DAT-heads Digest #664, Volume #6 Thu, 6 Mar 03 04:50:01 EST Contents: Datsuns 23/09/02 Barfly, Sheffield + DSAT stuff ("Wayne Ellis") Core Sund's portable-I'm impressed (Keith Bode) Hookah Brown tour ex Crowes (Alfred Ritter) ISO: kathleen edwards (Kowrzesz@aol.com) X-Y configuration question @ Crystal Ballroom ("Chris Mcgrath") FS: 2 complete AD1000's with accessories ("brian durham") ISO: Stealth Taper in Easton, MD ( March 16th or 17th) ("- -") RE: SBD > pre amp > DAT ? ("Stanley W. Smith") FS: Sony A7 DAT recorder (koltovphili@earthlink.net) Monte Montgomery Tree Update: SHN Now Available ("Brian Sleeman") Kansas City Taper, March 15th NEEDED "Ragtime Festival" The (JH) Taping at Irving Plaza? ("Tony Guagliardo") Atlanta tapers: 99x brodcasting Coldplay Thur 3/6 (jcarvalh) zwan ("Matt Korman") FS: Reel to Reel Tascam 34 B (Keith Bode) interested in bardo pond tapers - please read if you're taping GYBE ("cory rayborn") Toad The Wet Sprocket (TheSchoolNerd@aol.com) Re: X-Y configuration question @ Crystal Ballroom (Seth Breidbart) ISO: U2 taper Michael Coates from WI...please help! ("Kimmo ") Taping with CSB's and M1 ("Gary Davis") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Wayne Ellis" Subject: Datsuns 23/09/02 Barfly, Sheffield + DSAT stuff Reply-To: Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 15:28:54 -0000 I have the following DAT master up for trade Datsuns ======= Date Location Source Length 23/09/02 The barfly, Sheffield, UK Aud 63 I also have DSAT Datsuns recordings of 01/05/02 John Peel session, xx/09/02 Evening session tracks 06/12/02 'Later' with Jools Holland (TV(NICAM)) 01/02/03 Academy 1, Manchester, UK. can trade DAT, and cdr/shn/flac for your master clones. thanks Wayne ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Core Sund's portable-I'm impressed Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 07:37:32 -0800 I wanted to say just looking at Len's new Core sound portable recorder, I am impressed. The feature I'm really impressed with is the fact that this unit is able to stor data in .wav format. In reviewing many digital studio pieces, let alone protables, it's hard to find a recorder that clearly, up front states that the data is saved in.wav format. Obviusly the recording ont memory stick has advantges, such as n moving parts. One future dream configuration woould be to have a recording unit that hold either a physically linked recording bay or a SPDIF connecte bay that woould hold multipls, lets say 4 2 gb memory cards, that woould sense when the last 15 secnds or so of recording on each card was being reached, then duplicate the last 15 secnds on the first card ending, and the next card beginning, so entire concerts coould be recroded and provide seamlessly spliced sections. That would be an interesting, and highly useful upgaade to a splendid recording device. I applaud the coding system used, and technology going into the creatin of such a device from the start. Using WAV format instead of Mackie, or any other manufacturers proprietary coding system ia in my eyes, a clearly huge benefit. Hpefully in real world use this unist will not have dropped sample and other problems that have plaged ter devices. ------------------------------ From: Alfred Ritter Subject: Hookah Brown tour ex Crowes Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 07:57:07 -0800 (PST) Just a heads up for everyone. Hookah Brown is back on the road for their second mini tour. Hookah Brown is ex Black Crowes guitarist Rich Robinson's new band. They are much more in the vien of the Crowes than his brothers band. They do a few Crowes tunes some cover and some great orginals. If your able to tape anyone of these please contact me. 03/05/03 Atlanta, GA The Cotton Club 03/06/03 Greenville, SC The Handlebar 03/07/03 Knoxville, TN Blue Cat's 03/08/03 Jackson, MS Hal & Mal's 03/09/03 Nashville, TN Exit Inn 03/11/03 Little Rock, AR Sticky Fingers 03/13/03 Austin, TX Fox & Hound (SXSW) 03/14/03 Dallas, TX Galaxy Club 03/15/03 Oklahoma City, OK Classic Rock Café 03/17/03 St. Louis, MO The Galaxy 03/19/03 Indianapolis, IN Birdy's 03/20/03 Chicago, IL Double Door 03/21/03 Ferndale, MI Magic Bag 03/22/03 Cleveland, OH The Odeon __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Tax Center - forms, calculators, tips, more http://taxes.