DAT-heads Digest #579
Contents:
FS: Sony TCD-D8 w/ digi cable on Half.com ("Jagjit Chadha")
Phish NYE Taper Tix *TRADE* ("Just some random dude")
ISO AT 8410 Shockmounts
Re: CD Track marks ("Slipkid")
to dampen that backlight (david)
Coldplay-8/14/02-Minneapolis, First Avenue-Dat master for trade... (Corey Present)
Re: Midiman CO2 problem (Jeff Lester)
RE: what kind of rigs gonna be at x mas jam?? (gottajiboo40@mac.com)
FS: Aiwa portable DAT ("Todd & Margo Ramsden")
Re: to dampen that backlight (Mark Mayhle)
ISO Tom Petty 12/13 MSG (Rbglea@aol.com)
Re Little Feat Waiting for Columbus 2002 ("Eric G. Postel \(home\)")
Sony PCM-M1 recording to Turtle Beach Pinnacle (Alec McLane)
FS Tix - Clark, Lovett, Ely & Hiatt (michael ryan)
Re: Sony PCM-M1 recording to Turtle Beach Pinnacle (David Carmean)
Re: Sony PCM-M1 recording to Turtle Beach Pinnacle (Todd Romero)
ISO: KROCK xmas show 2002 (giorgi@xs4all.nl)
FA: AKG 391's w/ extras - CORRECTED LINK ("Kris Kjellquist")
yet another digicard question (Bill Gardner)
Sony PC-M1 for 3rd night Hampton ("Darin Shackelford")
From: "Jagjit Chadha" <jugu122@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Sony TCD-D8 w/ digi cable on Half.com
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:22:00 +0000
Subject says it all. here's the link:
http://half.ebay.com/cat/buy/prod.cgi?cpid=1136809847&meta_id=null
Jagjit
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From: "Just some random dude" <justsomerandomdude@hotmail.com>
Subject: Phish NYE Taper Tix *TRADE*
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:24:24 -0500
Do you need NYE taper's tix?
My friend accidentily ordered taper preferred. I have a PAIR of tapers that
I want to trade for
2 regular tix. If you want to hook this up here's what I am looking for:
1) Good seats for NYE. Send your seat locations in your reply. *(must be
together!!!)
2) I want to buy your Vegas tix for face. Need 1 for each night. More if
you have can swing it.
3) Got out shut out of Cinci & Chicago too
Make an offer and I will get back to you. Include rig info. I'd like to
hook up the nicest
rig possible, but at this point my priority is getting in Thomas & Mack.NYE
4) DATs or SHNSso of NYE would be nice ;)
Trade to be made in person in NYC on the 30th.
From: <nickg@mindspring.com>
Subject: ISO AT 8410 Shockmounts
Reply-To: nickg@mindspring.com
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:30:15 -0500
Anybody got a set they wanna get rid of? Drop me an email
(nickg@mindspring.com) and we'll set something up...
Nick
BWT:
Derek Trucks Band 11-4-02 (AKG C1000'S->Denecke AD20->Sony D8) for the 1st
5...shn discs only
From: "Slipkid" <slipkid@voicenet.com>
Subject: Re: CD Track marks
Reply-To: "Slipkid" <slipkid@voicenet.com>
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:36:04 -0500
gary wrote:
> You should consider using a cue sheet with CDRWIN software
> instead of EZCD Creator. With this software, you don't actually
> divide the file, you just list the exact times where you want the cut
> points.
i agree 100% with this; i find working with cuesheets very simple &
straightforward, & much easier than futzing with splitting up wavefiles
but just want to point out that Exact Audio Copy (EAC) also supports
cuesheets for burning, and EAC is "free" (postcardware), plus it is the best
thing to use for extracting audio from discs
EAC can be downloaded here - http://www.exactaudiocopy.de/
i also use CDRWIN (mostly only for data backups anymore), it is a good
program, but if you're only going to be writing audio, EAC will do the same
thing (+ extract audio much better) for $40 less
go here for more info on CDRWIN - http://www.goldenhawk.com/
also, regarding writing cuesheets, all you really need is a text editor, but
i find CDRcue to be a very useful program for writing cuesheets:
http://www.dcsoft.com/prod03.htm
regards,
- jon -
From: david <slowtrain@comcast.net>
Subject: to dampen that backlight
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 18:53:26 -0500
that blue light on the sony decks (and others) is a dead giveaway. i found
the perfect fix:
red contact photomasking sheet (i believe it's called). i bought mine (way
back) from an art supply store on some college campus. it's the same kind
of film used for safe lights in dark rooms (it only lets long wavelength
light through). it's sticky on one side and cuts the bright blue (short
wavelength) light, so the net effect is that you can check levels without
the beacon going off.
