DAT-heads Digest #651, Volume #6 Fri, 21 Feb 03 19:50:01 EST Contents: Hammerstein Ballroom security?--Taping No Doubt on Feb. 24th (PromTheme@aol.com) Early REM DATs for trade (Robert Moose) Nomad vs. D7: size & quality ("Gary Davis") Edirol/RME audio interfaces ("Marc Nutter") FS: Sonicase Pro ("John Cocci") FS: Tascam DA-20 ("John Cocci") Re: Nomad vs. D7: size & quality (Seth Breidbart) FS: mod SBM-1 (Robert Kane) stucked situation...London UK tapers please read!! ("Kimmo ") Nomad 3 - thumbs up or down? (Joshua) Phish 2/18/03 Bit Torrent Download ("JASON BRANTLEY") Nakamichi / Tascam / Teac Mic info ("James Ballen") does robert earl keen allow taping, sbds ??? ("gordon wilson") some questions..... ("gordon wilson") Re: some questions..... (Seth Breidbart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PromTheme@aol.com Subject: Hammerstein Ballroom security?--Taping No Doubt on Feb. 24th Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:11:54 EST Hey fellow DAT-heads, I am planning on taping No Doubt again. This time it'll be their show at Hammerstein Ballroom this Monday February 24th. I will be using KM-140s > AETA PSP-3 > Sony M1 I talked with No Doubt in the past and found out they do not allow taping. Therefore, this will be stealth. I have never been to this venue and need as much info as possible, including where the best spots on the floor are (I think No Doubt uses a mono mix, but I'm not certain). Most importantly, I need to know if there are any metal detector wands and heavy pat downs at entry. I will be alone and crotching all this gear by myself : ( If anyone wants to meet up and help me tape, or tape with another setup, that would be great. The band is not on tour now--they'll just be in town for the Grammy's. Thanks, Tom ------------------------------ From: Robert Moose Subject: Early REM DATs for trade Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:59:54 -0500 I'm not a big REM collector, but I have a few early shows on DAT: 1982.04.38, 1982.08.24, 1982.11.06, 1983.07.13, and 1983.09.24. 4 of the 5 are soundboards and one is a DAT FM recording. All are at least very low gen, with a few possibly being from (analog) masters. I don't know if these are widely circulated or not, but I'd like to trade for other comparable quality, early REM shows. I'm also always looking for June Tabor/Silly Sisters, the Proclaimers, Colorblind James, and Catfish Keith. Bob ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Nomad vs. D7: size & quality Reply-to: gdavisloop@earthlink.net Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 19:47:10 -0800 The key difference here, with the Nomad roughtly 5X5 inches, and the D7/D8 roughly 5X3 inches, one will slip into a jeans pocket and one won't. The M1/D100, of course, are even smaller. Also, Sony's portable DATs produce studio-quality recordings, at least through the line or digital input, never "miss a sample," rarely lose the whole recording (can't say never), record for 6 hours or more on one set of batteries (and one tape in LP mode), and have good VU meters. I don't think the Nomad is even supposed to work that well, and if it does someday, it will be in spite of, not because of, solid audio engineering. (IMO) --Gary ------------------------------ From: "Marc Nutter" Subject: Edirol/RME audio interfaces Reply-To: Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 16:20:39 -0700 Hi Aaron (and All), >Does anyone have any experience with these products? I know the USB Edirol >will be slower than the RME (which uses the PCI computer interface) As you will be transferring in real-time, USB vs. PCMCIA, etc... is insignificant. Either of these products can pass audio quickly enough to record a DAT tape. >but I like its portability and options to record directly to my computer >through the XLR inputs. This is definitely an appeal of the Edirol box. >However, my primary function is to transfer DATS to my >computer. As far as that goes, will both of these units provide seemless >digital transfers to my computer without any loss? If they do, can anyone >see any reason why I would not want to go with the Edirol UA-5 over the >RME 96/8? The RME 96/8 supports 24-bit/96kHz. By getting a card of this caliber, you open the door to trading/collecting high-resolution recording. I have many clients using the 96/8 and really liking it. The UA-5 is a decent value at the price point but if you can forego the portability, I would recommend the RME card. I hope this helps. Marc Marc Nutter Sonic Sense, Inc. (303) 753-0201 or Toll-Free (877) 324-4463 2755 S. Gilpin St. Denver, CO 80210 http://www.sonicsense.com nutter@sonicsense.com ------------------------------ From: "John Cocci" Subject: