DAT-heads Digest #509
Contents:
Re: Selling Dat Tapes (Keith Bode)
re:DAT prices & selling used tape (david cohen)
Mofro is taper friendly (Joshua)
ZA2 and W2000? ("Fred A")
need DDS drive assistance? (pwking)
re: selling DAT tapes ("Mark McKay")
FS/FT: New Toshiba satellite 1805 (DMB6string92@aol.com)
Re: selling DAT tapes (Mattwillia@aol.com)
Help needed. I can't see my OS8.6 machine on the W2K network. (JH)
RE: Selling DAT tapes (John Bartol)
Re: ZA2 and W2000? (Mark Mayhle)
Blank DATs ("Mike B")
DAT deck remote controls ("Mike B")
RE: selling DAT tapes ("gordon wilson")
AAE, The Church & Jesus Jones DAT Masters For Trade ("Wayne Ellis")
Trading etiquette ("Candace Horgan")
Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette (Joshua)
Tinsley Ellis taping policy (Jeff Holmgren)
FS: D-MIC 20 preamp/a-d converter $360 with battery (JHudson199@aol.com)
Best Mics? (Klay Anderson)
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Selling Dat Tapes
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:21:29 -0700
Masterpiece AV, Cascade Media, amd I'm sure others sell Sony DG60+90P
DAT's for about $2 each. I suppose the case culd be made these are Data
Cartriges, but an awful lot of people use them for audio. Masterpiece
AV told me they are their best selling DAT cartriges.
"$3 bucks a piece is more than fair. I challenge anyone to show me a
vendor/dealer that sells Sony blanks at "about $2 a piece".as you
state......"
Keith
From: david cohen <decohen@ameritech.net>
Subject: re:DAT prices & selling used tape
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 14:38:26 -0500
I think each person is the judge for what they wish to charge for selling
used tape. One guy might not mind spending $2 for a new Sony blank, yet
another might think Sony is purely crappy quality and feel that his 6 yr.
old Panasonic Pro 124 is still worth $3-4, especially if he paid $6 for
it...my personal experience is that DDS devalues (and degrades physically)
faster than Panasonic Pro or Ampex or Apogee...so let's not chastise
sellers based on their prices unless they are wholly outrageous...dave
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From: Joshua <sprung598@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mofro is taper friendly
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 12:52:32 -0700 (PDT)
A few months ago I taped Mofro when they opened up for
Vida Blue - they are taper friendly, so go tape 'em.
Good stuff. I asked the lead guy and the keyboardist
if they were soundboard friendly - in unison, one said
"no" and one said "if it sounds good".
I did have the chance to bullshit with three of the
guys while they were in town, and they were all very
cool, mellow and down to earth...I'm looking forward
to them coming back to Denver for sure...
-Josh
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From: "Fred A" <fred_dat@hotmail.com>
Subject: ZA2 and W2000?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 19:52:54 +0000
Hi!
My "new" computer (PIII, 1.2 GHz, 512 MB ram) runs with Windows 2000, I'm
thinking of putting in my "old" ZA2-card. Will it work? Drivers available??
Or should I perhaps install an extra OS (Win 95 or NT4) just for using the
ZA2.....
Thanks in advance
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From: pwking <sleepypedro@yahoo.com>
Subject: need DDS drive assistance?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 13:06:47 -0700 (PDT)
hey folks
many of you have taken me up on my offer to talk you
through purchasing, flashing, and using a DDS drive to
upload audio DATs to .wav. (the upshot of my previous
post being that it's highway robbery to be charging
$75, $80 for these drives when they can be bought for
MUCH cheaper on ebay. haven't seen either clown post
in a while, so maybe the cat's out of the bag?
anyway...)
i'd like to go one step further... many of the folks
i'm corresponding with seem a little sheepish about
the concept of flashing the drives with the audio
firmware, so... if you're willing to cover all the
expenses, namely price of ebay auction + shipping to
me + shipping to you + $0.99 gas money to get me to
the post office, i'll be willing to flash the firmware
for you and deliver to you a perfectly audio-ready
drive for the lowest cost possible.
please note this offer only stands for certain types
of drives; i, like you, am a little leery of flashing
EPROMs and soldering chips onto a board, so... not
every potentially audio-ready drive is eligible for
this little offer. just write me if you're interested
and we'll chat privately.
cheers
peter
(a big Thank You! goes out to someone on this list who
helped get me started in the DDS world... you know
who you are!)
