DAT-heads Digest #634, Volume #6 Wed, 5 Feb 03 13:50:00 EST Contents: ISO:Phish NYE ("enomoto yutaka") ISO Non US tapers ("Bryan") DATs for blanks (Robbie Dunn) #20 structure (mark j horvath) Phish Tapers Tix Trade- Denver 2/18 ("zach") Re: Old Ritek Discs: Got em? Better start backing em up!! ("da9ve stovall") TCD-D3 repairs ("Robert Warren") FS: 2 ALD Boxes......Assisted Lisgtening Device (datfly@gate.net) posting tree structure ("John Petroskas") Re: Alesis Masterlink (Len Moskowitz) re: Tascam DA-P1 questions (sybern2@email.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "enomoto yutaka" Subject: ISO:Phish NYE Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 16:30:47 +0900 Hi, I taped Hampton 3days, but missed MSG. So, I love to get those tapes. Ofcource, I'm always searching HQ Phish tapes or other good bands'. Here is my list; http://www.phishhook.com/lists/Eno If you find something you like, e-mail me please. Thank you. Yutaka Enomoto _________________________________________________________________ ウイルスメール、迷惑メール対策なら MSN Hotmail http://www.hotmail.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Bryan" Subject: ISO Non US tapers Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 18:58:27 -0500 Clutch is scheduled to play in various spots soon, and I am begging, yes begging, for anyone to tape them. 03/25/03 013 Tilburg, Netherlands 03/26/03 Vera Groningen, Netherlands 03/27/03 Ninkasi Kao Lyon, France 03/28/03 Rocking Chair Vevey, Switzerland 03/29/03 Bloom Milan, Italy 03/30/03 New Backstage Munchen, Germany 03/31/03 Faust Hanover, Germany 04/01/03 Sage Club Berlin, Germany 04/02/03 Schlachthof Hamburg, Germany 04/03/03 Batschkapp Frankfurt, Germany 04/04/03 OFF OFF 04/05/03 Matrix Bochum, Germany 04/06/03 OFF OFF 04/07/03 JB's Dudley, UK 04/08/03 Garage Glasgow, UK 04/09/03 Academy3 Manchester, UK 04/10/03 Mean Fiddler London, UK 04/11/03 TBA Ireland/UK. Derry/ 04/12/03 TBA Ireland/UK. Cork/Derry/ 04/13/03 TBA Ireland/UK. Cork 04/14/03 OFF OFF 04/15/03 OFF (Travel) OFF 04/16/03 OFF OFF 04/17/03 Club Quattro Nagoya, Japan 04/18/03 Shibuya Ax Tokyo, Japan 04/19/03 OFF OFF 04/20/03 Big Cat Osaka, Japan 04/21/03 OFF OFF 04/22/03 Club Quattro Hiroshima, Japan ------------------------------ From: Robbie Dunn Subject: DATs for blanks Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 07:11:41 -0500 Just finishing up part of the never ending quest of transferring my DAT collection to CD (and archiving SHN backups) .... and since I'm running out of space in the "library", I figured I'd offer up some of those DATs here as a trade for blanks. So for any newbies looking to jumpstart their music collection, here's your chance...... Artist / Date / Location / Source / Media Bruce Hornsby 8-22-95 Hampton Beach, NH - SBD (2 Maxell Pro 124) Wynton Marsalis 8-3-94 New York City - SBD (1 Panasonic 120) Phish 6-16-95 Raleigh, NC - AUD Sennheiser ME-88 (2 Fuji R120) Phish 12-7-97 Dayton, OH - AUD Schoeps CMC641 > Sonosax (2 Sony DT-120) Santana 6-28-91 Denver, CO -SBD (1 Maxell DM120) Grateful Dead 4-12-78 Set 2 Durham, NC - SBD (1 Sony DT-120) Project Z (Jimmy Herring, Jeff Sipe, etc) 9-23-01 - Aud Neumann KM-184 Carrboro, NC (1 Sony DG90P) Widespread Panic 9-29-93 Durham, NC Set 2 - SBD (1 Maxell DM-120) McCoy Tyner Trio 11-4-91 Philadelphia, PA - SBD (1 Sony DT-120) Warren Haynes Band 3-23-93 New York City - SBD (2 KAO 60 meter) Merl Saunders & The Rainforest Band 8-9-96 Leadville, CO - SBD (2 KAO 60 meter) Grateful Dead 7-31-88 Monterey, CA SBD (1 Panasonic 120 & 1 TDK 120) Herbie Hancock w/ Pat Metheny 6-23-90 Philadelphia - SBD (1 Sony DT-120) Branford Marsalis 1-26-93 SBD (1 Sony DT-120) Buddy Guy 4-9-93 Washington, DC SBD (1 Panasonic 120) What I'd like to do is get one person to take all 20 tapes. You can arrange to have 20 Sony DGP90 dat tapes sent to me (AM-Dig has them for $1.99 each), and when they notify me the blanks are in transit, I'll ship the dats to you priority mail. Drop me a line if you're interested. Ready set shango...... Robbie PS I'll have another mixed back of goodies ready to offer up in the near future, so if you're interested in getting some of the DATs I'm transferring, drop me an e-mail and I'll keep you updated. ------------------------------ From: mark j horvath Subject: #20 structure Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:53:15 -0500 Some people emailed me and stressed the importanace of posting it twice. 