DAT-heads Digest #620
Contents:
Taj Mahal tour - possible trades? ("TD")
Re: Taper Movie ("James G. Lykos")
Jorma & Blue Country set times? ("James G. Lykos")
Los Lobos ("S Randolph")
Some extras for Newbie B+P (Keith Fahlgren)
VHS Vs. DAT / Analog Vs. Digital ("J R")
VHS (Scott Goodwin)
Been awhile & looking for BOC others (marc pfisterer)
slightly OT: Diva movie (GaoBest@aol.com)
Sony M1 vs. D100 ("Dark Star Enterprises")
Stones MSG digital ("Steven Weld")
FS: DAP1 (Chris Bozzelli)
Re: VHS Vs. DAT / Analog Vs. Digital (Todd Romero)
drums/space (fmjqm@aol.com)
mikes #1 structure (mark j horvath)
FT: Johnny Marr & The Healers - Boston (Brian Gemborys)
From: "TD" <adestefanis@wi.rr.com>
Subject: Taj Mahal tour - possible trades?
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:23:35 -0600
I was able to tape the Taj show from 1/24/03 Milwaukee, turned out very
nice.... Looking to trade for other Taj, preferably from this tour.
Email in interested. Thanks.
From: "James G. Lykos" <jlykos@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Re: Taper Movie
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:04:10 -0500
Hello,
Yes, Diva is a fantastic movie; one of my favorites. I read that they
are in discussions to make an "updated" American version starring Ja Rule.
Who would ever want to tape Ja Rule?
--Jamie Lykos
jlykos@nc.rr.com
From: "James G. Lykos" <jlykos@nc.rr.com>
Subject: Jorma & Blue Country set times?
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:05:33 -0500
Hello,
I am planning on taping Jorma Kaukonen & Blue Country this week and am
wondering how long the set time is. Also, is he playing solo or with a
group? If a group, anybody know who is in it for the tour? Any help is
much appreciated.
--Jamie Lykos
jlykos@nc.rr.com
From: "S Randolph" <srandolph@core.com>
Subject: Los Lobos
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:44:51 -0500
What is there taping policy?
Do they allow sdbd's?
Thanks,
Steve Randolph
From: Keith Fahlgren <kfahlgren@wooster.edu>
Subject: Some extras for Newbie B+P
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:50:07 -0500
Hi all,
I recently got some DATs that I don't really want/need and wanted to pass
them along to another newbie might have greater utility from them. It's a
batch of four (I can't vouch for the quality as I have not listened to
them):
-Guns N' Roses Osaka 8/18/2002 "D100+Sanken COS-11 MasterDAT>DAT>DAT" 60m
-Oasis Tokyo 9/15/1994 60m
-Oasis Tokyo 9/16/1994 60m
-Richie Hawtin + Kenny Larkin [Hawtin: Barcelona 6/19/1999] [Larkin: San
Franscico 11/18/1999] both: "Real G2 64.7kbps>Mac G3 lineout > DAR100 90m
I'd like four (4) 60m Maxells or Sonys.
Thanks and happy DATing,
Keith
From: "J R" <ja5667@hotmail.com>
Subject: VHS Vs. DAT / Analog Vs. Digital
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 11:53:51 -0500
Please, no lengthy debates of how some people prefer their humming,
distorted, and lower quality sounding HiFi VHS tapes over today's superior
DATs and CDRs. You are probably the same as those who say vinyl records
sound "oh so way better than CDs. Their so warm and vibrant sounding" Yeah
with all kinds of defects like scratches, pops and clicks that detract from
the real sound and the enjoyment of the music.
Those who prefer records over CDs grew up with listening to the pops and
clicks and when they weren't there on CD, their songs just didn't sound the
same anymore. CDs are made to make the music sound as it always should
have. So you can hear like you were in the studio with the artist, without
pops and clicks and humming noise.
And as far as HiFi VCRs go, well they are on the way out. Just look at how
many new and different kinds of home DVD recorders have hit the market in
the past year. There are at least 5 times as many as the year before and at
cheaper prices too. Plus DVDRs are also coming down in price. You know
why, because Digital recording is superior to the analog recording devices.
Even the movie theaters in the big city's are going with digital projectors
instead of film. Give it up vinyl and HiFi fans, you're fighting a losing
battle. You won't change the minds of those growing up in the digital age,
things are just too clear and perfect.