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From: "Mark McKay" <mkm@cox.net>
Subject: re: selling DAT tapes
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:31:36 -0400
>From: John Tsalikes
>To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
>Sent: Saturday, October 12, 2002 3:36 PM
>Subject: RE: selling DAT tapes
>
>
>$3 bucks a piece is more than fair. I challenge anyone to show me a
>vendor/dealer that sells Sony blanks at "about $2 a piece".as you
>state......
The guy who made the offer wasn't talking about Sonys, but since you posted
the challenge...
American Digital (http://www.american-digital.com) sells Sony 60 or 90 meter
tapes individually for $2.29, by the 10 pack for $2.19 each, the 30 pack for
$2.16, and the 50 pack for $2.09. I'm not sure where you're shopping, but if
you're paying $3 each for Sony dats, you're getting ripped off.
HS-4 90 meters go for $3.19 down to $2.89 (for a 50 pack), so $3 a tape,
with music on it isn't a bad deal.
Mark
From: DMB6string92@aol.com
Subject: FS/FT: New Toshiba satellite 1805
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:56:02 -0400
possible selling / trading this new unit i got for school. i would like to go with a mac. ( eigther a Emac, or a laptop ). i would like to get about what i paid for the toshiba when i bought it. ( $1200.00 would be decent ) or we can talk about setting up a trade.
please email me with questions, and i can give more specs.
thank you
Patrick Nobles
"man of the hour"
db.etree.org/patnobles
pnobles@udel.edu
From: Mattwillia@aol.com
Subject: Re: selling DAT tapes
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 17:23:15 EDT
>John wrote:
>From: "John Tsalikes" <jtsalike@tampabay.rr.com
>Subject: Re: selling DAT tapes
>Date: Sat, 12 Oct 2002 15:37:53 -0400
>
>$3 bucks a piece is more than fair.=A0 I challenge anyone to show me a
>vendor/dealer that sells Sony blanks at "about $2 a piece".as you
>state......
>
>From: Dgowc1st@aol.com
>Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #506
>Date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 16:06:42 -0400
>
>without trying to be confrontational, new sony blanks cost about $2 a piece=
.
>charging over that, or even close to that, for used tapes is, in my opinion=
,
>kinda schmeeky....
hmmm...about $2 bucks sounds about right for a new Sony DGP 60 or 90 meter=20
tape. Check out Terrapin Tapes. Ken Has them for $2.25 at the moment.=20
(actually he's been seiing them for this price for about a year now I=20
believe.)
But, dont trust me see:
http://salesassociate.com/ttapes/products.asp?ID=3D1&Category=3D2
I think $1 or $1.50 seems fair for a used DAT.=20
Just my .02
Matt
From: JH <kc7fys@yahoo.com>
Subject: Help needed. I can't see my OS8.6 machine on the W2K network.
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 16:42:25 -0500
Hello,
I was recently let in on a treasure trove of club soundman tapes from a
defunct all-ages venue in my fair city. These 60-some tapes are excellent
recordings made with a stereo pair in front of the club's ceiling mounted
PA over a period of a couple years. I am a Windows2K user and these are in
Audiodesk format. I have a little Mac Powerbook 1400C with a Powerport
Platinum Pro network card, an SMC Barricade 7004ABR 4 port router that
leads to FA311 Netgear PCI NICs in the 2 W2K machines. I can't 'see' the
mac on to pull the files (converted to .wav or .au on the Mac) to my PC for
burning, etc. Can somebody allow me to phone them for a walk-through of how
to transfer these files? I'm not a Mac user, and although
plugging-unplugging the Mac's NIC brings up a response in W2K's LAN icon on
the taskbar, can't figure out how to share anything from the Mac--and
can't grab my files!
I'm sure to a mac user this is an elementary issue. Drop me a line if you
can offer 10 minutes assistance on my dime, of course.
Jonathan in St. Paul
From: John Bartol <chun@etree.org>
Subject: RE: Selling DAT tapes
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:52:50 +0000 (GMT)
You said:
$3 bucks a piece is more than fair. I challenge anyone to show me a
vendor/dealer that sells Sony blanks at "about $2 a piece".as you
state......
well, I beg to differ.
www.terrapintapes.com has sony 60's *OR* 90's for 2.25 ea. order 50 or
more, and there are no shipping charges............
