DAT-heads Digest #829
Contents:
re: taping at Stephen's talkhouse ("Mark McKay")
Re: computer timers ? (bth_away)
Bob Hope B&P (Status) (Mexminute@aol.com)
ISO Dylan/Petty 8-10 (dolphin smile)
Stryper or Queensryche anyone?? (BlackCrowes@gmx.net)
Re: Dylan Just Being A Dickhead! (Edwin Hurwitz)
Human League Tourdates (GaoBest@aol.com)
ISO: ween in Philly : FOB schoeps +ween bwt (innis nelson)
Re: Tapers Just Being A ...head! (Liam Sean Kennedy)
Re: computer timers ? (Michael Edmonson)
Counting Crows - 08/20 Hartford Ticket FS ("Bill Hoy")
Re: Jimmy Chamberlain drum clinics (Philip Smoker)
Re: Dylan Just Being A Dickhead! (Eugene Hu)
ISO Liz Phair @ Bowery Ballroom/tape issue question ("John Cotter")
Items For Sale (charlie miller)
Re: DAT-heads Digest #828 ("MattB")
ISO taper: Over the Rhine - MPLS - Sept 23 (Derrick Belbas)
FT: Chris Isaak - MPLS - 9 Aug (Derrick Belbas)
ISO taper: Delerium - MPLS - 14 September (Derrick Belbas)
ISO taper: Steve Hackett - MPLS - Wenesday (Derrick Belbas)
From: "Mark McKay" <mkm@cox.net>
Subject: re: taping at Stephen's talkhouse
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:51:53 -0400
Thanks to all who responded...both onlist and privately.
BWT offer has been spoken for.
Mark
From: bth_away <bth_away@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: computer timers ?
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 03:02:03 -0700 (PDT)
I've used this Autoshutdown program which works pretty
well I think.
http://paradiseprogramming.tripod.com/as.html
Also, if you need to automate any tasks, another good
program is WinScheduler:
http://winscheduler.com/winscheduler.htm
Hope that helps.
Bryan
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From: Mexminute@aol.com
Subject: Bob Hope B&P (Status)
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:51:08 -0400
Many of you may remember a B&P I did for a live Bob Hope concert the day after he passed. I just wanted to update those of you who have yet to recieve your copies.
I left for vacation on August 3rd, and just returned last night (August 10th). I managed to send out 2 on August 2nd as these were the first recieved as of that date. When I returned yesterday, there were 5 in my mailbox, which I completed I mailed later in the evening.
Since we had the mailed held at the post office for the week we were gone, I will get to the others within a day or 2. Thanks for you patience
Mitchell
From: dolphin smile <thedolphinsmile@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO Dylan/Petty 8-10
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 05:55:07 -0700 (PDT)
have tons to trade including many of the dylan/dead
sets.
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From: BlackCrowes@gmx.net
Subject: Stryper or Queensryche anyone??
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:22:32 +0200 (MEST)
Hi there,
anyone planing to tape Stryper or Queensryche on their upcoming tours??
Plenty to trade..
Karsten
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From: Edwin Hurwitz <edwin@indra.com>
Subject: Re: Dylan Just Being A Dickhead!
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 09:01:46 -0600
>From: ISTEIN2@aol.com
>Subject: Dylan Just Being A Dickhead!
>Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:13:49 EDT
>
>It's one thing to be anti-taper, as Bob Dylan surely is, but quite another to
>refuse to contract so that his guest appearance performances could be
>included on the Dead's OCRS series.
Why is that different? Dylan, and every other musician, can contract
how they want.
>
>Let's go back into past history a bit and you'll find out it's totally Bob
>Dylan, not his record company who is responsible for much of his
>irrational acts
>toward tapers. I happen to have friends who work as security at the Jones
>Beach Amphitheater. Some years ago when Dylan was to appear at that venue, I
>was told by my friends that word came down direct from Bob Dylan regarding
>tapers. His instructions were for security to grab the DAT decks of
>anyone they
>caught taping, and then (after confiscating the tape) smash it as hard as they
>could onto the concrete floor. I'm sure that Dylan would have ordered all
>tapers shot in the back of the head at close range, if he could get
>away with it.
