DAT-heads Digest #490, Volume #6 Sun, 29 Sep 02 13:50:00 EDT Contents: Aerosmith (Smashmark@aol.com) For "Bob" (evansdoor@earthlink.net) (Mark Mayhle) Funeral Diner in Europe (Ryan Gear) RE: SGI DAT DRIVES $80 DELIVERED W/ 30 DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE ("datman") ("Bruce Bornstein") Nomad 3: Usage 4 Live Recording? (Rothenberg & Kupsaw) Off topic, concert tickets, staying home and gate crashing (Keith Bode) you people are DEAD wrong (Schwigiddy) Re: Off topic, concert tickets, staying home and gate crashing (Seth Breidbart) Re: Mini me question (Alex Prestin) Re: Mini me question (Seth Breidbart) AYWKUBTTOD and QOTSA 9-27-02 For Trade ("TCH") ISO TLG @ GAMH 9-27-02 (Doug Burkhardt) re: @#%! bootlegger ("Chris Siegl") Seeking JGB 08/29/87 French's Camp (Paul & Jen Beichert) FS/FA: Sound Devices MP2 preamp and Oade 7-pin cable ("Todd & Margo Ramsden") ISO:Springsteen shows from the rising tour ("Marcello Gasperini") Oasis Tokyo 3 shows trade ("hiroyuki tanaka") Re: Sony PCM-2000 question (-bob) batch of pre-recorded DATs available for B&P value (pwking) Thanks, still ISO Cowboy Junkies and OTR (janque@webtv.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Smashmark@aol.com Subject: Aerosmith Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:10:07 EDT hey i recently transferred a bunch of Aerosmoth analog master>>CD, various shows from 84-94. Some really nice recordings. i would like to trade them for recent Aerosmith shows from this summer. Also intersted in any high quality recent Stones thanx smashmark@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: For "Bob" (evansdoor@earthlink.net) Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 14:58:54 -0500 (CDT) Sorry for WOB-- I tried to respond to this person's request for BWT B&P but it bounced. Please provide me a different email. BWT: A few more B&Ps for Buddy and Julie Miller 9/1/02 (1 disc). -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: Ryan Gear Subject: Funeral Diner in Europe Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 16:45:36 -0400 folks in these areas should hit this shit up. Muj, can I count on you for Oslo? =20 r. -- Hi, sorry to keep posting this shit if you're bored of it. anyway, funeral diner is wrapping up a US tour (LA tonight at the Drop In Center in Garden Grove, Biko House in Santa Barbara tomorrow [Sunday], then Munoz Gym in Bakersfield.) After that, any and all European types please check out: FUNERAL DINER (usa) 07.10. D, Wolfenb=FCttel - Mumpitz 09.10. D, Dresden - Az Conni 10.10. D, Darmstadt - Oetinger Villa 11.10. D, Frankfurt - Exzess 12.10. D, Saarbr=FCcken - Alte Feuerwache 13.10. F, Reims - CS Turenne 14.10. F, Strassbourg - La Salle Molodoi 16.10. D, Kassel - K19 17.10. D, Langholt - Juz 18.10. NL, Utrecht - ACU 19.10. NL, Den Haag - SCSI Cell 21.10. UK, London - The Swan (Tottenham) 22.10. UK, Grimsby - The New West Marsh Social Club 23.10. UK, Leeds - The Royal Park 24.10. UK, Peterborough - tba 25.10. B, Messancy - Pipeline 26.10. D, Trier - Exhaus 27.10. D, Freiburg - KTS 28.10. SW, Winterthur - GG31 29.10. A, Innsbruck - Workstation 30.10. A, Wien - T=FCwi 31.10. D, M=FCnchen - Kafe Kult 01.11. D, Ansbach - Projekt Turm 02.11. NL, Venlo - Peron 55 03.11. D, Bochum - Wageni 04.11. D, Magdeburg - Heizhaus 05.11. D, Oldenburg - Alhambra 06.11. D, Hamburg - Flora 07.11. DK, Copenhagen - Ungdomshuset 08.11. SWE, G=F6teborg - Fritidsg=E5rden F=E5geln=20 09.11. NOR, Oslo - Blitz 10.11. SWE, V=E4steras - Kyrkbacksg=E5rden 11.11. tba 12.11. D, Husum - Speicher 13.11. D, Oerlinghausen - Jzo BOOKING: selma EMAIL: info@selmatravels.de=20 ------------------------------ From: "Bruce Bornstein" Subject: RE: SGI DAT DRIVES $80 DELIVERED W/ 30 DAY MONEY BACK GUARANTEE ("datman") Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:48:58 -0400 SG93IG1hbnkgdGltZXMgYXJlIHlvdSBnb2luZyB0byBwb3N0IHRoaXMgc3BhbT8/DQoNCkkndmUg c2VlbiB0aGlzIHBvc3QgYXQgbGVhc3QgNSB0aW1lcywgZW5vdWdoIGlzIGVub3VnaCBhbHJlYWR5 Lg0KDQo= ------------------------------ From: Rothenberg & Kupsaw Subject: Nomad 3: Usage 4 Live Recording? Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:01:42 -0700 I read with interest the recent postings about the firmware upgrades to the Nomad 3, a unit seemingly designed to rip and store MP3s, enabling it to record n wav format, adjust levels, and otherwise do live recordings with microphones. If anyone has used one in a concert setting, could you comment on your operation and results compared to a portable DAT? Thanks Sheldon ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Off topic, concert tickets, staying home and gate crashing Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:34:49 -0700 How the hell does going to a concert without a ticket equate to gate crashing, and why should I stay home if I don't have a ticket? I have gone to shows, where I have had extra tickets and sold them in the parking lot. Those guys who bought the ticket showed up to buy tickets in the parking lot. I had extra tickets so I sold them. Where is the problem in that? In 6/2000 I went to see Bob Dylan open for Phil Lesh. I didn't bother to buy tickets, because I really wasn't interested in seeing Phil. I told my now ex girlfriend that I wanted to go. She said "We don't have tickets, how are we going to get tickets?" I said "It's a Dead crowd, we'll get tickets in the prking lot, and if we can't get tickets in the parking lot, the show isn't sold out. so we can buy them there." She said "Your nuts!". I said "I know I'm nuts, but I know we can get tickets in the parking lot." I learned that in 30 years of going to concerts. We got to Irvine Meadows, and within 5 minutes of getting there we had a pair of 6th row seats, directly in front of the left stack, for face value. I have snuck into a couple of concerts when I was young, like 18-21, but I have never crashed a gate, or climbed a fence, at least not one more than 6 or 8 feet, and none in over 25 years. Personally, I have never been to a show where I couldn't havve bought tickets in te parking lot, or in front of the theater. I have never crashed a gate, and the last time I even snuck into a show was at the Skating Rink in Central Park, NY in the early 70's. I have only bought tickets in the parking lot once, but I have sold them many times. I don't think going to a concert without a ticket is a bad idea unto itself. I also think the people who climb fences, crash gates, etc, went to the show with any other intention in general. Some human forms go to concerts with no money, and a firm determination to get in. If they can't get a "miracle" in the parking lot, they are going to resort to any means they can to get in. When my ex-gf and I went to see the Dylan-Phil show we were both professionals in our mid 40's. There was no chance we were going to crash a gate, or climb a fence. Also, I don't drink, or get high, so nothing was going to imair my judgement enough that I would decide to do somethig stupid. I think the people who are being addressed as the problem causers in the "if you don't have a ticket, stay home, are not the people who are on this list. It seems a little incongruous that a given individual is going to have a bunch of money tied up in computers, DAT decks, digital audio card, and/or a full concert recording rig with a portable DAT, Microphones, preamps etc, and all that goes with it, and be crashing gates, or climbing fences. Going to a concert without a ticket does not equal gate crashing, etc. Going to a concert with no money, and an attitude "I'm getting in no matter what" equals the problems described. Keith -- Please check out http://www.wotwild.com for some great animal art and wall decorations. ------------------------------ From: Schwigiddy Subject: you people are DEAD wrong Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 15:57:17 -0700 (PDT) this is not publis bitching, i was trying to warn people in this community about someone who i now, hear more and more worse things about as i get emails everyday about his trading standards, comments so on. i understand that when i attack 1 person here i am attacking a whole fleet, i said that me friend was going to a show with or without a ticket,. so you people can sit there and say that none of you who has chimed in has never gone to a show without a ticket, looking to get in. so what if some one goes to a show without a ticket, whats the big deal, what does this do to the community, what about the time your brother or sister had an extra with them , then sold it in the lot then boought you a beer or a veggie burrito, or gas. thats what it does, it helps someone out of a jam, if i had an extra & i wanted to get back what i paid for it , then so be it. don't try to bash me, i've been in this scene longer than most of the people on this list, it's funny when someone here trys to say "hey he's a bad trader" or "hey he ripped me off" oh no, can't be done, but, if someone sells a CD or has a crispy SBD of a band that doesn't allow taping then by all means lets hop on the band wagon. my $0.02 and it wasn't even worth that, if you don't know when someone is trying to help , well thats sad. Me- __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Off topic, concert tickets, staying home and gate crashing Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:16:42 -0400 (EDT) > How the hell does going to a concert without a ticket equate to gate > crashing, and why should I stay home if I don't have a ticket? It really depends on a number of factors. For instance, people showing up near MSG on NYE hoping to get lucky aren't a problem. Even the 200K people who tried for tickets (by somebody's estimate) wouldn't be more than a blip in the usual NYE mess around Times Square. At the other extreme, if a show is in the middle of nowhere, it likewise doesn't matter much. In between, the difference between 20,000 people with tickets showing up and going to the show, and them plus 10,000 people without tickets hanging around the parking lot, hassling passers-by, and otherwise making nuisances of themselves (even if just by forcing people with tickets to park some distance away by filling the lots) is noticeable. Any one person likely isn't a problem. It's the numbers that are. Seth ------------------------------ From: Alex Prestin Subject: Re: Mini me question Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:34:48 -0400 (EDT) > > So I just ran the mini me for the first time and it ran extremely > > hot (not temperatures) level wise. Someone at the show said that I > > could change some dip switch setting to back the unit down. I was > > wondering if anyone has done this or if anyone can direct me to the > > information somewhere online. > > RTFM Problem is, the manual the unit comes with doesn't have this info. It was revised shortly after the latest batch were shipped. It's all well and good to say "read the manual", but you can't read what's not there. - A.P. ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Mini me question Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:51:44 -0400 (EDT) >> RTFM > > Problem is, the manual the unit comes with doesn't have this info. It was > revised shortly after the latest batch were shipped. It's all well and > good to say "read the manual", but you can't read what's not there. That's why Apogee puts the manual up on their website. (Well, that and it's probably a good selling point. I'm just waiting for their AD1000 buyback program, probably.) Seth ------------------------------ From: "TCH" Subject: AYWKUBTTOD and QOTSA 9-27-02 For Trade Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 19:00:47 -0500 Caught And You Will Know Us By the Trail of Dead 9-27-02 Houston,Texas Aerial Theater AT853s>Sony PCMM1>HHB850>CDR47min Queens of the Stone Age 9-27-02 Houston,Texas Aerial Theater AT853s>Sony PCMM1>HHB 850>2CDR 83.23 min interested in a trade hujar@ev1.net ------------------------------ From: Doug Burkhardt Subject: ISO TLG @ GAMH 9-27-02 Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 17:40:45 -0700 I would love to get a copy of both shows. BayRecorder.Org? Can trade or B&P? Thanks, doug_ ------------------------------ From: "Chris Siegl" Subject: re: @#%! bootlegger Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 22:41:42 -0400 from the link in the post below ... 10/13/97 Jimi Hendrix / Joe Satriani / Kenny Wayne Shepard now that's a show i wish i'd heard about. hey, at least we know that THESE bootleggers are idiots. if that counts for any peace of mind ... chris From: Joshua Subject: @#%! bootlegger Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 08:10:24 -0700 (PDT) http://www.tuneinagain.com/catalogs/page1.html quite a little biz they've got going on their cdrs Tune In Again PO Box 3195 Pasco, WA 99302 509-628-0580 you can complain to their web hosting at abuse@christianwebhost.com _________________________________________________________________ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com ------------------------------ From: Paul & Jen Beichert Subject: Seeking JGB 08/29/87 French's Camp Date: Sat, 28 Sep 2002 23:10:57 -0400 Hey folks, Jerry Garcia Band 08/29/87 French's Camp on the Eel River, Piercy, CA I'm in search of this show in any format (preferably dat or cd but will accept cassette) for my aunt's 50th birthday party which is fast approaching. This is the last time she saw Jerry in CA before moving back to NY and you know how that goes... Please help me locate this show. I've got alot of great Dead stuff on CD-R and DAT to offer in return as well as other artists. I can send a list. Thanks in advance!!! Thanks a million Paul ------------------------------ From: "Todd & Margo Ramsden" Subject: FS/FA: Sound Devices MP2 preamp and Oade 7-pin cable Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 02:22:09 -0400 Just a heads up on my gear for sale. I've still got the MP2 preamp available. Make me an offer if you're looking for an MP2 preamp. I've decided to hold onto my ProDigital 7-pin cable and auction my Oade Bros. 7-pin cable instead. It was my backup cable and is like