dwb
At 05:50 PM 12/17/02 -0500, you wrote:
>From: "lee bittner" <southsur@hotmail.com>
>Subject: backlighting
>Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 23:50:54 +0000
>
>In addition to being pretty noticeable from all over the venue, the
>backlight will, at 0 attenuation-setting, introduce a nasty hum on your
>recording. This won't happen at the (-)20 setting, though you'll still be
>seen by security.
From: Corey Present <coreypresent@yahoo.com>
Subject: Coldplay-8/14/02-Minneapolis, First Avenue-Dat master for trade...
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 16:58:15 -0800 (PST)
Got a great dat master of their show here. One of only
6 shows I think on their short club tour.
OKMIIR>A3>TCD-D8
Prefer Cd trade but dat is also available.
Looking for other masters (all tours)by U2, Oasis,
Garbage, Coldplay, Radiohead, Mason Jennings, Nivana,
Pete Yorn, others also but there are the main ones
right now.
If interested send me a list.
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From: Jeff Lester <lester@trex.sp.trw.com>
Subject: Re: Midiman CO2 problem
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:28:06 -0800 (PST)
"Jamie Lutch" <jlutch@altairinc.com> added:
>The drops you explain seem similar to what I've seen with the co2, it just
>sometimes gives random drops for no apparent reason. Its better suited as a
>'toy' than a 'tool' to be relied upon. I've tested 4 co2's, they all do this
>on occasion.
Seems like that may be the case.
>Does the ad500 not have an optical out like the ad1000?
It does, but this ad500 has been mounted in a wood box and I can't reach
into it well enough to pull the covers off the TOSLINK connectors.
>whats wrong with simply chaining the d100 and d8 (assuming you had another
>7pin>coax available)
Didn't have any 7-pin with coax in and out, only 2 Sony coax-in>7-pin cables.
-Jeff Lester
From: gottajiboo40@mac.com
Subject: RE: what kind of rigs gonna be at x mas jam??
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:46:18 -0500
Gordon,
I will be there running:
ADK A-51 TL's > V2 > MMe
-Jason B
From: "Todd & Margo Ramsden" <tramsden@earthlink.net>
Subject: FS: Aiwa portable DAT
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:32:45 -0500
I guess it's time to let go of an extra DAT deck. I'm selling my
Aiwa HDX-3000 portable DAT deck. Got a Sony D100 to replace my Aiwa last
year (smaller, less power hungry) and haven't much been using the Aiwa
since. Kept it just in case as a back-up portable, but the Nomad JB3 seems
to do ok as a backup.
The Aiwa HDX-3000 is exactly the same as the Aiwa/HHB1 and the Marantz
PMD-700. Also known as the brick due to its size/shape--4" x 2.375" x
8.375". Runs on 10 internal AA batteries for 2 1/2 to 3 hours or can run on
a 6v SLA--7.2Ahr allows for 4 1/2 to 5 hours record time.
Has XLR line/mic inputs, RCA analog line inputs and outputs, RCA coax
digital input and output (coax in/out--no need for those damn 7-pin
cables!), as well as some kind of DIN connector digi in/out. Separate L-R
record level knobs. Records from mic in (0db, 15db, and 30db attenuation)
or from XLR line in or RCA line in. It has excellent mic and line in analog
sections--sounds very nice even when used without outboard equipment and
I've never had a problem with brickwalling, even when recording directly
from very hot soundboards.
Can also be used a home deck. It has a full-size transport and full-sized
heads--truly a workhorse. Is not controlled by SCMS, so you can record
whatever you want. Makes for a great dubbing deck.
Unit is in excellent shape and the heads still look great. Transport was
re-built last year by Paul at ProDig who replaced all the aging rubber in
the transport, re-aligned it, etc.--i.e, a major overhaul.
Comes with wall-wart (replacement, not original), pleather case, and battery
cable for an SLA (for direct connection to the battery tabs, but shouldn't
be too hard to add a 4-pin XLR if thats what you use). I'll also throw in a
5-pin XLR to dual(L-R) 3 pin XLR cable for use with the XLR input (XLR input
is on 5-pin XLR). Looking for $250 plus shipping.
