DAT-heads Digest #772
Contents:
FS: Denecke Ad-20 and PS2 (Clayton R Tartt)
normal mode ("Gabriel Luna")
Stereo Soundboards the norm? "I don't think so!" ((Fred Willard)) (Jonathan)
Mic or Line input for D100 with SP TFB-2 mics+box? (aza6+@pitt.edu)
oh sh#t..phantom power fed to battery box ("Winnie")
Re:Re: Still newbie: soundboard tech question (Keith Bode)
Radiohead N. American Tour and policy? ("Chris Mcgrath")
Sonic Sense ("billy bob")
did anyone tape Mike Keneally and/or Vernon Reid in Holland/Europe recently???? (Ethan)
FT: Brian Wilson Beacon NYC 6/16/03 (JPas4308@aol.com)
ISO any Beck Dats or CD's (DancinFace@aol.com)
ISO: Santana 6/13/03 Charlotte (P0wderfinger@aol.com)
ISO: Red Hot Chili Peppers 6/6/03 Charlotte (P0wderfinger@aol.com)
ISO: PHIL WHO TAPED THE DEAD 6-15-03 (sean madigan)
From: Clayton R Tartt <deadhead6@juno.com>
Subject: FS: Denecke Ad-20 and PS2
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:05:50 -0500
The ad-20 was bought used from this site, and has only been used about 15
times. Its in perfect working condition. The Ps-2 was bought new less
than a month ago and only used once.
The reason i am selling is because i have upgraded to a ua5.
I am looking for around 300$
e-mail me with questions.
Clayton
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From: "Gabriel Luna" <gaboluna@att.net.mx>
Subject: normal mode
Reply-To: "Gabriel Luna" <gaboluna@att.net.mx>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 14:43:16 -0500
how i can swithc to normal mode, besides the digest mode?
gabriel
From: Jonathan <kc7fys@yahoo.com>
Subject: Stereo Soundboards the norm? "I don't think so!" ((Fred Willard))
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 13:30:53 -0700 (PDT)
To the person who 'usually' got stereo soundboards--you're lucky. I have not been in
many clubs that use a stereo configuration with their systems. Generally the PA is
monaural, but the board may use the two main channels out in some sort of two-channel
configuration (not to be confused with stereo, which is a R>L spread of channels
deliberately panned to certain spots). However, you may get a sort of stereo mix if the
club is set up with a couple audience mics that are panned out L/R to provide a stereo
audience ambience to mix with the board mono send. Often, when the input to the PA is
dual mono, those two channels can be panned out into a stereo "taper mix" without
disturbing what makes it to the PA.
I guess I was just reacting to the supposition that people are getting 'stereo mixes'
when they are just getting two channels of whatever--certainly better than two monaural
channels, but not stereo.
My sound experience is pretty limited; do you know of a lot of clubs that pan out the
PA in stereo? I have heard shows at First Ave. here in Minneapolis that seem to be
using a stero spread, but I wonder if that's just me hearing the locations of
instruments and amps on the stage itself, which is pretty wide. Any experiences?
Jonathan
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From: aza6+@pitt.edu
Subject: Mic or Line input for D100 with SP TFB-2 mics+box?
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:36:57 -0400 (EDT)
I was hoping someone out there with tech background can help me on this. I =
have SP TFB-2 binaural mics (and an SPSB-1S battery box with bass roll-off)=
running into a D100, which I just got. Basically I want to know whether it=
's best to use the MIC or LINE inputs on the DAT when taping loud rock show=
s 30' away or less from the stacks.=20
Now, the mic sensitivity of the TFB-2 is rated at -35 dB (5.6 mV) re 1V at =
1 Pa. So what would this be in plain old mV/Pa? Somewhere around 30, maybe?=
So given this information, would it be safe at all to use MIC (combined wit=
h -20dB) for input selection on my D100, or would it be safe to go with LIN=
E every time? Thanks in advance..
ANDY
From: "Winnie" <who@sover.net>
Subject: oh sh#t..phantom power fed to battery box
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:43:40 -0400
When I use my "stealth" rig it has a battery box feeding the mics. When
using these with my mini-me, I run without Phantom power. Well.... hadnt
used this setup in several months and I went into "automatic mode" as though
I had my usual setup running Oktava mics. I had a number of pops and clicks
in the first tune of the show. I figured that was because I was late and was
getting my rig set up just as the band came on stage. It was dark and I
placed my pack with the mini-me on the floor. The music sounded great in the
recording until I placed the pack on the floor. With the pops I figured that
I had some cable issue when I moved it to the floor. But then it occured to
me that oooppps, I forgot about not using the phantom power with a battery
box and it was on the whole set. So.. was it really a loose cable from
moving stuff or did I cook something by running phantom power to the battery
box and mics. The question is... what should I check. What is most likely to
get damaged by running the phantom power. And if you have some ideas.. could
you please explain what the issue is with running the phantom power. Too
much voltage???
By the way... after the clicks and dropouts, the music went fairly flat.
