DAT-heads Digest #586
Contents:
Hot Tuna at the Beacon (mike lyons)
Re: cd-r info. (Joe Rioux)
Sony r300 home dat deck for trade for tickets (DancinFace@aol.com)
Re: Taiyo Yuden ("Digital Ambience")
Memorex, Imation, Ritek, CMC, Fuji and TY media (Keith Bode)
Re: Taiyo Yuden ("Digital Ambience")
Re: holiday jam (wilkinsmd@attbi.com)
ARCHIVING GILLIAN WELCH ("Cap Spaulding")
Huge Dat B+P Offer (" charlie miller")
From: mike lyons <mikethedj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Hot Tuna at the Beacon
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 08:13:09 -0800 (PST)
Hey there - does anyone have a nice copy of the recent
(Sat after Thankgiving) NYC, Beacon Theater Hot Tuna
show that they would like to trade? I'd also be
interested in the opener (Chris Smither) if you have
it. Please contact me offlist.
Thanks,
Mike
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From: Joe Rioux <jrioux@attbi.com>
Subject: Re: cd-r info.
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:13:09 -0500
> From: Les Gordon <lesg@microserve.net>
>
> cd-rs are made by ri-tek. taiyo yuden does not produce colored media. also
Not sure what qualifies as "colored media" to you, but the
last spindle of Fuji CDs I bought had a colored design on
them (like a swirl with text that said FUJIFILM CD-R 80min
700mb). There were about 6 or 8 different colors in the
spindle and CDRIdentifier said they were mfg. by Tayio Yuden.
From: DancinFace@aol.com
Subject: Sony r300 home dat deck for trade for tickets
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 12:56:20 EST
hey all,
trying to get my girl in, shes willing to let her sonyr300 home dat unit go
for a ticket for each night of hampton. Deck has low, low hours on it ,
still under warranty, and as a bonus, we could clone you copys of each night
after the shows!! Email me directly if interested, times gettin close.
Shine, Darin 1919-523-3437
From: "Digital Ambience" <digitalambience@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Taiyo Yuden
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:46:48 -0500
The Taiyo Yuden made discs have a 70 year life and among the lowest errors
of any disc on the planet. The Fuji discs are a no-brainer when you
consider the cost. Best option would still be the Mitsui discs with the
100+ year life, low errors, AND universal compatability with every audio cd
player due to it's unique dye properties. Mitsui's are the only disc that
play and track perfectly(individual tracks can be selected) on every cd
player. They're the only current data brand that tracks perfectly on my cd
player. The first generation TDK's and Verbatim's also tracked perfectly
but the current crop don't.
Fuji, Verbtaim , TDK(real TDK's) all failed the universal compatability test
although the TDK Audio discs did track perfectly.
Mitsui also made some claims in their literature about having a better sound
than other brands. It could be related to the fact they have better
reflectivity specs and better tracking.
You can find out the real disc manufacturer with this program:
http://www.gum.de/cdrid/
>From: Christopher D Gacek <gace0003@umn.edu>
>Subject: Taiyo Yuden
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:03:52 CST
>
>
>Can someone please explain WHY the Taiyo Tuden discs are better than the
>others?
>
>Much Appreciation,
>Chris
>
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From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Memorex, Imation, Ritek, CMC, Fuji and TY media
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 10:52:31 -0800
As the individual's who wrote the posts below ask the same question on a
couple of similar topics, that question being WHY, I can only offer this
as an answer, and it really is all I know, or feel I need to know. I
don't know why. I don't even know anyone who has really even expressd
an answer to why. I also feel from my own experiences, and from the
anecdotal experiences I have read, why doesn't matter to me. What
matters to me is the concistency of the expressed anecdotal experiences
of others, combined with my experiences is Memorex, Imation, all media
made by CMC Magnetics and Ritek is a nightmare. Fuji Film 80 minute
discs in the blue shrink wrap is very reliable, and has worked well for
myself,and many, many others on multiple mailing lists. I have also had
great success with unbranded TY media. Since I have had great success,
as have many others with the TY manufactured media, I don't have a
problem that needs fixing. If all the sudden TY and Fuji did something
like TDK did several years ago when they stopped manufacturing their
own, or had someone manufacture for them, the media with a dark blue
recording surface many of us used. I highly doubt I would be looking at
brands of media that are manufactured by 3 different manufacturers, and
I have had trouble with their media before. This planet, this universe,
is filled with many, many unanswered questions. The questin of why does
this manufacturers media have a bad reputation, and this companies have
a good reputation are questions I personally dn't need to know. What I
feel I do need to know when I walk into Best Buy is buy Fuji Film media
when it's on sale, don't buy Memorex media because of personal and
anecdotal experiences. Perhaps there is an Audio, or Chemical Engineer
on the list who can answer these why questions.
