DAT-heads Digest #588, Volume #6 Fri, 27 Dec 02 10:50:00 EST Contents: FAA docs for eco batteries? ("Ethan Alpert") Re: eBay tickets (Keith Bode) CDR media - use what works best for you (Joe Rioux) Re: CDR media - use what works best for you (Liam Sean Kennedy) Photocopiers, Magnetism and DATs? (Dan Wellman) Re: Photocopiers, Magnetism and DATs? (Liam Sean Kennedy) Sony 7 pin optical POC-DA12SP DAT cable on ebay David Crosby ("MarkS Barnett") WANTED: clean version of AUD version of CSNY 8-sep-1974 Westbury, NY ("John R. Vanderpool") Re: jayhawks taping (sec1968@ezl.com) Fuji media (rob landis) mic question ("David Killion") CD-R media stuff (Memorex engendered) (Richard Levy) Save our sounds on history channel (Eliot Byron) CDR Blanks: What about Kodaks? (TheSchoolNerd@aol.com) Re: CDR Blanks: What about Kodaks? (Seth Breidbart) * ISO Rosanne Cash - DOwn From the Mountain ("Eric G. Postel \(home\)") Paul McCartney prohibited taping for sale on ebay (Eduardo Malvido) Re: CD Brands ("Gary Davis") Nomad -- Any more details? (Kevin) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Ethan Alpert" Subject: FAA docs for eco batteries? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 09:15:28 -0700 Anyone know where to find the FAA documents for eco charge batteries. Can't get to the ecocharge.com website. Thanks, -ethan ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Re: eBay tickets Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 08:41:00 -0800 I have bought tickets on eBay, and I have sold tickets on eBay. I have bought for more than ticketmaster price, and less than ticketmaster price. I have sold for more than ticketmaster price, and less than ticketmaster price. IMO, face value is irrelevant, as you cannot, in the vast majority of situatins buy tickets at face value. GDSTSTOO doesn't even sell tickets for face value. If a person doesn't want to pay the market value of tickets, don't. If that means you get nosebleeds in the back of a 20,000 seat venue, because the market value of 10th row floor seats is 5 or 10 times face value, who is gettig hurt by 1. Peple willing to pay that price, and 2. People unwilling to pay that price and sitting in nose bleeds in the back? Having sat through a couple f semesters f economics, one thing I learned is this. Even what the american dollars value is, is set by market value. It is not a fixed value. Everything sold on eBay, is sold based on the market value of the item, wether it is a hammer or a camera. Is taking the moral highroad admirable? I guess people will find out when they are sitting home NYE, missing thee concert they want to be at. IMO, there is no moral highroad when it comes to concert tickets. Bill Graham shut down both Fillmore's in 1971. His stated reason was that if he couldn't put on a good bill of entertainment for $6.50, he felt the industry was not where he wanted to be. I heard the words cme out of his mouth on WNEW, NY. He changed his mind, and sold tickets for as much as anyone else. Keith ------------------------------ From: Joe Rioux Subject: CDR media - use what works best for you Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:37:49 -0500 Everyone has different experiences with their various hardware. Unless you're sending blanks to someone and they request specific a media type, it's really quite simple - try different brands and then use what works best for you. ------------------------------ From: Liam Sean Kennedy Subject: Re: CDR media - use what works best for you Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 12:52:22 -0500 --On Thursday, December 26, 2002 12:37 PM -0500 Joe Rioux=20 wrote: > > Everyone has different experiences with their various > hardware. Unless you're sending blanks to someone and > they request specific a media type, it's really quite > simple - try different brands and then use what works > best for you. This is wise and certainly was the case with DAT also. The one caveat is=20 that you need to consider time, especially in the case of masters and such=20 (keeping SHN backups is a very good idea). Just because something burns=20 fine, doesn't mean it will last so well. With DAT this was easier to tell=20 and in some cases there is data from various magazine tests, but mostly you = have to decide subjectively on your own how well media lasts for you. Se=E1n ------------------------------ From: Dan Wellman Subject: Photocopiers, Magnetism and DATs? Reply-To: wellman@edgetolife.com Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:01:18 -0800 (PST) Hello, Is it a bad idea to photocopy a DAT? (Or even scan the DAT's label My thought was that a photocopier has a motor which generates a magnetic field that could harm the DAT contents. Can anyone please confirm or refute my logic? Thanks! -Dan __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Liam Sean Kennedy Subject: Re: Photocopiers, Magnetism and DATs? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:13:41 -0500 --On Thursday, December 26, 2002 11:01 AM -0800 Dan Wellman wrote: > Is it a bad idea to photocopy a DAT? (Or even scan > the DAT's label My thought was that a photocopier has > a motor which generates a magnetic field that could > harm the DAT contents. > > Can anyone please confirm or refute my logic? The earth generates a magnetic field... DATs require a significant incident magnetic flux to flip bits. I wouldn't recommend putting them through a MRI unit, but most magnetic fields should be fine. The light involved in such a process is probably more damaging, were it incident on the tape... its more through chemistry and mechanical friction, than electromagnetics, that DATs degrade. Sean ------------------------------ From: Subject: Sony 7 pin optical POC-DA12SP DAT cable on ebay Reply-To: kenko1@ix.netcom.com Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 11:29:01 -0800 Like new and never used. Sony 7 pin optical > miniplug POC-DA12SP cable. Does both in's and out's. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3281&item=1947573490 BWT: Howie Day 12/21/02 Bill Graham Civic Auditorium, DPA 4061 > M1. First 5 people to email me with subject heading "B&P offer Howie Day 12/21/02" get it. Winners will be notified offline. Happy holidays! ------------------------------ From: "MarkS Barnett" Subject: David Crosby Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 20:25:40 +0000 Does anyone know his taping policy? Marcus _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_eliminateviruses_3mf ------------------------------ From: "John R. Vanderpool" Subject: WANTED: clean version of AUD version of CSNY 8-sep-1974 Westbury, NY Reply-To: fish@eosdata.gsfc.nasa.gov Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 16:10:03 -0500 (EST) i'm not looking for the soundboard version of the first part (would love the SBD of the rest but don't think it is circulating) i have a version of the AUD but it has the problems noted at bottom. thanx, fish here is the setlist: ======================================================================== CSNY 8-sep-1974 Roosevelt Raceway Westbury, NY --- cd 1/3 (70:24) --- 01 love the one your with 02 wooden ships 03 immigration man 04 helpless * 05 military madness 06 johnny's garden 07 walk on 08 almost cut/my hair # set two 09 teach your children 10 only love can break your heart * 11 lee shore 12 time after time 13 southbound train --- cd 2/3 (67:13) --- 01 sleep song * 02 our house * 03 hawaiian sunrise 04 long may you run... * # ***** switches to aud source here ***** 05 ambulance blues 06 old man 07 change partners * 08 myth of sisyphus 09 you can't catch me > wordgame 10 suite: judy blue eyes * # set three 11 deja vu 12 first things first --- cd 3/3 (69:04) --- 01 don't be denied 02 black queen 03 revolution blues 04 pushed it over the end 05 pre-road downs 06 carry on 07 sugar mountain 08 ohio * = with joni mitchell on backing vocals Crosby, Stills, Nash & Young 8-sep-1974 Roosevelt Raceway Westbury, NY rate=44.1kHz scms=10 source=sbd/aud time=03:27 qc=10/9 note="almost cut/my hair" cuts in middle note="long may you run..." fades at end ============================================================== note="hawaiian sunrise" diginoise 01:10 note="deja vu" digioise from 5:40-6:30 note=small gaps (not 2 seconds TAO ones) between all tracks note=** NEED TO GET A CLEAN VERSION!! ** ============================================================== note=with joni mitchell on (kinda funky) backing vocals on many songs note=amazingly quiet crowd for a large, outdoor gig (mics on stage?) note=on 3xCDR ------------------------------ From: sec1968@ezl.com Subject: Re: jayhawks taping Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 15:51:03 -0600 You'll need to stealth the show. I "think" the band may be ok with it, but it has more to do with their label than anything else. I was talking with some folks that run the official site at the show I taped last month, and they passed that info along to me. shane My home page http://www.ezl.com/~sec1968/ sec1968@ezl.com (home) shane.calhoon@anheuser-busch.com (work) 314-765-9187 (work) ------------------------------ From: rob landis Subject: Fuji media Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 14:57:26 -0800 (PST) just thought i'd throw this in after all the recent Fuji posts...in the past, fuji were very reliable for me, but they seem to have been downhill as of late...i don't even use em anymore...perhaps quality control standards were loosened? i would get OPC fail messages or coaster burns w/ roughly 4 out of 10 discs in the last couple spindles i bought of their media. both spindles were the high-speed Fuji purchased at Rite-Aid. i was using them w/ a marantz standalone, which is very picky about media...my computer burner isn't so strict. the color-splash Fuji media was somewhat problematic for me (i bought a spindle or 2 of those previously), but the newer 48x stuff was worse. since then i've bought the unbranded TY media thru mailorder and had excellent results. my fear is that fuji has loosened quality control and let their media go to shit in the name of profits. (hurray for corporations.) i would suggest buying the straight TY media, and avoid fuji. