DAT-heads Digest #733
Contents:
ISO Martin Gore May 2 2003 London (GaoBest@aol.com)
Re: Stealth Mic Recommendations? (royalrepis@attbi.com)
DJ Logic This Sunday! Someone pls tape?!? ("Ian Stone")
Re: Stealth Mic Recommendations? ("Degrado, Rob")
dsm6s-L ("lee b")
need Monterey Pop Radio Show CDs (1988) ("John R. Vanderpool")
recomendations/help ("sue")
Re: recomendations/help (Seth Breidbart)
Oktava MC012 microphones ("Chuck Miller")
message for Dave XJAKSTRAWX@aol.com ("Marcello")
Regarding my post about Sonic Studios Mics (KindTaper@aol.com)
Iso: Sparta/Get Up Kids/Kings of Convenience (KindTaper@aol.com)
digigram (Michael P Murphy)
Vinesh Narayan ("Digital Ambience")
ISO: Anthrax in Philadelphia, May 6, 2003 ("Patrick Krause")
From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: ISO Martin Gore May 2 2003 London
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 16:15:45 EDT
SSIA - trade or B&P? I have very little Depeche Mode but have loads other pop
dance rock DATs, etc. Can email list. "It's for a friend" :-)
Many thanks in advance
Mike
bwt: B&P ADULT. performance May 7 2003 Bottom of the Hill CDR, Sonic Studios
& M1 - caveat: I haven't really heard this, so have no idea how it really
sounds. Brutal! single CDR, easy.
From: royalrepis@attbi.com
Subject: Re: Stealth Mic Recommendations?
Date: Fri, 09 May 2003 20:50:57 +0000
Thought I would add someting about the post from Mr. Lomardo on the Stealth Mic
Reccommendations. I agree that the Kind Taper should have given more thought on
his choice in microphone selection, as in which specific DSM model mic set to
purchase. On the other hand I do also see the Kind Tapers side of the fence on
this issue as well. Let's face it Mr. Lombardo's products may be good but
quality most certainly does come at a rather steep price for panasonic capsule
microphones from Sonic Studios. Gees, Kind Taper already had a good amount of
money invested in his mic setup through Sonic Studios. So now Mr. Lombardo
suggest's that he purchase the overpriced PA-6LC3B filter for $200.00, and
possibly upgrade to the DSM-6S/EL for an additional $600.00. Let's see that
would be $800.00 dollars so far and add to that the set that Kind Taper already
purchased for $450.00.
I have often wondered why Mr. Lombardo can't just make a good set of all around
omni's such as the Core Sound Binaurals. Instead of having to spend $400.00 on
one set and then drop another $600.00 on another set just to be able to record
loud concerts, and yet another $200.00 for a Sonic battery module. When for
$260.00 you can get 1 set of Core Sound Binaurals with a switchable bass roll
off & battery box that will not distort at high spl's. realistically, for $180
more dollars than what you could get the DSM-6s/EL's and a PA-6LC3B filter for,
at around $980 you could get the High-End Binaural Microphone Set at Core Sound
which comes with a switchabe bass roll off and battery box. This set utilizes
the highly praised DPA4060 and DPA4061 miniature omnidirectional's.
I have heard recordings made with Sonic Studios microphones and they sounded
great, so I know the Sonic Studios microphones are an excellent choice. My
whole beef is the price you are paying for panasonic capsuled microphones seems
like it should be significantly lower than $600.00 dollars for a set of mic's.
And if I could have afforded it, I would have splurged and gotten the DSM-
6S/EL, and one of your $1,000.00 dollar preamp's, but I just couldn't swing
it.
Mr. Lombardo did you ever stop to think that Wes the Kind Taper may not have an
extra $800.00 in spare change just lying around his house to get the products
that you suggested to him. Some of the taper people that I know are operating
on shoe string budgets and just don't have that kind of money to throw around
to get into the whole recording thing.