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From: Scott Goodwin <coryphaena_29403@juno.com>
Subject: VHS
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 12:09:50 -0500
Uhh...what exactly do you think DAT machines use for heads?
******************
>From: Tom McCreadie <mccreadi@xs4all.nl>
>Subject: Re: VHS - Stones
>Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 09:06:11 +0100
<snip>
>Yes the paper specs do look seductive but those machines had their
shortcomings.
>Firstly, the limitations of the rotating head assembly gives unavoidable
>hum and buzz noise about 50dB down
From: marc pfisterer <easywind2@yahoo.com>
Subject: Been awhile & looking for BOC others
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 10:33:01 -0800 (PST)
It has been awhile since I posted here. I just sold my
dat decks as I don't tape anymore and I will be
concentrating on trading CDR's now. My first question
is there another list that caters to CDR trading only?
If I don't have a deck anymore is it ok to post here
looking for CDR trades? If it is, I am looking for
some Blue Oyster Cult trades and other bands that I am
looking for include Rush, Plastilina Mosh, Steely Dan,
Aerosmith, Budgie, X, The Donna's and Black Sabbath.
Email for list. Thanks. Marc
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From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: slightly OT: Diva movie
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 13:50:48 EST
Just thought I should mention that the "Diva" movie is based on a pulp smut
novel (published in the '70s or '60s!), in which the taper stealths by
placing Schoeps mics in a violin case (and having perfect taping
position/location) for stealthing that opera singer. Yes - Schoeps! Schoeps
mics are actually name-dropped. Most of the novel involves sultry romance,
but just seeing the Schoeps brand mentioned made it worth the read. Alas, I
can't remember the actual title, but I'm sure Diva-heads can advise...
The information in the book regarding the taping techniques could be put into
an FAQ, it's so brilliant!
cheers
Mike
In a message dated 1/25/03 6:56:44 AM, DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net
writes:
<<
If you have not seen it:
DIVA is a French movie in which a taper is the central character.
Editorial Reviews
Amazon.com
Modern noir meets high opera in the French suspense flick Diva. Delivery
boy Jules has an opera obsession. He spends his small disposable income
on sophisticated sound equipment and manages to bootleg a live
performance of his favorite diva, Cynthia Hawkins (played by real-life
opera singer Wilhelmina Wiggins Fernandez). But Jules is spotted making
the recording by shady investors who want the tape. As if that weren't
enough, a second cassette, filled with enough evidence to topple an
international drug and prostitution ring, makes its way into Jules's
mailbag. Writer-director Jean-Jacques Beineix does a terrific job of
adapting Delacorta's pulpy novel for the screen, keeping all the
excitement while adding a layer of depth. A movie to make even a
dedicated opera hater appreciate a perfectly sung aria, Diva has
enormous loft apartments, thugs galore, gorgeous visuals, and a corker
of a chase scene. Watch it--and watch your back. --Ali Davis
Enjoy!
>>
From: "Dark Star Enterprises" <jtsalike@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Sony M1 vs. D100
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:29:36 -0500
I am looking at getting another deck.....I know the main difference between
the M1 and D100 is the use of SCMS but are there any other differences I
should be made aware of?
Thanks for the help
From: "Steven Weld" <sunboy@twcny.rr.com>
Subject: Stones MSG digital
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 14:53:24 -0500
Couldn't help but notice the discussion on the Stones MSG and most not being
able to get a straight digital recording from the HBO broadcast. I did not
have any problem getting a digital feed with my system. My receiver was set
to PCM out prior. Others noted that it was in Dolby Surround and this was a
problem for many.
DirecTV/ Hughes GCEBO receiver>Optical digital out @ 48kHz>through a Fostex
D-5 DAT in monitor mode to pass AES/EBU>Digital Audio Labs Card Deluxe>Cool
Edit Pro2(resample at 999,highest rate to 44.1 kHz)>CD Wave>CDRWIN>Plextor
PX-W4012TA @ 4x >CDR
I did not save a copy of the original 48kHz file unfortunately. I assumed
there would be thousands of digi copies out there so I didn't think it was a
big deal.
I do still have the the whole wave @ 44.1 pre CD Wave saved in my computer.
I could go back out of my computer AES/EBU>DAT with that if necessary.
I am going on vacation on the 31st but thought it would be good idea for me
to share another digital copy the list. I would be willing to trade this for
other HIGH QUALITY shows from this tour, or any "A" recordings from any
period ONLY. I have the Chicago Aragon. I have the Philly Tower but it is
TAO, could use a DAO of that. I can do DAT or CDR on pro equipment.
