DAT-heads Digest #482
Contents:
FS: Sony DAT D8 ("Erik Heath")
$800.00 Smackers ("JP Flanery")
Re: tube pre-amps for concert dat recording? (Michael Hackett)
Pool (Scott Goodwin)
Re: Phish Pool (Eric Angel)
$800 to record a show ("Potter, Ray")
Idiotic Phish pool (gottajiboo40@mac.com)
for trade: Sarah Harmer 10/18/98 pre-FM (Reboot)
Re: Phish Pool ("Toby Dodds")
FS: Core Sound Binaurals w/out battery box ("Bill J")
Re: $800.00 Smackers (Seth Breidbart)
mini-me shipping DC voltage? ("Winnie")
Re: Phish Pool (Sean Kennedy)
extra Jorma + Derek Trucks Band 8/22/02 on DAT for B&P ("Dan")
Please Rush ME ! (Dave-fortyacrerock)
FS: GP D-MIC20 a-d converter/preamp 48k $400 (JHudson199@aol.com)
ISO: Rising Low Screening Party Tapes ("DRider")
From: "Erik Heath" <erikheath@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Sony DAT D8
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:17:53 +0000
2nd owner, low hours, great condition
email me for more info
I payed $450 - just looking to get back what I payed
peace,
Erik
erikheath@hotmail.com
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From: "JP Flanery" <mrbezoar@attbi.com>
Subject: $800.00 Smackers
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:05:44 -0700
Well..
I have a real hard time believing that someone in the Hornsby/Kimock clan
would ever ask for $$ to hook up to the board..much less even take the $$ if
offered...This is a "SHAM" to rip you and me via DatHeads....What BS!
Give your donations to "I Believe in BS"
in care of Fatheads@stupid.net
JP...
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From: Michael Hackett <at217@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: Re: tube pre-amps for concert dat recording?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:10:21 -0300
On Mon, 23 Sep 02 19:50:00 EDT Todd Romero <todd@routeflap.net> wrote:
> i dont recall ever seeing much talk about using tube mic pre-amps for
> DAT concert recording. is there some issues with them that they are
> not optimal for concert recording? the only thing i can think might be
> an issue is having the 'drive' level too high or somehting were you
> would get natural tube distortion..
That would actually probably be better than the nasties that some
transistor pre-amps produce when overdriven.
The big problem, I would guess, is power. I've never heard of a
battery-driven tube pre-amp, at least not portable. Even small tubes
probably suck a lot of juice.
From: Scott Goodwin <coryphaena_29403@juno.com>
Subject: Pool
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 13:08:54 -0400
Yeah, forgot my : ^ ) ... eMail sucks for sarcasm!
It has nothing to do with liking the band. It has everything to do with
this list not being about tickets, something you tacitly acknowledge in
your below comments. Me personally, I'd go start a Yahoo! Group (if
someone else already hasn't) for such, or I'd keep it on a Phish list.
Which DAT-Heads isn't.
I respect the fact that people like Phish (note that I said I hate them,
not 'they suck'), but I think folks trying to deal with tickets on this
list need to respect that it's not a Phish Tickets List...
...and I am now starting to think my bid of 97 is going to be low...
SWG
On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:18:27 -0400 Sean Kennedy <liam@xo.com> writes:
> --On Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:10 AM -0400 Scott Goodwin
> <coryphaena_29403@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > I hate Phish - count me in!
>
> Either this comment is grossly unnecessary or you need a ":-)"
> here.
>
> Seriously, there are a lot of people who like that band and you
> should be able to respect that w/o flaunting it in their face.
> Especially given that this list just finished beating its fair
> share of dead horses into the ground -- even joking around
> and properly ":-" 'ed, this is a time for some restraint.
>
> > I say there will be 97 grovels total between now and 12/31/02,
> including
> > those that have already happened.
> >
> > If I lose because there are less, that's OK, too....
>
> I do agree that ticket related traffic should be very limited.
> However, it
> sometimes is valuable. I would suggest the following guidelines
> for
> both upcoming Phish and Other Ones shows, although all of this is
> optional
>
> - It should be taping related (eg "I have a taper ticket")
> - "I have an extra taper ticket for X" is definately worthwhile
> - "I will be at X show, Y show, and Z show, have a ticket,
> can I patch out of you?" seems reasonable to post once and
> not repeat
> - If its really close to the gigs and you want to setup a trade,
> I think that also makes sense if it seems likely someone would
> make that trade (eg. not "Boise to trade for NYE"). However,
> starting to post this now and repeating it until the shows
>
> So, those who are interested use some common sense and restraint;
> those who aren't, do not poke fingers in the eye of others. Cool?
