DAT-heads Digest #638
Contents:
Question to OKMII mic users ("Bas Ruesink")
taping Sigur Ros and Interpol (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Spie=DF?=)
ISO Grateful Dead Alpine Valley 1987 ("Mark Paterick")
ISO: Tabla Beat Science 6/23/02 at Sierra Nevada Music Fest ("Jagjit Chadha")
Prodif24 Clicking? Whole wav file comparison? (Malcolm Hathaway)
Low Profile XLRs ("Gary Davis")
Assisted Listening Continued: Why "convert" to stereo? Wait a (JH)
44.1 kHz recording vs 48 kHz ("Chuck Miller")
Re: taping policies..... (aadam jacobs)
PCM2500 Info ("Nathan Taylor")
Extra DATs for trade/ B&P ("Santa Cruz Taper")
Tapers wanted. (RAQ) (SnowRide@aol.com)
ISO of few shows I was at! ("Todd & Jen Guite")
From: "Bas Ruesink" <basruesink@hotmail.com>
Subject: Question to OKMII mic users
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 20:11:28 +0100
my mics seems to get even more fragile as they were. with the smallest move
or turn of the wires (when using the A3) things get cracky. its mre when
using mic-in, but also line-in is not very reliable. any comments?
bas
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From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Spie=DF?= <teenage_riot@web.de>
Subject: taping Sigur Ros and Interpol
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 20:37:52 +0100
Hi all,
is it worth waiting in the cold to ask those guys for a board feed? I would
appreciate to hear from people who have spoken to them.
later...
Christian
From: "Mark Paterick" <msp081465@chartertn.net>
Subject: ISO Grateful Dead Alpine Valley 1987
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:50:37 -0500
Hey everyone
I am looking for the three Alpine Valley shows 06/26/87 06/27/87
06/28/87
I have alot to trade I can email my list if you are interested.
Thanks
Mark
From: "Jagjit Chadha" <jugu122@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: Tabla Beat Science 6/23/02 at Sierra Nevada Music Fest
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 20:17:48 +0000
Subject says it all. I have the other 2 shows from the tour as well as the
Stern Grove show last summer. I also have lots of Zakir Hussain related
stuff to trade (Shakti/Remember Shakti/Rhythm Experience/Masters of
Percussion, etc......) As well as the jam band stuff. Thanks!!
Jagjit
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From: Malcolm Hathaway <mhathaway@netway.com>
Subject: Prodif24 Clicking? Whole wav file comparison?
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 16:13:30 -0500
Hey Folks,
I've got a Prodif 24 (ISA) running in a 500MHz PC, with an AGP video card.
I extract from DAT ( Sony 670) via an optical cable (SPDIF), with all auto
sensing and other stuff turned off. I have been getting maybe 5-15 pops or
clicks (both channels) in a one hour recital (organ music, if it matters),
randomly scattered. By increasing the buffer size and number (in
Samplitude) I was able to reduce this number of pops, but not eliminate it.
I tried EAC, but it seems to automatically produce a re-sampled wav at 44
kHz and 16 bit resolution (I like to do resampling in Samplitude at 32 bit
resolution... they say it's better that way). Besides, I believe that EAC
error checking only works on CDROM extraction, because it can tell the
drive to go back and read things over again a couple times. Hard drive is
7200 rpm 40G Maxtor.
Questions:
1. Does anybody know (short of getting a different i.e. non-ISA card) how
I might get these pops and clicks to go away completely?
2. Does anybody know of an app that will let me compare two complete wav
files(if I were to extract twice), and "fix" (the way EAC compares and
fixes on the fly) any differences that it finds. Or even if it just
returned a report of the position of "suspicious" jumps in the wave-form,
so I could go in and fix or snip or smooth them out using Samplitude? Is
this what "declicking" software does? Since the errors are usually just
abrubt jumps in the sample values, I can find them manually, but it takes a
while.
Thanks,
Mac
From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Low Profile XLRs
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 14:35:23 -0800
I've mentioned this before, but if you're willing to give up some
physical reliability, it's possible to make a very tiny XLR connector
just by throwing out the metal barrel.
Inside the metal barrel is a small wafer with the three pins on it.
