DAT-heads Digest #658
Contents:
Stephen Malkmus on radio in Seattle (Ted Mattes)
FS: CSB Core Sound Binaural Mics w/BB $175 ("Dan Mahoney")
GO TAPE THE STREETS!!! PLEEZE!!! (Delightful British Garage / (acffh)
Mac Audio Files on a PC (David Sadowski)
help needed - M1 problem ("SteveM")
Anyone get Eric Johnson 2-26? (Danny Thweatt)
Robert Hunter's taping policy? ("Gary Davis")
Anybody got any Bering Straits? ("Steve Smith")
With regards to taping blues artists: Mem Shannon ("Ian Blumgart")
+4 and +10 for vu meter range on shure mixers? (avps)
Re: +4 and +10 for vu meter range on shure mixers? (Todd Romero)
Re: help needed - M1 problem (Todd Romero)
Yeah Yeah Yeah's - Sheffield 25/02/03 ("Wayne Ellis")
Nomad (support)
=?iso-8859-1?Q?Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers_-_Italian_shows?= ("=?iso-8859-1?Q?ituim?=")
Digital audio device recommendations please... (Ian Beeby)
King Crimson 2/28 Asheville - Anybody Taping? (celticbro)
From: Ted Mattes <tedmattes@yahoo.com>
Subject: Stephen Malkmus on radio in Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 11:05:49 -0800 (PST)
On Tuesday I attended the great Stephen Malkmus
NoisePop show at Bimbo's in San Francisco. They
mentioned that it was being recorded and
b'cast/webcast on KEXP in Seattle. Did anyone happen
to get that?
thanks,
t
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From: "Dan Mahoney" <mahoney@cros.net>
Subject: FS: CSB Core Sound Binaural Mics w/BB $175
Reply-To: "Dan Mahoney" <mahoney@cros.net>
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:25:10 -0500
Selling my unused Core Sound Mics.
These are the Binaural mics with the Battery Box.
These have the mic-clips too.
Used to record maybe a dozen shows over past couple years.
$175 OBO
Contact me with any questions
Thanks!
Dan Mahoney
From: acffh <morst@tds.net>
Subject: GO TAPE THE STREETS!!! PLEEZE!!! (Delightful British Garage /
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:03:19 -0600
THE STREETS (Mike Skinner and company) will be playing a short USA
tour. PLEASE GO TAPE THEM!!!
I don't know if open recording is allowed, I will write to the
management and if I find any specifics I will post them here.
I will be covering the Chicago show, I will want to trade for any of
the other shows THE STREETS plays on this (or any!) tour!!
thanks,
Tom
Madison WI
from: Vice Records
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The Streets: Upcoming Tour Dates and Ticket Information
TUESDAY
3/11
LA,
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Rey Theatre
WEDNESDAY
3/12
the Tonight
Show with Jay Leno
(free on TV!
check 'em out!)
FRIDAY
3/14
San Francisco,
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SATURDAY
3/15
Seattle,
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15&MP=False>Chop Suey
MONDAY
3/17
Chicago, Metro
(ON SALE NOW AT
TICKMASTER!!!! $20 with charges)
WEDNESDAY
3/19
New York,
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THURSDAY
3/20
Boston,
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SATURDAY
3/22
Miami,
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ventsID=4313&PGName=Ultra>Ultra Beach Festival
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From: David Sadowski <dsadowski@ameritech.net>
Subject: Mac Audio Files on a PC
Reply-To: dsadowski@ameritech.net
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:19:29 -0600
A well intentioned taper has sent me some files recently in hopes I can
work on them with a wave editor on my PC. Unfortunately they are Mac
files with an .aif extension. I can open them up in Cool Edit Pro, edit
them, and save them as wave files.
In the wave editor, the new files play perfectly. However, when I burn
them to a CD, there seems to be some sort of unexpected quality loss
happening. It reminds me of the sort of quality loss you get when
listening to streaming audio on the Internet sometimes.
My guess is that although I have saved the files as .wavs, there is
still some sort of compression or file conversion involved when burning,
and this is the source of the quality loss.
Can anyone offer some pointers?
Thanks.
