DAT-heads Digest #654, Volume #6 Mon, 24 Feb 03 17:50:00 EST Contents: ISO: Hong Kong tapers for Beyond ("kenko1@ix.netcom.com") ISO: (1) Worcester Phish Ticket (Keith Forman) Portable outboard AD converters vs D8 ("Earl T. Benson") Re: Portable outboard AD converters vs D8 (Seth Breidbart) FS: Sonosax SX-M2 mic pre (Jesse Lackey) FS: Neumann KM184s w/ extras ("Paul Chrostowski") ISO date help: James Taylor, Cat Stevens BBC c. 1971 ("Gary Davis") Grammys DAT ("Gary Davis") re: nomad, thumbs up or down? ("Nick Georges") re: nomad, thumbs up or down? (Mark Mayhle) Matty Pickett ("Robert Gervais") ISO: Bob Griesel ("STANLEY WILLEY") The passing of our friend ("Bill Hoy") Amsterdam, Heineken Hall security ("Anders Rehnsberg") ISO: The Sisters Of Mercy DAT traders ("Anders Rehnsberg") ISO:Japanese Taper's ("Tatina, Bill") Ok Go and the Donnas? ("Andy Liu") RE: Soundboard feeds (Christopher D Gacek) Grammys - Garbage covers U2 (Bill Shaw) FS: ONE CP-4 SHOTGUN CAP. ("taperroy") wtd: philly fm taper, this sunday ("slowdivingblue .") quantegy DAT vs Ampex DDS (Todd Romero) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "kenko1@ix.netcom.com" Subject: ISO: Hong Kong tapers for Beyond Reply-To: kenko1@ix.netcom.com Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 20:10:17 -0500 Sorry for the unusual request=2E Looking for DAT or MD tapers in Hong Kong= to tape a local band called Beyond (will most likely have to be stealth)=2E T= hey are supposed to play between 3 to 5 shows at the Hung Hom Coliseum in very= early May 2003 to celebrate their 20th anniversary, as well as to pay tribute to the 10th anniversary of the original lead singer's passing=2E Other possible TBA dates later this year in Taiwan and South East Asia=2E Please contact me at kenko1@ix=2Enetcom=2Ecom if you are taping them=2E Cheers! -Ken=20 ==================================================================== mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ From: Keith Forman Subject: ISO: (1) Worcester Phish Ticket Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 21:38:42 -0500 Howdy, Just wondering if anyone here on dats digest can help me out. I'm leaving to finish the tour on Monday so you can call me if you can help me. Remember: (1) Worcester Extra Peace, Keith 443-742-1663 ___________________________________________ "Some folks would be happy just to have ONE dream come true"--Hunter/Garcia =============================== <<>> http://db.etree.org/kfor5311 ___________________________________________ ------------------------------ From: "Earl T. Benson" Subject: Portable outboard AD converters vs D8 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:06:29 -0500 What is the quality of the AD converters in a Sony D8? Is it worth it to use one of the portable AD converters on the market as a front end to my D8? My source inputs are usually from the analog, line-out jacks of other consumer audio equipment. I have not yet gotten into live DAT recording. Thanks, Earl ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Portable outboard AD converters vs D8 Date: Sun, 23 Feb 2003 23:35:23 -0500 (EST) > What is the quality of the AD converters in a Sony D8? Decent. > Is it worth it to use one of the portable AD converters on the > market as a front end to my D8? You have to decide that for yourself. > My source inputs are usually from the analog, line-out jacks of > other consumer audio equipment. I have not yet gotten into live DAT > recording. My guess is, probably not; you might borrow an AD converter and try a comparison. Seth ------------------------------ From: Jesse Lackey Subject: FS: Sonosax SX-M2 mic pre Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:42:22 -0500 Hello all, I'm selling my Sonosax SX-M2 mic pre. Bought new for $1250 in 1996, its been (gently) used ... 150? times, and in perfect condition functionally and cosmetically. Functionality: 2 channel w/switchable 48V phantom power, gain 0db, 6-40 and 20-76 (two ranges) independently adjustable for each channel, low battery and clip indicator. Balanced XLR in, Balanced XLR as well as unbalanced 1/8" out. Runs on 2 9V batteries, or 12-24V DC @ 80ma. Approx 3.25" x 5.75" x 1.6" high. For detailed specs: Sonosax is at http://www.sonosax.ch/ Comes with foam mini-"suitcase", original manual, a hard-to-find power plug to make a DC in power source, and (if you want it) a 6V to 15V DC/DC converter power source I made. I've made many great recordings with this between my B&K 4021 mics and Sony SBM-1 A/D. Its the same size as the SBM-1 (and the D8), so you can "stack" all three together for compact high-quality recordings. Reason for selling: hardly tape anymore, and have credit card debt... :( I'd like to get $750 for it. Will consider all offers. Thank you, Jesse Lackey ------------------------------ From: "Paul Chrostowski" Subject: FS: Neumann KM184s w/ extras Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 02:11:23 -0500 Hi All, Upgraded a while back and so it's time to finally sell my Neumanns. They're in pristine condition and come with some DPA & Shure windscreens and (1) AT8410a shockmount. If you're looking to upgrade to a high quality and low cost mic here's a great opportunity. The auction link is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2510170958 Take Care, Paul WBT: a free copy of MMW 1/18/03 Freebird Cafe, Jacksonville, FL ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: ISO date help: James Taylor, Cat Stevens BBC c. 1971 Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:22:14 -0800 Does anyone have dates for the BBC "1970/71" TV broadcasts of James Taylor or Cat Stevens? Thanks- --Gary ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Grammys DAT Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 01:22:14 -0800 I made a raw DAT of the Grammys from the satellite feed. Anyone want to make a CD out of it? --G ------------------------------ From: "Nick Georges" Subject: re: nomad, thumbs up or down? Reply-To: Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:55:10 -0500 The nomad is not for everyone, put it that way. I have been using it for a few months, feeding it an optical line from a CO2 s/pdif format converter. I've not done bit accuracy tests with it. From the very extensive testing that Jamie Lutch has done, I see no need. It is "sometimes" bit perfect, and other times it drops samples. These dropped samples can be absolutely impossible to detect by ear or they can be a pop, click or drop out. In my experience, I have seen one dropout occur in one recording I have made (it was about 1:40 into a two hour recording). This is one issue out of probably 15 outings with it, though this was with an earlier revision of the nomad firmware. This lack of consistence is all that some folks need to say "junk". For me, it is an acceptable trade off to get rid of DAT with its expensive tapes, head cleaning, mechanical failure, misloads, bit-perfect sound cards, transfer times, resample.etc. I've also used it for line-in recording with a pair of CoreSound HEB mics. Excellent results (though none of the switchcraft mini-jacks that are used by CoreSound would fit properly in the universal mic/line/optical jack of the nomad). All said and done, *I* give it a thumbs up. It works well for my tastes and will continue to be my main 16bit recorder. ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: re: nomad, thumbs up or down? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 07:22:26 -0600 (CST) On Mon, 24 Feb 2003, Nick Georges wrote: > The nomad is not for everyone, put it that way. > > I have been using it for a few months, feeding it an optical line from a > CO2 s/pdif format converter. I've not done bit accuracy tests with it. > >From the very extensive testing that Jamie Lutch has done, I see no > need. It is "sometimes" bit perfect, and other times it drops samples. > These dropped samples can be absolutely impossible to detect by ear or > they can be a pop, click or drop out. In my experience, I have seen one > dropout occur in one recording I have made (it was about 1:40 into a two > hour recording). It's interesting that Jamie has also tested several CO2's including 2 of mine, and has found that they are not reliably bit-accurate. I don't recall if he has tested the JB3 independent of the CO2, but it wouldn't be surprising if results obtained with the CO2 are different than results obtained with the optical output of the SBM-1, as reported by Michael Frasca. -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: "Robert Gervais" Subject: Matty Pickett Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 09:26:28 -0600 I'd like to make a somber announcement. I just found out last night that a fellow Dat head, Matty Pickett, went to the Great White show in West Warwick RI last week and didn't make it out. I have been trading with Matty for 10+ years and talked to him on the phone a lot, although I never met him in person. He was a huge music fan and had an extensive collection of hard rock, especially Deep Purple and related bands. He taped a TON of shows over the years. I just received an Ian Moore dat last week