DAT-heads Digest #775, Volume #6 Fri, 20 Jun 03 14:50:01 EDT Contents: ISO: Schoeps taper @ QOTSA/Zwan 4.4.2003 ("Benjamin Branch") ISO: Stanton Moore w/ Mike Gordon ("john crouch") Neville Bro's allow taping? ("Stephen Pzynski") Anyone tape Jack Johnson last night at the beach? (rich) ISO: Neil Young @ Bonnaroo Festival 6/13/03 ("Thor Henning Bugsett") Lou Reed 6/21 Broadcast ("DRider") ISO: Al Haiback (Joshua) Re: Stereo Mixes (Keith Bode) B.B. King/Jeff Beck "Live by Request" Fri 9pm ET ("Gary Davis") Newbie Soundcard Transfer Question ("Karl Schneider") DAT & CDR STORAGE SOLUTION FOUND!!! ("S Garrett Bastable") NORAH JONES -- GILLIAN WELCH TOUR ("Cap Spaulding") ISO Van Morrison 16 June 2003 Oakdale Theater (niallc@attbi.com) Police 9-3-82 US Festival B&P offer ("Chris Mcgrath") METALLICA@Rock am Ring 6-8-03 for trade (BlackCrowes@gmx.net) ISO Monty [monty@mail.i-c.net] - no DAT content (Patrick Smith) FS AD 1000 ("Greg Lance") les paul 88th birthday (Skiadikt@aol.com) FS: DA-P1, EcoCharge, Earthworks SR-77 Mics ("james helgy") LOU REED LIVE 2CDR FT BOSTON 6-7-03 ("eD") ISO Dixie Chicks Philadelphia 6/16/03 (Clancey) 125m or 150m: Out Of The Question? (mazur) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Benjamin Branch" Subject: ISO: Schoeps taper @ QOTSA/Zwan 4.4.2003 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:02:04 -0500 If you know or are him, please contact me ;) Benjamin ------------------------------ From: "john crouch" Subject: ISO: Stanton Moore w/ Mike Gordon Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 12:10:28 -0700 Did anyone tape this show at Bonnaroo? I would love to help circulate it, JOHN _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "Stephen Pzynski" Subject: Neville Bro's allow taping? Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 14:09:02 -0500 Anyone know their definite policy? I searched the BTAT site but they weren't listed. I have an opportunity to see them at the Minnesota Zoo (amazing amph!) in a few weeks. Thanks. Steve http://db.etree.org/stejampzy "It's not getting any smarter out there. You have to come to terms with stupidity and make it work for you." -FZ _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: rich Subject: Anyone tape Jack Johnson last night at the beach? Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:53:43 -0400 I have lots to trade... Rich ------------------------------ From: "Thor Henning Bugsett" Subject: ISO: Neil Young @ Bonnaroo Festival 6/13/03 Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 22:15:38 +0200 Looking for quality recordings from Neil's set at the Bonnaroo Festival. *Lots* of Neil for trade. Including most of the shows from the recent solo acoustic European tour.. - Thor ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: Lou Reed 6/21 Broadcast Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:51:32 -0400 Lou Reed's Saturday (6/21) concert at San Francisco's Warfield Theater will be broadcast live at 8 p.m. Pacific Time to AOL subscribers who log onto keyword: Broadband Rocks. AOL will also stream the show on demand for seven days after the broadcast... If someone gets this, I would be highly interested!! Peace, D ------------------------------ From: Joshua Subject: ISO: Al Haiback Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 15:47:24 -0700 (PDT) hey hey I was wondering if anyone had a current email for this fella....thanks! -Josh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Re: Stereo Mixes Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:05:40 -0700 > > >I read the Rolling >> Stones Steel Wheels tour used 2 32 channel Mackie's, joined. > That was my comment. I remember reading it, as that tour was 12 years ago or so? Maybe it was in someone's eBay ad trying to sell a 32.4 board. Reading it stuck in my mind. >If you pan certain instruments or vocals to one side or the other, the audience would not hear the entire sound being produced, unless they were in the sweet spot area. > About 12 blocks from my home is a small blues club that gets some pretty big name national and interntionally touring blues artists. The area where the music is, is shaped irregularly, it's an L shape. I think in that room in particular, if you panned to either side, it would be a mess. Also, their SBD area is in a back corner in the small part of the L. I've seen Etta James, Junior Wells, Los Lobos, and many others who have bee nominated