DAT-heads Digest #752, Volume #6 Wed, 28 May 03 17:50:00 EDT Contents: Wire & Delays (Klay Anderson) More on Processing (Klay Anderson) RE: HQ Cables ("Jamie Lutch") ISO: Metallica Live ("Patrick Krause") Calla (Aleal5687@cs.com) Re:Wanted: pair of used Coresound Cardioids ("lsc0560@earthlink.net") Sony DTC-690 down & out (ev) Vision Fest Tapers? (Ryan Gear) iso:audioslave ("alf") SP Goosenoose ("Bas Ruesink") ISO Lucinda at the Bowery Ballroom (h Grape Minkoff) FS: CSB mics & ISO: Sonosax SX-M2 preamp (Dirk Stelzer) NiMH batteries in M1/D100 ("Erik B") Maria McKee: very rare tour! East Coast, early June ("Craig F.") ISO New Monsoon tapers ("Hartman, Gary") recently taped shows (Andrew Fogelsong) WFUV Taper Request (Jeff Lester) WANTED: lowell george interviews (audio) ("John R. Vanderpool") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klay Anderson Subject: Wire & Delays Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:27:21 -0600 "Stephen Pzynski" Subject: HQ Cables? Asked of the snake oil salesmen: > Any recommendations for quality xlr-to-xlr cables in the 15 foot variety? I've > been looking at the Audio Magic but they may be a bit out of my price range. I > really need a pair that'll match each other to the same db frequency (or as > close as possible). This is one of the most innocent inquires that could turn ugly. First, wire is wire. Sure, constructed to one degree of success or another, but it passes electricity. Now, after more than 4 decades in the recording and PA biz, here is my theory. Once you get OFC cable (oxygen free copper) and slow-draw the strands and put it all in a nice durable jacket, you are at a price plateau. This pretty much is the Mogami-Canare level. Great cable, great price. We sell lots of it. Anything more is logarithmic and designed to only separate you and your bucks--you will have to spend one helluva lot of money for little (if any) sonic improvement. Now as far as fifteen feet of one wire having different response than another fifteen feet of the same cable, I submit it is impossible to inject logic into a totally illogical statement. We sell excellent cables as well a duplex snakes custom made with either brand and we use Neutrik connectors; inquire if interested. Now on to this: Subject: Soundboard/mic matrix help Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 08:46:29 -0400 > Hi all. I have the opportunity to run a matrix at a festival this week end > but have no experience with it. Can anyone recommend an inexpensive delay for > mics. "Cheap" delays are exactly that. Due to circuit topology that is price-driven, you will find that cheap delays have a real problem passing things like, say, audio. Rent a real stereo delay from a pro sound shop. Names like Lexicon and tcelectronics (sic) are popular. Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: More on Processing Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 16:30:18 -0600 I was pleased to see the intelligent discussion of my reference to how a digital recording can be screwed up. Much was brought up about compression and limiting and such. Although a bit technical and referring to radio processing, here is a nice article on what can go wrong there: http://www.broadcastpapers.com/radio/OmniaWhatHappens01.htm Thanks! -- Regards, Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com 1.800.FOR.KLAY ------------------------------ From: "Jamie Lutch" Subject: RE: HQ Cables Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 15:42:26 -0700 > > From: "Stephen Pzynski" > Subject: HQ Cables? > Date: Mon, 26 May 2003 18:05:20 -0500 > > Any recommendations for quality xlr-to-xlr cables in the 15 foot variety? > I've been looking at the Audio Magic but they may be a bit out of > my price > range. I really need a pair that'll match each other to the same db > frequency (or as close as possible). I'm open to the Audio > Magic's as well, > but am looking for someone else who carries them so I can compare pricing > and specs. I've only found one dealer so far. Any suggestions are > appreciated. > > Thanks, > Steve Keep in mind that most expensive xlrs are 'snake oil', and your money is much better spent on improving other parts of