DAT-heads Digest #510, Volume #6 Tue, 15 Oct 02 03:50:01 EDT Contents: Eddikette (Scott Goodwin) Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette ("Chris Siegl") ISO: Tom Petty 8/21/02 Red Rocks ("Vikas Bhatia") FS: Beyer MV-100 and also a 4-track recorder ("Kevin Landry") Strangefolk Needs Tapers! (magichatr9@juno.com) any tapers in the dade city fl area?? (dolphin smile) What Are the Best Mics (poll) ("Jason Green") Re: Stinky Green ! (-bob) MP3.. wait.. don't yell at me!! ("Winnie") ooops-atrac ("Winnie") ISO: Lifter Puller (Christopher D Gacek) $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) (Michael Parker) Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette ("Candace Horgan") Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette ("Matt C.") Re: $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) ("Matt C.") Re: $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) (Seth Breidbart) FT:3 Doors Down@Metropolis 10-14-02 (BlackCrowes@gmx.net) FT:3DD@Metropolis 10-14-2002 (Part II) (BlackCrowes@gmx.net) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Scott Goodwin Subject: Eddikette Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:19:39 -0400 Sounds to me like this jackass just sent you nine "gifts" ! I'm just sayin' - SWG *************** From: "Candace Horgan" Subject: Trading etiquette Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 08:06:16 -0600 What do you all think of this scenario? I gave someone a card after one of the workshop sets at the Telluride Bluegrass Festival, and he emailed me shortly thereafter, and again a month later when I finally had time to burn a show for him. I agreed to burn the set he had asked about (Emmylou Harris workshop). In the mailbox on Saturday I received a package with 10 disks, taking up my whole mailbox, and a note, listing in order of priority, the shows he wants. Now, I had agreed to do one show, and he sends me 10 disks, saying he knows I don't have time to do all these shows, so whatever I can burn would be appreciated, and hopefully I can do a few more. Personally, I'm pretty torqued about the presumption there, and am tempted to send all 10 disks back and not bother burning the one show I agreed to. Opinions? Cheers Candace ------------------------------ From: "Chris Siegl" Subject: Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 13:29:35 -0400 josh said: I then get an email asking for a B&P copy of the show (not even an offer of a trade); I say okay. His package arrived about a week before I left for two weeks to Telluride; he sends an email right before I leave asking about the status of his B&P, which I didn't have time to respond to. A few days later, I then received a very rude email accusing me of ripping him off of his $.50 worth of disks; I responded that I was in Telluride and he quieted down a bit after making an ass of himself. I think I finally sent him his disks about a month ago...too many fools in the world. -Josh i'm inclined to respond by saying that if you're going to be away for an extended time, don't take on any trades or b&p's immediately before that you may not be able to get to. that, or tell the person that you've asked a friend to do it for you while you're away, and to contact him or her. also, if you had time to read this person's email before you left town, you had time to respond, if only briefly. _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx ------------------------------ From: "Vikas Bhatia" Subject: ISO: Tom Petty 8/21/02 Red Rocks Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 12:38:55 -0500 SSIA. its for a friend. i dont have any petty shows, but he's got plnty and would be glad to hook u up. many many other bands to trade as well. thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ Join the world’s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Kevin Landry" Subject: FS: Beyer MV-100 and also a 4-track recorder Reply-To: kmlandry@ptd.net Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:13:05 -0000 Hey everyone, I have a Beyer MV-100 for sale (original owner, used lightly before I upgraded to an Oade) and, while not DAT related, I also have a Yamaha MTX100 4 track analog recorder that I have no use for and wanted to see if someone could put it to use. I'm looking for around $400 for the Beyer (I see SonicSense is selling new ones for $549, but if you can show me a better going rate, I'll be more that happy to talk. I just want this little guy to find a good home). I have no idea what an analog 4-track goes for these days, so lets just say, make a reasonable offer if you are interested... Both items will come in the original box with owner's manuel for your viewing and reading pleasure :) peace...kev BWT: moe. 4.10.00, timmy rock-opera, 3 audio cd's ------------------------------ From: magichatr9@juno.com Subject: Strangefolk Needs Tapers! Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 18:14:21 GMT Fellow Tapers! Strangefolk is in dire need of tapers during their current midwest tour. If you are a taper in the following areas and are availiable, you will receive free admission to the show (via guest list), a free show off my list, and I will even send you tapes so the only cost is traveling to the show. Please respond to my strangefolk email address, either ben@strangefolk.com, or archives@strangefolk.com if you can help me out. Thanks in advance! Ben Collette ~ Strangefolk Archivist 10-14-02 @ Music Box - Omaha, NE 10-15-02 @ The Green Room - Iowa City, IA 10-16-02 @ The Rave - Milwaukee, WI 10-17-02 @ The Annex - Madison, WI 10-18-02 @ Martyr's - Chicago, IL 10-19-02 @ The Patio - Indianapolis, IN 10-21-02 @ Little Brothers - Columbus, OH 10-22-02 @ Blind Pig - Ann Arbor, MI 10-24-02 @ Hard Hat Concert Hall - Toledo, OH BWT: Strangefolk 9/1/02 The Garden of Eden 3 x 60m ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/web/. ------------------------------ From: dolphin smile Subject: any tapers in the dade city fl area?? Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 11:42:12 -0700 (PDT) if so contact me. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Jason Green" Subject: What Are the Best Mics (poll) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 17:47:04 -0500 As per request from someone on Etree, I have created a poll for best mics. if you're a taper, or someone that likes a specific mic, go here: http://www.groove-salad.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=148 Jason AIM: Chum Kui ---- NEW GS.COM MESSAGE BOARD! http://www.groove-salad.com/forum ---- http://www.groove-salad.com http://db.etree.org/groove_salad ------------------------------ From: -bob Subject: Re: Stinky Green ! Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 16:32:15 -0700 (PDT) I know that the times we're in make it difficult to avoid.....The last two Dat-Heads digests were almost 100% about money. Nearly every post was about cost of mics, media, etc., etc. Just an observation, not necessarily a complaint. BTW, www.etree.org seems to be back up. Oooh Joy, Ren ! Something for nothing: a b&p from my list to 1st 3: www.etree.org/traderz (it's all fine-aged Cheese) Peace, -bob __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Winnie" Subject: MP3.. wait.. don't yell at me!! Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:57:31 -0400 Sure... MP3 uses ATRAC compression... I know that. But.. I listen to a lot of music at work on my so-so computer speakers and in the car. Not the ideal listening environments. The only "QUALITY" listening I can do is on my home stereo. I like the idea of being able to carry my entire music collection around on a 40-60 gig drive as MP3 files. The higher bit rate MP3 formats sound fine to me when competing with traffic noise or as background while working. BUT... before I head down this path there is a potential stumbling block. It seems there may be no way to seamlessly flow from one track to the next as a DAO burned CD plays. Is anyone aware of a way to play multiple MP3 files with no gaps between songs? Thanks Winnie ================================ "Without love in the dream it will never come true"-Robert Hunter Winnie Olmer Trades: ================================ ------------------------------ From: "Winnie" Subject: ooops-atrac Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 20:50:50 -0400 sorry.. i was confusing atrac compression in minidiscs with mp3 compression in my previous post. head full of acronyms... sometimes they get out of sync.. :-) ================================ "Without love in the dream it will never come true"-Robert Hunter Winnie Olmer Trades: ================================ ------------------------------ From: Christopher D Gacek Subject: ISO: Lifter Puller Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 23:47:14 CDT Did anyone get the Lifter Puller reunion show this summer from NY? Thanks, Chris  ------------------------------ From: Michael Parker Subject: $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 21:49:11 -0700 Well, when i started out trading about 7 years back, DAT tapes were about $3.50 or so. Maybe the seller is remembering the good old days? (before CDR that is). Plus, if there is some music you like on there, i`d say it`s worth an extra buck (at least to me) Mike ------------------------------ From: "Candace Horgan" Subject: Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:51:46 -0600 Oh, DON'T GET me started on mindiskers!!!! You want a better example of bad etiquette than Mr. "Here are ten other disks and would you mind giving me more than you said you would?" This is the closest I've EVER been to committing felony assault. This summer at RockyGrass I was set up in front of the board, and running 12-15 patchers off the Apogee, and even feeding a digital out from my Marantz DAT. This woman came up at around 3 on Friday, the first day of the festival, and asked for a patch. She didn't have a mini-mini, so I couldn't feed her off a D8, and the only other RCA outs on the Tascams were already taken by other patchers. So, being nice, I plugged her into my Marantz. Now, as a writer, Planet Bluegrass gives me poser pit access, so I usually start the tape, stay for a song or two to set levels, then walk up to the pit to hang out. No one bothers the gear, usually. Everything went fine this time until the last set, which as it happens was the MOST important of the day, the Hot Rize reunion. Apparently, while I was up front, right before the encore starts this woman decides she wants to get out of the way of the other tapers, since she didn't have another disk, and decides to pull her deck since no one is patched out of her. In the process of removing her cables from my DAT, she yanked the digital cable out of my deck and I lost the encore. And she didn't even have the guts to stick around and apologize. I get back to my gear, jazzed after an amazing Hot Rize set, only to be told by the people patched out of my deck's digi-feed that this woman had screwed up the chain. ARRRRGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!! Thankfully, the next day I borrowed the tape from the first Tascam in line out of the Apogee and taped the encore. But having to do that again pissed me off. The denoument is that this woman, to her credit, did come up to me and apologize profusely on Saturday. What are you gonna do? At that point, I had cooled off enough. She had also gone out and bought her own mic so nothing like that would happen, so I gave her some pointers and told her to have fun. But minidisk seems to bring nothing but trouble. How many times have MDers come up to me 3 minutes before lights and asked for a patch? I've stopped counting. The low cost, IMHO, brings in people who haven't bothered to learn the ropes before coming in and bugging me. That may sound like elitist crap, but at this point it's happened often enough that I haven't been able to come up with any other reason. On another note, I wanted to thank everyone for offering their opinions on my little problem. The votes seem clear: burn the agreed upon show and send the rest back blank with an explanatory note saying he shouldn't be so presumptuous in the future. Since none of the other shows have track IDs, and are not burned, that is my inclination as well. Cheers Candace ===== Original Message ===== From: "Joshua" To: "Candace Horgan" ; "Digital-Panic" ; "Colorado Tapers" ; "DAT Heads" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [COtapers] Trading etiquette > I'd burn the disks he asked for and tell him you > didn't have time for the rest. You might mention to > him that he has very bad manners, too. > > At the Rusted Root show a few months back a > mini-disker approached me and asked for a patch; I > said sure, do you have a mini-to-mini? He didn't know > what a mini-to-mini was, so I explained it to him. He > found one and came back. I then had to help him start > the recording, explain to him the concept of setting > levels and help him set the levels so they didn't > quite peak at the top. Before the show even started, > he got frustrated, pulled his recorder and left. I > then get an email asking for a B&P copy of the show > (not even an offer of a trade); I say okay. His > package arrived about a week before I left for two > weeks to Telluride; he sends an email right before I > leave asking about the status of his B&P, which I > didn't have time to respond to. A few days later, I > then received a very rude email accusing me of ripping > him off of his $.50 worth of disks; I responded that I > was in Telluride and he quieted down a bit after > making an ass of himself. > > I think I finally sent him his disks about a month > ago...too many fools in the world. > > -Josh > > > --- Candace Horgan wrote: > > What do you all think of this scenario? I gave > > someone a card after one of > > the workshop sets at the Telluride Bluegrass > > Festival, and he emailed me > > shortly thereafter, and again a month later when I > > finally had time to burn > > a show for him. I agreed to burn the set he had > > asked about (Emmylou Harris > > workshop). In the mailbox on Saturday I received a > > package with 10 disks, > > taking up my whole mailbox, and a note, listing in > > order of priority, the > > shows he wants. Now, I had agreed to do one show, > > and he sends me 10 disks, > > saying he knows I don't have time to do all these > > shows, so whatever I can > > burn would be appreciated, and hopefully I can do a > > few more. Personally, > > I'm pretty torqued about the presumption there, and > > am tempted to send all > > 10 disks back and not bother burning the one show I > > agreed to. Opinions? > > > > Cheers > > Candace > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! 