-Todd
From: Mark Mayhle <mark@mayhle.com>
Subject: Re: to dampen that backlight
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 20:42:40 -0600 (CST)
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, david wrote:
> that blue light on the sony decks (and others) is a dead giveaway. i found
> the perfect fix:
>
> red contact photomasking sheet (i believe it's called). i bought mine (way
> back) from an art supply store on some college campus. it's the same kind
> of film used for safe lights in dark rooms (it only lets long wavelength
> light through). it's sticky on one side and cuts the bright blue (short
> wavelength) light, so the net effect is that you can check levels without
> the beacon going off.
I like to run the cord of the little D100 remote down my sleeve and hold
the remote in my palm. It just kind of dangles there so I don't have to
be holding onto it the whole time. It's not illuminated, but I use a
red-lens flashlight (actually a little disposable light with several
layers of red fingernail polish painted on the bulb) to check it as
needed.
--
Mark Mayhle
mark@mayhle.com
From: Rbglea@aol.com
Subject: ISO Tom Petty 12/13 MSG
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 22:20:04 -0500
Hi All,
Last Friday something went wrong in my attempt to tape Tom Petty at MSG, and I only came away w/ the last 40M. Sound came out excellent for the last 40M (SKM-140s>M2>M1), but I would be very interested in a complete version, or at least the first 90M, of what turned out to be a great show.
No other Tom Petty to offer on DAT, but plenty of Who, Clapton, U2, REM, and others. If anyone's interested in a trade please email me privately.
Thanks,
Rob
From: "Eric G. Postel \(home\)" <ericpostel@compuserve.com>
Subject: Re Little Feat Waiting for Columbus 2002
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 17:40:05 -0600
The band, which has always been pro-taper, specifically asked that the show
not be recorded or traded. This week one band member told a taper that they
were disappointed with how the audio tapes came out but that the video was
fine and might yet be released commercially. Nothing was said about
changing the band's request not to trade it. The concert was a benefit and
presumably the sales would at least partially, if not entirely, go to the
charities.
Eric
From: Alec McLane <amclane@snet.net>
Subject: Sony PCM-M1 recording to Turtle Beach Pinnacle
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 00:04:18 -0500
I'm having a problem transferring from a PCM-M1 to the digital input of a
Pinnacle. There is no digital signal detected when I try recording.
Unfortunately Turtle Beach isn't much help because they've discontinued
this sound card, but one answer they do offer that seems to make sense is
that portable DATs like this Sony don't transmit a clock signal all the
time since the digital I/O is a single port and the machine defaults to
record mode. So the receiver doesn't receive a continuous clock signal and
therefore can't detect digital input (or something like that, I guess).
However 2 tests suggested it's more complicated than this: The same setup
works fine on a Mac G3 with the Audiomedia III card, so there's obviously
no clock-signal problem there. And my Pinnacle also doesn't receive digital
input from a non-portable DAT recorder, the Sony DTC-A7, which has separate
digital inputs and outputs. The Pinnacle has a separate S/PDIF bracket with
coax input and output jacks, but also allows you to set a jumper and use
the 1/8" mic input as digital input instead. I've tried both ways with the
same result.
Does anybody have similar experiences? Is there evidence of ANY digital
device that can be recorded with the Pinnacle?
Alec McLane
From: michael ryan <luv2brew@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS Tix - Clark, Lovett, Ely & Hiatt
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 21:33:01 -0800 (PST)
Hey Now All!!
One week to get rid of these tix. I have four extra
tix available to the Fox Theatre shows in Redwood City
, Sunday, Feb. 16th . They are 3rd or 4th row center.
I am looking for experienced stealther's as I only
have a DAP1 and Akg 391s so kinda hard to stealth.
These tix are XLNT for taping as they are dead center
floor, 3rd or 4th row. Date change is the reason
others are giving these up.
However they must respond by the 24th of this month.
So if no taper takes them they go back to the box
office. I want an experienced taper to help collect
these shows and these are great tix for that
purpose...
Price is about $90 with all the tax's and what
not... That is face value and all we ask is that if
you get a good copy please include us in the
offerings...
Please let me know ASAP....
Peace, Michael
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From: David Carmean <dlc@halibut.com>
Subject: Re: Sony PCM-M1 recording to Turtle Beach Pinnacle
Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2002 23:53:56 -0800
On Wed, Dec 18, 2002 at 12:04:18AM -0500, Alec McLane wrote:
> I'm having a problem transferring from a PCM-M1 to the digital input of a
> Pinnacle. There is no digital signal detected when I try recording.