from him and have a package ready to mail to him right now. It seems pretty surreal to find that he died in the blaze. It really opened my eyes because...... lord knows the small packed clubs I have been in over the years where something could have happened. But for the grace of god that could have been me or any of us for that matter. Anyway, I wanted to let everyone know we lost a fellow dathead. He was a good guy and will be missed. I'm going to put on that Ian moore dat and raise a glass to him. Thanks for the bandwidth. Bobby Gervais ------------------------------ From: "STANLEY WILLEY" Subject: ISO: Bob Griesel Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 08:14:57 -0800 Greeting Heads, I just recently received a box of tapes from Bob Griesel. All of the tapes are missing source information. I was wondering if anyone knows where Bob is right now or have a copy of his DAT list. Any help is appreciated. Thanks, Stan _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "Bill Hoy" Subject: The passing of our friend Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:55:47 -0500 Hello everyone - I am sorry for the extremely personal nature of this posting, but I feel = that the DAT-Heads mailing list is the only way that I will be able to = find everyone and speak to everyone. I am sure by now you have all = heard of the horrible tragedy at The Station in Warwick, RI. = Unfortunately, it is with pain that I am writing to let everyone know = that this horrible incident claimed the lives of one our best friends, = Matt Pickett. He taped about 500 shows from 1993-2003. =20 I met Matt back in 1997 through music, concerts, and tape trading. He = sent me his tape list and immediately I knew that we had the same = interests - we had been to the same concerts in the same venues for = years. Matt & I became instant friends. Recording and trading live = music was his passion. From this we developed a strong friendship. We = drove all over the east coast together. Matt helped me through more = difficult times than I can remember - breakups, job trouble, = confrontations, anything. Matt was a kind ear, and he had advice and = experience in all situations. He was everything I was not - he was = people-person and knew how to deal with everything. This is what drew = everyone around him to him. Through Matt I met even more wonderful = people. I am just writing so that I can let everyone know this unfortunate news. = I don't know the details of which ones of you he traded with and = chatted with, but chances are if you have some rock shows from the New = England area, they came from him. I offer up my e-mail: bhoy@eaw.com if = anyone would like further information. I am hoping some of you can = share your experiences with Matt to me via private email. 2003 was to = be Matt's biggest year. He had himself a house, and was set to be = married. If you would like, I will compile any emails and present them = to his fiancee. She will appreciate the smallest of messages from = anyone who knew him. Thanks - and again I apologize for the very personal nature of this = message. If I had lists of people, I would share this information = personally. I just don't know how to find all the people Matt knew = around the world. I am hoping some of them still read DAT-Heads and I = can find them that way. Matt was big into UFO and the Scorpions. If = people in these circles outside of DAT-Heads can be contacted please = alert me; pass along my email. Please be careful when you guys go out and tape these days. We find = ourselves in the most awful of venues and before we never used to expect = anything bad to happen to us. Sincerely,=20 Bill Hoy bhoy@eaw.com ------------------------------ From: "Anders Rehnsberg" Subject: Amsterdam, Heineken Hall security Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:08:27 +0100 Hi there, anyone out there who knows anything about the securitcy at the Heineken Hall in Amsterdam ? Going to go there for a The Sisters Of Mercy show 30th mars. Any answer is apriciated. ------------------------------ From: "Anders Rehnsberg" Subject: ISO: The Sisters Of Mercy DAT traders Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 19:30:07 +0100 Hi there, I=B4m looking for The Sisters Of Mercy DAT traders. you can find my page at http//hem2.passagen.se/summer2/ these are the shows I have on DAT so far: London 90 Stockholm 91 Roskilde 91 New York, july 91 Tampa 91 Reading 91 Birmingham 92 London, Crystal Palace 93 London, Brixton Academy night 1 and 2 93 Offenbach 96 Wiesen 97 (incomplete) Arvika