DAT-heads Digest #612, Volume #6 Sat, 18 Jan 03 22:50:01 EST Contents: RE: LA venue security (Keith Bode) Re: DAT-heads Digest #611 (Dennis Bathory-Kitsz) ISO Rollins band WM3 Benefit shows] (Edward Davis) [Tapers-Filmers] ISO Rollins band WM3 Benefit shows (Edward Davis) Massive Attack on video? (kindtaper@aol.com) To people trading with peaceful_mind@yahoo.com (Edward Davis) re: NRBQ Taping Policy? ("Mark McKay") I.S.O. DAT Recorder (Mexminute@aol.com) RE: LA venue security (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?L_Se=E1n_Kennedy?=) Upgrading mics ("Bas Ruesink") Re: are plextors old news? ("Slipkid") Re: LA venue security (Keith Bode) FS: Sony D3 with everything.... ("Richmond Mike") FS:SonyVaioLaptop-for recording ("john crouch") looking for server tester ("Dan Babcock") Looking For Grateful Dead CDR Trades ("Mark Paterick") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Keith Bode Subject: RE: LA venue security Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 20:13:18 -0800 > And keep the morality email regarding stealthing shows to > yourselves ;) I get it, only being a lock-step is acceptable. Not being indoctrinated is grounds for revocation of first ammendment rights, yet being indoctrinated removes the need for first ammendment rights. ------------------------------ From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #611 Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:16:00 -0500 > From: "Desmond Curran" > Subject: OKTAVA Mk012 microphones > Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2003 08:41:45 -0800 > > Anyone ever use OKTAVA Mk012's or heard tapes made with them? I've heard > people compare then to to km184's.... The seem to be quite inexpensive > comaratively. Just wondering if they would be worth trying out. Spectacular for the price -- quiet, even, not harsh at all. I record mostly acoustic/classical, so I don't know how they are for amplified concerts. They're very hot, so the preamps can go down and the 10dB attenuators can go on! Oh, and here's a part of $5 shockmounts for them you can build: http://maltedmedia.com/people/bathory/shock.html Dennis http://maltedmedia.com/ ------------------------------ From: Edward Davis Subject: ISO Rollins band WM3 Benefit shows] Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 22:44:05 -0800 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ==============1701D66FE659BE2697ED98B5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi, I am searching for any tapes from the rollins band WM3 benefit shows where they played Black Flag songs. If you taped one of these shows or know of someone who did please let me know. I have lots to trade. Don't trust my list I have tons of masters not yet updated. Thanks, Ed -- "You're not going crazy Arthur. You're going sane in a crazy world." The Tick Want To Trade DATs? Come to my sight at: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/5771 ==============1701D66FE659BE2697ED98B5 Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ------------------------------ From: Edward Davis Subject: [Tapers-Filmers] ISO Rollins band WM3 Benefit shows Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 21:59:24 -0800 Hi, I am searching for any tapes from the rollins band WM3 benefit shows where they played Black Flag songs. If you taped one of these shows or know of someone who did please let me know. I have lots to trade. Don't trust my list I have tons of masters not yet updated. Thanks, Ed -- "You're not going crazy Arthur. You're going sane in a crazy world." The Tick Want To Trade DATs? Come to my sight at: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/5771 <---> Tapers and Filmers ONLY List <---> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ==============1701D66FE659BE2697ED98B5== ------------------------------ From: kindtaper@aol.com Subject: Massive Attack on video? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 01:44:07 -0500 Anyone have any live Massive Attack footage on video? Please contact me if you do and will trade. I have an MA master and other stuff to trade. Thanks, Wes Kindtaper@aol.com ------------------------------ From: Edward Davis Subject: To people trading with peaceful_mind@yahoo.com Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 23:04:30 -0800 Hi, I am making this post in regards to Andy Hahn at the above e-mail. His computer crashed and he lost all trade information. Therefore if you have a trade set up with him please just hang tight. he should be up and running in a few weeks and he will post a message here and happily honor all trades. If you need to get a hold of him right now drop me an e-mail and I'll get the message to him Thanks, Ed -- "You're not going crazy Arthur. You're going sane in a crazy world." The Tick Want To Trade DATs? Come to my sight at: www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Venue/5771 ------------------------------ From: "Mark McKay" Subject: re: NRBQ Taping Policy? Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 07:29:05 -0500 NRBQ is about as anti-taping as you can get. We have a venue here in Rhode Island, Chan's, where the owner video and audio records every show that happens there. Except NRBQ that is...they won't even let him do it. They are also the only band that he has to put "no taping allowed" signs on the outside door. So if you want 'em, stealth is the only way. And as someone on the last digest so eloquently put it, please keep any anti-stealthing morality jive posts/emails to yourselves. We've read it all before. Mark >From: "Desmond Curran" >Subject: NRBQ Taping Policy? >Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2003 07:46:16 -0800 > >Anyone know what the Taping policy of NRBQ is? > >Thanks, > >Des ------------------------------ From: Mexminute@aol.com Subject: I.S.O. DAT Recorder Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 08:19:45 -0500 Is anyone out there in the position of selling their previously owned DAT recorder? I am looking for either a Panasonic SV-3800, or preferably a Sony PCM-R500. If you or anyone you know is looking to sell their unit....and it is in excellent shape, please e-mail me. Thanks, Mitchell ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?L_Se=E1n_Kennedy?= Subject: RE: LA venue security Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 09:15:12 -0500 --On Friday, January 17, 2003 8:13 PM -0800 Keith Bode wrote: >> And keep the morality email regarding stealthing shows to >> yourselves ;) > > I get it, only being a lock-step is acceptable. Not being > indoctrinated is grounds for revocation of first ammendment > rights, yet being indoctrinated removes the need for first > ammendment rights. Ok, here I will exercise my first amendment rights. Stop whining. There are a lot of people who seem to contribute to DAT-heads, but there seem to be a few names who like to have diss other folks and then whine when others disagree with them. (Keith does contribute and usually its the response to such people that is even more unbalanced, but I do see this post as whiny.) I have gone to great lengths to allow open discussion on DAT-heads over the years, to not restrict what people can trade... not to moderate. And I resist requests to "throw this guy off the list." If you have an opinion state it and be done. However, your message does not say anything about stealth taping -- if you had an opinion and stated it, I would have supported that. If you had stuck to it to the death, countering everyone with a different opinion, I would tell you to accept that others differ in opinion. Having an opinion is fine and using your right to express it is fine also, but there is an obligation in that case to understand someone else will have their own opinion and maybe different from yours. The particular topic referenced has been "fought to the death" before and it is reasonable to ask people to hold their opinion. But its also reasonable to still express yours... and we'll say "been there, done that, can we move on." Sean ------------------------------ From: "Bas Ruesink" Subject: Upgrading mics Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 16:48:26 +0100 hi, considering upgrading my mics. I am currently using OKM II Rock Studios (Soundman). They work nice, but are very fragile and the A3-adapter (batterybox) is not very stable either. So, looking around for other stealth mics, preferrably Cardiods. Any suggestions? Bas _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM: Try the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "Slipkid" Subject: Re: are plextors old news? Reply-To: "Slipkid" Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:09:03 -0500 jamie wrote: > I know back in the day, plextor was the only manufacturer that put out > relaible drives. but over the last few years, as cd burning became more > mainstream, weve all been using ide drives with lots of success. I've jsut > come across this article, which is interesting to say the least. I dont > see a plex anywhere in the top 10... > http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=daeerrortest.php3 that page specifically tests how a drive reacts to an extreme error example, not really indicative of what you're going to encounter day in/day out in your usage they even say this: "At the moment there are no drives which can pass the test with a perfect score. In fact the test is so difficult that most drives get a 0.0 score." if you look at a more "real world" DAE oriented test, check out this link: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=daetest.html Results: 1 Plextor UltraPlex 40Max SCSI 2 Plextor UltraPlex SCSI 3 Toshiba XM6401TA SCSI 4 Asus CD-S400 5 AOpen CD-948E 6 Ricoh MP7040A 7 Hitachi GD2500 DVD 8 Yamaha CRW4416S SCSI 9 Sony CDU701 10 Toshiba SD-M1202 DVD and in the specific result area of the plextor 40 max they say: "A perfect score which shows the superior DAE quality of the Plextor drives." also you might want to check out this general "speed" link, which also shows "quality" ratings of many drives, listed by top speed first: http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=daeresults.php3 but be SURE to read the detail link associated with each drive!! for example, the "highest" rated drive in the list has some serious problems which does not make it very attractive!! "This drive has serious troubles reading cheap CD-R(W) discs, mode 2 data discs and scratched/ dirty discs. However it is very fast for reading pressed discs which are in perfect shape." all of the above stuff refers to DAE (digital audio extraction) if you're looking for info on burners, be sure to check their writing link as well http://www.cdspeed2000.com/go.php3?link=cdwriteresults.php3 but of course, it pays to do research at multiple sites, get all the info you can b4 deciding what to buy, evaluate what is