DAT-heads Digest #797, Volume #6 Sat, 12 Jul 03 14:50:00 EDT Contents: ISO JT at the beach (rich) DATs through airports (ijwthstd) Re: DATs through airports (greenone@bluestraveler.net) DAVID BOWIE 1971 (Toby & Karen Germano) Subject: Light stands for mic stands = handling noise? (Rich Mays) ROB HALFORD REUNITES WITH JUDAS PRIEST ("DRider") gorge tix (re: i need an extra gorge tix) TIX AVAIL HERE (Ian Stone) SONY TCD-100 REMOTE NEEDED ("eD") Tapers Request: Leona Naess mini Tour ("Fares Halteh") Part # for SBM-1 attached 7 pin cable (Joe Thierry) FS: Maxell DDS HS4/90s (90meter) (Eric Eckberg) FS: ALPINE PHISH TICKETS MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!! (Eric Eckberg) FS: Sabra Som Shockmounts & T-Bar ("Nick Graham") FT: elvis costello- central park summerstage (mike hooker) Dead's "Instant Concert CDs" on ABC News ("Gary Davis") WTD: QOTSA 5-27-02 SBD Taper. ("Benjamin Branch") Taping at TROCADERO in Philly tonight... maybe (thesmashingpumpkins-33@juno.com) Got Bruce Cockburn at IMAC last night... (rich) ISO: Recent Anita Baker shows ("RichGomes") FT Eagles MCI Center (DC) 7-12-03 (pwking) D7 Problem ("J G") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: rich Subject: ISO JT at the beach Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 15:01:51 -0400 Anyone have either of the JT shows at the beach? A good friend with limited Internet capabilities has asked me to see if there is a copy of either show floating around... ------------------------------ From: ijwthstd Subject: DATs through airports Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:08:27 -0700 (PDT) I always take them with carry on. My first plane trip in 3 years was this spring, Burbank to San Jose. Burbank they didnt even trip but they opened my bag in San Jose for the return trip. ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: greenone@bluestraveler.net Subject: Re: DATs through airports Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 14:17:56 -0500 (CDT) On Fri, 11 Jul 2003, neal copperman wrote: > What's the latest word on how DATs withstand the current airport > security stuff. Any concerns about putting them in checked bags? > Carry on? Any differences between blank and recorded? Just got back from going through security at three separate airports (Manchester, NH and Kansas City, MO outbound with blanks and Denver, CO return flight with masters) and had no problems taking them as a carry-on. I'd be very leery of putting recorded tapes in your checked bags because the machines for checked luggage are MUCH stronger. Even the weaker machines for carry-on bags have a sign that says not to put any exposed film through more than five times - which makes me wonder why five would make any difference other than to exacerbate something that's already happened with one pass. But they didn't affect my tapes any. BTW, I was out in Denver to tape Blues Traveler if anyone's interested in a trade - Leftover Salmon opened 1st night and Ziggy Marley/Shurman opened 2nd night. Elation KM201's>V2>D8, drop me a line if you want. If anyone's taping anything of the ongoing tour (especially the gig at the Boulder Theatre on August 9th!) I'd love to pick up anything you've got. --Dave ------------------------------ From: Toby & Karen Germano Subject: DAVID BOWIE 1971 Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 12:53:07 -0700 Fellow Heads, I'm in search of a nice quality copy of David Bowie's 1971 Aylesbury Friar's Club UK gig. I have lots of Bowie to trade. Thanks, Toby ------------------------------ From: Rich Mays Subject: Subject: Light stands for mic stands = handling noise? Reply-To: richmays@comcast.net Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:13:29 -0400 Mechanical vibration is always a problem with cardioids than with omnis. Make sure that you SECURELY anchor the mic cable (with adequate slack to the mic) at the base of the shock mount with tape or tiewrap, or whatever vibration that might travel along the cable from the adjacent stand, etc, will be efficiently transferred to the microphone, thus bypassing the shockmount altogether. The only role the stand plays is how sensitive it is to mechanical resonance. Generally speaking, heavier stands are more inert. If you can thump the stand and it rings, that doesn't bode well. Rich Mays Sonare Recordings ------------------------------ From: "DRider" Subject: ROB HALFORD REUNITES WITH JUDAS PRIEST Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:53:15 -0400 The Metal God is Back! World Tour in 2004 http://www.judaspriest.com/ Screaming For Vengeance D ------------------------------ From: Ian Stone Subject: gorge tix (re: i need an extra gorge tix) TIX AVAIL HERE Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 16:26:03 -0700 (PDT) Jeffrey (and everyone) have 1 ticket to each night of the gorge for sale or trade, face value of course. email me istone626@earthlink.net before this evening w/ your phone # or call my cell 626-260-0503 peace, ian stone ============================== From: "Jeffrey Allen Irish" Subject: ISO: one ticket to second night GORGE Date: Thu, 10 Jul 2003 20:38:00 -0500 Hey guys/gals- I could use one extra ticket to the Gorge Sunday night (second night). If anyone has an extra PLEASE lemme know soon. Jeff ============================== ------------------------------ From: "eD" Subject: SONY TCD-100 REMOTE NEEDED Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 19:30:45 -0400 OUCH...lost my remote for my D-100...can't check recording or levels stealth...does anyone know wher i can get a replacement...i tried calling sony and they are supposed to get back to me...not sure if they can get one..help is appreciated...ed "This secondhand living just won't do And the way I feel tonight I could die and I wouldn't mind And there's something going on inside Makes you wanna feel Makes you wanna try Makes you wanna blow the stars from the sky".........J&M Chain ------------------------------ From: "Fares Halteh" Subject: Tapers Request: Leona Naess mini Tour Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:02:55 -0400 Leona Naess is kicking off a mini tour in support of her new album. The dates are as follows: Thu-Jul-31 Seattle, WA Tractor Tavern Fri-Aug-01 Portland, OR Dante's Sun-Aug-03 San Francisco, CA Café du Nord Tue-Aug-05 Los Angeles, CA Troubadour Wed-Aug-06 San Diego, CA The Casbah Fri-Aug-08 Salt Lake City, UT Liquid Joe's Sat-Aug-09 Boulder, CO AAA convention Mon-Aug-11 Minneapolis, MN 400 Bar Tue-Aug-12 Chicago, IL Martyr's Wed-Aug-13 Detroit, MI The Shelter Fri-Aug-15 Louisville, KY Uncle Pleasants Sat-Aug-16 Asheville, NC The Orange Peel Sun-Aug-17 Atlanta, GA Smith's Olde Bar Tue-Aug-19 Nashville, TN 12th & Porter Fri-Aug-22 Pittsburgh, PA Club Café Sat-Aug-23 Philadelphia, PA Tin Angel (early & late shows) Mon-Aug-25 Northampton, MA Iron Horse Music Hall Tue-Aug-26 Boston, MA House of Blues If you can tape or know anyone who can, please let me know. Your help is greatly appreciated! --Fares ------------------------------ From: Joe Thierry Subject: Part # for SBM-1 attached 7 pin cable Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:34:31 -0400 Does anyone have the Sony part # for the 7 pin cable attached to the SBM-1? Thanks, Joe ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: FS: Maxell DDS HS4/90s (90meter) Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 17:58:24 -0700 (PDT) I have 56 sealed Maxell DDS HS4/90s (90meter) tapes that I need to get rid of. These retail for $3.00 each. I will take $140 + $10-S/H + $2.50-INSURANCE for a total of $152.50 So you get a great deal of $2.73 each shipped.... I do take Paypal. You can find a picture here: http://www.maxell-data.com/pliars/000019.jpg shmurg@yahoo.com __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: FS: ALPINE PHISH TICKETS MAKE ME AN OFFER!!!! Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 18:00:29 -0700 (PDT) I now can't go to the Alpine Phish shows. I have 2 tickets each night: 2-July 18 LAWN 2-July 19 LAWN MAKE ME AN OFFER for all four- they will go out overnight delivery. I do take Paypal.... shmurg@yahoo.com Eric __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Nick Graham" Subject: FS: Sabra Som Shockmounts & T-Bar Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 20:17:23 -0500 For Sale: 2 Sabra Som shockmounts and Sabra Som T-Bar. All were bought new in June of last year. Like new condition, still have all the original packaging. Retail for all this is $130, would like to get $65 OBO. Preference to anyone who can PayPal the payment. Thanks for the space, Nick http://www.phishhook.com/lists/Nick_Graham ------------------------------ From: mike hooker Subject: FT: elvis costello- central park summerstage Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 00:34:31 -0400 hi, just got back from the costello gig in NYC. awesome is all i can say. he didnt say two words, just played a lot of songs, for almost 