dvd104 writer. its totally automatic. it has 1 year warantee and is new in factory sealed boxes. the price is $699 also you can copy cdrs at 10x speeds. any questions email me. or call (215)234-9938 thanks les. QUESTIONS REGARDING CD & DVD DUPLICATION & CUSTOM PRINTING BLANK CD/DVD MEDIA & SUPPLIES EMAIL: LESG@MICROSERVE.NET PHONE ORDERS (215)234-9938 ------------------------------ From: Scott Goodwin Subject: Phishing Pool Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:14:17 -0400 PS: Do "trade grovels" (i.e., 'my Hamptons for your NYE's') count? I say they should - they're just as big a WOB and as annoying... ------------------------------ From: Scott Goodwin Subject: Phish Pool Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 07:10:09 -0400 I hate Phish - count me in! I say there will be 97 grovels total between now and 12/31/02, including those that have already happened. If I lose because there are less, that's OK, too.... : ^ ) SWG ************************** From: pwking Subject: phish NYE grovel betting pool? Date: Sun, 22 Sep 2002 20:11:05 -0700 (PDT) hey would any of the other non-phish fans on this list like to start a pool wherein we each take guesses at the number of ticket grovels we'll have to wade through before new year's eve rolls around? i figure there are at least a couple dozen of us, so if we all throw in five bucks and take a guess, whoever's closest wins the pool and can afford a couple of CDr spindles, which we can then in turn fill with non-phish tunes to turn phish fans onto other music? it's a noble idea; join me! anyone? pwk ------------------------------ From: hewitt@panix.com Subject: Beck on KCRW this morning Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:26:08 -0400 Hey LA-area folk: Beck will be on KCRW's Morning Becomes Eclectic *today* at 10am. If you can get it down, I've much to trade, Beck and otherwise. Thanks much. ------------------------------ From: "Slipkid" Subject: the missing digests Reply-To: "Slipkid" Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:17:47 -0400 i read datheads up on the 'net every day & am having withdrawal for the past week (since there are no digests visible after "16 Sep 2002") if they are readable from the 'net but the links just not visible in the list (or something), can someone direct me to them??? i like to stay current on what's going on in digi-land thanks mucho, - jon - slipkid@voicenet.com ------------------------------ From: JMClarkeJr@aol.com Subject: Los Lobos DAT>CD Transfer Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:08:00 EDT LOS LOBOS TRANSFER Need to transfer Los Lobos DAT>CD (9/20/02, Franklin Covey Field, Salt Lake City, Utah). FOB, NAK CM 300s>M1. Is anyone interested in helping me out? Drop me an e-mail. Many thanks. John Clarke Jr. JMClarkeJr@aol.com Mobile: 435.640.0993 Home: 435.940.9151 ------------------------------ From: Sean Kennedy Subject: Re: Phish Pool Reply-To: Sean Kennedy Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:18:27 -0400 --On Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:10 AM -0400 Scott Goodwin wrote: > I hate Phish - count me in! Either this comment is grossly unnecessary or you need a ":-)" here. Seriously, there are a lot of people who like that band and you should be able to respect that w/o flaunting it in their face. Especially given that this list just finished beating its fair share of dead horses into the ground -- even joking around and properly ":-" 'ed, this is a time for some restraint. > I say there will be 97 grovels total between now and 12/31/02, including > those that have already happened. > > If I lose because there are less, that's OK, too.... I do agree that ticket related traffic should be very limited. However, it sometimes is valuable. I would suggest the following guidelines for both upcoming Phish and Other Ones shows, although all of this is optional - It should be taping related (eg "I have a taper ticket") - "I have an extra taper ticket for X" is definately worthwhile - "I will be at X show, Y show, and Z show, have a ticket, can I patch out of you?" seems reasonable to post once and not repeat - If its really close to the gigs and you want to setup a trade, I think that also makes sense if it seems likely someone would make that trade (eg. not "Boise to trade for NYE"). However, starting to post this now and repeating it until the shows So, those who are interested use some common sense and restraint; those who aren't, do not poke fingers in the eye of