>
> Sean
>
>
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coryphaena_29403@juno.com
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From: Eric Angel <ejangel@ucdavis.edu>
Subject: Re: Phish Pool
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 10:23:29 -0700
I just want to say that I think Sean summed up the ticket grovel situation
nicely. I'd also like to add 2 things. First, if you don't care for Phish,
then please learn to deal with it. Ticket grovels will be posted, get over
it, use the scroll button on your mouse. And if you are concerned about
wasting BW, then why should everyone flood the list with usless posts like "I
hate Phish, I guess 132 grovels!". At least ticket messages might actually
help someone. Second, where do you send your "I hate Phish" e-mail messages
that you want to be included in the digest? I'll give you a hint, check the
bottom of this digest.
For the record: Yes, I do like Phish. No, I'm not going to any of their NYE
shows, nor will I be grovelling for tickets. Yes, I realize this is also a
waste of BW. So, I'll offer up a BWT (something that the "I hate Phish"
messages lacked).
Eric
BWT: 1 disk SHN
Los Lobos 8/29/02
Lagoon Stage, Cal Expo, Sacramento CA
(California State Fair)
Oktava MC012>Denecke PS-2/AD-20>D8
(mics 10 rows back, center, clamped to metal column)
From: "Potter, Ray" <RPotter@TRCSOLUTIONS.com>
Subject: $800 to record a show
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:29:46 -0400
$800 bucks to be allowed to record a show - thats crazy!!!!!!!!
All this talk has me wondering about the legality of this.
Who did this money go to - the venue or to the artist? I'm assuming in =
the case of the Hornsby show that it went to the venue as I am confident =
Bruce would not allow the shearing of his flock in such a way.
If you pay to record a show do you then own the rights to the =
performance? And if you own the rights can you then legally sell copies =
of the show to whomever you wish? Where does this leave the artist?
Paying to record a show - thats just nuts!!!!!
Peace
Ray
From: gottajiboo40@mac.com
Subject: Idiotic Phish pool
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:44:33 -0500
Are you kidding me? Some of you are childish enough to post stupid shit
like this? How old are you people? 12,13? So the fuck what if people are
looking for tickets or trying to trade them. THAT"S LIFE! Be a friggin'
adult about it for gods sake.
Scott Goodwin, you really should seek out a life. Your immature little
post was not only totally childish and uncalled for, but you completely
made yourself look like an ass to everyone on this board.
People, do some of you really have nothing better to do with your lives
than to sit and post this immature, childish crap? You have nothing
better to do that to continuously rehash all this "my band is better
than your band" crap?
When I posted for my ticket trade, I probably should have posted a
bandwidth tax which I will do now, but come on. Seriously people, this
is very childish and ridiculous.
Thank you Sean Kennedy for being a voice of mature reasoning. Yes, this
should not turn into everyone begging for tickets, but I have been
taping and trading for many years now, and I feel I should have NO
reserve if I want to try and trade my tickets with fellow tapers in this
forum. My post made it on the digest twice by accident. People make
mistakes, so please, let's really try to be adults here because this is
absolutely ridiculous.
OFFER:
KDTU
Florida Harvest Fest
9/21/02
source: ADK A-51s TL's XY, 110 > AM X-Stream > V2 > AM X-Stream >
ad500e > D-10 Pro @ 48k
James Brown
Florida Harvest Fest
9/22/02
source: (same as above)
notes: James has the tightest band I have ever heard. He took the stage
around 10 minutes to 1am, and rocked it until 3:30am. He blew me away
with his high energy show even at the age he is at.
From: Reboot <re_bootleg@yahoo.com>
Subject: for trade: Sarah Harmer 10/18/98 pre-FM
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:06:31 -0700 (PDT)
I've got this show on my drive right now, so I thought
I'd see if anyone's interested:
Sarah Harmer - Oct. 18, 1998
Black Sheep Inn, Ottawa, ON
56 min. A+ pre-FM
It's perfect quality, straight off the radio station's
master DAT. I'd prefer to trade on cd-r if possible.
I'm interested in many different artists, so try me!