2 hrs. being that he wasnt pushing a record, the set list was really varied and just great. i listened to the tape in the car on the way home, sounded nice. the crowd got a little noisy and annoying at times, but outdoor shows tend to have that . if anyone wants to trade, drop me a line. thanks have fun, Mike Hooker please see my music trading list at: http://hometown.aol.com/mhooker216/myhomepage/index.html being AOL, its doesnt always work. try later, or ask for a list ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Dead's "Instant Concert CDs" on ABC News Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Fri, 11 Jul 2003 22:57:46 -0700 The Dead's new "instant CD" policy caught the eye of ABC News this weekend. You might catch a rerun of this story on some weekend ABC news show, or early Monday morning. You can watch the video online at www.abcnews.go.com, but apparently you have to subscribe to watch video. You can read the text of the story here: http://www.abcnews.go.com/sections/wnt/SciTech/digital_dead030711.html For archival purposes, I will also include the text of the story here: --Gary Digital Dead Grateful Dead Begins Burning, Selling Own Concert CDs By Bill Redeker ABC News, 7/11/03 M O R R I S O N, Colo., July 11 - For the past week, the spectacular natural amphitheater Red Rocks, carved out of the Rocky Mountains' front range near Denver, has played host to 10,000 people a night, attracted by the legendary Grateful Dead. Actually, make that "The Dead." Since leader Jerry Garcia died in 1995, the band has renamed itself a couple of times. The group's fans are extremely loyal. "Deadheads" are known to follow the band across the country during its annual summer tour. This year, they've added an attraction for the faithful. Lead singer and guitarist Bob Weir calls it an "experiment." Every concert is recorded and digitally transferred to compact discs that can be ordered at the concert venue and shipped within a week and a half. It's like going to the same concert over and over again. And it could well be the future of album sales for "performance" bands like The Dead, for many reasons: Cost: A three-CD set of a typical performance costs $22. Compare that to the usual $17 or $18 charged by music stores for a single disc. Incentive for the performers: Most bands like The Dead receive less than $1 for each album sold. By controlling the recording and marketing of their work, they now earn up to $8 or $10 an album. This means a band does not have to sell a million records to make a decent profit. It can sell far fewer. It also means that less "commercial" songs get recorded. Finally, it should encourage start-up bands that can't afford to record with a major label. Back of the Bus CD Burning A simple laptop computer with not-so-simple software is the key. Dennis Leonard, The Dead's audio mixer, who is nicknamed "Wizard," sits in a tiny room or even in the back of the band's bus, mastering the recorded tracks and storing them in digital files. He can "burn" a CD from his computer or collect the digitalized tracks and send them off to Chicago for duplication. It's that easy. "They're much better than the free downloads from the Internet," said Leonard. "Online MP3 files are compressed and don't provide nearly the range as a CD." Someday, he believes the recordings will be digitally downloaded from a machine at the concert site only moments after the last song has been played. Fans will actually be able to listen to the concert they just attended on their car audio system, driving home. The faithful seem to like the idea. So far, about 25,000 CDs have been sold. That's about 2,000 for each performance during The Dead's summer tour. Do the arithmetic, and the band pockets a quarter-million dollars. Call it "supplemental income," as they have already earned most of their money from concert ticket sales. Tickets go for $52.50 a head - or Deadhead, that is. The egalitarian breakthrough is not, however for every musical group. Some bands cannot survive outside a studio because members need audio sweetening, dubbed-over voice tracks and other tricks to sound presentable. But the technology is perfect for bands that thrive on interaction with their audiences. Jam bands such as Phish, the Allman Brothers Band and String Cheese Incident have all embraced the "road recordings." ‘Room for Both’ This does not mean that The Dead will prohibit private recordings of their concerts. For years, individuals have