DAT-heads Digest #595, Volume #6 Fri, 3 Jan 03 01:50:01 EST Contents: RE: Nomad (Mike Wren) Re: Noise Control (Klay Anderson) fs: mod sbm1 and oade 7pin>coax>coax passive cable (Blackpete@aol.com) FS: AKG 391 and other stuff. (Mtn Green) Sound Card Advice ("Dan Boardman") Re: Nomad (Seth Breidbart) Ebay, and illegal bidding ("Colin Robinson") Re: Indigo Girls (Jeff Lester) Re:way off topic, but need advice ("Ryan") re: one more comment on Pish tickets ("Chris Siegl") DAT2WAV ("skomp") still ISO JEFF BECK UK 02 (TRANEHEAD@aol.com) Nihon-jin: ISO Taper in Japan ("Eric G. Postel \(home\)") ISO : Therapy? Swedish P3 FM broadcast Dec 18th / 19th, 2002 (Andreas Ott) the Newest batch of Fuji CDRs... ("Gary Davis") Dats for B&P (Chris Bozzelli) Re: the Newest batch of Fuji CDRs... (Mark Mayhle) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mike Wren Subject: RE: Nomad Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 16:03:48 +0000 (GMT) The Nomad 3 most certainly DOES NOT resample the optical input signal. There were some issues with dropped samples with previous firmwares, but some tests this past weekend with the most recent (12/26) firmware are quite positive. MW From: Thomas Wulf Subject: RE: Nomad Reply-To: Thomas Wulf Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 11:52:26 +0100 I can't imagine any reason at all why archos or creative would build a device that can actually read spdif *including the time code*. So like all other non-pro devices the jukeboxes almost certainly will 'resample' their input. ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: Re: Noise Control Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 09:13:41 -0700 mike hooker Subject: way off topic, but need advice Asked: > i have a room in my basement where i dub, burn, record, and listen to the dats > i record live. the problem is the sound going right up thru the ceiling into > the living room ,and i get a lot of grief from the wife and kids. i need to > insulate the space between the ceiling( sheetrock) and the wood floor above. > the only way to do it is to blow in insulation with one of those machines, > there is no access to roll out fiberglass. can anyone tell me what kind of > material would best do the job. heat insulation would be a plus, there is a > space along the back wall gets a little chilly. > This is not easy and to do it correctly will be expensive. Note that basic insulation (foam, Fiberglas, etc.,) will only help BTU's and mid to high frequencies. They will do nothing for low frequencies which are probably the most offensive. To do lows correctly, you need lots of heavy, thick material (I'm talking lead-like here) to kill the transmission of the long waves. Additionally, you may need a solid false ceiling if all your amps go to "11". Remember, to sound a small hole is a big hole, so all joints, corners and penetrations must be sealed as well. You might want to poke around here: http://www.controlnoise.com/ We are dealers for their products. -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. klay@klay.com Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: Blackpete@aol.com Subject: fs: mod sbm1 and oade 7pin>coax>coax passive cable Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 11:15:51 -0500 Purchased unused 9/02, line stage and coax mod done by Doug 10/02. Includes original box, case, wallwart and manual. Includes the 7pin coax in/out passive cable Doug made out of the clipped 7 pin end, and the power cable. Paid 400 for the sbm1, 250 for the line in mod, 150 for the coax mod, including the cable, and 30 for the ecocharge xlr>dc 6v power cable. Asking 830 plus shipping, just what I paid for all this. Thanks, Marc. ------------------------------ From: Mtn Green Subject: FS: AKG 391 and other stuff. Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 08:19:05 -0800 (PST) Pair of AKG se300b bodies with the ck91 cardiod capsules. Mics are in great shape cosmetically and operationally. Original boxes and manuals includeds as well as the factory winscreens and mounts. I am the second owner of the mics which I purchased from a fellow taper in the beginning of 2002. Asking $450 shipping included. (Reason for selling-I am upgrading) Also: Sony D6 Portable 2 Channel Professional analog tape deck with 1/8" input/output, selectable tape bias, speed control, headphone, mic in(0dB and -20dB).Bought new in 98 used only for live recording. Complete fatcory service in march of 2000 to restore factory specs, hasn't been used since. Awesome workhorse deck in excellent condition. $150. Spirit Folio Notepad - 8 Channel stereo mixer, 4 XLR w/phantom power, 2 stereo channels, used in home for record playerand a couple of live SBD/AUD mixes, the ac plug is sometimes a little flakey but has never been a problem. $100. ===== __________________________________________________________ Hearing is one of the body's five senses. But listening is an art.