Especially looking for: Juliana Hatfield/Some Girls,
Kay Hanley, Tanya Donelly, Rose Polenzani, Voices On
The Verge, Jale, Plumtree/Bontempi, Mary Lou Lord,
Shannon Worrell/September 67, Crash Vegas/Michelle
McAdorey, Wild Strawberries, Madder Rose/Mary Lorson,
Petra Haden/that dog, Dressy Bessy, Fuzzy, Abra Moore.
thanks,
Chris
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From: "Toby Dodds" <toby@dodds.org>
Subject: Re: Phish Pool
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:09:22 -0700
So wait a second. Does this count as one?? Pleeease don't be offended if
someone hates your favorite band. Who gives a flying flip, anyway?
:-T
PS - anybody get a copy of Justin Timberlake at the MTV awards???
> From: Sean Kennedy <liam@xo.com>
> Subject: Re: Phish Pool
> Reply-To: Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.tech.xo.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 11:18:27 -0400
>
> --On Tuesday, September 24, 2002 7:10 AM -0400 Scott Goodwin
> <coryphaena_29403@juno.com> wrote:
>
> > I hate Phish - count me in!
>
> Either this comment is grossly unnecessary or you need a ":-)" here.
>
> Seriously, there are a lot of people who like that band and you
> should be able to respect that w/o flaunting it in their face.
> Especially given that this list just finished beating its fair
> share of dead horses into the ground -- even joking around
> and properly ":-" 'ed, this is a time for some restraint.
>
> > I say there will be 97 grovels total between now and 12/31/02, including
> > those that have already happened.
> >
> > If I lose because there are less, that's OK, too....
>
> I do agree that ticket related traffic should be very limited. However,
it
> sometimes is valuable. I would suggest the following guidelines for
> both upcoming Phish and Other Ones shows, although all of this is
> optional
>
> - It should be taping related (eg "I have a taper ticket")
> - "I have an extra taper ticket for X" is definately worthwhile
> - "I will be at X show, Y show, and Z show, have a ticket,
> can I patch out of you?" seems reasonable to post once and
> not repeat
> - If its really close to the gigs and you want to setup a trade,
> I think that also makes sense if it seems likely someone would
> make that trade (eg. not "Boise to trade for NYE"). However,
> starting to post this now and repeating it until the shows
>
> So, those who are interested use some common sense and restraint;
> those who aren't, do not poke fingers in the eye of others. Cool?
>
> Sean
From: "Bill J" <johnwil1@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Core Sound Binaurals w/out battery box
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 12:18:33 -0700
I'd like to sell my Core Sound Binaurals. I've used them a total of 8 times
and never use them anymore. I still have some CS cardioids so I am keeping
the battery box/bass rolloff filter. If you want the battery box/bass
rolloff filter you can buy a new one at www.core-sound.com for $59.00(fixed
flat or filter response) or $89.00(switchable flat or filter response).
I'm asking $120.00 for the mics (including shipping). New they are $230.00.
These mics are not the low end set, nor are they the high end.
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: $800.00 Smackers
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 15:39:41 -0400 (EDT)
> I have a real hard time believing that someone in the Hornsby/Kimock
> clan would ever ask for $$ to hook up to the board..much less even
> take the $$ if offered...This is a "SHAM" to rip you and me via
> DatHeads....What BS!
You should try reading before posting, you won't look as foolish.
The union in that place requires payment if recording will be
allowed. Argue with them.
Seth
From: "Winnie" <who@sover.net>
Subject: mini-me shipping DC voltage?
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:18:34 -0400
There is conflicting info making it's way around.
Apogee web site says that the mini-me will run on 6 volts DC.
Some dealers say that the spec had changed and it wont run on under 8 volts.
I just called the dealer who has my pre-order. I am next in line for the
backordered units. They had one in stock that was going to the person who
was in front of me in line. So they opened the manual and it says 6 volts is
OK.
Has anyone out there gotten their minime order yet who could confirm the DC
voltage spec?
I am asking because I want to know if I need to get a different battery
setup and sell my current 6 volt setup.
thanks!
winnie
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Nothing to kill or die for,
No religion too,
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From: Sean Kennedy <liam@xo.com>
Subject: Re: Phish Pool
Reply-To: Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.tech.xo.com>
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:40:09 -0400
--On Tuesday, September 24, 2002 12:09 PM -0700 Toby Dodds <toby@dodds.org> =
wrote:
> So wait a second. Does this count as one?? Pleeease don't be offended =
if
> someone hates your favorite band. Who gives a flying flip, anyway?