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How many times have MDers > come up to me 3 minutes before lights and asked for a patch? I've stopped > counting. The low cost, IMHO, brings in people who haven't bothered to learn > the ropes before coming in and bugging me. That may sound like elitist crap, > but at this point it's happened often enough that I haven't been able to > come up with any other reason. there are asshole datheads too. it has nothing to do with minidisc or dat. it has to do with the person. ******************* "There's nothing worse than being fat, except for being a fat chick." - Howard Stern www.NYLoose.com www.AliceCooper.com www.ADickSite.com ------------------------------ From: "Matt C." Subject: Re: $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 22:04:13 -0700 ===== Original Message ===== From: "Michael Parker" To: "Digestifier" Sent: Monday, October 14, 2002 9:49 PM Subject: $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) > Well, when i started out trading about 7 years back, DAT tapes were > about $3.50 or so. > Maybe the seller is remembering the good old days? (before CDR that is). > > Plus, if there is some music you like on there, i`d say it`s worth an > extra buck > (at least to me) > > Mike $3 is a bargain. my 95s are $5.91 and my 125s are $6.65 you get what you pay for. ******************* "There's nothing worse than being fat, except for being a fat chick." - Howard Stern www.NYLoose.com www.AliceCooper.com www.ADickSite.com ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: $3 tapes (RE: Used tapes) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 02:02:31 -0400 (EDT) > Well, when i started out trading about 7 years back, DAT tapes were > about $3.50 or so. When I started, they were around $10. What matters is the current price. > Plus, if there is some music you like on there, i`d say it`s worth an > extra buck That would be selling the music, which is a Bad Thing. Seth ------------------------------ From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net Subject: FT:3 Doors Down@Metropolis 10-14-02 Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:30:29 +0200 (MEST) Hi there, stealthtaped 3 Doors Down last night here in Munich with incredible, stunning results.This was the only played one public gig in Europe after having visited US Navy Forces in Bahrain and on US bases in Spain and Italy. Tape came out unbelievable, most definitely my best stealth effort to date in more than 6 years and about 100 shows...7 feet from the left speaker stack with a security guard just 3 feet away looking at me for most of the set..:-) 10-14-02 3DD@Metropolis Munich, Germany OKM II Pro>SBM-1>M1 A+ Looking for good rock/alternative rock shows... Best from Munich, Germany Karsten -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen! ------------------------------ From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net Subject: FT:3DD@Metropolis 10-14-2002 (Part II) Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 09:49:38 +0200 (MEST) Sorry, forgot most of what I actually wanted to write in my prvious posting regarding the 3 Doors Down show... The show was professionally taped my a german film crew and will be broadcast in parts in TV stations "Viva" and "Viva Plus" in the upcoming weeks in a show series called "Overdrive". This week, for example, they aired 50 minutes of the Foo Fighters shows in a small club in Cologne which took place a few weeks ago.Check your TV guides for the actual date of the airing... 3 Doors Down played most of the new album which will be released next month.Some pretty strong material, up the the stadard they set with "The better life"... The entire show was about 90 minutes long and included 18 songs... That's it...hope I didn't forget anything else... Best from Munich, Germany Karsten -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen! ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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