- Frank Tyger __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Dan Boardman" Subject: Sound Card Advice Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 12:46:50 -0500 I'm sure this subject has been more then beat to death - building a new system - 1.4 AMD based - and need a sound card and am looking for suggestions - need something with spdif in/out and excellent playback - also have recently bought one of the DAT drives capable of audio extraction (anybody have an audio extraction program there not using and want to sell?) - any and all suggestions appreciated - so as not to bore everybody on list with a redundant discussion, replies can be done off list - thanks a bunch Dan Boardman ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Nomad Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 13:03:05 -0500 (EST) > I can't imagine any reason at all why archos or creative > would build a device that can actually read spdif *including the time code*. What does reading the time code have to do with not resampling? > Resampling is free, as analog in must be resampled anyway, No, analog in isn't _re_sampled, it's just sampled at the appropriate rate, end of story. > but actually locking to the external time code embedded in the spdif > signal is not so cheap to build. Locking might not be so easy, but a PLL to get the bits is necessary anyway, and just recording the bits is easier than playing with them. Seth ------------------------------ From: "Colin Robinson" Subject: Ebay, and illegal bidding Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 18:41:08 +0000 Ebay rules arent very strict, and as many have said, illegal ticket scalping and bootleg selling is rampant. One way to hurt those who are selling these items (at a premium) is to bid on their items. WHATT???? What i mean is Ebay normally has a problem with bidders who run up the price on an item (in an effort to sell their own, or just to screw around), but they do not enforce these rules on items that are illegal. SO if you bid 500 bucks for a CD bootleg or 4000 bucks for Phish tickets, you are definatly going to win the bid. You then send the seller an email telling him that what he is doing is illegal and immoral. You CC the legal team at phish, and ebay, and the matter is closed. The seller may do nothing to you, and must relist the item, only to risk the same treatment by vigilante bidders. The bidders activity may also draw (legal) attention to himself from Phish or Ebay. While this is probably not too "cool" in some peoples minds, it does satisfy those of us who trade music freely. I have paid scalpers for tickets, even for phish, but my gripe with Ebay is this: All the tix being sold now dont even exist...since the tix dont get printed till later this month, what am I bidding on? These sellers want us to pay them in full (usually) for tix that dont exist yet, even if we do assume they actually got tix in the first place. Ebay also doesnt help you too much in getting your 500 bux back from a ticket seller that never had tix to begin with. Also yesterday i checked out the phish auctions, and many sellers are pulling their tix at the last minute if they dont hit a certain price....its all bad.....anyway, thats my take on things... Colin Robinson www.phishhook.com/lists/ccrobinson site ops, Im happy to upload from my Master list _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ From: Jeff Lester Subject: Re: Indigo Girls Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 10:56:19 -0800 (PST) "Thomas Avallone" asked: >Is it official that Indigo Girls allow open taping ? Or should I still >sneak into the venue with my stealth gear. I have no first hand experience with the implementation of their policy, but they do allow taping and have an official policy: http://www.indigogirls.com/corresp/2002/2002-06-17.html -Jeff Lester ------------------------------ From: "Ryan" Subject: Re:way off topic, but need advice Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 15:08:26 -0600 This isnt off topic Mike, its not like your buying/selling or scalping Phish tickets ;^) Seriously though, I could be wrong but fiberglass battings, loose fill cellulose blow in type insulation or those polysterene panels used to make a house energy efficient will do little for your sound insulation problems, you'll stay nice and warm though while spinning