> Unfortunately Turtle Beach isn't much help because they've discontinued
> this sound card, but one answer they do offer that seems to make sense is
> that portable DATs like this Sony don't transmit a clock signal all the
> time since the digital I/O is a single port and the machine defaults to
> record mode. So the receiver doesn't receive a continuous clock signal and
> therefore can't detect digital input (or something like that, I guess).
I think they're blowing smoke. With my M1 left plugged into the S/PDIF
input of my Echo Mia, I always see a clock signal from the M1, even
with the unit stopped and the tape unloaded. With the M1 at 48khz,
if I forget to switch back to the soundcard driver's internal clock,
my mp3s and cdda files play fast.
You should be able to loop a coax cable from the soundcard output
to it's input to check the card's digital functioning. On my Mia
driver, the external s/pdif sync indicator will light up.
I'll bet that your card uses a Crystal Semiconductor CS84xx S/PDIF
tranceiver and that it's given up the ghost. Yours are essentially the
same symptoms I had when Echo shipped me a bad replacement card
with a dead CS8412.
From: Todd Romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: Re: Sony PCM-M1 recording to Turtle Beach Pinnacle
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 04:09:42 -0500 (EST)
according to the turtle beach site, there should be an advancecd input
option that allows you to set a fallback sample rate if the card cannot
sync to the external device.
the other reason their 'knowledge base' gave for having no digital input
signal was:
"If the digital I/O card is installed pointing in the wrong direction, the
digital audio may not work."
"Install the digital I/O board underneath the SIMM sockets on the card,
covering the large socketed chip"
On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Alec McLane wrote:
> I'm having a problem transferring from a PCM-M1 to the digital input of a
> Pinnacle. There is no digital signal detected when I try recording.
> Unfortunately Turtle Beach isn't much help because they've discontinued
> this sound card, but one answer they do offer that seems to make sense is
> that portable DATs like this Sony don't transmit a clock signal all the
> time since the digital I/O is a single port and the machine defaults to
> record mode. So the receiver doesn't receive a continuous clock signal and
> therefore can't detect digital input (or something like that, I guess).
>
> However 2 tests suggested it's more complicated than this: The same setup
> works fine on a Mac G3 with the Audiomedia III card, so there's obviously
> no clock-signal problem there. And my Pinnacle also doesn't receive digital
> input from a non-portable DAT recorder, the Sony DTC-A7, which has separate
> digital inputs and outputs. The Pinnacle has a separate S/PDIF bracket with
> coax input and output jacks, but also allows you to set a jumper and use
> the 1/8" mic input as digital input instead. I've tried both ways with the
> same result.
>
> Does anybody have similar experiences? Is there evidence of ANY digital
> device that can be recorded with the Pinnacle?
>
> Alec McLane
>
From: giorgi@xs4all.nl
Subject: ISO: KROCK xmas show 2002
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:18:28 +0100 (CET)
Is there anyone who would like to trade this one with me?
From: "Kris Kjellquist" <kkjellquist@meditech.com>
Subject: FA: AKG 391's w/ extras - CORRECTED LINK
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 8:54:17 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time)
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Sorry for the bad link in the previous post;
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D930476706
Kris Kjellquist, Applications Specialist, 781-774-5047
Medical Information Technology, Inc.
Mailstop: F4E33W, MEDITECH Circle, Westwood, MA 02090
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From: Bill Gardner <b.gard@attbi.com>
Subject: yet another digicard question
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 08:25:07 -0700
Hi there,
Well I've flat out, given up on getting my Dio 2448 to work with Win XP.
I guess when the company says XP isn't supported they really mean it....
So I guess I gotta purchase a new soundcard and the Ediroal UA-1D looks
very appealing and very affordable, (especially for the jobless type...)
Check it out:
http://www.micsupply.com/edirolua1d.htm
Does anyone have any thoughts or complaints on this card? Has anyone
used this in the field with a laptop setup? (I realize its only a 16 bit
card...)
Thanks,
Bill Gardner
From: "Darin Shackelford" <scifreak3@hotmail.com>
Subject: Sony PC-M1 for 3rd night Hampton
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2002 10:28:21 -0500
hey all,
looking to trade my sony pc-m1 portable dat deck for two tickets for the
third night hampton,includes digi cable. deck has been taken well care of.
Please let me know if interested. Shine, Darin
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