Keith
> From: USERCRE8S@aol.com
> Subject: memorex CDR's
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 15:22:20 EST
>
> I don't know about any horror stories, but if you get the ones with the Black
>
> screw on plastic thing (resembling the white screw on things like on Fuji)
> and if they say mfg in Japan, then they are TY's...otherwise they are Ritek
> or the bad brand.
> From: Richard Levy <liverich@sunlink.net>
> Subject: Memorex CD-Rs again
> Reply-To: liverich@sunlink.net
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 18:57:18 -0500
>
> Thanks for the personal and list replies. Price isn't an issue. Can
> anyone relate specifics about how and (if you know) why these discs
> don't perform like others? I'm only interested in archival stability and
> compatibility with player and drive issues. I have the light dye discs
> that don't have a shattered glass icon on the brand surface. I've heard
> about the Japan/Taiwan matter, but I still don't get why the
> difference. Rich
>
> From: Christopher D Gacek <gace0003@umn.edu>
> Subject: Taiyo Yuden
> Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:03:52 CST
>
>
> Can someone please explain WHY the Taiyo Tuden discs are better than the
> others?
>
> Much Appreciation,
> Chris
From: "Digital Ambience" <digitalambience@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Taiyo Yuden
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 13:59:01 -0500
Forgot to mention that Ritek, CMC Magnetics and other inferior quality media
have a substantially lower life span than Mitsui/TY. Their dye is less
stable and prone to unreadable errors as early as a few years into their
life. I once received one brand that had audio becoming static-like halfway
through the disc within days after the receving them when they originally
played fine.
Despite all the negativity surrounding Ritek, they signed a major deal to
manufacture the DVD discs for some major studio DVD releases in europe.
>From: Christopher D Gacek <gace0003@umn.edu>
>Subject: Taiyo Yuden
>Date: Mon, 23 Dec 2002 23:03:52 CST
>
>
>Can someone please explain WHY the Taiyo Tuden discs are better than the
>others?
>
>Much Appreciation,
>Chris
>
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From: wilkinsmd@attbi.com
Subject: Re: holiday jam
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 19:21:53 +0000
Offer is closed, hopefully others will be offering it back up soon.
Thanks
Mark
> From: wilkinsmd@attbi.com
> Subject: holiday jam
> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 02:45:50 +0000
>
> Wanted to help spread a little holiday jam...PEARL Jam that is. Have all four
> of their recent Seattle shows on 8 CD-R's (12/5, 12/6, 12/8, 12/9, see
> www.fivehorizons.com for details). These are stealth recordings "unknown
> Schoeps -> unknown preamp -> unknown DAT" if you need more details sorry can't
> help you. They all sound great; first show has a few minutes mono where someone
> bumped the taper pretty hard and one channel went out...fortunately he recovered
> before too long.
>
> Can do 2 B&P if you can get your packages out quickly and offer them back up in
> turn to others. BTW this is a close approximation of my idea of B&P
> http://www.mcnichol.com/bnp/ if you can't do that then please move on.
>
> Happy holidays
> Mark
>
From: "Cap Spaulding" <capspaulding@hotmail.com>
Subject: ARCHIVING GILLIAN WELCH
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 11:37:25 -0800
Completist building a comprehensive archive on GILLIAN WELCH and DAVID
RAWLINGS. I'll trade for any show I don't have. I'll trade for good tapes,
bad tapes, incomplete tapes, fragments, brief appearances at other artists
shows, interviews, especially need video. confidences respected.
http://www.tapetrader.com/Spaulding.
click on artist name to see list of shows, click on date of show to see
setlists and notes, click on Print Version to see spreadsheet.
trying to establish dates and venues for tour history. If you know of a
show or attended a show not on my list please e-mail me.
Richard
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From: " charlie miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: Huge Dat B+P Offer
Reply-To: charliemiller87@earthlink.net
Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2002 21:26:06 -0800
I have the following dats for B+P. I will accept Sony 60meter or 90meter dats
(For you newbies, that is 2 hour or 3 hour tapes). I will only do this by
band, not individual show. For dates and sources, please contact me.
Grateful Dead - 374 Dats
Widespread Panic - 156 Dats
moe - 285 Dats
Disco Biscuits - 28 Dats
Dave Matthews Band/Dave + Tim - 26 Dats
If you want all of them, it comes to 869 Dats.
Since this is a B+P, you pay shipping :)
Happy Holidays.
cm
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