your rig. That said, canare star-quad is some pretty good cable, if you want to make it yourself, the cable is dirt cheap (34 cents/foot), and the xlrs are $2-$7 each depending on which you choose (silver plated/gold plated/straight etc). For most applications, the straight gold plated ends are the best ( If youre not a whiz with a soldering iron, they even have solderless ones (Part# NC3FEZY-P), but I havent tried these) the link for canare cable is here: www.markertek.com/MTstore/product.CFM?BaseItem=L-4E6S+BK the regular solder-type xlr cable ends are here: www.markertek.com/MTstore/product.CFM?BaseItem=NC3FX (note they have pictures of panel mount jacks, which is incorrect, the 'NC3 series are all cable ends) The straight ones are not too hard to solder, the right angles can be a bitch, but are worth it if you need em. It saves me a ton of space in my bag by having the v3 and ad2k sit down on the right angles, and theres no stress on the cables that way. and if you really dont feel like dealing with making your own there are websites that have pretty reasonable cables, made of the same materials, try searching google for 'xlr mic cables' ------------------------------ From: "Patrick Krause" Subject: ISO: Metallica Live Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 18:49:30 -0400 Hello all. I'm looking to trade for the recent Metallica shows (4) @ the Filmore in San Francisco. Please contact for trade list. Thanks, Patrick patrick.krause@verizon.net ------------------------------ From: Aleal5687@cs.com Subject: Calla Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 20:44:24 EDT Looking for people that have/might be taping Calla on their current tour They are cool with taping and would like a copy in return. sbd,mic stands are ok with the band but depend on the venue. Interested? Check out the tourdates and MP3's at http://www.callamusic.com Thanks Arnold ------------------------------ From: "lsc0560@earthlink.net" Subject: Re:Wanted: pair of used Coresound Cardioids Reply-To: lsc0560@earthlink.net Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:33:51 -0400 JOOST, To the contrary, I have not had very much luck recording "loud" music with= binaural mics=2E What's the proper method to use so that I don't get crackles? I am not sure, but I just assumed that the SPLs were just too much for the mics=2E Thanks, Les >From: "Joost" >Subject: Wanted: pair of used Coresound Cardioids >Date: Mon, 19 May 2003 22:31:55 +0200 > >Anybody here got a pair of Coresound cardioid mics in good condition that= >they want to sell? In my opinion they are the best mics for recording lou= d >rock shows, period=2E The ones I have are broken at the connection wire/= mic >(I think)=2E I hear quite a bit of crackle and rumbling while recording=2E= =2E=2E > >Thanks, greetings, > >JOOST ==================================================================== mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web=2Ecom/ =2E ------------------------------ From: ev Subject: Sony DTC-690 down & out Reply-to: ev Date: Tue, 27 May 2003 21:43:25 -0400 Anyone need one for parts or for a tape packer? I think the heads are shot. No offer refused, but you need to pick it up (10507) or pay for shipping. peace, further... e ------------------------------ From: Ryan Gear Subject: Vision Fest Tapers? Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 00:33:57 -0400 Jacob from the band Black Eyes asked me if I knew of anyone taping Vision Fest in NYC. He couldn't make it there since his band is currently on tour. so I thought I'd put a call out here for him. r. BWT: Ted Leo, Grog Shop, Cleveland, 02.20.03 Schoeps MK4>DZC20>MSTC>MP-2>Sharp MT-15 MD PS-I'm not trying to namedrop in this post, I'm just trying to track it down for him. ------------------------------ From: "alf" Subject: iso:audioslave Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 07:18:23 +0200 Any is taping the european tour? I'm looking also for a clean copy of their demos of 1st record. I've a copy but have some digiburst. Alf ------------------------------ From: "Bas Ruesink" Subject: SP Goosenoose Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:08:22 +0200 Hi, Seems like very handy this type