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Visit www.juno.com ------------------------------ From: "zach" Subject: Phish Tapers Tix Trade- Denver 2/18 Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 06:24:43 -0700 Howdy all, I'm not going to be able to tape this hometown gig due to time constraints. I've got a pair of section EEE seats at the Pepsi center 2/18/03 that I'd like to trade for some (non-taper) seats on the floor. I'd really not have to deal with this last minute..... Peace, Zach Andersson ------------------------------ From: "da9ve stovall" Subject: Re: Old Ritek Discs: Got em? Better start backing em up!! Date: 5 Feb 2003 05:48:19 -0800 >From: Benjamin Cho >Subject: Old Ritek Discs: Got em? Better start backing em >up!! >For all of you out there who were buying the silver >topped ritek CDR's that were being advertised on here >a few years ago, I would advise you to extract the >audio/data on them ASAP while you still can!! ... >I am now taking the few survivors and EAC'ing them to >make master SHN/APE/FLAC backups. Good idea. I've mostly avoided this problem of cheap media, but I've had quite a number of discs go south because of the labels stuck on them. One method to "rescue" what seems like an unreadable disc is to use the BlindRead/BlindWrite ( www.blindwrite.com ) suite of programs to do a raw image copy, and then burn another copy of the disc from that image. BlindRead will do a "raw data" read of any disc, essentially ignoring the error correction encoding and accepting whatever bits it's given. This may seem like exactly the wrong thing to do, but in the case of a physically damaged disc, heeding and interpreting the CIRC error correction encoding will often confuse software into rejecting a read as flawed, when in reality it's not nearly as flawed as it appears. I've rescued probably twenty or thirty discs that were otherwise unreadable in my Plextor drives AND any audio CD players I tried to play them in, by this method: 1 Make a raw image copy, 2 Burn that image to a rewritable disc (just to save media), 3 Extract the tracks from the RW copy with EAC. (4 If the copy is good, save a SHN backup!) It doesn't always work, but in my experience it mostly has. If you have a Plextor drive, there's a utility called PlexTools that also has a feature (reputedly very powerful) for doing a similar type of raw data read. I have the program, but haven't tested it against BlindRead yet. If you bought your Plextor drive in the US, you didn't get PlexTools, and in fact CAN'T even buy a copy in the US - it's a UK/Europe-only app, for some obtuse reason. But you can download it from www.plextor.be, and there's a registry setting that will allow you to install it. Contact me if you need this registry tweak. da9ve ------------------------------ From: "Robert Warren" Subject: TCD-D3 repairs Reply-To: "Robert Warren" Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 07:49:09 -0600 I have had an interesting three months with Sony repair service. First they told me that the D3 was still eligible for repair under the $179 flat rate. I sent it in, asking them to repair the digital in/out seven pin connection and the head. After they received it, they replied that since the unit was older than 9 years, it did not qualify for the flat rate. The repair bill for the above was estimated at $410. The head was about $200, the seven pin IC and cable another $200 or so. I denied the head replacement and asked for the digi in/out repair. They then informed me that the parts had to be shipped from Japan and would take about 12 weeks. I authorized it and waited the 12 weeks. Then, they shipped the unit back. Great! But, wait, the digi in/out still did't work. So I call Sony, they go checking and I get a voice mail this week. "The parts are no longer available to reapir the digi in/out". my advice, caveat emptor. Anybody have a d3 that's dead but the digi in/out worked? I may be interested. Thanks, Jud Warren warren.robert@worldnet.att.net Barney Wilen Discography http://home.att.net/~warren.robert ------------------------------ From: datfly@gate.net Subject: FS: 2 ALD Boxes......Assisted Lisgtening Device Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 09:39:20 -0500 (EST) Here is your chance to own a ALD (Assisted Listening Device) Receiver Box. This one is the most sought after version. It can tune into any of the known ALD frequencies used in venues throughout the country. Just simply turn the dial on top of the box until you hit the active frequency !! e-Bay Item # 3309599255 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D2296&item=3D3309 This box is pre-set to the most commonly used frequency 72.9 e-Bay Item # 3309598209 http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3D2296&item=3D3309 So if you are hearing impaired here is your