Thats the first search I did, I am sure there are comperable orders
elsewhere as well.
-jb
From: Mark Mayhle <mark@mayhle.com>
Subject: Re: ZA2 and W2000?
Date: Sun, 13 Oct 2002 21:36:48 -0500 (CDT)
On Sun, 13 Oct 2002, Fred A wrote:
> My "new" computer (PIII, 1.2 GHz, 512 MB ram) runs with Windows 2000, I'm
> thinking of putting in my "old" ZA2-card. Will it work? Drivers available??
> Or should I perhaps install an extra OS (Win 95 or NT4) just for using the
> ZA2.....
It works in my machine with W2K using the information from www.zefiro.com
under "What's new". However, YMMV for sure when it comes to the ZA2; it's
highly dependent on your chipset, motherboard, graphics subsystem, phase
of the moon, etc.
The best thing to install if it doesn't work is a DOS boot. That's the
only way I could get it to work without channel swapping in my ancient P90
machine, before I moved it to the the current one.
--
Mark Mayhle
mark@mayhle.com
From: "Mike B" <synergy1999@hotmail.com>
Subject: Blank DATs
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:42:12 +0000
I've got a box of 100 Apogee 90min Pro-DATs. They are sealed in the original
packaging from the factory. I will either sell them for an *incredibly* fair
price or trade them for Grateful Dead rarities on CD. Please make an
offer...
- Mike
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From: "Mike B" <synergy1999@hotmail.com>
Subject: DAT deck remote controls
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 03:46:43 +0000
I've got a remote control for a Tascam DA-30 deck and one for a Denon
Pro-sumer deck (don't know the exact model of the deck but have a part
number for the remote). If you want either of these, I'm willing to take a
gamble. I know this is a good group of people. All I'm going to ask is that
you pay the cost of shipping them to you. If you want to let me pick a show
off your list or to offer up any other creative gifts, great. If not, the
remotes are still yours for the cost of postage... no strings.
- Mike
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From: "gordon wilson" <gordonlw@mindspring.com>
Subject: RE: selling DAT tapes
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 02:30:49 -0400
>>>>$3 bucks a piece is more than fair. I challenge anyone to show me a
vendor/dealer that sells Sony blanks at "about $2 a piece".as you
state......>>>>
http://www.ttapes.com/
Sony DGP-60
Sony's DDS grade tapes have excellent overall error rates. The tape itself
is probably the best. If you're able to monitor error rates, you'll see the
DGP's lock on 0000's. An excellent tape! (120 minute tape)
$2.25
Sony DGP-90
Sony DDS Grade Tape (180 minute tape)
$2.25
Gordon
"A fool and his money are soon parted. I would pay anyone a lot of money to
explain that one to me."
Homer J Simpson
From: "Wayne Ellis" <we1@jennic.com>
Subject: AAE, The Church & Jesus Jones DAT Masters For Trade
Reply-To: <we1@jennic.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 10:03:38 +0100
Hi,
I have the following DAT masters available for trade.
All About Eve
=============
Date Location Source Length
08/05/02 Memorial Hall, Sheffield, UK Aud 84
13/05/02 The Junction, Cambridge, UK Aud 80
16/05/02 'Break For The Border', Leeds, UK Aud 85
The Church
===========
Date Location Source Length
21/02/02 'Break For The Border', Leeds, UK. Aud 120mins
22/02/02 Camden Underworld, London UK. Aud 115mins
23/02/02 Camden Underworld, London UK. Aud 110mins
Jesus Jones
============
Date Location Source Length
14/05/02 Nottingham Rock City, Nottingham, UK Aud 60
Particulary Looking For:
REM : Clean Nottingham Rock City 1984 BBC Master Reel clone and
Mountain Stage (OOT FM/preFM ? w/ Billy Bragg and Robin Hitchcock)
clone, plus any earlier stuff.