I would also do a couple B&P's to people who would do likewise in return.
I will try to answer all replies but if I get overwhelmed and you don't hear
from me you didn't make it. Remember I'll be on vaca 1st week of Feb. so it
might take a little while. I would like to thank everyone for their input on
this topic.
Peace, Steve Weld
From: Chris Bozzelli <c_bozzelli@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: DAP1
Date: Sat, 25 Jan 2003 18:16:14 -0800 (PST)
Hey folks,
Time part with my last deck. Just doesn't get used
anymore. Here's the details:
-Tascam DAP1, in flawless working order
-cleaned, aligned, etc., by paul plotnik at pro
digital in april of 2000
- ~260 hours on the heads
- has had some of the rubber coating scraped off in a
few small places on the top of the deck. This happened
when my V2 got loose in a backpack and the metal front
edge of the V2 rubbed against the deck in april '01.
It's purely cosmetic, the deck still functions
beautifully - I can supply pictures if needed.
- One thing I want to make very clear, as it relates
to the lifespan of the deck, is that it was never
powered in the field by a 6 volt source. The deck
needs 7.2, the interal batteries supply between 5.9
and 8.3. I used a 12volt battery with a 12v DC > 7.5
volt converter (which also functions as a voltage
regulator, it outputs a steady 7.5 volts right up
untill the battery goes out) I got about 6 hours
straight off a (rather old) 12v 7 Ah battery. I would
be happy to include the converter if you would like
it.
- I cut the AC adapter cable and inserted XLR plugs to
allow me to use either my battery setup or the AC
adapter. I can remove these if (for some reason) you
don't want them.
That's about it. Email me if interested or if you have
any questions. Not sure what the going price is these
days, I'd like to get $730 OBO.
~Chris
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From: Todd Romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: Re: VHS Vs. DAT / Analog Vs. Digital
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 02:03:43 -0500 (EST)
On Sat, 25 Jan 2003, J R wrote:
>
> Please, no lengthy debates of how some people prefer their humming,
> distorted, and lower quality sounding HiFi VHS tapes over today's superior
> DATs and CDRs. You are probably the same as those who say vinyl records
> sound "oh so way better than CDs. Their so warm and vibrant sounding" Yeah
> with all kinds of defects like scratches, pops and clicks that detract from
> the real sound and the enjoyment of the music.
>
> Those who prefer records over CDs grew up with listening to the pops and
> clicks and when they weren't there on CD, their songs just didn't sound the
> same anymore. CDs are made to make the music sound as it always should
> have. So you can hear like you were in the studio with the artist, without
> pops and clicks and humming noise.
>
people with real hi-end audio systems take care of their vinyl and dont
have scratches and pops. (ie static and dust) and from your argument, you
have obviously never heard a CD vs LP comparison on a real audiophile's
system :)
From: fmjqm@aol.com
Subject: drums/space
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 05:38:22 -0500
im archivin sum of my old analogs & the 1 im on is
missing drums. its the 9-11-83 santa fe sho, (mickeys 40
bday) the sun night. im lookin 4a comarable source to
mine, i used nak 700 >d5 in the makeshift taping sec.
any help would b great im just looking 4 "drums
/space" 2cut in.
thanks 4the room
michael
tax: ive got acouple socket7 333mhz motherboards w/
4 pci & 4 isa slots ill ship free 2any1 who wants
From: mark j horvath <chasingwilma@juno.com>
Subject: mikes #1 structure
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 09:05:57 -0500
Grateful Dead 4/5/69 Avalon Ballroom, San Francisco, CA
Source: SBD > REEL > REEL > DAT > SP/DIF > HD > SHN
DISC 1 -Set 1- 1 Duprees Diamond Blues 2 Mountains of the Moon > 3 Dark
Star > 4 St. Stephen > 5 Lovelight -Set 2- 6 Hard to Handle 7 Cosmic
Charlie
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From: Brian Gemborys <brian_gemborys@yahoo.com>
Subject: FT: Johnny Marr & The Healers - Boston
Date: Sun, 26 Jan 2003 06:33:16 -0800 (PST)
Hi. I taped Johnny Marr & The Healers in Boston and
would like to trade it for related material.
-Brian
brian_gemborys@yahoo.com
www.gemborys.org/trading
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