those DAT's!! Plus your going to have to open up that sheetrock if your serious about getting it in there. Also consider the cost of renting the blower for the cellulose if you go that route... those big evil warehouse stores usually have free rental of the blower but only if you buy 1000+ sq. ft. worth of material probably much more than you'll need. Also if that portion of the house is already insulated, your going to want to make sure you dont over insulate any areas. I know proffesional sound blankets and baffles are sold, not sure where, but I have seen them designed to fit snug between ceiling joists and wall studs. I bet this kind of stuff isnt cheap though. But again, your going to have to open up that drywall. Perhaps someone that owns a home studio could ellaborate. Finacially speaking, your better off either getting a pair of cans to listen through or just tell the wife and kids to turn up the TV and deal with it. Think of all the money you can save for more blank tapes and cdr's! -Ryan >From: mike hooker >Subject: way off topic, but need advice >Date: Wed, 01 Jan 2003 12:36:18 -0500 hi, i have a room in my basement where i dub, burn, record, and listen to the dats i record live. the problem is the sound going right up thru the ceiling into the living room ,and i get a lot of grief from the wife and kids. i need to insulate the space between the ceiling( sheetrock) and the wood floor above. the only way to do it is to blow in insulation with one of those machines, there is no access to roll out fiberglass. can anyone tell me what kind of material would best do the job. heat insulation would be a plus, there is a space along the back wall gets a little chilly. thanks, and happy new year. ------------------------------ From: "Chris Siegl" Subject: re: one more comment on Pish tickets Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 17:41:40 -0500 Hey Keith, Who gives a shit!? And learn to use the spellchecker! From: Keith Bode Subject: one more comment on Pish tickets Date: Sat, 28 Dec 2002 08:34:53 -0800 If Phish were playing accros the street frm me, I would not buy tickets to sell or go. in fact, if they gave them away, and came to th door to do it, i'd say "no thanks". Keith ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ BWT: DAT Only B&P offer Derek Trucks Band 12/27/02 ~ Altlanta, GA ~ FOB Source: (my rig) Josephson C-603/KA-500(Hyper)>Denecke PS-1A>Zefiro Inbox>PCM-M1 to the 1st person to respond and the 1st Digestifier Peace, D you tell him there, drider. that'll shut him up, without a doubt. peace indeed, C _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ From: "skomp" Subject: DAT2WAV Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:36:22 -0600 i'll vouch for this as a working solution for tapes that DAT2WAV flakes on as well. just don't use the /rewind switch and keep trying (and a rare oppertunity to use good ol' DOSKEY) and sometimes it will indeed find a good portion of the tape and commence ripping. when it won't i'll just clone the tape (not with DAT2WAV although i'm adding a second CTD8000 drive to try this feature out ASAP) and then try the new clone and that has done the trick giving me a new tape i can rip with DAT2WAV. and these tapes that DAT2WAV doesn't like i find do indeed show high error rates or flashing sample rates when i monitor with an R300. > > From: Greg Teltschik > Subject: Re: dat2wav ?'s > Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2002 23:40:20 +0000 > > Michael wrote: > > > so, any ideas or suggestions, is it possible to write times to a tape > >after the fact? is there a way to force it to dump? or are there any vdat > >people up for swappin programs? > > I've had a similar problem one time where apparently the beginning of the > tape was blank or corrupted. If I remember, I just ran DAT2WAV several > times in a row without the -rewind option until it finally picked up the > start of the recording. Not sure if it will help in this case, but you > might give it a try. By running the program over and over, you are > effectively forcing it to move down the tape until it finds a usable signal. > > > Greg Teltschik > gteltschik@mindspring.com ------------------------------ From: TRANEHEAD@aol.com Subject: still ISO JEFF BECK UK 02 Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:52:19 EST anyone find copies of these shows yet? thanks, G. ------------------------------ From: "Eric G. Postel \(home\)" Subject: Nihon-jin: ISO Taper in Japan Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:54:41 -0600 Would happily pay the cost of a kippu, densha, etc for anybody who can tape any of the following Suede