FS: Sonicase Pro Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:47:31 -0800 I am selling my Sonicase Pro. It is only a few months old and is basically brand new. I am asking $150 for it. I don't believe Sonic Sense is making these anymore. E-mail me privately if interested. Thanks. John Cocci ------------------------------ From: "John Cocci" Subject: FS: Tascam DA-20 Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 20:49:21 -0800 I have no need for 2 home DAT decks anymore so I would like to sell this one. It is great shape. I had the heads replaced a few years ago and it hasn't many hours since then. I have the original box, manual, remote and rack ears for it. E-mail me if interested. Thanks. John ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Nomad vs. D7: size & quality Date: Thu, 20 Feb 2003 23:59:04 -0500 (EST) > Also, Sony's portable DATs produce studio-quality recordings, at > least through the line or digital input, never "miss a sample," > rarely lose the whole recording (can't say never), record for 6 > hours or more on one set of batteries (and one tape in LP mode), and > have good VU meters. The Nomad produces decent quality recordings through line in (I haven't really tested it) and works fine with digital input. The latest firmware doesn't drop samples, and problems are, I'd guess, less common than with Sony misloads. You get a lot more than 6 hours on one set of (2) rechargeable batteries. The VU meters aren't great. Seth ------------------------------ From: Robert Kane Subject: FS: mod SBM-1 Reply-To: roekbarnet@ameritech.net Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 00:19:02 -0500 as the subject reads i have a mod SBM-1 for sale, i am sticking with the MMe. i am not the original owner, but i have the receipt for the mod from Oade. it has the ADC 24 SBM LINE UPGRADE. i have the original box (no manual), and a d-cell battery sled that i never used. the unit works flawlessly. appearance-wise it is a little rough: the 'paint' is rubbing off a little along the sides, there is electrical tape on part of the 7-pin plug, and the battery door opens very easily (i have kept a rubber band around it to be safe). you can see pictures here: front: http://www.ameritech.net/users/roekbarnet/sbm1front.jpg back: http://www.ameritech.net/users/roekbarnet/sbm1back.jpg asking $600 (includes priority shipping), OBO. i just bought it a few months ago for $600, so don't email any lowball offers. email me if you have any questions. i can take paypal to speed things up. i am going out of town for a few weeks on the 28th, so i would like to ship it out before then. ~Robert ------------------------------ From: "Kimmo " Subject: stucked situation...London UK tapers please read!! Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 07:13:57 -0500 Hi list, Unfortunately due to some work commitments which has recently popped up I am no longer able to tape my fave group DEF LEPPARD at Brixton Academy in London UK thursday next week.I had planned to go at that show with a friend of mine so I have actually 2 tickets for that show laying here who I really hope I could find a taper to send them to instead of putting them in my garbage can.It would be too bad if I have to put these 2 tickets in my garbage can so are you or someone you know in UK able to tape the show below for me if I send you the 2 tickets and money for the blanks/postage? Here is the info for the show: DEF LEPPARD: Thursday 27/02/03 London, UK Brixton Academy The only thing I ask for in return is a copy of the taper's recording on CDR or on DAT tape. If you are not able to tape the show above do you know of any other tapers living not too far from London UK who is able to go there and tape that show for me? I would even be willing to cover any transport costs(for example a train ticket) for a possible taper if you live in London UK area....I just think it would be too bad to put these 2 tickets in my garbage.I don't want to sell them either as it's hard to get them sold.A possible taper can bring a friend with him to the show as I will send him 2 tickets. Please let me know as soon as possible if you are able to help out in this pity situation.I am able to send the 2 tickets and money for blanks by express mail(as soon as you respond to this email) to any taper who could be willing to tape the show above.It's only 6 days left to the show so I'm hoping on a quick response from a kind soul.Just forward this email to ANY taper in UK who may be able to help out.My email is: duxous@email.com Email me off list. Hope to hear from you as soon as possible. Thanks in advance, Kimmo -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ------------------------------ From: Joshua Subject: Nomad 3 - thumbs up or down? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 05:48:53 -0800 (PST) Hey hey - I'm wondering if there was ever a consensus reached as to whether the new Nomads were glich free in taking a digital feed.... Thanks! -Josh PS anyone up for some online Metallica trades? New album and tour comin' up!!!!!! __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "JASON BRANTLEY" Subject: Phish 2/18/03 Bit Torrent Download Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 10:22:46 -0700 Hi All, I have Phish Denver up for Bit Torrent Download it's on a 256K line so please be patient. http://207.36.59.179/BT/ph2003-02-18.flac16.torrent http://207.36.59.179/BT/ph2003-02-18.flac16.txt Here are a couple links for bit torrent clients for Windows and Mac. Windows: http://osdn.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bittorrent/bittorrent-3.1.exe Mac OS X: http://unc.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/bittorrent/BitTorrent_OSX_3.1. dmg Enjoy, JB We have the 24-bit/96k version ready to go as well. We'll plan this one for next week or so. Would you like to download it or get a DVD-R? Have a great day! Marc _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "James Ballen" Subject: Nakamichi / Tascam / Teac Mic info Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 14:53:17 -0500 I'm wondering if any experienced users of the Nakamichi cm-300 mic's, or of the teac me-120, or tascam pe-120 mics could shed some light... These mics use the cylindrical 9v battery. I've successfully sent phantom power to them as well, and this works. I'm wondering if this will still drain the battery, or if it will just be acting as a pass through for the phantom current. has anyone tried this? It could save alot of batteries if it indeed does not drain it. I saw a Nak mx-100 "mixer" and a ps-100 power supply unit recently...and i'm wondering if the power supply actually supplied power to the mics, in addition to the mixer...does anyone have one of these and know? Information seems to be really hard to come by on the internet, probably because these were discontinued ~15 years ago. They sound great though, I am pretty impressed with their performance. In exchange for this outreach for info, i'll offer up a BWT. BWT: first person to respond, i'll B&P Keller/Flecktones from Boston Fleet Pavilion, last August. Neumann km140 source. thanks all! ~jamos _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ From: "gordon wilson" Subject: does robert earl keen allow taping, sbds ??? Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:13:37 -0500 thinking about seeing tomorrow in Asheville and wondering if I should bring my deck. Gordon "A fool and his money are soon parted. I would pay anyone a lot of money to explain that one to me." Homer J Simpson ------------------------------ From: "gordon wilson" Subject: some questions..... Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:16:23 -0500 in light of kellers no sbds I will be taping with mics for the first time on monday. someone is bringing some 4011's or 4022's (he doesn't know which) and a d3. well I have a dap1. I know the preamp and a/d is not great in the p1 but it's all we got. I'm assuming I can go from the mic xlr straight into the p1. what setting on the analog input should I use (20db,mic,line). will one eco charge be enough for the mics and deck? should I change the eco at set break (I have two). should levels be set the same as if I were coming out of the board? sorry guys for all the questions but I'd like to have some idea of what the fuck I'm doing before monday night. Gordon "A fool and his money are soon parted. I would pay anyone a lot of money to explain that one to me." Homer J Simpson ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: some questions..... Date: Fri, 21 Feb 2003 17:21:45 -0500 (EST) > in light of kellers no sbds I will be taping with mics for the first > time on monday. someone is bringing some 4011's or 4022's (he > doesn't know which) and a d3. well I have a dap1. I know the preamp > and a/d is not great in the p1 but it's all we got. I'm assuming I > can go from the mic xlr straight into the p1. what setting on the > analog input should I use (20db,mic,line). You have to use one of the "mic" settings to get phantom power (which the B&K's need). Since they're very high output, I'd use the padded setting (-20dB). It shouldn't hurt to fully charge the battery and change at set break; how long does it last now for recording (albeit without phantom power)? Level setting depends on how loud the show is; forget about what the board might do. 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