Festival 98 Arvika festival 2001 St Vith 2002 I can=B4t make any DAT clones yet, I need to get a better soundcard or a another DAT deck. / Andy ------------------------------ From: "Tatina, Bill" Subject: ISO:Japanese Taper's Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:00:07 -0800 if you've traded with me before, please contact me. I've lost emails and my newest contact info files with you thanks Billy T ================ Halford CRUCIBLE WORLD TOUR 2003 Tour of Japan The performance dates & cities are as follows: Feb 11, 2003 - Tokyo Shibuya Kokaido=20 Feb 12, 2003 - Travel Day=20 Feb 13, 2003 - Fukuoka Zepp=20 Feb 14, 2003 - Osaka Nenkin Hall=20 Feb 15, 2003 - Tokyo Shibuya Kokaido=20 Feb 16, 2003 - Travel Day=20 Feb 17, 2003 - Nagoya=20 Feb 18, 2003 - Travel Day=20 Feb 19, 2003 - Sapporo Zepp=20 Y&T / Dave Meniketti Jan 2003 Tokya and Osaka Japan Shows ------------------------------ From: "Andy Liu" Subject: Ok Go and the Donnas? Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 11:37:55 -0800 Anybody get the show at the Showbox in Seattle last nite? Wanna trade? BWT: Ok Go! 2-23-03 Easy Street Records, Seattle, WA (21 min) F: Nak CM-300/CP-1>Sonosax SX-M2>SONY PCM-M1 (on a post 25 feet back) PP:SONY PCM-R300>AP2496>SF>CDWave>mkwACT _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your e-mail with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ From: Christopher D Gacek Subject: RE: Soundboard feeds Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 13:29:34 CST Hello, I'm looking to get some info on soundboard feeds at a couple of venues in Austin, TX I'm going down to the SXSW festival in march and am hoping to get some good soundboard recordings. Any help on the feeds from these venues would be appreciated. 1. Red Eye Fly 2. Mother Egan's 3. Emos's Thanks, Chris  ------------------------------ From: Bill Shaw Subject: Grammys - Garbage covers U2 Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 12:26:10 -0800 Anybody tape the Grammys last night? I totally spaced it, in fact didn't even know about it (head in the sand? I don't know). Anyway I am dying to see/hear the performance that Garbage did of U2's song Pride... I maintain a Garbage setlist website (www.garbagebase.com) and document and chronicle all of their performance activity. Somehow this live appearance went completely under my radar, and I'm sick about it! Any audio and/or video would be greatly appreciated. Thanks... Shark ------------------------------ From: "taperroy" Subject: FS: ONE CP-4 SHOTGUN CAP. Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 14:42:01 -0600 accepting offers for .... one immaculate cp-4 nakamichi shotgun cap. not a scratch on the thing! includes the long foam original windscreen also in perfect condition.... only have one cap available.... hate to loosen up on this.. but am in need of some cash!! paypal perferred~~~~ taperroy ------------------------------ From: "slowdivingblue ." Subject: wtd: philly fm taper, this sunday Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 21:53:08 +0000 hi - looking for someone who can record to minidisc or DAT something from y100 this sunday at 9PM (MAR 2): it is a segment with local musician john faye, who is releasing a new album very shortly. i think there will be live performances and interviews. i believe it is an hour long, but i could be wrong about that. if you record it to minidisc, i need it you to send it to me on CDR. if you record it to DAT, i can just take the DAT, dat clone, or CDR. please email me if you can help me out. you can see my trading list here; i will trade 4CDs for anyone that can help me with this. please email me for my sizeable list of indie, alternative, britpop, shoegaze, etc. recordings. thanks in advance. _________________________________________________________________ STOP MORE SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: Todd Romero Subject: quantegy DAT vs Ampex DDS Date: Mon, 24 Feb 2003 17:39:08 -0500 (EST) hi, i was wondering if anyone has a consensus on which tape is better :) ive always been extremely loyal to the sony DGP's and never had a problem with them, until recently, since they changed they tape housing etc, and have been plagued with mis-loads and such. so im trying to find a new brand. i just got a box of the Quantegy R-124's, but the DDS tapes are _supposed_ to have more stingent manufacturing guidelines, so im wondering if the Ampex DDS tapes are better than the Quantegy. ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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