From: "SteveM" <stevem@thenightowl.com>
Subject: help needed - M1 problem
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 15:35:19 -0600
I've got a problem with my M1 & was hoping that someone here may be able to
offer some suggestions on what to do about it. Over the last year or so,
maybe a little longer, I've noticed that the deck occasionally (not all the
time) doesn't like to rewind tapes, depending on how far into them I happen
to be. If I'm past the halfway mark, it seems to be OK, but sometimes it has
problems rewinding if I'm, say, 1/4 of the way into the tape. Again, not
always. I'm not sure if it's isolated to 90M tapes or not. Possibly so.
Last night, I went to see Eric Johnson. I went to unpack the tape (a new
Sony DGP-90) - no problem. FF'd & rewound to the beginning. When I hit
record to go forward for the first minute, I heard tape wrinkling inside the
deck. I hit stop & tried to unload the tape - nothing happened, it kept
"going thru the motions" for a minute or so, then turned itself off. Tried
it again - nothing. At this point, the tape is stuck inside the deck. I
tried removing the batteries (ie to do a 'cold boot') - no luck. All I got
when I put them back in was a flashing TOP on the display. After 3 tries, I
was able to get the tape to load (so I thought), I hit record, set the hold
button, & went in the venue. Once I got inside, I got set up, checked
levels, everything looked good, and proceeded to enjoy the show. I left the
deck running till I got back to the car, checked the display & said that I
had been recording for about 2:23:00 or so. I got home, got the tape out of
the M1, put it in my DA-40. There was no absolute time reading on the tape
at all, essentially a blank tape. A frustrating experience to say the least.
Is there any possibility that the tape is still OK and that I did somehow
manage to get a recording of the show?
The deck is still within the 5 year warranty period (altho, there are only
about 3 months left) and has never been serviced before. If it does need
service (I'm thinking it may be the transport), any recommendations on where
to send it?
Any help with either/both of these issues will be greatly appreciated...
Thanks!
Steve
From: DannyThweatt@webtv.net (Danny Thweatt)
Subject: Anyone get Eric Johnson 2-26?
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 16:17:35 -0600 (CST)
Was in the process of getting a nice recording of Eric Johnson last
night in St. Louis when an anti-taping nazi grabbed me, tried to break
my gear, and made me stop taping. He kept saying "give me your
videotape" as he clutched my 2" x 2" MD player.
I have the first 66 minutes on MD and it sounds great, but security
took my second MD. Did anyone get the whole show?
Also, does anyone know if a venue has the right to seize your personal
property; i.e. gear?
Before we were let in they specifically mentioned no video taping, but
nothing was said about audio. I didn't know that EJ was anti-taper. I
guess I should have done some research. :)
Have a nice day, Danny
Check out Sanctified Press:christian
rock,apologetics,poetry,ranting,etc...
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From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Robert Hunter's taping policy?
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 14:31:59 -0800
Does anyone know Robert Hunter's taping policy?
He is playing at the Lebanon, NH Opera House on Sat. March 15
for Phil Lesh's Birthday and I have heard that there will be some
surprises and to definetly get a tape of THAT show.
From: "Steve Smith" <whoisstevekimock@hotmail.com>
Subject: Anybody got any Bering Straits?
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 17:31:08 -0500
Saw them on 60 Minutes, was wondering if there was any tape...
Anyone?
From: "Ian Blumgart" <iblumgar@accmail.umd.edu>
Subject: With regards to taping blues artists: Mem Shannon
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 18:41:24 -0500
Mem Shannon (http://www.memshannon.com/) is a tremendous blues artist
and he does allow taping! His band is just starting a tour in
California with other western states to follow. Catch him if you can!
> From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
> Subject: Re: BB King taping
> Date: Wed, 26 Feb 2003 12:58:24 -0800
>
> Without checking, I can all but guarantee the taping a BB King show is
> not allowed. I have seen him numerous times between 1972 and 3 or 4
> years ago, and never saw a mike stand. I've seen numerous shows of
> major blues artists, and to my knowledge none allow taping. The only
> blues artist I can think of that may allow taping is Alvin Youngblod
> Hart.
From: avps <avps@erols.com>
Subject: +4 and +10 for vu meter range on shure mixers?