others. Cool? Sean ------------------------------ From: Joe Galbraith Subject: Gear FS Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:23:02 -0400 After more than 15 years of taping, I've decided that enough is enough. Way too much hassle anymore to tape shows. So-- I'm putting the rest of my gear on the block. I've sold off my mics to friends but I have the following for sale. I would prefer to sell everything as a unit. Will NOT separate the deck/battery setup, but will sell other pieces separately. Everyone knows the value of all this gear so please, please, serious offers only: Tascam DA P1 Apogee a/d 1000 Rev.C w/Apogee Wyde Eye 75 ohm 1 meter digital cable Eco-charge Gamma and Beta 2 battery systems with chargers for the above Audio Magic Presto II 15 ft XLR-XLR cables 2 13 ft Talon mic stands Shure A27m Stereo Bar VARK Stereo Bar Sony D5M Analog Deck Sonic Sense Sonicase (will hold DAP1, a/d1000, batteries, cables, mics) If someone is interested in buying a "just add mics" setup: Deck, Apogee, batteries, cables, stereo bar and stand, we can probably work out a great price for you. Email me off list at the above or slipknot1@comcast.net Thanks for looking - it's been a pleasure getting to know a lot of you over the years at shows! ------------------------------ From: ?LSean_Kennedy Subject: Free DAT storage (fwd) Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:30:37 -0400 Forwarded message -- please note that to reply you would need to make a fairly obvious edit to the email addresses provided (further, replies to liam@ will not get any response). ========== Forwarded Message ========== Date: Tuesday, September 24, 2002 9:56 AM -0400 From: Matthew Davidson Subject: Free DAT storage I'm getting rid of my stackable DAT storage drawers. Instead of throwing them away, I'd like to see someone get some use out of them. I have six available and each drawer holds aprox 15 DATs. If you live in the Boston area, come by and pick these up. Please contact matthew@NOSPAMblank.org for more info. Thanks! ========== End Forwarded Message ========== ------------------------------ From: Jeff Anderson Subject: *Official Announcement* Audio Taping At Austin City Limits Festival Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:48:35 -0500 Hello Tapers of ACL, I have been receiving some concerning e-mails regarding taping at the Austin City Limits Festival coming up this weekend. Audience taping WILL be allowed. There will be NO Sound board Access. Audience taping WILL be allowed at ALL stages, however, there will be bands that DO NOT ALLOW TAPING, right now, Jimmy Vaughn fits into this category, there WILL be others to follow. So, please do not even attempt to record Jimmy Vaughn, and these artists that fit into this category. I will inform everyone who these artists are prior to their performance. There are NO video cameras allowed, and NO mixing boards. There will be a designated section at each stage, and please regard this rule. You are fortunate enough to be able to record. If you are caught taping outside a designated section, you will be removed from the festival. There will be NO ELECTRICAL POWER provided, please bring your own BATTERY POWER. Also, there is no parking close to the venue. If you bring in any items that are not allowed in, it will be a very long process to get that item back to your vehicle or hotel room. As for Still Cameras, the Web site says: Prohibited: Professional still camera equipment (no tripods, big zooms, or commercial use rigs) I am trying to work with them about this (at least a more clear definition), but right now, can not guarantee the outcome. I would recommend trying to reduce your camera down to a single lens or not bring a "professional" camera with interchangeable lenses. Thus far, here is what ACL has given approval for: All Audio gear including microphones, mic stand, pre amps, A>D converters, Recorders (DAT/Analog). Please regard these rules! NO VIDEO CAMERAS. I am not responsible for any item not allowed in the gate, security is well informed on items allowed in, and will ultimately be responsible. Please forward this to any other list serve or e-mail list. THIS IS THE OFFICIAL ANNOUNCEMENT. Austin City Limits ALWAYS reserves the right to refuse entrance, refuse items, and all rights to protect the good of the festival. Thank you for your time! Can't wait to see you all in Austin this weekend!! Jeff ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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