I would like to suggest that Mr. Lombardo should look into making a new set of
DSM mic's for all around applications and price them to sale at around $250 to
$300.00 dollar range. He may find more of a market for this type of product
and be surprised at how well they sale, rather than limiting his products and
concentrating on specialty high and low sens. mic's. Still continue to make all
the other models but include a new model as discussed above for all of us poor
working people who have to work within their prospective budgets.
I am not affiliated with Core Sound, nor am I trying to push their products. I
was merely using the Core Sound brand as a means of comparison.
From: "Ian Stone" <istone626@earthlink.net>
Subject: DJ Logic This Sunday! Someone pls tape?!?
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 14:59:00 -0700
If anyone out there in the NYC area could go out and tape this for me, it'd
be much appreciated. I have lots to trade. istone626@earthlink.net
Peace, Ian Stone
the project logic mothers day reunion: dj logic gets back together
with his old touring band - casey benjamin (rhodes, sax); $mike wietman
(keys); lamont macaine (bass) and stephen roberson (drums) plus special
guests. one time only show. doors at 8. two long sets. a night to remember?
surely!
it all goes down at the loveliest venue in brooklyn - southpaw! $10 in
advance, $12 day of show.
for more info, click here: http://www.spsounds.com
come on down and be a part of the project....one last time?
From: "Degrado, Rob" <Rob.Degrado@T-Mobile.com>
Subject: Re: Stealth Mic Recommendations?
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 15:22:29 -0700
From: GuySonic@aol.com
"Now you post that you get distortion with those crappie Sonic Studios mics!!!!"
I didn't see where Wes called his Sonic Studios crappy. Just looked like someone who was looking to upgrade his mics and wanted feedback. Are we not here for this?
"Thanks a lot for posting to a generally not well informed recording group and
spreading the ignorance further about unsatisfactory taping results (actually
with improperly configured for what you are now recording) system components."
'Generally not well informed recording group'?!? Thanks alot! We need vendors like this to keep us well informed?
"And you call yourself "kindtaper"!!!"
You insult and post private emails to this 'generally not well informed recording group" and call yourself a vendor?
Good luck retailing to the generally not well informed.
From: "lee b" <southsur@hotmail.com>
Subject: dsm6s-L
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 00:22:07 +0000
I have to agree with Leonard. These mics have rendered all the realism that
my Klipsch speakers could handle. (My car speakers were another matter, but
that's what CoolEdit is for.) I don't know where "up" would be from these
easily stealthable mics, for my money.
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From: "John R. Vanderpool" <fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: need Monterey Pop Radio Show CDs (1988)
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 20:26:13 -0400 (EDT)
looking for clones of the original broadcast discs - it was a 9CD set -
i have CD 7-9 but need 1-6 !!
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thanx,
fish
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From: "sue" <sue@un-creatively.net>
Subject: recomendations/help
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:18:40 -0400
I know this has probably already been asked about a million times, but since
I'm new I'm going to ask again.
I'm thinking about getting a DAT recorder, and I don't know what I should
get. I have experience with a mini disc recorder, and I want to start using
DAT. Also, what should I use in conjunction with a recorder (like, mics or
whatever.....) I'll want a recorder on the small side that can be hidden
relatively easily, if that's of any help. And finally, where do I purchase
these items? Most stores I've looked in don't have them, and when I ask
sales clerks they don't seem to know what I'm talking about. I don't really
have a price limit, but I want to get the best deal possible.
Thanks a lot.
Sue.
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: recomendations/help
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 21:52:02 -0400 (EDT)
> I'm thinking about getting a DAT recorder, and I don't know what I
> should get.
Right now, I'd wait for something like the Core Sounds Recorder.
> Also, what should I use in conjunction with a recorder (like, mics
> or whatever.....)
mics, power supply/preamp/a-d converter (1-4 boxes).
> I'll want a recorder on the small side that can be hidden
> relatively easily, if that's of any help.
I'd definitely go with the Core Sounds then, it's based on a Pocket PC
so should pass inspection.
> And finally, where do I purchase these items?