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2003 23:12:10 -0500
anybody know what this switch is for? it is on shure 68 and 267
mixers. it is for the vu meter only. +10 setting causes the meter to
increase signal strength. does not effect audio level i/o. is there a
nominal/industry standard setting? thx
From: Todd Romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: Re: +4 and +10 for vu meter range on shure mixers?
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:22:33 -0500 (EST)
u sure its not +4dB and -10dB ? those are the 2 standard line level
inputs. +4dBu is what pro gear is rated at, and -10dBu for consumer gear.
for example, the apogee ad-1000 has 2 line input settings, +4 and -10
supposed to be set depending on the line level thats feeding it.
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, avps wrote:
> anybody know what this switch is for? it is on shure 68 and 267
> mixers. it is for the vu meter only. +10 setting causes the meter to
> increase signal strength. does not effect audio level i/o. is there a
> nominal/industry standard setting? thx
>
From: Todd Romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: Re: help needed - M1 problem
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 03:47:12 -0500 (EST)
first of all, you shouldnt be using 90m tapes in an M1/D100. the manual
even specifically advises against it and says there could be problems.
the second issue is with the newer Sony DGP tapes. i think they say DDS-2
in them now? (were DDS-1) they suck and have loading problems. the _exact_
thing happened to me as you described below. (cept i was using a 60m) took
forever to load, then every time i tried to start the tape, it would
flash unload then top, then load etc. finally it started to record and
looked fine. but when i tried to playback.. nothing. thats just one issue
ive had with the new sony dgp's. needless to say ive quickly changed
brands.
your deck is fine.
On Thu, 27 Feb 2003, SteveM wrote:
> I've got a problem with my M1 & was hoping that someone here may be able to
> offer some suggestions on what to do about it. Over the last year or so,
> maybe a little longer, I've noticed that the deck occasionally (not all the
> time) doesn't like to rewind tapes, depending on how far into them I happen
> to be. If I'm past the halfway mark, it seems to be OK, but sometimes it has
> problems rewinding if I'm, say, 1/4 of the way into the tape. Again, not
> always. I'm not sure if it's isolated to 90M tapes or not. Possibly so.
>
> Last night, I went to see Eric Johnson. I went to unpack the tape (a new
> Sony DGP-90) - no problem. FF'd & rewound to the beginning. When I hit
> record to go forward for the first minute, I heard tape wrinkling inside the
> deck. I hit stop & tried to unload the tape - nothing happened, it kept
> "going thru the motions" for a minute or so, then turned itself off. Tried
> it again - nothing. At this point, the tape is stuck inside the deck. I
> tried removing the batteries (ie to do a 'cold boot') - no luck. All I got
> when I put them back in was a flashing TOP on the display. After 3 tries, I
> was able to get the tape to load (so I thought), I hit record, set the hold
> button, & went in the venue. Once I got inside, I got set up, checked
> levels, everything looked good, and proceeded to enjoy the show. I left the
> deck running till I got back to the car, checked the display & said that I
> had been recording for about 2:23:00 or so. I got home, got the tape out of
> the M1, put it in my DA-40. There was no absolute time reading on the tape
> at all, essentially a blank tape. A frustrating experience to say the least.
>
> Is there any possibility that the tape is still OK and that I did somehow
> manage to get a recording of the show?
>
> The deck is still within the 5 year warranty period (altho, there are only
> about 3 months left) and has never been serviced before. If it does need
> service (I'm thinking it may be the transport), any recommendations on where
> to send it?
>
> Any help with either/both of these issues will be greatly appreciated...
> Thanks!
>
> Steve
>
From: "Wayne Ellis" <we1@jennic.com>
Subject: Yeah Yeah Yeah's - Sheffield 25/02/03
Reply-To: <we1@jennic.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 10:00:28 -0000
I have this up for trade
Yeah Yeah Yeah's
================
Date Location Source Length
25/02/03 The Leadmill, Sheffield UK. Aud 65m
4 rows back, ECM727P->D100
can trade DAT, and cdr/shn/flac for your master clones
thanks
Wayne
From: support <support@preciseaudio.com>
Subject: Nomad
Reply-To: support <support@preciseaudio.com>
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 09:00:14 -0300
Hi!
It's been some time, probably more than a year, that I have been
following and looking for comments on the Nomad as a reliable tool for
field work.