This wafer alone is all you need to make the connection. Just
solder your wires to the wafer, and you can have an XLR which
sticks out less than 1/2 inch.
--Gary
From: JH <kc7fys@yahoo.com>
Subject: Assisted Listening Continued: Why "convert" to stereo? Wait a
Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2003 18:32:57 -0600
At 01:50 PM 2/6/2003 -0500, you wrote:
>From: Barry Welch <barryw@io.com>
>Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #634 - 2 ALD Boxes......Assisted Listening
>Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2003 17:31:19 -0600
>
> Aren't these usually mono devices?? I suppose you could use a Y-cable
> to convert the
>mono signal to
>a stereo to feed a DAT, providing the signal quality was worth it.
Why feed both channels of your DAT this mono signal? You're running a
two-channel recording device, why not use the other channel for a single
audience mic? You won't have to use that signal later, but you never know
what it could be useful for. I have taped a bluegrass festival in Iowa for
a few years running and get a great mono feed from their old crusty Peavy
board. The first year I just fed one channel of my deck and made my CDR
masters a mono track--or more accurately the mono signal on R and L. In
subsequent years I'd arrived with the appropriate adaptors to feed that
mono signal to both sides of my DAT. However, this year I scratched my
head and came up with a couple different adaptors--actually just a matter
of partially inserting the jack on my Sanken COS-II stealth pair into a
Y-adaptor, taping it up, and then I could put that mic on a stand FOB, and
still feed the other channel with the mono SBD. There was a wide level
disparity; the AUD mic signal was very low, but once I dumped it to my hard
drive, and brought the other channel up I could "mix" it using the pan
control on my receiver on playback. Of course it was delayed, and it needed
to be kept very low for any reasonably realistic sound to be achieved--but
my point is that it's another channel of SOMETHING that would otherwise
just be an empty channel of the show. In the future I may have the ability
to time-align it, mix it, whatever. For the time being though, I have the
clear MONO SBD of the show, and a very ambient AUD of the same show on my 2
track DAT.
So all that longwindedness is just to tell you--at LEAST record the mono
channel, and don't worry about the empty channel of your DAT. You don't
need two imprints of the same mono signal anyway. When you burn it to
CDR--as most of us inevitably do, it will be a good mono SBD. Ying it
doesn't make it stereo anyway.
Jonathan
PS. I have this 8-DAT bluegrass festival for trade, actually. I've
transferred the material to .shn, and want to trade out the DAT masters for
CDR or whatever. The show is three days from the end of July, the Backbone
Bluegrass Festival, featuring several bands from the Midwest: The Wilders,
Waterloo Boy, The Waring Family, The Strawberry Pickers, and others. About
20 hours of bluegrass--the whole festival complete. The
pseudo-quasi-stereoFONIC format indicated above.
I'd like to trade it for blanks, other material on DAT, or on CDR. Email me.
From: "Chuck Miller" <calicocourt@gbronline.com>
Subject: 44.1 kHz recording vs 48 kHz
Reply-To: <chuckmiller@stones.com>
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 18:03:12 -0700
I'm sure this has been covered before, but I can't find it.
Wouldn't it be better to record at 44.1 kHz so you don't have to down sample
to 44.1 kHz when burning to CD or making a SHN file? I'm aware that 48 kHz
gives more detail in the high. I just wonder if it makes any sense to use
44.1 kHz when making the master recording? ...please be kind... :)
Chuck Miller
calicocourt@gbronline.com
From: aadam jacobs <aadamjacobs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: taping policies.....
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 19:12:33 -0800 (PST)
> <crappysoundingbinaurals@yahoo.no>
> Subject: taping policies.....
> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 17:30:38 +0100 (CET)
> anyone got info on the taping policy of the
> following
> bands
>
> flaming lips
They're usually ok. I only had a problem once (in
umTEEN years) & that was because of a stupid tour
manager.
> calexico
They're really nice. Be sure to talk to Joey about
getting them a copy.
> the residents
Eye don't know.
AJ
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From: "Nathan Taylor" <ntaylor@nabi.net>
Subject: PCM2500 Info
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 21:37:36 -0600
I'm looking for information on how to modify the Sony PCM2500 to run
standalone (without the signal processor) - I know the four RCA's on the top
module are unbalanced +4 ins/outs, and thats all I need... but how to get
the unit to function without the bottom box?