been allowed to set up their own microphones and tape recorders at Dead concerts and make personal recordings. In fact, the Grateful Dead actually encouraged the practice and reserved a special area for the recorders. But the road-show CDs will easily compete with the homemade recordings because they are professionally recorded and mastered. "There's room for both," said Cameron Sears, the CEO of The Dead. "We're not going to prevent people from doing that. We hope they appreciate the fact we're doing it and by supporting this avenue we're opening up other doors for things that could potentially unfold." In the meantime, the band continues its summer tour while picking up pocket change. "We're turning some handsome coin here," said Weir. "It's good for music, it's bad for a small corner of the whole music world - that being people who make money selling records - and I'm sorry for them," he said with a wink. What a long, strange trip it's been - and continues to be for the iconic road band. # # # ------------------------------ From: "Benjamin Branch" Subject: WTD: QOTSA 5-27-02 SBD Taper. Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 01:23:21 -0500 If you're out their, give me a shout. Benjamin ------------------------------ From: thesmashingpumpkins-33@juno.com Subject: Taping at TROCADERO in Philly tonight... maybe Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 09:59:10 GMT Hi fellow DAT-heads. I will be recording a band that I know fairly well (somewhat personally as I've seen them and other members' bands as well). They cannot allow taping now, since they signed under S-Curve/EMI/Virgin in November 2002. Virgin is apparently anti-taping, so even though they used to sometimes allow a stand (if someone taping them actually had one!) and soundboard feeds, they cannot any longer. This means I have been stealthing them with my new stereo mics: DPA 4021's. I run those to my AETA PSP3 and Sony M1 and the sound is pretty detailed but still pretty creamy and smooth. Of course there is also a lot of loud and tight bass, which is why I love these mics : ) Anyway, please let me know if recording at the TROC in Philadelphia is worth it or not. The band doesn't mind I tape them, but as I said they can't help me out (legally). I am forced to walk through detectors, pat-downs or sometimes nothing, depending on the venue. The shows are filled with me worrying I might get busted, which always puts a damper on the whole day and night... The last thing I need is to get busted! I heard the sound at this venue SUCKS. Is this true? Please respond to me privately at PromTheme@aol.com or TheSmashingPumpkins-33@juno.com I really need to know by this afternoon if possible... I had no clue the Troc was so shitty for taping until I looked it up on DAT-heads just now... Thanks for the space, Tom Roach, NJ ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today! ------------------------------ From: rich Subject: Got Bruce Cockburn at IMAC last night... Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 09:26:48 -0400 1st row ctr Row A seat 1, sounds absolutely amazing! anybody taping the Bottom Line? anyone tape any of the Canadian shows? Please get in touch, I have tons of pristene Cockburn to trade Thanks, Rich ------------------------------ From: "RichGomes" Subject: ISO: Recent Anita Baker shows Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 11:55:47 -0400 I am hoping again that someone in Dat-land has taped some of the recent Anita Baker shows. This is her first tour in 7 years and she is amazing live. Have lots to offer in trade. -Rich ------------------------------ From: pwking Subject: FT Eagles MCI Center (DC) 7-12-03 Reply-To: sleepypedro@yahoo.com Date: Sat, 12 Jul 2003 09:45:44 -0700 (PDT) hi i just pulled a really nice master of The Eagles last night at the MCI Center in Washington DC. dpa 4061 > d8 @ 48k, 14th row in front of right stack. Sounds great and not too chatty a crowd, which was a pleasant surprise. the show was great, and clocked in at 2 hrs 58 minutes. whew! at this time i'd only like to trade this master out to other folks who are taping the eagles on the upcoming Farewell I tour. please don't send me lists as attachments, don't tell me about how large and diverse your tapelist is. i just want to hear from you if you're taping or have taped the eagles this year. thanks. peter __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! 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