U2 (Joshua Tree & earlier esp.), SoM, Dead Kennedys (w/Jello),
Morrissey and Smiths known gens but interested in most
indie/punk/goth.
thanks
Wayne
From: "Candace Horgan" <candace@spacewrangler.com>
Subject: Trading etiquette
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:06:16 -0600
What do you all think of this scenario? I gave someone a card after one of
the workshop sets at the Telluride Bluegrass Festival, and he emailed me
shortly thereafter, and again a month later when I finally had time to burn
a show for him. I agreed to burn the set he had asked about (Emmylou Harris
workshop). In the mailbox on Saturday I received a package with 10 disks,
taking up my whole mailbox, and a note, listing in order of priority, the
shows he wants. Now, I had agreed to do one show, and he sends me 10 disks,
saying he knows I don't have time to do all these shows, so whatever I can
burn would be appreciated, and hopefully I can do a few more. Personally,
I'm pretty torqued about the presumption there, and am tempted to send all
10 disks back and not bother burning the one show I agreed to. Opinions?
Cheers
Candace
From: Joshua <sprung598@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 07:22:01 -0700 (PDT)
I'd burn the disks he asked for and tell him you
didn't have time for the rest. You might mention to
him that he has very bad manners, too.
At the Rusted Root show a few months back a
mini-disker approached me and asked for a patch; I
said sure, do you have a mini-to-mini? He didn't know
what a mini-to-mini was, so I explained it to him. He
found one and came back. I then had to help him start
the recording, explain to him the concept of setting
levels and help him set the levels so they didn't
quite peak at the top. Before the show even started,
he got frustrated, pulled his recorder and left. I
then get an email asking for a B&P copy of the show
(not even an offer of a trade); I say okay. His
package arrived about a week before I left for two
weeks to Telluride; he sends an email right before I
leave asking about the status of his B&P, which I
didn't have time to respond to. A few days later, I
then received a very rude email accusing me of ripping
him off of his $.50 worth of disks; I responded that I
was in Telluride and he quieted down a bit after
making an ass of himself.
I think I finally sent him his disks about a month
ago...too many fools in the world.
-Josh
--- Candace Horgan <candace@spacewrangler.com> wrote:
> What do you all think of this scenario? I gave
> someone a card after one of
> the workshop sets at the Telluride Bluegrass
> Festival, and he emailed me
> shortly thereafter, and again a month later when I
> finally had time to burn
> a show for him. I agreed to burn the set he had
> asked about (Emmylou Harris
> workshop). In the mailbox on Saturday I received a
> package with 10 disks,
> taking up my whole mailbox, and a note, listing in
> order of priority, the
> shows he wants. Now, I had agreed to do one show,
> and he sends me 10 disks,
> saying he knows I don't have time to do all these
> shows, so whatever I can
> burn would be appreciated, and hopefully I can do a
> few more. Personally,
> I'm pretty torqued about the presumption there, and
> am tempted to send all
> 10 disks back and not bother burning the one show I
> agreed to. Opinions?
>
> Cheers
> Candace
>
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From: Jeff Holmgren <cherise@dtgnet.com>
Subject: Tinsley Ellis taping policy
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:44:27 -0500
Anyone seen/tape Tinsley Ellis..i am wondering how he is on taping at
his shows..any info would be great
Thanx,
-jeff
From: JHudson199@aol.com
Subject: FS: D-MIC 20 preamp/a-d converter $360 with battery
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:14:15 -0400
I have had several folks say that they would take it, but I have not seen any $, I will try this one last time before putting it on Ebay. I have a Graham Patten D-MIC20 48k version in perfect working order. I will include a 6v rechargable battery system that will power the unit for over 5 hours, 4 pin xlr power cable, an aes/bnc to coax cable, and the owners manual for $360 plus $15 for shipping and insurance. I would prefer payment through Paypal.com
Thanks,
Jon
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: Best Mics?
Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 09:30:24 -0600
"Jason Green" <admin@groove-salad.com>
Subject: Best Mics?
Trolled:
> I'm sure I'll get a ton of different responses. But what do most think are
> the best mics for recording large venues? Money isn't a big deal with me.
OK. Call me to purchase the following:
1 Soundfield SPS422B or ST250 if you want something a bit more portable.
or
3 Neumann M150Tube mics in a Decca Tree.
or
3 Klaus Heine modded Brauner's in a Decca Tree
or
2 Telefunken ELA-M251's
Call and we can talk stands, mounts, preamps, A/D's, cases, power supplies
and possibly a matrix. Perhaps you want an HHb PortaDisc or Genex to record
to as well.
All the above is no problem and we can deliver complete for the late fall
recording season; you're around 45 kilobucks depending on your preferences.
I'll look forward to your call.
--
Regards,
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
http://www.klay.com
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