shows later this month: Tue 01/28/03 Tokyo, JPN Akasaka Blitz Wed 01/29/03 Tokyo, JPN Shibuya Ax Thu 01/30/03 Osaka, JPN On Air Osaka Please contact me off-list if interested doomo arrigatoo gozaimasu, Eric ------------------------------ From: aott15767@t-online.de (Andreas Ott) Subject: ISO : Therapy? Swedish P3 FM broadcast Dec 18th / 19th, 2002 Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 02:46:13 +0100 Hey, I=B4m looking for a recording of a recent=20 Therapy? concert FM broadcast on swedish station P3 Live on=20 December 18th/19th, 2002. Would like a DAT or CD-R copy of it . If you have recorded that broadcast and would like to trade for it, please email me and I mail you my audio list. Thanks=20 andreas aott15767@t-online.de ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: the Newest batch of Fuji CDRs... Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 17:59:13 -0800 I got my 100 pack delivered by Best Buy today. The spindles are *not* typical of TY. There's no knob on top, and the "twist" mechanism is different from any I've seen. But, the discs look identical, the blue wrapper says "Made in Japan", and CDRIDENT says the discs are made by TY, dye type 1. (same as the last batch). So hopefully they are not lying about their ID #, and these discs are still the "good" TY discs, with Fuji perhaps the last brand name they are sold under: just 10-cents/disc after rebate, with free shipping. (Note: this was a Thanksgiving week sale just delivered today... though Best Buy has made a similar offer more than once). --Gary ------------------------------ From: Chris Bozzelli Subject: Dats for B&P Date: Thu, 2 Jan 2003 18:53:47 -0800 (PST) Hi all, Below is a a list of the last of my dat collection, which is now up for B&P - many are masters. I'll trade these tapes for a variety of non-dat blank media. Top priority goes to those offering DVD-Rs (2x or 4x mitsui or taiyo yuden only) I will also accept High quality CDrs (mitsui, TY, Fuji, sony, etc.) in either case, please let me know what brand media you will be sending. For DVD-rs, since prices for each brand/speed vary, I'll work out a DAT/DVD ratio with each person. For CDRs, probably since quality media has gotten so cheap, it seams the current ratio is 5 discs/dat(but I'm flexible on that) This is intended as B&P, but I'll trade for these shows only: gabriel 12/3/02, Dylan 11/7/02, GnR 11/21/02. Shows up for Grabs: JMP 2000-03-18 1x90 sbd JMP 2000-09-03 1x60 MBHO 603 Phish 2000-07-15 2x60 schoeps 4v SCI 1996-04-14 1x90 Shure sm57 SCi 1998-05-12 1x90 SBD SCI 2000-04-04 2x60 DSBD SCI 2000-04-16 1x90 DSBD SCI 2000-04-18 1x90 DSBD SCI 2000-05-02 1x90 DSBD SCI 2000-12-30 2x60 TLM 170 SCI 2001-02-28 1x90 B&K 4011 SCI 2001-07-12 1x90 TLM 170 SCI 2001-07-14 1x90 TLM 170 SCI 2002-04-12 2x60 SKM 150 Ray's music exchange 2001-09-13 1x60 TLM 170 John scoffield 2000-09-29 1x60 MBHO 603 Bruce hornsby 2000-02-26 1x60 AKG 460 Bruce hornsby 1999-08-12 1x90 AKG 480 Bruce hornsby 1998-11-06 1x60 sbd Bruce hornsby 2001-07-01 1x90 schoeps 41 with scoffield's set from same day Soulive 2000-12-02 1x60 schoeps 6/41 DJ logic 2000-12-02 1x60 schoeps 6/41 Lake trout 2001-02-04 1x60 skm150 The Flow 2001-06-13 1x60 TLM 170 Dr Didg 2001-06-13 1x60 TLM 170 Bela fleck and sandip burman 2000-10-26 MBHO 603 The big wu 2001-07-12 1x60 TLM 170 The big wu 2001-07-13 1x60 TLM 170 Les claypool 2001-07-14 1x60 TLM 170 warren haynes 2001-07-15 1x60 TLM 170 MMW 2001-05-19 2x60 TLM 170 MMW 1995-10-14 sbd slumber party/outrageous cherry 2001-12-31 (openers for YLT) 1x90 TLM 170 Keller williams 2001-05-07 1x90 sbd The slip 2001-04-06 1x90 TLM 170 The following tapes are flawed in some way, so if something appeals to you, ask, we'll work something out DBB 2000-10-06 1x90 MBHO 603 -last song before encore cuts out (battery died) - encore is there, only tape from the show JMP 2001-08-07 2x60 TLM 170 some dropouts (bad preamp battery) again, only tape from the show phish 2000-07-14 (1x90) schoeps mk4 - last song of encore (guyute) cuts out about 4 min early (tape ends) __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: Re: the Newest batch of Fuji CDRs... Date: Fri, 3 Jan 2003 00:27:39 -0600 (CST) On Thu, 2 Jan 2003, Gary Davis wrote: > I got my 100 pack delivered by Best Buy today. > The spindles are *not* typical of TY. There's no knob on top, and the > "twist" mechanism is different from any I've seen. I've had several packages of these, even intermixed on the shelf at Best Buy with the old knob style, and the discs seem to be identical to me too. -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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