of wire/mics, anyone using them?? http://www.soundprofessionals.com/images/gold/full/ISI-SGNM-1.jpg Bas _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: h Grape Minkoff Subject: ISO Lucinda at the Bowery Ballroom Reply-To: the_GrapeMan@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 06:06:51 -0700 (PDT) If anyone taped last night's show, please write to me off-list. Thanks, Grape http://thegrape.org __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: 520078325885-0001@t-online.de (Dirk Stelzer) Subject: FS: CSB mics & ISO: Sonosax SX-M2 preamp Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 15:10:13 +0200 since i upgraded to a pair of DPA 4061s i have no use for my CSB stealth mics anymore. i bought them in January 2001 directly from Core Sound so i'm the first owner. i got them new for approx. $380 (taxes and duty in Germany included). I have taken good care of so they are in very good condition technically. Optically they are fine and having stealthed about 25 shows with them they show hardly any wear apart from the paint rubbing off the clips a little. that's the package: -miniature CSB mics with removable clips -switchable battery box with 9V battery -windscreens -right angle adapter -receipt and customs declaration i'd prefer to sell this set to someone in Europe cause insured airmail shipping to other countries will be really expensive due to the high shipping costs. let's say the first European to pay 200 Euro has it shipped insured to the door. ...i'm also still looking for a used Sonosax SX-M2 preamp with manual. Thanks Dirk ------------------------------ From: "Erik B" Subject: NiMH batteries in M1/D100 Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:39:32 -0400 Has anybody ever done any tests of how long different milliamp-age NiMH batteries will run the M1/D100 with a correlation between the number of bars left in the LED? It's pretty misleading when a 2000 mA NiMH battery will power an M1 for 3+ hours but two of those hours are running on just one bar, etc. Or going in the other direction, how much time does one bar / two bars / etc really mean on these Sony decks? There are so many different factors (were the batteries discharged completely & then fully recharged, recharged and then sitting around for a while, etc) that I don't know if something like this could be very accurately done, but I'm hoping somebody has tried. Erik ------------------------------ From: "Craig F." Subject: Maria McKee: very rare tour! East Coast, early June Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 10:13:37 -0700 (PDT) Maria McKee (Lone Justice) is touring the East Coast in early June! She has a new solo, indie studio release, available at mariamckee.com. It's been many years since she's recorded and toured. She told No Depression this month that she enjoys live bootlegs, especially one by John Cale. Cheers, Craig F. Mon 06/09/03  Alexandria, VA, The Birchmere   Tue 06/10/03  Philadelphia, PA, North Star   Thu 06/12/03  Hoboken, NJ, Maxwell's   Fri 06/13/03  New York, NY, Village Underground   Sat 06/14/03  Boston, MA, Paradise Rock Club __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Calendar - Free online calendar with sync to Outlook(TM). http://calendar.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Hartman, Gary" Subject: ISO New Monsoon tapers Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 12:27:06 -0500 Greetings, I've just become the official archivist for the up & coming jamband New Monsoon (http://www.newmonsoon.com). First order of business is to make sure that a high quality tape is pulled for each show, so that's where I need your help. I can offer guest list +1 for the designated taper of each show. The band is in mid-tour right now, playing in the following cities over the next week or so: Trenton, NJ (tonight!); Burlington, VT (tomorrow!); Northampton, MA (Friday); Allston, MA (Sat); Landisburg, PA (6/4); State College, PA (6/5); Pittsburgh, PA (6/7). The full tour schedule is at http://www.jambase.com/search.asp?band=new+monsoon. Because the band is playing mostly bars at the moment, quality of the feed from the board (not to mention quality of the house engineers) is hit & miss. Therefore, priority goes to the volunteer who can bring out a decent audience rig. If you've got two decks, of course we'd love to get both board & aud sources, but the real key is a good audience tape. If you're interested in helping, please reply not to the digest but to: gary.hartman@tapirproductions.com. Thanks for your attention. Gary ------------------------------ From: Andrew Fogelsong Subject: recently taped shows Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 13:36:08 -0500 I haven't posted here in quite a while, so I thought I'd let it be known what shows I've taped this year. I wouldn't be suprised if I get overwelmed with offers, and in that case, will not entertain b&p requests. Unless noted otherwise, all shows were taped with a DSM-6S>PA-6LC3(usually 85Hz roll-off)>M1. More details are available on my trading list, which tends to look best if you have the text size set on medium. If you happen to know how to fix the problem that occurs when any other text size is used, shoot me an email. I'm clueless when it comes to html. Andrew Kenny(solo), Ben Gibbard(solo) - 1/24/03 Privilege; Austin, TX (have SBD recordings of both as well as AUD) I Love You But I've Chosen Darkness, Knife in the Water, ...Trail of Dead - 1/31/03 Emo's; Austin, TX Attack Formation, America Is Waiting, ...Trail of Dead - 2/1/03 Emo's; Austin, TX Interpol - 2/24/03 Emo's; Austin, TX Mates of State - 2/27/03 Emo's; Austin, TX (SBD) The Gadjits - 3/12/03 Emo's; Austin, TX Andrew Kenny(solo) - 3/12/03 Mercury; Austin, TX (SBD) Knife in the Water, Explosions in the Sky - 3/12/03 Mercury; Austin, TX Starflyer 59, Maserati - 3/13/03 Tower Records; Austin, TX The Prom, John Vanderslice, Nada Surf, Death Cab For Cutie - 3/13/03 Mother Egan's; Austin, TX (have both SBD and AUD of DCFC) Andrew Kenny(solo), Death Cab For Cutie - 3/14/03 Emo's; Austin, TX (SBD) Cat Power - 3/14/03 Stubb's; Austin, TX (have both SBD and AUD) Spoon, Yo La Tengo - 3/14/03 Stubb's; Austin, TX (SBD) Polyphonic Spree - 3/15/03 Austin Music Hall; Austin, TX The Reputation - 3/15/03 Friends; Austin, TX Explosions in the Sky - 3/29/03 Mercury; Austin, TX Postal Service - 4/7/03 Mercury; Austin, TX (SBD) Zwan - 4/14/03 Verizon Wireless Theater; Houston, TX Mono - 5/2/03 33 Degrees; Austin, TX (missed first couple minutes) Mono - 5/2/03 Emo's; Austin, TX Elliott Smith - 5/3/03 Steamboat; Austin, TX (SBD) Explosions in the Sky - 5/16/03 Emo's; Austin, TX (Schoeps CCM-4 > Sonosax SX-M2 > M1) Explosions in the Sky - 5/17/03 Fat Cat's(formally known as Mary Jane's); Houston, TX (Schoeps CCM-4 > Sonosax SX-M2 > M1) Nada Surf - 5/20/03 Emo's; Austin, TX phew! I've been busier this year than I thought. I still have ~10 shows to add to my trading list that I received in past week. Other than those, my trading list is up to date. Please pay attention to the want list. I try to not to steer clear of it, but I can. I'm not interested in all of the artists/bands I've taped or have recordings of. A good clue would be if I only have one or two shows and the band is not on my want list. cheers, Andrew http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palace/3941/list.html ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ From: Jeff Lester Subject: WFUV Taper Request Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 14:08:42 -0700 (PDT) Looking for somebody in NYC area to tape Michelle Shocked Thursday night on WFUV: www.wfuv.org says: Special! City Folk Live Member's Concert - Michelle Shocked performs live from Fordham University, Thursday 8pm. I don't have much recent Shocked, but a lot of older Shocked to offer in trade. As well as all sorts of other stuff. -Jeff Lester ------------------------------ From: "John R. Vanderpool" Subject: WANTED: lowell george interviews (audio) Date: Wed, 28 May 2003 17:15:24 -0400 (EDT) have one from DC '74, Germany '77, DC '79 and Hartford '79 seeking any others! -- thanx, fish . , . .:/ . ,,///;, ,;/ . o:::::::;;/// >::::::::;;\\\ ''\\\\\'" ';\ ';\ somewhere over the rainbow, bluebirds fly. birds fly over the rainbow. why then, oh why can't i? ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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