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "David Killion" Subject: mic question Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 17:16:27 -0600 Hi all, Allright, the time has come and I'm FINALLY upgrading my mics. Here are what I've narrowed it down to: AKG c451b AKG c480b Earthworks SR77 Neumann km184 Opinions? I'd appreciate any help or advice anyone has on these mics. Also, anyone ever used or seen a Rolls phantom power supply? Thanks! David Killion _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 limited-time offer: Join now and get 3 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=dept/dialup&xAPID=42&PS=47575&PI=7324&DI=7474&SU= http://www.hotmail.msn.com/cgi-bin/getmsg&HL=1216hotmailtaglines_newmsn8ishere_3mf ------------------------------ From: Richard Levy Subject: CD-R media stuff (Memorex engendered) Reply-To: liverich@sunlink.net Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 19:25:08 -0500 http://www.cdmediaworld.com/hardware/cdrom/cd_quality.shtml Thanks for all the input from everyone. There's a great deal of diversity of input/experience. The above link, and all of your input resulted in my returning of the Memorex media. Hopefully, with good cause. Rich ------------------------------ From: Eliot Byron Subject: Save our sounds on history channel Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:30:02 -0500 Check out "Save Our Sound" Part of the Save Our History series on History Channel =20 Mickey Hart featured discussing his involvement with the Smithsonian It is about archiving different types of sound for future generations Not just music Very interesting Worth recording (pun intended) Eliot=20 ======snip from yahoo tv listings============ Save Our History =A0=A0 ======================================================================== Dec 27 12:00am=20 Series/Documentary, 60 Mins. "Save Our Sounds"=20 Preserving audio recordings of cultural history. Original Airdate: December 26, 2002. ======================================================================== Future Airings:=20 Save Our History, HISTORY Dec 27 07:00am Save Our History, HISTORY Dec 29 08:00am Save Our History, HISTORY Jan 03 07:00am Save Our History, HISTORY Jan 08 12:00pm=20 ------------------------------ From: TheSchoolNerd@aol.com Subject: CDR Blanks: What about Kodaks? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:31:14 EST Nobody has mentioned Kodak nor Sonys. Arent they supreme as well? I bought a bunch of Kodaks because lots of people here said they were great. Still true? D ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: CDR Blanks: What about Kodaks? Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 22:46:20 -0500 (EST) Kodak CDRs were good, but they got out of the business a while ago. (The remaindered CDRs were a good deal while they lasted.) Seth ------------------------------ From: "Eric G. Postel \(home\)" Subject: * ISO Rosanne Cash - DOwn From the Mountain Date: Thu, 26 Dec 2002 21:52:45 -0600 Did anybody happen to record Rosaane Cash at any of the handful of shows where she joined to tour? If so, would love to trade. Thanks, Eric ------------------------------ From: Eduardo Malvido Subject: Paul McCartney prohibited taping for sale on ebay Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 00:27:09 -0800 (PST) Hello fellow Heads This clown is trying to make profit of Paul by selling this taping on ebay, hey wanna support? please report this item to ebay, EMI, Vero whatever to stop this. ebay item mumber 933611261 Ed :-) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Re: CD Brands Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 01:21:13 -0800 My 2-cents. I try to burn copies for my friends on 2 or 3 different brands; typically, Fuji (for me), and Sony & Imation for others. The Imation discs are made in Taiwan so they seem cheaper, but who knows? Mayby TY, who makes both the Fuji and Sonys, will have a bad week, and the Imations will outlast the Sonys after all... Of course, adding Mitsui to the mix couldn't hurt at all... --Gary ------------------------------ From: Kevin Subject: Nomad -- Any more details? Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2002 10:03:25 -0500 For a while there were a few people who were reporting their successes and failures using the Nomad Jukebox 3. The last I heard there were some upcoming firmware releases that might be able to make this device a more viable solution for live recording. Does anyone have more or updated information on this? 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