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Kowrzesz@aol.com Subject: ISO: kathleen edwards Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 11:11:59 -0500 ISO: Any kathleen edwards shows, possibly from this last tour, furthermore any nyc shows (joe's pub/village underground). Can trade or bp. Please reply in person to: kowrzesz@aol.com Thanks in advance and for the bw. Kaz ------------------------------ From: "Chris Mcgrath" Subject: X-Y configuration question @ Crystal Ballroom Reply-To: "Chris Mcgrath" Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 08:18:42 -0800 OK, I'll try to make this as understandable as possible. 1. Do your capsules have to be in the same place, meaning that one has to be directly above the other? 2. Or....Can you still record X-Y with the mics level but with the caps almost touching in a 90 degree angle? I'm going to be taping DSO this Friday @ The Crystal Ballroom here in Portland and trying a 3 Nak mix. 2 cp1 cards in a X-Y position & a 3rd cp1 pointing straight ahead. Might seem like overkill but I don't have the shotguns & it's also an experiment with running 3 mics. Any suggestions or answers to the X-Y answer are appreciated. Thanks, Chris BWT: B&P for any show on my list below. http://phishhook.yi.org/lists/ODJubilee ------------------------------ From: "brian durham" Subject: FS: 2 complete AD1000's with accessories Reply-To: durham_b@msn.com Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 12:51:33 -0500 hey now, i have 2 ad1000's that i am looking to sell. both have wooden boxes, breakout cables, batteries, and chargers. one battery set includes 12v eco charge (2) and chargers the other battery set has 2 powersonic batteries and charges (for specific amp/hrs. please write) one ad1000 has never had any problems, and has not needed to be serviced. the other has had a new word clock, and recently a new digital circuit board, and has received a 1 year warranty from apogee, and a clean bill of health. the only reasons i'm selling these is to get smaller (stealthy). i don't intend to be in a section much, where one has the luxury for large batteries and bags. i'd consider a cash + trade or out right trade for either an HHB PDR1000 deck or maybe a sony bit muncher. any and all inquires welcome. no asking price to start. going where the climate suits my clothes, -bry dat list: http://www.geocities.com/jadedphan/datlist.html cd-r list: http://db.etree.org/jadedphan _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "- -" Subject: ISO: Stealth Taper in Easton, MD ( March 16th or 17th) Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 18:16:56 +0000 Hi, if you're able to go and tape one or both show at Avalon Theatre - Easton, MD on March 16th/17th please reply privately for details! I'll pay for concert ticket, blanks and beverages. Or I can trade (have lots low gen for trade, different artists. I can do DVD-Rs too, for example Peter Gabriel 2002 shows, Bruce Springsteen, etc). Thanks for the help! Nas _________________________________________________________________ MSN Search, le moteur de recherche qui pense comme vous ! http://search.msn.fr/worldwide.asp ------------------------------ From: "Stanley W. Smith" Subject: RE: SBD > pre amp > DAT ? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 12:26:48 -0600 Uh-h-h-h-m-mmm . . . The V2 _doesn't do A>D, so all you're really doing here is risking an expensive mic pre by using it as a cable adapter and attenuating input levels to the deck. The V2 will accept a very hot input signal, but if you were to "accidentally" plug into a true +4 or +10 SBD output you could easily let the magic smoke out of your microphone preamp. =| A better solution would be to use some in-line attenuators and wire up an adapter cable from XLR > 1/8" mini to match input levels and impedances for your deck. Much cheaper than a new V2, and a lot more portable... Stan Smith ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "skomp" Subject: RE: SBD > pre amp > DAT ? Date: Tue, 4 Mar 2003 10:09:04 -0600 >>>>I have seen people using preamps at the sound board I 've seen sources like this: SBD > Lunatec V2 > DAT SBD > preamp > DAT How come people are doing this? What are the advantages or disadvantages? =================================================================== i've done it simply just to get the XLR inputs to patch in a D7/D8..... or to get better A/D conversion from something like a V2 over the internal A/D on the Sony the disadvantage is always that it's another device to deal with - but more often than not you'll want to use something inbetween the SBD and a plain old DAT, esp a D7/D8...... --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.435 / Virus Database: 244 - Release Date: 12/30/2002 ------------------------------ From: koltovphili@earthlink.net Subject: FS: Sony A7 DAT recorder Reply-To: koltovPhili@earthlink.net Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 