It seems to need the connection for the settings on the switches, and maybe
something else.. not sure
anyhow, I dont know much about this machine, and it seems really hard to
find data on them... any good links about the PCM2500 would be appreciated;)
Thanks,
-Nathan
From: "Santa Cruz Taper" <teammbho@yahoo.com>
Subject: Extra DATs for trade/ B&P
Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2003 21:54:30 -0800
Hi all! I have a few extra DATs that I would like to find a good home for.
I will trade for some/all of these or take a B&P for sealed tapes. Please
email me if you are interested. Thank you!
Ross
Phil & Friends 7-10-01 Senn MD411u>P1 FOB 90m
Reconstruction 3-10-79 S>Rm>D 90m
JGB 10-11-75 S>R>D 90m
Doc Watson 10-27-77 S>Cm>D 60m
Dead 6-7-70 & 2-5-70 S>R>D 90m (David Gans tape)
Phish 7-3-99 Schoeps M222>MK4V>NT222>VMS021B>P1 90m
WSP 3-28-97 S>D 90m
WSP 7-2-00 A>D 90m
WSP 4-22-01 Set II only A>D 60m
From: SnowRide@aol.com
Subject: Tapers wanted. (RAQ)
Date: Sun, 09 Feb 2003 02:04:55 -0500
Hey gang,
Sorry for the cross posting! I'd love to get a bunch of these RAQ shows captured. I can offer a guest list spot in exchange for recordings of these shows. Get in touch if you're interested.
02/13/03 House of Blues - Cambridge, MA
96 Winthrop St - (617) 497-2229
18+ / 9pm start / 2 sets
02/14/03 Club Caroline - Saratoga Springs, NY
13 Caroline St (518) 580-0155
21+ / 10pm start / 2 sets
02/15/03 Darwins - Syracuse, NY
701 S. Crouse Ave - (315) 431-0986
21+ / 10pm start / 2 sets
02/18/03 Stanhope House - Stanhope, NJ
45 Main St - (973) 347-0458
21+ / 9pm Sharp! / 2 Sets
02/19/03 The Brewery - State College, PA
233 E. Beaver Ave - (814) 237-2892
21+ / 10pm start / 2 sets
02/20/03 The Saint - Asbury Park, NJ
601 Main St - (732) 775-9144
18+ / 10pm start / 2 Sets
02/21/03 Beardslee Castle - 6 mi. East of Little Falls, NY
Rt. 5 - (315) 823-3000
18+ / 10pm start / 2 sets
02/22/03 Castaway's - Ithaca, NY
413 Taughannock Blvd - (607) 272-1370
18+ / 9:30 SHARP!
opening for Addison Groove Project
02/26/03 Club Marque - Worcester, MA
336 Main St - (508) 757-7779
18+ / 10pm start / 2 sets
02/27/03 Arch St. Tavern - Hartford, CT
85 Arch Street - (860) 246-7610
21+ / 10:15pm set / Doors @ 8:00pm
Project Sipowitz opens
02/28/03 Tobacco Road - New York, NY
355 W 41st - (212) 244-7623
(across from Port Authority)
21+ / 12am start / 2 Sets
If you havn't heard RAQ check out http://www.raqmusic.com/htm/music.html for shns or mp3s
Thanks,
Cliff
From: "Todd & Jen Guite" <guite917@suscom-maine.net>
Subject: ISO of few shows I was at!
Date: Sun, 9 Feb 2003 05:12:27 -0500
Have lots to trade, with list on excel Spreadsheet, I can send(Goes thru
Norton anti-virus)I have found all but 2 of the 130 Dead family shows I
attended!I need Dead 4/5/93 Set2 and JGB 9/13/89. I am also looking for
FOB's or SBDs of the Traffic opening sets for the Dead on 8/3 & 8/4/94.Last
I am looking for some DMB, my wife and I attended
6/17/01,5/29/99,12/8/98,10/11/96 and finally Dave & Tim 2/14/96.Thanks for
any help and email me directly!
Todd-- guite917@suscom-maine.net
will take on dat or cd and can trade or B&P
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