DAT-heads Digest #619, Volume #6 Sat, 25 Jan 03 09:50:01 EST Contents: I.S.O. Landmine Date & Venue (Mexminute@aol.com) Taper movie ("Wolf Vogel") Steel Pulse taping policy? (Colin Liston) I.S.O. - Pretenders 9/4/81 (Mexminute@aol.com) Ever taped at tribeca rock club/tribeca blues in NYC? ("Hevron, John-Ryan") Mini Me Question (ZepMan@aol.com) Re: DAT-heads Digest #618 - DAT Rolling Stones From MSG (Barry Welch) Wallflowers and Matchbox 20 Taping policy (BlackCrowes@gmx.net) DAT Rolling Stones From MSG ("DRider") ISO: Used DAT Recorder for stealthing... ("MARIA AGUIRRE") ISO Ryan Adams/Stones ("Deviant") soundproofing a room (mike hooker) extra to trade ("alf") Re: VHS - Stones (Tom McCreadie) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Mexminute@aol.com Subject: I.S.O. Landmine Date & Venue Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:28:50 -0500 Might anyone have the venue and date for the Landmine Benefit performed in Santa Barbara, Cailf.? Thanks, Mitchell ------------------------------ From: "Wolf Vogel" Subject: Taper movie Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 09:52:08 -0600 If you have not seen it: DIVA is a French movie in which a taper is the central character. Editorial Reviews Amazon.com Modern noir meets high opera in the French suspense flick Diva. Delivery boy Jules has an opera obsession. He spends his small disposable income on sophisticated sound equipment and manages to bootleg a live performance of his favorite diva, Cynthia Hawkins (played by real-life opera singer Wilhelmina Wiggins Fernandez). But Jules is spotted making the recording by shady investors who want the tape. As if that weren't enough, a second cassette, filled with enough evidence to topple an international drug and prostitution ring, makes its way into Jules's mailbag. Writer-director Jean-Jacques Beineix does a terrific job of adapting Delacorta's pulpy novel for the screen, keeping all the excitement while adding a layer of depth. A movie to make even a dedicated opera hater appreciate a perfectly sung aria, Diva has enormous loft apartments, thugs galore, gorgeous visuals, and a corker of a chase scene. Watch it--and watch your back. --Ali Davis Enjoy! ------------------------------ From: Colin Liston Subject: Steel Pulse taping policy? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 10:56:44 -0500 (EST) Does any one know what Steel Pulse's taping policy is? And Willie Nelson will be starting a small club tour this spring, does anyone know what Willie's taping policy is? thanks colin www.cs.utk.edu/~cliston ------------------------------ From: Mexminute@aol.com Subject: I.S.O. - Pretenders 9/4/81 Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:17:53 -0500 A friend gave me a copy of The Pretenders from Santa Monica Civic Auditorium from 9/4/81. This is a kick ass show except for the fact that there are multiple dropouts from track 13 and on. Might anyone have a clean copy on cdr or dat. Lots to trade. Thanks, Mitchell ------------------------------ From: "Hevron, John-Ryan" Subject: Ever taped at tribeca rock club/tribeca blues in NYC? Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:11:38 -0500 I'm going to be taping something there soon and would love to do a soundboard/mic matrix. I've been told that if I do an audience mic (not an on-stage mic- too far away from the soundboard) and mix it with the soundboard via my mixer, the delay isn't enough to cause much of a problem. Then again, that's just what I've been told. Drop me a line if you have any experience with this. J-R: thesameage@aol.com ------------------------------ From: ZepMan@aol.com Subject: Mini Me Question Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 12:27:49 -0500 Does anyone know the size of the Allen wrench needed to open up the Mini me. thanks Marc ------------------------------ From: Barry Welch Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #618 - DAT Rolling Stones From MSG Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 11:42:10 -0600 At 9:50 AM -0500 1/24/03, Digestifier wrote: >From: Comnaround@aol.com >Subject: DAT Rolling Stones From MSG >Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:36:30 EST > >"Axl Slash" Wrote: > "Those with SCMS free DAT Decks should have been able to get an exact >Digital >copy of the show." > > I tried on 3 different SCMS free DAT decks and could not get a digital feed >out of my Sony DirecTV receiver. When I switched channels