chance to hear what you have been missing. I have used these from Florida to Seattle & have great success. They have worked in Theaters,Arenas & Stadiums !! Good Luck ------------------------------ From: "John Petroskas" Subject: posting tree structure Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 23:49:36 +0800 Why post a notice saying that a tree is closed, then immediately posting the entire structure, without ever having made an offer to the DAT-Heads list for spots on said tree? That sort of posting is a complete waste of time and space. BWT: first three people who reply will get a free show (no B&P needed) from a stack of extras on my desk (specify whether you prefer jambands or jazz in your reply) ============================== From: mark j horvath Subject: #20 closed Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:49:15 -0500 ============================== From: mark j horvath Subject: #20 structure Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2003 19:49:58 -0500 Paul Simon 2/14/87 Graceland Tour 2 cds European branch funky7@optonline.net>>cd>>bob@sunshine-daydream.co.uk -- _______________________________________________ http://www.operamail.com Now with OperaMail Premium for only US$29.99/yr Powered by Outblaze ------------------------------ From: Len Moskowitz Subject: Re: Alesis Masterlink Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 12:59:50 -0500 (EST) Steve wrote: > I was just wondering.... does anyone around here use the Alesis > Masterlink for their tranfers to CD? I do DAT transfers on the Masterlink. It's easy and doesn't tie up my computer. > I finally got mine back today after a long stint in the shop and I > need to start working on transferring my hours and hours of analog > tape to CD. Does anybody have any recommendations as to the best way > to do that as far as should I EQ it as well as normalize it? Any help > would be greatly appreciated. I do editing, EQ, fades, compression, reverb and normalizing on the computer. The Masterlink is a fine 24/96 recorder (if you add a nice mic-pre/A-to-D) and is also fine for rendering to redbook CD format, but its user interface is a bit clumsy for detailed work. Len Moskowitz Binaural StealthMics, Cables, DPA, M-Audio Core Sound http://www.stealthmicrophones.com Teaneck, New Jersey USA http://www.core-sound.com moskowit@core-sound.com Tel: 201-801-0812, FAX: 201-801-0912 ------------------------------ From: sybern2@email.com Subject: re: Tascam DA-P1 questions Date: Wed, 05 Feb 2003 13:24:55 -0500 Thank you for the e-mail info. I've been told by others "why bother" with trying to do computer backups to DAT... it's because you can get up to 40 GB from 1 DAT (150 m DDS4) but I'm not sure such big tapes would safely run in the da-p1... 150m = 300 min, and da-p1 manual doesn't recommend over 120 min, due to tape thickness. 300 min = 5 hours so this could work for overnight drive backups in real-time. I think CDs still can't match DAT for space. Has anyone used large DATs (e.g. DDS4) on the da-p1? Glad to hear that the da-p1 inputs map to outputs in INPUT MONITOR mode, i.e. w/o needing a tape. Someone warned me, though, that DATs introduce delay in the input->outputs signal path (digital only? A/D delays ?), which could be a problem when driving an audio rack with the deck's SPDIF outputs (the audio rack would be simultaneously receiving these along with its own MIC/LIN inputs). The last major stickler is brickwalling: I think this is an issue for studio (e.g. close-miking drums, which must have a hell of a transient) as well as loud live situations. I want to avoid external MIC preamps to keep as few stages in the analog path as possible. Apparently, it's possible to mod the internal preamps to get rid of this problem (Oade will do this, but only if you purchase the deck from them)... in my due diligence, I came across a DAT-heads article describing such a mod for the da-p1 but lost the thread: would anyone be kind enough to point me to it, or any other such article? I'd be willing to do the mod myself if need be. I appreciate the newbie assistance :-) If I do get this deck, I hope to actively participate in these forums in the future. One piece of info I can provide is that the feedback from others is that this is a solid deck. DAT technology is waning, though... Seems that most DAT-headers are into live rock concert taping (I've always regretted missing that Dead concert in '92 when I was living in the East Bay :-). Are any of you into nature field recording? regards, Sy -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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