DAT-heads Digest #568
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RE: DAT Drives, SCSI cards, and error correction ("Jamie Lutch")
recent or upcoming Brian Setzer Christmas shows (CC)
Taper-friendly Bluegrass in Northeast (-bob)
COLDPLAY: Tokyo 12/6/2002 trade ("hiroyuki tanaka")
LiveRecording.org ("Brian Price")
WTD: TOO November 30, 2002 Palace of Auburn Hills (Darren)
Sony 2700 DAT recorder (LeeHazen@aol.com)
DAT Liquidation for CDR Blanks (David Minches)
FS: Sony DG15CL Dry Head Cleaning Cartriges (Keith Bode)
Re:Mic question - no answer found in FAQ (Charles)
FS @ ebay: Tascam DA-P1 + Extras ("Tim Murray")
Internal Audio capable DAT Drive (Keith Bode)
ISO: Springsteen Atlanta 12/2/02 - Florida shows to trade ("Dark Star Enterprises")
21st Century Schizoid Band in Japan ("Toshitaka Kuniyoshi")
From: "Jamie Lutch" <jlutch@altairinc.com>
Subject: RE: DAT Drives, SCSI cards, and error correction
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 18:15:00 -0800
>
> Most of the Adaptec SCSI cards, have the drivers built intto Windows, in
> W98 OS2, and presumably most versions forward from them. I haven't set
> up a Tape drive on a SCSI chain before, but I've set up other CDR, RW
> and ROM devices, and the 2 little things to remember seem to be to
> decide which number SCSI device you'd like to use, 0 through 7 and to
> put the TERM jumper on the highest numbered device.
term goes on the device at the end of the cable, not the device with the
highest ID number
After setting up
> one system, it's like riding a bike, it becomes second nature, or it did
> for me. I would think after getting the Drive recognized in the chain,
> the next step is to get the drive recognized by the software.
>
> Another advantage of a SCSI chain is the use of SCSI burneers, and
> CD-ROMS. IMO, I'd take a Plextor SCSI CD-R or RW over a faster IDE
> unit, and the same with the Plextor CD-ROMS. These days it's becoming
> less and less of an issue, but by using SCSI devices, more IDE/ATA spots
> are available.
I used to be a big scsi fan, and still own a workhorse 4 year old plex 8/20.
But I'm really diggin the cheap ide burners on the market these days. I just
picked up a 48X burner for $40 this weekend, it really does burna disc in 2
minutes withthe proper 48X media (tho me being paranoid, I'll prob run it at
24X for most discs.
>
>
> I want to give additional infos for some people on that topic:
>
> To have a perfect bit-to-bit-perfect signal transport you must create
> additional info for error correction that is tranferred together with
> the music data on a transmission line. The more error correction data
> -dependent from
> the music data- you create, the more bit-to-bit-perfect is the transport
> from one point to another. That is valid for broadcasting and also for
> storing digital data.
storing, maybe, transmission, no. Media where the data is subject to
degradation (CD or DAT), use data formats with error correction to get a
'clean' signal to the spdif transmitter. But there is no error correction
built into spdif or aes data per se. Thus transmission is generally all or
nothing. With hard drives, bits dont get 'corrected', they just get read,
buffered, and streamed. the most common error when reading off a hard drive
is dropped samples, where some data min the waveform might be missing. But
there is no error correction other than that built into the file system
(which is a higher order correction than the reed-solomon code used for cds
and DATs). A cd orDAT stream can have 1 out of 1000 bits as errors and still
be inaudible. usually one bad bit in a data file on a hard drive will make
the entire file unreadable.
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From: CC <stl_cc@yahoo.com>
Subject: recent or upcoming Brian Setzer Christmas shows
Date: Sat, 7 Dec 2002 22:23:35 -0800 (PST)
Love to get my hands on a copy of any of the recent or
soon to be upcoming Setzer Christmas shows. Lots of
stuff to trade. Contact me if interested.
Thanks,
Chris
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From: -bob <nattyfret@yahoo.com>
Subject: Taper-friendly Bluegrass in Northeast
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 05:38:28 -0800 (PST)
The Waybacks, a very talented Bluegrass/StringBand
from California are playing several venues in the NYC,
NJ, MA, PA area.
Knitting Factory, NYC - Weds. 12/4
Landsdowne, PA - Thurs. 12/5
Bethlehem, PA - Fri. 12/6
Falls River, MA -Sat. 12/7
Shelbourne Falls, MA -Sun. 12/8
Somerville, MA -Tues. 12/10
Stanhope House, NJ - Thurs. 12/12
Their sound will bring String Cheese, Yonder Mountain,
NGR, Old and in the Way, etc. to mind. They do lots of
originals and have been featured in "Recording"
magazine.