for, and recieved WC Handy awards, and some rockabilly artists like Bill Kirchen, along with numerous other artists with recording contracts with Blind Pig, Evidence, Alligator, and more play there. That specific room does not lend itself to stereo separation. Also, The Coach House in San Juan Capistrano is a place that would be about impossible to mix with some L-R pan. The venue is about twice, or more, wide as it is deep, and there are 3 sets of overhead speakers, 2 on diaganols in opposite directions. I've got a few shows that were recorded there, but I never compared the 2 tracks. >Here is a >partial interview with their house engineer, Robbie McGrath. > >http://mixonline.com/ar/audio_hot_licks/index.htm > >Now as far as a stereo FOH mix, it is done all the time. I toured for >fifteen years with everyone from Billy Joel to Cheap Trick to the Osmonds >and a stereo mix is a really nice way to fill the house. > The interview cited discusses the tour of last year, not the Steel Wheel tour of the distant past. I didn't claim what I read was fact, I just said I read it. Maybe 1991 or so was similair to 2002-3 in equipment used. What the truth was in 1991 or so, I don't know. I think you are right on stereo being a nice way to fill the house, but it varies from house to house, and with the little bit of playing with a mixer I've done, I'd feel sorry for anyone who paid $75 for a crappy seat at MSG, to hear what I did with 64 channels. It probably takes the guys who are professionals quite a few hours to get the sound right. Keith ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: B.B. King/Jeff Beck "Live by Request" Fri 9pm ET Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 16:17:42 -0700 A&E's Live by Request Starring B.B. King and Friends The legendary blues master treats legions of fans to a live performance. Viewers can phone in or e-mail their song requests as B.B. King and friends perform at John Jay College in New York City. CC [TV G] ------------------------------ From: "Karl Schneider" Subject: Newbie Soundcard Transfer Question Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 18:13:01 -0500 First of all, thanks again to all those that helped me find the necesarry equiptment to pull of a soundboard with my new (to me) D8. I have a couple other questions as well. First of all, soundcard recomendations would be very appreciated. I am looking at the audigy 2 platinum, I have heard the audigy 1 had sampling problems, any feedback about 2? I was also lucky enough to meet a taper who got an audience recording with his D7 and we are looking to mix them. The reason for the mixing is the guitar and bass are very soft in comparison to the vocals and drums, because they needed to be applified through the PA. Second question, is there a way to amplify the guitars to meet the levels of the drums-vocals. Third question is how should I go about mixing the audience (for guitars) and soundboard (for vocals-drums). Thanks again for all the help, I would be more than glad to share the end product with everyone. The show was Dredg at the Elbo Room in chicago and for the board survey, the output was 2 channel mono, with the left speaker having a higher level than the right. Karl Schneider ------------------------------ From: "S Garrett Bastable" Subject: DAT & CDR STORAGE SOLUTION FOUND!!! Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:39:08 -0400 For a while now I have been trying to determine what storage solution would work well for my CDRs and in particular my DATs. Since I don't display my DATs, I wanted a container that could safely store them indefinitly. For my CDRs, I wanted a way to keep them safe and away from UV light, etc. but still easily searchable and simply organized. Today I think I found the ANSWER! I was at an Army/Navy store to pickup uniform parts for my Navy training (I leave for San Diego, CA this Monday) and I saw these metal ammo boxes. I had seen them many times on ships and when we'd shoot the weapons, but they always threw them overboard. It imedeately dawned on me that these things were standard sizes. After taking a quick measure w/ a ruler they had, I found out that the 30 CAL container (on the side it says: 200 Cartridges, 7.62MM NATO M80 Cartons, M13, etc.) fit DAT tapes PERFECTLY!!! Also, by nature, these things are virutally indestructable. They are meant to be water-proof to over 100 feet (and this one is, when i opened