Uhh, you don't like Bicho de P=E9 (perhaps my favorate style, not
necessarily band)? I will have to DoS your address. You are
probably making assumptions about what music I like that is
completely wrong, but I think that is irrelevent.
Seriously, for people who do not want to read ticket grovels, you folks
generate a lot of email which is pretty pointless. As far as being
offended, DAT-heads is run so that tapers can help each other. Its
spent far too much of the last few weeks amplifying flame wars.
I have run it for > 10 years and I expect some technical discussion
here and overall cooperation.
> PS - anybody get a copy of Justin Timberlake at the MTV awards???
Great, a useless post + a grovel. A real win, next time offer a bandwidth
tax. (I am providing the bandwidth, so that is my tax.)
Sean
From: "Dan" <dgreenberg1@hvc.rr.com>
Subject: extra Jorma + Derek Trucks Band 8/22/02 on DAT for B&P
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:10:09 -0400
This is for their recent sets from the outdoor free show at City
Hall Park in NYC (a few blocks from Ground Zero). The show
was recorded FOB with DPA mics onto one 90m Sony DAT.
In return, I'd like one sealed Sony or Maxell 90m DAT plus postage.
First to respond after the Digest hits my mailbox gets it...unless you're
willing to do B+P's for others, which I would give preference to (and
then you wouldn't have to be 'first'), in which case please tell me how
many B+P's for others you're willing to make...the highest # of B+P's
offered will then get it. 'The contest' ends 48 hours after I get the Digest,
and I will email back all who respond.
Peace,
-Dan-
From: Dave-fortyacrerock <digitaldimar@yahoo.com>
Subject: Please Rush ME !
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 14:20:57 -0700 (PDT)
Wow! Anyone! Any 1 Show From the 2002 Tour! Would
LOVE L.A. Staples Last Night 9/23, But will take
anything Full Digital ! I have about 3 Live Rush
shows from 74,92 and 96 to trade for ANYTHING
>From this years Tour! I havent seen them Since
Septemper 1976 and Last Nights show was a Real
Blast for me to attend! Judging from the security
@ the entrance I doubt if anyone got anything
from this show....I hope someone here will help
me out....
B/W Tax:
Rush 8-26-74 from a Bootleg cd titled:
Fly By Cleveland
Regaurdless if anyone answers my cry (for a 2002 show):
=====
Dave DiMartino
18344 Amie Ave House "A"
Torrance,Ca.90504
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From: JHudson199@aol.com
Subject: FS: GP D-MIC20 a-d converter/preamp 48k $400
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 17:29:07 EDT
I have a Graham Patten D-MIC20 preamp/a-d converter in perfect working
order. I will include a 6v battery system that will power this unit for 5
plus hours. Owners manual, 4 pin xlr power cable and a bnc to coax cable will
be included. $400 plus $15 for insurance and shipping.
Thanks,
Jon
From: "DRider" <Hawkwind@attbi.com>
Subject: ISO: Rising Low Screening Party Tapes
Date: Tue, 24 Sep 2002 18:10:31 -0400
Did anyone tape this??
Members of Gov't Mule, Phish & Widespread Panic Perform at Rising Low
Screening Party
Several musicians performed at a premiere party for Mike Gordon's
documentary, Rising Low, Saturday at Allaire Studios in Shokan, NY (just
outside Woodstock). Following the screening of the film, many informal jam
sessions unfolded over the course of the evening. Gordon played banjo with
bluegrass duo Jay & Molly along with members of New York-based Big
Appleachio. The set featured many standards, including "Uncle Penn" and
"Deep
Elem Blues." Next up was drummer Matt Abts (Gov't Mule), bassist Dave
Schools
(Widespread Panic, Gov't Mule) and guitarist Fuzz (Deep Banana Blackout).
The
trio was soon joined by DJ Logic, keyboardist Rob Marscher (Addison Groove
Project) and saxophonist John Bethel for "Cissy Strut" and "Soul Power."
Later in the evening, guitarist Trey Anastasio (Phish), Gordon, Abts, Fuzz,
Logic and Marscher played a 40-minute set of high-energy improvisation that
included a brief tease of The Who's "Sparks." In the wee hours of the night,
DJ Logic entertained the crowd for an hour or so before Schools and Abts
emerged for more improv.
Again.....
Did anyone tape this??
D
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