Dat decks are hard to find these days. I could send you (or anyone)
the Market Posting; many of the vendors listed probably still exist.
(I stopped updating it because there really isn't any new news about
dat decks.)
Seth
From: "Chuck Miller" <calicocourt@gbronline.com>
Subject: Oktava MC012 microphones
Reply-To: <chuckmiller@stones.com>
Date: Fri, 9 May 2003 22:36:38 -0600
Sorry for the off subject post.
Please contact me off list if you want to sell your Oktava MC012's.
Chuck Miller
calicocourt@gbronline.com
From: "Marcello" <masperini1@virgilio.it>
Subject: message for Dave XJAKSTRAWX@aol.com
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 08:34:49 +0200
Dave,
I can't reply to your email.
These recipients of your message have been processed by the mail server:
XJAKSTRAWX@aol.com; Failed; 5.1.2 (bad destination system address)
Let me know if you can use another email.
Marcello
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Regarding my post about Sonic Studios Mics
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 03:08:50 -0400
I apologize for taking up this space, but I would like the opportunity to clarify my recent post regarding stealth mic recommendations. From Mr. Lombardo's post, it seems that my inquiry has been regarded as a direct threat to both his business and the integrity of his microphones. On the contrary, I was simply asking if anyone had encountered the same problem that I had faced so many times; repeated bass distortion on tapes, and had they achieved better results with a different taping setup?
Now, I did say the following to Leonard, way too soon, after the *first* tape I made with the mics on 5/26/00:
<<I have about 10 or so more shows to tape between now and the second week of June. if they all turn out as good as tonight's tape, you are going to get a ton of free advertising>>
Did he ever get my support? No, and the reason was because I could never seem to consistently repeat the results I achieved the first night I used the DSM's. Yes, I have made some great tapes since purchasing the DSM mics, but they are few in comparison with the distorted tapes I have made.
Leonard said:
<<Now you post that you get distortion with those crappie Sonic Studios mics!!!!>>
He also said:
<<Thanks a lot for posting to a generally not well informed recording group>>
And, He also said:
<<And you call yourself "kindtaper"!!!>>
Nowhere in my post did I attack your mics, your company or you. I simply requested information from a diverse group of live recording enthusiasts, and the response from this
"generally not well informed" group was in excess of 35 people, all extremely knowledgeable in their suggestions of over a half-dozen different types of mics. Not in a single
e-mail did anyone give high accolades to the DSM mics and tell me I made a mistake in selling them.
In conclusion, if you have any questions about my e-mail address, why don't you ask one of the hundreds of people who have dealt with me, over almost 7 years of taping and trading. I guarantee you that the number of people with positive things to say about me will far outweigh the negative. Could the same be said about you?
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Iso: Sparta/Get Up Kids/Kings of Convenience
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 03:13:00 -0400
Would love to find any FM's or great audience tapes by these bands. I have masters to trade. Anyone in Europe get FM's of Sparta? I know At The Drive-In was popular there and I have an FM of them in London.
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
From: Michael P Murphy <gunkylol@earthlink.net>
Subject: digigram
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 04:17:20 -0400
Has anyone here used the Digigram Vxpocket laptop pc cards? I am more
interested in the 4 channel version, but the 2 channel version has
dropped to $199 at several on line sources. At the very least it
looks like an intriguing option for going digitally from a dat into
the laptop in a mobile package.
Thanks, Michael
From: "Digital Ambience" <digitalambience@hotmail.com>
Subject: Vinesh Narayan
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 13:22:21 -0400
Can you please get in touch with me. Haven't heard back in 8 months. Still
owed a show on DAT.
Sorry for the waste of bandwith.
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From: "Patrick Krause" <patrick.krause@verizon.net>
Subject: ISO: Anthrax in Philadelphia, May 6, 2003
Date: Sat, 10 May 2003 15:10:35 -0400
I'm looking for the Anthax show at the Electric Factory in Philly on May
6th, 2003. Please contact me for trade.
Thanks!
Patrick
patrick.krause@verizon.net
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