11:30:05 -0500 (EST) I am selling my Sony A7 DAT recorder in it's original box. It needs repairs, but not sure what it needs. I will throw in free my entire collection of DAT tapes (all high quality tapes), mostly Grateful Dead and JGB and Phish tapes (over 100 tapes), and analog tapes (over 100 tapes); I don't have them cataloged unfortunately. Satisfaction guaranteed, if you are not satisfied with with transaction, send it all back and don't pay. I am asking $500 obo. You pay actual shipping and you pay balance after you receive shipment. Michael Dolich koltovphili@earthlink.net 215-247-5727 ------------------------------ From: "Brian Sleeman" Subject: Monte Montgomery Tree Update: SHN Now Available Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 16:21:34 -0500 Just as the subject says, the SHN version of the Monte Montgomery "Acoustic Whirlwind" compilation is now available for registrations at the following URL: http://www.neil-rocks.de/mm.html Those who have already signed up for regular audio CDs will be accommodated should they decided to change to the SHN version; please see the above URL for that procedure as well. Thanks. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: JH Subject: Kansas City Taper, March 15th NEEDED "Ragtime Festival" The Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 15:37:08 -0600 Kansas City Taper, March 15th NEEDED "Ragtime Festival" The Wilders Oldtime/Bluegrass/Country I will compensate a taper for ticket(s) to record this excellent band, The Wilders at the following KC engagement: Make plans now to attend our concert for Kansas City Ragtime Revelry, MARCH 15, 7:30 pm, at Community Christian Church. We will share the bill with David Thomas Roberts, a ragtime pianist. We plan to do a little sharing of the spotlight with him too, and you'll just have to come find out what that means! Those of you in Kansas City know that we rarely have an opportunity to perform for the home crowd. You can wait to buy tickets at the door, but you might want to order them ahead of time, in case it's SOLD OUT!! So, here's how you can do that: Call: 816-691-8781 / write: dianecapps@juno.com Or you can order them by mail (write checks to KCRR): Kansas City Ragtime Revelry 3535 Genessee Kansas City, MO 64111-3941 Tickets are $15 ($10 for students) Or, you can get tickets in person at Mountain Music Shoppe, on Johnson Drive in Shawnee, KS (913-962-9711 for directions). Venue information: Community Christian Church 4601 Main Street (free covered, lighted parking just south of the church) KC MO ("the Frank Lloyd Wright church") If you can record this show for me--they are taper friendly if you let me set it up beforehand--I'll pay your way in, etc. Please drop me a line, Jonathan ------------------------------ From: "Tony Guagliardo" Subject: Taping at Irving Plaza? Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 17:32:03 -0500 Hey gang. Anybody tape at Irving Plaza (NYC) in the last few months? I hear they have metal detectors in place now. The wand type. Anybody have problems getting gear past these things? I plan on taping Soundtrack Of Our Lives there in a few weeks. Tony ------------------------------ From: jcarvalh Subject: Atlanta tapers: 99x brodcasting Coldplay Thur 3/6 Reply-To: jcarvalh Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:02:55 -0500 (EST) Hey Atlanta tapers! Can someone pickup this 99x feed for me? Coldplay live from Duluth tomorrow (3/6). Highly appreciated and I would provide a blank DAT and a pick from my list... thanks! --- Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Matt Korman" Subject: zwan Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 19:26:52 -0000 So what exactly is Zwan's taping policy ?? Anyone know who to ask for if I have trouble at the Door ?? Like to hear from anyone who has taped them, so I know what to expect. thanks Matt ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: FS: Reel to Reel Tascam 34 B Date: Wed, 05 Mar 2003 17:29:08 -0800 I was looking to buy a reel to reel deck to have the capability to do Reel to digital transfers. I went overboard. I bought a 4 channel 10.5 inch reel, 7.5 and 15 IPS Tascam 34B. This is more like a 4 channel mastering deck with 1/4" tape. The deck is being shipped from Sacramento to Long Beach now. This deck has a retail price in excess of $3000 and is suppsed to be in great shape. I guess my eyes were bigger than my common sense. If anyone has a burning desire to get a deck of this quality, I would be happy to breakeven, and buy a deck that more appropriately meets my needs, and doesn't break me as badly, $325 plus shipping, which is dirt