important for you (hopefully good DAE vs. super speedy etc, reputation, price, etc), then make your decision these links will keep you busy for awhile if you want to get info on various drives: http://www.cdrlabs.com/reviews/ http://www.cdrfaq.org/faq05.html#S5-1 http://www.cdrinfo.com/ http://www.cdfreaks.com/cdfreaksr0x.php3?Action=Frontpage&ID=33 http://www.cdrwcentral.com/modules.php?name=Reviews i still think that plextors are among the best drives $ can buy for audio purposes, and they make both IDE and SCSI drives (phasing out their SCSI drives unfortunately i think?) - jon - ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Re: LA venue security Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 10:52:07 -0800 LSK, You're right about the beating to death stealthing. IMO, you're wrong to tell people not to address an artists rights moral issue you bring up. I didn't even mention anything to do with your activity. As you are, I'm sick of discussing it. In the future, I would, and I'm sure other would also, prefer personal attacks be kept off list. I am quite adept and handling anger, profanity, and degrdation in private e-mails. Keith L Seán Kennedy wrote: > > --On Friday, January 17, 2003 8:13 PM -0800 Keith Bode > wrote: > > >> And keep the morality email regarding stealthing shows to > >> yourselves ;) > > > > I get it, only being a lock-step is acceptable. Not being > > indoctrinated is grounds for revocation of first ammendment > > rights, yet being indoctrinated removes the need for first > > ammendment rights. > > Ok, here I will exercise my first amendment rights. > > Stop whining. There are a lot of people who seem to contribute to > DAT-heads, but there seem to be a few names who like to have diss > other folks and then whine when others disagree with them. (Keith > does contribute and usually its the response to such people that > is even more unbalanced, but I do see this post as whiny.) > > I have gone to great lengths to allow open discussion on DAT-heads > over the years, to not restrict what people can trade... not to > moderate. And I resist requests to "throw this guy off the list." > > If you have an opinion state it and be done. However, your message > does not say anything about stealth taping -- if you had an opinion > and stated it, I would have supported that. If you had stuck to > it to the death, countering everyone with a different opinion, I > would tell you to accept that others differ in opinion. Having > an opinion is fine and using your right to express it is fine > also, but there is an obligation in that case to understand > someone else will have their own opinion and maybe different > from yours. > > The particular topic referenced has been "fought to the death" > before and it is reasonable to ask people to hold their opinion. > But its also reasonable to still express yours... and we'll say > "been there, done that, can we move on." > > Sean -- If you love animals, check out www.wotwild.com. Contact me for sale through 2/10/03. Your kid's will love them. ------------------------------ From: "Richmond Mike" Subject: FS: Sony D3 with everything.... Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 13:55:22 -0500 Hey now,, It's time for me to make some headway into laptop recording so my trusty old D3 is on the block. It's a good deck, and I do mean trusty. I bought it from a production company here in richmond in June'01 that estimated about 100 hours of use at the most. I sent it to pro-dig in the fall of that year for a transport lube/inspection. got good feedback on the condition of the heads and internal mechanisms. Since then it has seen about 30-40 shows. So here's what's up, the D3 w/AC adapter Oade active 7 pin coax I/O Sony 7 pin optical I/O battery pack good for 25 hours 1 meter Neutrik coax cable Case to carry it all in, great for shows, outdoor too. for $700 or best offer -Mike _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ From: "john crouch" Subject: FS:SonyVaioLaptop-for recording Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 12:48:42 -0800 I have my Sony Vaio up on ebay right now, it is set up for recording and will be sold like that, all of the VAIO bells and extra whistles have been taken off of it, the drive has been partitioned for recording with 9 gigs open on the recording partition, it has windows 2000 on it, wavelab 4.0 and soundforge 6.0, I used it for all of the NYE Phish run and it was great, reserve is at $600, here's the link, Sony VAIO 600mhz 12gig PCG-SR7K - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31557&item=2087880676&rd=1 Thanks for the space, JOHN BWT: PHISH Hampton 1-2-03 cmc6/mk41v>v3>miniMe>SonyVAIOPCG-SR7K>Wavelab4.0>16/44.1>Cd _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "Dan Babcock" Subject: looking for server tester Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 18:57:50 -0600 Does Someone with high speed internet want to download a show from my ftp? I have some of the Other Ones fall tour shows up, as well as rusted root 99-3-15. All in shn format. ------------------------------ From: "Mark Paterick" Subject: Looking For Grateful Dead CDR Trades Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2003 20:25:24 -0500 I am looking for some Dead Cdr trades I have lots to trade. Email me and I will send my list ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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