I could get a >digital feed. I have not tried recording any of the rebroadcasts from HBO on >DirecTV. Anyone have any luck with that? > I was able to get a digital signal but only out of my Replay TV unit which >was being fed via the analog outs on my DirecTV box. I know it would have >been better to have just run analog out of the DirecTV box into a converter >and then to DAT but someone had brought over a bunch of brownies about 45 >minutes prior and the show was starting. Interesting thing was that I could >not pass the digital signal coming out of the Replay TV unit to pro or SCMS >free decks. > And while we are on the subject of HIFIs I prefer some of my older VHS HIFI >masters over most my early DAT masters. I always felt like a tool though >lugging my HIFI deck into a bar or club. Whenever a girl would look at me >funny I would usually respond with something like how VHS HIFI was superior >to cassette, cheaper than DAT and that this HIFI deck was great because I >could REALLY set levels with it and most HIFI decks could not. After chicks >heard that then they were like "wow you ARE a stud, want to come over after >the show?" > >Mark Lynn yeah mark, I feel the same way. I still have a lot of music on my old Sony hi-fi PCM BetaMax... Only prob is I'd hate to think about storing a couple of thousand of them or VHS. I just picked up a nice GE Hi-Fi VHS deck with adjustable recording level controls, for $12.95 @ Goodwill when one of my Mitishubin decks croaked. .... And their kinda hefty to mail.... ------------------------------ From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net Subject: Wallflowers and Matchbox 20 Taping policy Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 19:39:27 +0100 (MET) Hi there, these two bands come my way in spring but I haven't found anything positive or negative towards their attitude about taping their performances or personal, nonprofit reasons.. Does anyone have a clue here or is there an official word?? Best from Munich, Germany Karsten -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen! ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: DAT Rolling Stones From MSG Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 14:38:22 -0500 I did the rebroadcast last night and it sounds great! I ran the analog OUT of my HiFi VCR to the unbalanced IN on my PCM-R500 and used the Super Bit Mapper @ 48k. The margin is .05 I originally planned on putting it on a 90m, but I grabbed the wrong tape in a hurry. So I have it on 2 60m tapes, which will be better for archiving anyway..... The first tape has about 1 hour on it and goes to the end of Tumblin Dice. The tape switch occurs right after that w/ the band intros starting tape 2. This would be the right spot for disc one to end, so it's no biggie and nothing was lost....... Anyone interested can contact me. I would love to find someone that would like to convert the DAT to disc...... Peace, D ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: Comnaround@aol.com Subject: DAT Rolling Stones From MSG Date: Thu, 23 Jan 2003 13:36:30 EST "Axl Slash" Wrote: "Those with SCMS free DAT Decks should have been able to get an exact Digital copy of the show." I tried on 3 different SCMS free DAT decks and could not get a digital feed out of my Sony DirecTV receiver. When I switched channels I could get a digital feed. I have not tried recording any of the rebroadcasts from HBO on DirecTV. Anyone have any luck with that? I was able to get a digital signal but only out of my Replay TV unit which was being fed via the analog outs on my DirecTV box. I know it would have been better to have just run analog out of the DirecTV box into a converter and then to DAT but someone had brought over a bunch of brownies about 45 minutes prior and the show was starting. Interesting thing was that I could not pass the digital signal coming out of the Replay TV unit to pro or SCMS free decks. And while we are on the subject of HIFIs I prefer some of my older VHS HIFI masters over most my early DAT masters. I always felt like a tool though lugging my HIFI deck into a bar or club. Whenever a girl would look at me funny I would usually respond with something like how VHS HIFI was superior to cassette, cheaper than DAT and that this HIFI deck was great because I could REALLY set levels with it and most HIFI decks could not. After chicks heard that then they were like "wow you ARE a stud, want to come over after the show?" Mark Lynn "If I could talk then I wouldn't have to drink." -Jerry Joseph ------------------------------ From: "MARIA AGUIRRE" Subject: ISO: Used DAT Recorder for stealthing... Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 17:24:26 -0500 Hello, I have been collecting boots for a long time, and would like to finally get into actually recording them... so, I am looking to buy a used DAT recording deck for stealth recording (presumably a Sony one)...Im looking to spend around 300-400 for deck...I am looking for some mics as well. Please email me if you have any for sale. Thanks!! ~Maria toriphilemaria@charter.net ------------------------------ From: "Deviant" Subject: ISO Ryan Adams/Stones Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 18:23:43 -0600 Hi, Anyone tape Ryan Adams at any of the recent Stones shows? I'd sure like to trade if so... deviant@mn.rr.com Joel ------------------------------ From: mike hooker Subject: soundproofing a room Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 22:10:30 -0500 hi, a while ago i posted, asking if anyone had advice on soundproofing my basement room where i transfer and listen to the dats i record live. i got much larger response than i expected. lots of people inquiring , saying the are in the same boat, others offering advice from the practical ,to the more technical, to some very expensive ideas. cheap bastard that i am, i went with a often offered solution, egg cartons on the ceiling. for two weeks, i collected 1 ft square commercial egg flats and attached them to the ceiling, covering the entire ceiling except for the light fixture. sad to say, it was a total failure with no perceptable decrease in the sound up in my living room above. i think a big problem is the room is so integral to the rest of the house, and the sound goes into the wall joists, then up . i'm not prepared to cover the entire wall area or build false walls, or anything like that. i feel ripping the cartons down, as they kill the light in the room, but i'll wait. i may try to cover the cartons with foam as a last ditch effort, if the foam isnt to costly. there is a place on delancey st in NYC sells the stuff. otherwise, i'll have to learn to enjoy headphones. i bought a pair of sennheiser 590's , pretty nice. thanks to all who helped! please see my music trading page: New URL http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html being its AOL, its not always up. try it a few times, or ask me for a text list. thanks have fun, mike hooker ------------------------------ From: "alf" Subject: extra to trade Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 08:53:37 +0100 Have on my HD for a quick trade: (Fostex D5>audiophile2496>Soundforge>Cdarchitect) Willie Nelson 9/1/2002 Red Rocks, Morrison, CO. 89m. DAUD Josephson C-603/KA-500 (hyper)>Denecke PS-1A 2 cd JOE ZAWINUL's SYNDICATE 11/10/2002 Moments, Bremen, Germany 112m. Sat-Fm A/A+ 2 cd Paul Weller 11/7/2002 Großen Freiheit 36, Hamburg, Germany 54m. Sat-Fm A/A+ 1 cd ZAKK WYLDE 1/28/97 Liquid Room, Shinjuku, Tokyo, Japan 106m DAUD A-/A DSM6S 2 cd looking for new year's eve 12/31/2002 (HQ recordings only) of OTHER ONES, EKOOSTIK HOOKAH, JIM MILLER BAND, PERCY HILL, SLIP and similar. or also blues rock not widely circulating Alf ------------------------------ From: Tom McCreadie Subject: Re: VHS - Stones Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:06:11 +0100 Scott Goodwin back in #616: >The specs of HiFi VHS are almost identical to DAT with regard to >signal-to-noise ratio and dynamic range, as well as frequency response. >Just 'cos HiFi VHS writes non-digital data don't mean it's crap. "s/n > 80dB and ruler flat 20- 20kHz. What more does one need?". Yes the paper specs do look seductive but those machines had their shortcomings. Firstly, the limitations of the rotating head assembly gives unavoidable hum and buzz noise about 50dB down, so the manufacturers had to resort to dbx-like compression-expansion of the music to meet the 80dB target. These companders gave the attendant artefacts - breathing, pumping, disturbing unexpected sounds etc. - with matters not being helped by them being low-price, in-house designs. For more info check out: Secondly, the hi-fi videocassettes had issues with interchangeability...tending to play back poorly on a different deck. But there again so does DAT . Tom ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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