cheap for a deck like this. I sell some stuff to pay the bills, then buy something like this on impulse..... Keith ------------------------------ From: "cory rayborn" Subject: interested in bardo pond tapers - please read if you're taping GYBE Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 21:53:33 -0500 hi - i run bardo pond's webpage and am in charge of trying to keep their archives as up to date as possible. they're off on the road with godspeed you black emperor over the next couple of weeks and i was wondering if anyone is planning on taping their opening set at any of the following shows - Fri 14 March - Forth Worth - Ridglea Theater Sun 16 March - St. Louis - Mississippi Nights Mon 17 March - Columbia - Blue Note Tue 18 March - Omaha - Music Box Thu 20 March - Chicago - Abbey Pub Fri 21 March - Cleveland - Grog Shop [with Mary Timony - NOT with Godspeed] if you think you might be, please get in touch as i'd love to set up a trade. the band is completely cool with taping, be it audience or soundboard (i can't speak for gybe and board access but i know they're cool with audience), and if you need any sort of contact, i can hook you up. thanks! cory ------------------------------ From: TheSchoolNerd@aol.com Subject: Toad The Wet Sprocket Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:09:05 EST Will one of "all the young dudes" who taped Toad at Irving Plaza on Tuesday kindly contact me at SendItOver@aol.com? I had to leave TWENTY minutes into their performance and desperately want to hear what I missed. Thank you. D ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: X-Y configuration question @ Crystal Ballroom Date: Wed, 5 Mar 2003 23:31:02 -0500 (EST) > 1. Do your capsules have to be in the same place, meaning that one has to > be directly above the other? Ideally, they're in the exact same place. Unfortunately, that isn't possible. If you're going to mix to mono (e.g. for a vinyl record or FM), one above the other is better, for timing reasons. Otherwise, one next to the other is just about as good. Seth ------------------------------ From: "Kimmo " Subject: ISO: U2 taper Michael Coates from WI...please help! Date: Thu, 06 Mar 2003 02:02:59 -0500 Hi Dat heads, does anyone on this list know the new email address of U2 taper Michael Coates from Milwaukee WI area? His previous email was: idordowne@earthlink.net Michael if you read this please get in touch asap with Tom in Europe at this email address: datguy111@yahoo.com If anyone knows Michael's new email address please send his new email address asap to me or to Tom at: datguy111@yahoo.com Thanks in advance, Kimmo -- _______________________________________________ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup Meet Singles http://corp.mail.com/lavalife ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Taping with CSB's and M1 Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2003 01:09:09 -0800 Use manual level, use the LINE INPUT, and set the level to "10". For louder bands or closer to the speakers, I set the level to "7". You probably won't get full volume from the balcony, but with DAT it doesn't matter - and most importantly - you do NOT have to keep checking the levels while you're rolling. This is a MUST to get away with a King Crimson tape. In fact, I wouldn't recommend looking at the levels even once, just trust this method. Use 44.1K. KC could play close to 2 hours, so you can't start the tape too early. But for longer shows, I recommend 90meter - 3 hour dat tapes. Also, practice starting the recorder before going to the show. You should have it in "hold" for the trip. When you're ready to record, take it out of hold and count to 5 or 10 for it to load the tape (I count to 5 on the D8 but the M1 is slower). If you hit "record" while it's still loading, this can jam the tape. After the count of 10, there are several ways to get it into record mode. Here's one that doesn't require pressing two buttons at the same time: (this works for all Sony portable decks): Push Record, then Pause, then Pause. The easiest way to tell it is recording, if you can see the display, is you will see the "index" light flashing for the first 10 seconds. If you see this flashing, you know for sure you are recording. There is no need to look at any other indicator. Also, don't forget that Alkaline batteries don't last very long in an M1 or D100. Use the rechargable batteries that come with it (NiMh), or Nicads for short shows, or Eveready Lithium AA's for long shows (up to 7 hours). --Gary ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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