new: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1384108024 My modSBM1 has been sold. -Todd BWT: I'll take a couple for moe.'s late night show at the Fox on 9/6. Source is km184>mp2>modSBM1>D100. PS. BTW, does anyone know what happened to the online archived digests? They haven't been updated in weeks. I've emailed the list-owner to ask that I start receiving email digests, but I haven't been able to read DAT-heads since 9/16. Did the online archives move from www.solorb.com? Email me directly if you have any info as (obviously) if you send it to DATheads, I won't see it. ------------------------------ From: "Marcello Gasperini" Subject: ISO:Springsteen shows from the rising tour Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 11:04:24 +0200 Hi all, subject says it all.I have about 1000 hours of Bruce on dat/cd. Thanks Marcello ------------------------------ From: "hiroyuki tanaka" Subject: Oasis Tokyo 3 shows trade Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 21:41:53 +0900 Hello, DAT-heads I taped 3 OASIS Tokyo shows: 9/25, 9/28&9/28 I used Sony TCD100+DSM6S and sound is good If someone who already taped or will plan to tape future OASIS show are interested in my tape, please contact me. I would like to trade my tape for other OASIS 2002 show or Radiohead, Paul Weller Primal Scream and so on. Please send me your lists for a quick trade. Thanks Hiro ------------------------------ From: -bob Subject: Re: Sony PCM-2000 question Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 07:41:43 -0700 (PDT) Is anyone using the Sony PCM-2000 ? I would like to hear from anyone who'd be kind enough to relate some personal experience with it. I am trying to chose between it and the Tascam DAP1 and the Sony PCM-M1. I am especially interested in hearing from folks using these without external A/D or Pre-amps. Thanks. -Bob __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: pwking Subject: batch of pre-recorded DATs available for B&P value Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 09:41:47 -0700 (PDT) hi everybody -- i'm cleaning house, and i'd like to find a home for a few DATs that i've uploaded and archived to shorten. i'm getting rid of this as a batch only; don't write me asking about one in particular. in a move that i hope isn't too controversial, i'm not accepting b&p for these, rather i'd like to receive the amount you'd pay for these DATs as if they were blank. more on this below. before i explain further, here's what's on the 8 DATs: 60 Meter tapes: Bauhaus 9-14-98 Tabernacle Theater Atlanta GA dsm-6 source Bauhaus 8-17-98 Warfield Theater San Fran CA schoeps mk4 source Bauhaus 8-18-98 Warfield Theater San Fran CA schoeps mk4 source Love & Rockets 6-12-96 Newbar Raleigh NC unknown dAUD (sounds great) Naked City 5-3-92 Fabrik Hamburg GR FM source New York (Trey/Mike side project) 5-21-97 Club Toast Burlington VT DSBD source 90 Meter tapes: Sex Mob w/ Medeski & Wood 8-8-00 Yoshi's Oakland CA FM source MMW 12-13-98 Philly PA Neumann km140 source all of these are excellent tapes (data grade, mostly maxell & sony), free of dropouts, etc. a fine start to a newbie's DAT collection... now, as for the value. american digital (www.am-dig.com) sells 10 packs of maxells for $3.09 & $3.19 for 60 and 90 M, respectively, so, using the cheaper price for 60M tapes... 8 x $3.09 = 24.72. Add to that whatever it'll cost to ship the tapes to you, and these DATs are all yours. with this payback money i'm just going to be buying into a CDr spindle... i swear i'm not financing al qaeda or anything foul, so please don't flame me! i am completely open to negotiation if anybody thinks this is 'fuzzy math' or i'm trying to pull a fast one... i'm not, again, just cleaning house. drop me a line if you're interested in this deal ... first respondent who can paypal me within the next 24 hours is the winner. (if you don't have a paypal account, let me refer you and we both get $5 free. sweet!) peter ===== ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ web: http://home.nyc.rr.com/pedroworld AIM: sleepypedro ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: janque@webtv.net Subject: Thanks, still ISO Cowboy Junkies and OTR Date: Sun, 29 Sep 2002 13:27:30 -0400 (EDT) Thanks to everyone who helped out before, I am still looking for a bunch of 2001 shows and specifically Cowboy Junkies 5/12/02 Washington DC 5/14/02 Philadelphia 5/15/02 New York 5/22/02 Northampton (BOTH SHOWS) 6/13/02 Los Angeles any show after 6/2102 thanks again, JC *contact me off list and I'll send my list, I do collect a variety of sources, so if you have any other shows let me know too ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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