The application I would like to implement using it is location audio
for film & TV. As some of you probably know, we come from 1/4" tape as
our first industry standard, later changed to DAT.
Present times are something of a nowhere land, as DAT machines options
are diminishing (particularly SMPTE sync capable) and no universal
media has yet been established.
MD is an excellent option too, even if it does not support SMPTE. But
it keeps sync for a long time, it's cheap (do prefer consumer types
to those made by HHB and Marantz), disc prizes are incredibly low and
now can be found everywhere, and it's great for dialogue. A great tool
for backup and even first unit on very low budget projects.
Above units have become professional standards, because you can trust
them.
Lost samples or producing a pop or click it's absolutely unacceptable
for our kind of work, so I don't yet see a Nomad as a reliable pro
tool. Newer firmwares come often, but I don't know why they can't cure
that reliability problem.
Carlos E. Martinez
PRECISION AUDIO PRODUCTS INC.
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From: "=?iso-8859-1?Q?ituim?=" <ituim@email.it>
Subject: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Red_Hot_Chili_Peppers_-_Italian_shows?=
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:55:23 +0100
Hi,=0D=0A=0D=0AI've got the following shows for trade.=0D=0A=0D=0AFilaforum, Milano, Italy 30/1/2003 =0D=0ACSmic > TCD 100 > 2cdr =0D=0A=0D=0APalaghiaccio Marino, Roma, Italy 2/2/2003=0D=0AAT853 > battery box > TCD-D7 > 2 cdr =0D=0A=0D=0AI'm looking for any RHCP shows I don't already have from the 2002/2003 tour. =0D=0AI'm also interested in recent Rolling Stones, Aerosmith, Ac/Dc.=0D=0A=0D=0AFor any questions feel free to contact me via email. =0D=0A=0D=0AThank you.=0D=0A=0D=0AMatt =0D=0A=0D=0Aituim@email.it=0D=0A=0D=0A=0D=0A
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From: Ian Beeby <ipb@networkl.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Digital audio device recommendations please...
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 12:19:29 +0000
Gentlefolk,
I have a Sony D7 DAT recorder with which I have been very pleased over
the past eight years. Remarkably, based on some of the submissions I
have read here, it is still functioning more or less perfectly.
I am now looking to do more with digital audio - specifically I am now
interested in getting audio that I have recorded on my DAT recorder into
shape to use as sound track material for DV movies. This may also mean
mixing in with microphone sources and even royalty-free music sources.
It may also require sample-rate conversion.
The application is purely non-commercial.
I have a Mac PowerBook G4 computer running OS X 10.2 (Jaguar).
My questions are this:
1/ Have any of you good people had any experience or heard comments
about the following digital audio devices:
a) Yamaha UW500 USB Audio/MIDI interface
b) Tascam US224 USB Control Surface and 24-bit audio
interface
c) emagic EMI 6=A62m USB Multichannel Audio Interface
2/ Have you any recommendations for suitable audio software (to
allow mixing and, ideally, sample-rate conversion (at least between 44.1
and 48 K at 16-bit))? I am only interested in Stereo at this stage.
3/ Have you any better suggestions for input/output devices? My
basic criterion would be that it should be able to input and output in
half-speed DAT (32KHz at 12-bit), 44.1KHz at 16-bit and 48KHz at 16-bit
as a minimum.
The web site where I found the Tascam device refers to a package called
Cakewalk - is this a high-end pro package?
I think that what I am looking for is a high-end consumer or low-end pro
package - ideally not costing much. Since I am looking only at stereo
and 16-bit I presume (foolishly?) that I should be able to manage with
an LE version of a good package.
Your comments and sound advice would be much appreciated.
Best Regards
Ian Beeby
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From: celticbro <celticbro@yahoo.com>
Subject: King Crimson 2/28 Asheville - Anybody Taping?
Date: Fri, 28 Feb 2003 04:27:35 -0800 (PST)
Hey there,
Is anybody taping KC at the Orange Peel in Asheville
tonight? Hopefully this message will make the digest
before this evening. If not, and somebody has already
done that show, I will have Atlanta 3/1 to trade for
later.
Thanks.
Peace and Cat Food,
Brian
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