it it had been sitting in the sun and it sounded like i was opening a soda can, it's truely air-tight!). Additionally, they are mean to resist heat from a fire (so the ammo wouldn't explode), and they use a dense but light weight metal (probably aluminum) for the shell. So, I purchased 1 used can for $5. I just tried putting my DATs in it, it holds ~40 of them very nice and snug. The interior dimensions are as follows: Width 3.5" / Length 10" / Depth 6.75" I plan to buy about 3 more. I was told by the guy he could order unlimited ammounts, if anyone here wants some I may look into it more. In regards to the CDRs, there was a slightly larger can (50 CAL): Width 5.5" / Length 11" / Depth 6.75" I did not purchase this, it was for $8. My measurements tell me this will snugly fit both CDR cases AND those case-logic cd slips. I estimate it will hold 350 CDRs and they will be very easily viewable. Additionally, they will be air-tight and UV protected, etc. So, this is how I plan to store my master DATs as well as my data and .shn-backup CDRs! S. Garrett Bastable College of Commerce & Finance Villanova University '04 s.garrett.bastable@villanova.edu 315.263.3849 ------------------------------ From: "Cap Spaulding" Subject: NORAH JONES -- GILLIAN WELCH TOUR Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 17:41:00 -0700 I would like to correspond with anyone who is taping the Norah Jones JUne tour. Gillian Welch and David Rawlings are the opening act, and I'm more interested in tapes of them than of Norah. Richard _________________________________________________________________ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ From: niallc@attbi.com Subject: ISO Van Morrison 16 June 2003 Oakdale Theater Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 21:37:47 -0400 I am desperate to locate a copy of the 16 June 2003 Van Morrison show from the Oakdale Theater in Wallingford, CT. I have 900+ Van shows on CDR, as well as access to a large inventory of Van on DAT, including the two Boston shows from 14 June and 15 June. Also have a solid CDR collection of Bowie and Bruce. Was unable to get my gear past the Oakdale security folks, and would greatly appreciate obtaining this show. Best, Niall ------------------------------ From: "Chris Mcgrath" Subject: Police 9-3-82 US Festival B&P offer Reply-To: "Chris Mcgrath" Date: Thu, 19 Jun 2003 20:12:40 -0700 Maybe it's just me but it took a long time to get a clean and COMPLETE copy of this show. Being so, I'd like to offer it up to the list. Because of time constraints & other trades I'm only offering this in DAT format. Police 9-3-82 Glen Helen Regional Park, Devore, CA Nakamichi CM-300 (cp4)>Nakamichi 550 Master>analog 1st or 2nd gen.>Nakamichi CR-7A>Sony PCM R500 DO NOT be alarmed by the analog generations. Since I don't know for a fact whether it's 1st or 2nd gen. I have to allow room for error but I do believe it's 1st because you can BARELY hear any hiss. You have to really turn it up & even then it's hardly anything. Considering the standards on this list I feel pretty safe in saying that no one will be disappointed. I'll take the first 5 B&P's. Also, you have to send me a 2 hour DAT as I will be transferring it via Tascam DA 20 MK II digi out>Sony 7 pin > D8 The only trade I'll consider is if someone has video footage of this show but I seriously doubt it. Sorry to be so Nazi but I'm really busy. I do however want to thank Mr. Karma & Marc Kim for hooking me up. Chris http://www.phishhook.com/lists/ODJubilee ------------------------------ From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net Subject: METALLICA@Rock am Ring 6-8-03 for trade Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:42:20 +0200 (MEST) Hi there, just wondered whether anyone else wants a clone of the Metallica headlining show at this years german "Rock am Ring" Festival june 8th 2003. The entire show has been broadcast here in Germany in without any breaks and I'm doing a few clones for fellow DATheads. The show was some 125minutes long and FINALLY Metallica goes back to its roots after almost a decade of pussy music, cover tunes, ballads and selling out....extra hard setlist,cool and HEAVY soundmix... several new songs with the rest of the setlist from the early 80s to the early 90s (Creeping Death, Seek and Destroy,No Remorse,..) Best, Karsten -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging & more http://www.gmx.net +++ Bitte lächeln! Fotogalerie online mit GMX ohne eigene Homepage! ------------------------------ From: Patrick Smith Subject: ISO Monty [monty@mail.i-c.net] - no DAT content Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 07:56:14 -0400 Sorry for waste of BW. Monty, E-mail is bouncing. I want to trade. Please contact again - Patrick ------------------------------ From: "Greg Lance" Subject: FS AD 1000 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 05:10:45 -0700 I have an Apogee AD 1000 w/15pin, batteries and charger up for auction on ebay. Heres the link or type in item number 3031412103. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3031412103&category=3281 Thanks, Greg _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ From: Skiadikt@aol.com Subject: les paul 88th birthday Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 09:49:16 EDT anybody catch the les paul 88th birthday bash at iridium-nyc june 9th. apparently a who's who of guitarists showed up to jam with les. thanks ski ------------------------------ From: "james helgy" Subject: FS: DA-P1, EcoCharge, Earthworks SR-77 Mics Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 10:19:11 -0500 Well, due to financial troubles......brought on by not working since January, I have to part with some of my gear. Here's the deal: Tascam DA-P1 approx 3 years old. Works GREAT, used only to record, as playback & duplication is my DA-302s job. The case was autographed by Keller Williams & Warren Haynes.....The W.H. auto is hard to read, as it was done w/a black sharpie. The deck is nice both mechanically & cosmettically. EcoCharge charger & 2 battery packs. I've run the deck using phantom power for the mics for 5 1/2 hours before on ONE battery with no problem. Earthworks SR-77 mics. These things sound AWESOME! great condition. I'll also include a box of 10 blank Sony tapes. I'll sell the whole outfit for $1,350.00 shipped UPS ground insured. If nobody wants the whole rig by the end of the week, I'll split it up. I will only take a money order or cashiers check, as I've been burned before. :-( BWT: to the first to reply --Little Feat 5/1/03 @ Uptown Theatre in Kansas City. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ From: "eD" Subject: LOU REED LIVE 2CDR FT BOSTON 6-7-03 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:53:41 -0400 Superb quality 2cd set recorded from the 7th row.... sonic studios mics to dat to 2cdrs... includes sweet jane dirty blvd my last shot twilights last reeling perfect day the day john kennedy died ecstasy lou was in a great mood.....email me your tradelists especially looking for annie lennox, recent pretenders, verbena, ike reilly, james intveld, recent janes addiction, liz phair "This secondhand living just won't do And the way I feel tonight I could die and I wouldn't mind And there's something going on inside Makes you wanna feel Makes you wanna try Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky".........J&M Chain ------------------------------ From: Clancey Subject: ISO Dixie Chicks Philadelphia 6/16/03 Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 11:54:45 -0400 Looking for this show for an old girlfriend - please help me score some points! My list: http://db.etre.org/clancey I have many many other shows; ask if you are looking for anything in particular! take care, Clancey "Sometimes war is a necessary evil, but war is *always* evil." - Jimmy Carter "I believe we die of all the things we hate the most." - Todd Snider ------------------------------ From: mazur Subject: 125m or 150m: Out Of The Question? Date: 20 Jun 2003 16:07:35 -0000 Hey gang, I think I know the answer to this, but I'll ask anyway. I had a Sony 60ES for a while that I basically played with, and then sold in favor of other technology. That was probably about 4-5 years ago, when I don't *think* 150m (that would be meter) DDS tapes were around. Curious, if I grabbed a used deck to play with again, can I use some of my used 150m tapes that I have retired from computer data backup? I know the FAQ says to use 60m, and 90m might be ok. But is 150m just completely out of the question and asburd to consider using (for personal use....of course I'd never try to trade with them)? Will they snap, or wear out the decks motors? Is the same true for 125m? Thanks, Rob Mazur - ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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