Like it lost a bunch of fidelity, "crispness", maybe high end. It sounds
like it also went mono, which is partly why I think a cable got partially
pulled out. I'm having a hard time quantifying what is exactly different
about the sound.
Anyway... my Dead shows start Friday at SPAC and I want to figure out if
I've done any damage to the minime, or the battery box, or mics.
THANKS!!!!
Winnie
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From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re:Re: Still newbie: soundboard tech question
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 15:03:03 -0700
>
>
>Also, most of the boards i have gotten that were analog boards, i just used RCA jacks.
>
To my knowledge, there are no DSBD's around any live performances,
unless the show is . When I see that in lineage's, I always queston it
in my mind. When I see that in lineage's, I believe what it really is
should be SBD>DAT, or Laptop, or what ever digital device is connected
to the SBD. AFAIK, all digital boards are designed for, and used, in
recording, not live performances. It makes no sense to me to have all
the music sources with the exceptions of synthesizer's and some drum
pads, be analog, then convert anywhere from 2 to 64 channels or so to
digital for the board, then back to analog for the amplifiers.
Keith
From: "Chris Mcgrath" <imissmybus@earthlink.net>
Subject: Radiohead N. American Tour and policy?
Reply-To: "Chris Mcgrath" <imissmybus@earthlink.net>
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 17:03:45 -0700
According to Bands That Allow Taping::
Radiohead
Location Unknown, ? UK
Active Yes
Taping Status Audio
Genre Unknown
Note No professional recording equipment. Personal audio recording equipment
(e.g. Walkman) allowed. No video cameras. Personal still cameras allowed.
Recent reports indicate that security is allowing pro gear in the door and
full rigs have been sighted inside
Website http://www.radiohead.co.uk
Confirmed dates so far.
13 August - Tweeter Center, Boston
15 August - Parc Jean Drapeau, Montreal
16 August - Molson Amphitheatre, Toronto
18 August - Tweeter Center, Philadelphia
20 August - Merriweather Post Pavillion, Columbia MD
21 August - Blossom Music Center, Cleveland
23 August - Alpine Valley Music Theatre, Chicago (Troy WI)
24 August - UMB Bank Pavilion, St. Louis
26 August - Red Rocks Amphitheatre, Denver
28 August - USANA Amphitheatre, Salt Lake City
30 August - Thunderbird Stadium, Vancouver
31 August - White River Amphitheatre, Seattle
(all of the above on sale June 21 except August 31 on sale June 28)
CONFIRMED DATES ON SALE TBD:
23 September Shoreline Amphitheater Mountain View CA
25-26 September Hollywood Bowl Los Angeles CA
28 September Coors Amphitheater San Diego CA
1 October Cynthia Woods Mitchell Pavillion Houston TX
2 October Keifer UNO Lakefront Arena New Orleans LA
4 October Sound Advice Amphitheater West Palm Beach FL
6 October HiFi Buys Amphitheater Atlanta GA
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From: "billy bob" <shadowbill@hotmail.com>
Subject: Sonic Sense
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 20:33:59 -0400
Has anyone here ordered from Sonic Sense in Denver Colorado?
I was thinking about doing a telephone order with them and was wondering if
anyone had anything to say about them before I did so? Problems? Unfilled
or long waiting for backorders?
Quality products and service?
Thanks all.
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From: Ethan <reedvalve@yahoo.com>
Subject: did anyone tape Mike Keneally and/or Vernon Reid in Holland/Europe recently????
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 18:51:41 -0700 (PDT)
please say yes!
plenty of each to trade...
Ethan
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From: JPas4308@aol.com
Subject: FT: Brian Wilson Beacon NYC 6/16/03
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:30:57 -0400
FOB 6th row dead center
Coresound Cardiods>D8
110 mins
looking for wilson europe '02 or others
jon pasternak
jpas4308@aol.com
From: DancinFace@aol.com
Subject: ISO any Beck Dats or CD's
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2003 23:40:11 -0400
hello all,
Just had the fantastic chance to finally catch Beck live and was blown away. Was wondering if any of you all had any live beck your willing to B & P or trade. Thanks so much, Darin
From: P0wderfinger@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Santana 6/13/03 Charlotte
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:50:28 -0400
I'm looking for Santana 6/13/03 Charlotte on cdr. Please drop me a line if you can help me out.
Thanks,
Daniel
From: P0wderfinger@aol.com
Subject: ISO: Red Hot Chili Peppers 6/6/03 Charlotte
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 04:52:53 -0400
I'm looking for the Red Hot Chili Peppers 6/6/03 Charlotte on cdr. Please drop me a line if you can help me out.
Thanks,
Daniel
From: sean madigan <sm6325@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: PHIL WHO TAPED THE DEAD 6-15-03
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2003 08:49:32 -0700 (PDT)
I am look for a guy named phil who taped the dead
sunday. Yuo had a guy named Nick patched out of you
with my Da-P1. I need your source info! Any help would
be great!!
Sean M
sm6325@yahoo.com
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