After petitioning them for an open taping policy, they
posted one on the their webpage:
http://www.waybacks.com/
If you like good string music, come on out and help
support the bands that support our hobby!
If you get out and tape them, drop me a line for a
good trade.
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From: "hiroyuki tanaka" <h-tanaka@yc4.so-net.ne.jp>
Subject: COLDPLAY: Tokyo 12/6/2002 trade
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 22:33:15 +0900
Hello,
I taped CLOLDPLAY Tokyo 12/6/2002 (about 85 minutes).
This show was secret gig, invitation only.
I used Sony TCD-100 and DSM6S, excellent sound.
If someone is interested in my tape, please contact me.
I would like to trade my tape for Beck, Primal Scream, Red Hot Chili Peppers
and Peter Gabriel 2002 show.
I want to trade on DAT.
Please send me your lists for a quick trade.
Thanks Hiro
From: "Brian Price" <bprice31@cox.net>
Subject: LiveRecording.org
Reply-To: <brian@ugeeku.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:32:37 -0600
I have been working on a new taping & trading website.
The structure is done and I'd welcome any comments or
additions you might have. Please have a look at
http://www.liverecording.org/
Thanks
Brian
From: Darren <dnemeth01@sprynet.com>
Subject: WTD: TOO November 30, 2002 Palace of Auburn Hills
Reply-To: dnemeth01@sprynet.com
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 11:44:08 -0500
Hello,
I was at the TOO November 30, 2002 Palace of Auburn Hills show. Haven't
found it in the usual places yet.
Can someone spin me a copy?
Have a nice day, :)
Darren Nemeth
dnemeth01@sprynet.com
Owner of "Giant Squid Audio Lab" - Specialists in durable, high
fidelity Binaural / Stereo and Mono miniature microphones
for discriminating DAT and Mini Disc recording enthusiasts.
http://www.giant-squid-audio-lab.com/
From: LeeHazen@aol.com
Subject: Sony 2700 DAT recorder
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 11:33:51 EST
This is my first post to the list.
I was given a Sony 2700 Pro Dat recorder a year or so ago. It plays fine
however won't record.
I didn't recieve an owners' manual with it and wondered if anyone had an extra
one to sell or would be interested in making me a copy of it for $$.
Can you recomend anyone in the Nashville area who could service this machine?
Lee Hazen
Hendersonville, Tn - NE of Nashville
From: David Minches <dminches@comcast.net>
Subject: DAT Liquidation for CDR Blanks
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 12:43:53 -0500
Just finished transferring those listed below. There are 60 total.
I'd like in exchange 400 TY 80 minute CDR blanks (CDRPLANET.com has that
for $116 - less than $2 per DAT).
Winner will be notified.
David
5/31/69 - 2
1/10/70 + 7/14/70 - 1
11/6/70 - 1
9/18/70 / 9/19/70 - 1
2/18/71 - 1
2/21/71 - 1
8/15/71 - 1
11/15/71 - 1
12/2/71 - 2
5/18/72 - 1
7/25/72 (1st set) - 1
8/24/72 - 1
8/25/72 - 1
9/9/72 - 2
10/2/72 - 2
11/14/72 - 2
3/16/73 - 2
5/26/73 - 2
6/30/73 - 1
9/15/72 (2nd) - 1
5/25/74 - 1
6/18/74 - 1
7/21/74 / 7/29/74 - 1
7/31/74 - 2
9/18/74 - 1
10/16/74 - 1
12/19/75 JGB - 1
6/3/76 - 2
6/10/76 - 1
6/14/76 - 2
6/19/76 - 1
7/20/76 JGB - 1
8/4/76 - 1
12/31/76 - 1
5/1/77 (II) - 1
5/4/77 - 1
5/11/77 - 1
5/21/77 - 1
6/4/77 / 1/15/79 - 1
10/29/77 - 2
12/10/77 JGB - 1
12/31/77 - 1
1/7/78 - 1
10/21/78 - 1
8/3/82 - 1
3/22/90 -1
S & G - 5/4,11/92 -1
Weir / Wasserman - 11/21/92 - 1
Bridge School Benefit - 10/28/95 - 2
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: FS: Sony DG15CL Dry Head Cleaning Cartriges
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 10:02:34 -0800
I know many of us do not like the idea of dry head cleaning, and I'm not
particularly fond of it either. None the less, occasinally I do it, as
do some of our other members. I was able to pick up another batch of
these, and if anyone would like one, or more, I can pass them on for $5
each plus $1 shipping. Purchases of 5 or more will be sent via USPS
Priority Mail, 5 to 10 will be $5 shipping. If you don't like dry head
cleaning, refraining from sinking teeth in my butt would be appreciated,
as I have already experienced this.
Keith
From: Charles <cvm900@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re:Mic question - no answer found in FAQ
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 10:29:30 -0800 (PST)
I've used both of these mics, so maybe I can provide
a bit of user experience that might help. I started
with the C1000's about three years ago and switched to
the NT3's last year. From a practical point of view
the C1000 is more flexible because of the
card/hypercard option, but the specs that are usually
listed for these mics are not accurate. Most online
retailers state the frequency response as 20 to 20k
hz, but in reality the low end response is only about
50 hz according to the owners manual, and this is
noticeable. My set of C1000's did not have an octave
rolloff switch, so you may want to check that again. I
now run the NT3's and have been much happier with
their performance. The low end is great, though they
tend to have a bit of roll off at the top end, so they
are not quite as bright as the AKG's, but I'm still
very pleased with the way the RODEs sound. I've made
some really nice recordings with the NT3's, but their
application can be limited because they are hypers. I
was so impressed with the price and performance of the
NT3's I got a second set of RODE mics, the NT5's, to
use when I want to run cardioids. So as a general rule
I use the NT3's indoors and the NT5's outdoor.
Having two sets of mics is obviously more expensive
than having one set with a convertible polar pattern,
but I like the RODE mics better and wouldn't switch
back to the AKG's. Where do you plan to do most of
your taping? If it's mostly indoors I'd go with the
NT3.
RODE has a shorter history than AKG and for that
reason they are not as well known. And RODE's website
is sorely lacking in technical info, but their
products seem to be every bit as well made as AKG's. I
had no problems with any of the mics I had from either
company. I've noticed that a lot of tapers I've talked
to haven't heard of RODE so therefore aren't willing
to give these mics a chance. I think the NT3 and the
NT5 are pretty damn good mics for the money. I haven't
recieved any complaints about the tapes I've made with
them, and some people are even pleasantly suprised.
Hope this helps. Feel free to write if you have any
other questions about these mics.
From: "Tim Murray" <32things@sympatico.ca>
Subject: FS @ ebay: Tascam DA-P1 + Extras
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 14:22:50 -0500
I'm selling my DA-P1, 3 external batteries, charger, XLR cables and
Portabrace carrying case on ebay. It was a tough decision, as this unit
has given me no problems since I've owned it. The reason for selling is
that I just don't use it enough to justify still owning it.
You can find the auction at:
http://cgi.ebay.ca/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?MfcISAPICommand=ViewItem&item=928821
721
Cheers.
Tim
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Internal Audio capable DAT Drive
Date: Sun, 08 Dec 2002 13:47:07 -0800
I have placed a bid on an Audio Capable Internal DAT Drive on eBay.
After placing the bid on item 2077592549, I've decided I really don't
want it. I have 2 DAT decks, and really don't need this unit. If
anyone wants it for my Bid price should I win, and it ends in about 7
hours, the drive is at $49.95, and my max bid is $55, let me know and
it's your's for my bid price. If you want to outbid me, and bid $56, no
hard feelings at all.
Keith
From: "Dark Star Enterprises" <jtsalike@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: ISO: Springsteen Atlanta 12/2/02 - Florida shows to trade
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 17:26:30 -0500
Hey Gang! Searching for a copy of the Atlanta 12/2/02 show...I have the 3
florida shows to trade.....
From: "Toshitaka Kuniyoshi" <thrak@mocha.ocn.ne.jp>
Subject: 21st Century Schizoid Band in Japan
Date: Sun, 8 Dec 2002 12:44:16 +0900
Hi All,
I had taped 21st Century Schizoid Band @ Tokyo
and I have realy nice tapes of 2nd night show in Tokyo and Osaka.
Three tapes are very forward,time is about 100min.
I'd like to hear from anyone else who had taped Peter Gabriel shows in 2002
and perhaps arrange a trade.
Also looking for PROG shows.
Contact me privately,if you are interested in a trade on DAT(only).
Sorry, no time for B&P right now.
Thanks!
Toshi thrak@mocha.ocn.ne.jp
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