>This guy is nothing but a complete dickhead, and I can't understand why the
>Dead even allow him onto their stage when he then controls their ability to
>sell their own music. Back when Jerry was alive, Bob Dylan never would have
>attempted to pull what he's done here. No one ever said "No" to
>Jerry, and the
>music was free as soon as it was played. I've taped Dylan plenty of
>times when
>he opened up for the Grateful Dead in the past. We never were told not to run
>our decks while he was playing.
>
It wasn't that no one said no to Jerry, it was that he never said no
to anyone else. If he had learned to say no, he might still be alive
today and a much better player than he was when he went out.
As far as smashing decks, that goes too far and is not legal.
>Sorry to be so negative here about Dylan, but his not allowing the release of
>the songs he choose to come on stage and join the band in, is just beyond any
>explanation. Why did the Dead ever invite this clown to open up for them?
>I'm surprised Bob Dylan does not have his own secret "Taper Police" to wander
>through the taper sections and smash decks that are recording him when he's
>playing with the Dead as well!
Dylan is not a clown and the fact that the current members of the
Dead and certainly many respected musicians and fans the world over
feel that he deserves respect show that he is not a clown. Musicians
should have the right to determine what happens to their music, even
in collaboration, at least while they are alive (this whole thing of
lawsuits amongst estates is a little over the top). Dylan has always
been seen as a little eccentric, but if you see him with the Dead or
anywhere else, just sit back and enjoy the music for what it is and
don't worry so much about taping everything. Since you seem not to
enjoy Dylan and respect him, I can't understand why you want to
record him in the first place!
A DAT machine does not come with a license to tape every single
musical event that you attend.
Edwin
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From: GaoBest@aol.com
Subject: Human League Tourdates
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:15:09 EDT
Apparently, 25 plus years after their start (remember, at one point Human
League split off into Human League and Heaven 17 - and we know who had the
success!)... probably stealth-only (I doubt the fabulous Jedi Mind tricks [I *loved*
that email! These are not the droids you're looking for, Stormtrooper!] will
work, but I could be totally wrong). I don't know about ticket availability.
Apparently Phil & Susanne are still fabulous, from other show reviews I've
read (and yes, great setlists, including of course their mega hit DYWMB). I am
including the "early" August shows, even though they've already occured!
AUGUST 03
Fri 1 Washington, DC 9.30 Club
Sat 2 Philadelphia, PA The Trocadero
Sun 3 Farmingdale, NY Downtown
Tue 5 NYC, NY BB Kings
Wed 6 Sea Bright, NJ The Tradewinds
Fri 8 Harrisburg, PA Coyotes Bar
Sat 9 Cleveland, IL Beachland Ballroom
Sun 10 Chicago, IL Market Days Festival
Mon 11St Louis, MO The Pageant
Wed 13 Dallas, TX Deep Ellum
Thur 14 Houston, TX Verizon Theatre
Sat 16 Las Vegas, NV Boulder Station
Sun 17 Los Angeles, CA House of Blues
Tue 19 Palo Alto, CA The Icon (The Edge???)
Thur 21Tucson, AZ City Limits
Fri 22 Agoura Hills, CA The Canyon
Sat 23 San Diego, CA 4th & Broadway
Sun 24 Anaheim, CA The Grove
DECEMBER 03
Mon 1st Nottingham - Rock City
Tue 2nd Wolverhampton - Civic Hall
Wed 3rd Basingstoke - The Anvil
Fri 5th Liverpool - Academy
Sat 6th Grimsby - Auditorium
Sun 7th Glasgow - Barrowlands
Tue 9th Sheffield - City Hall
Wed 10th Norwich - UEA
Thur 11th Cambridge - Corn Exchange
Fri 12th Croydon - Fairfield Hall
Sun 14th Bristol - Carling Academy
Mon 15th Watford - Colosseum
Wed 17th Manchester - Apollo
Thur 18th London - Shepards Bush Empire
Fri 19th Brighton - Dome
Sat 20th TBC
cdr bwt: New Order 7-16-98 or any Feb 1987 Australia concert...
thanks/
Mike
From: innis nelson <innisnelson@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO: ween in Philly : FOB schoeps +ween bwt
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:18:25 -0700 (PDT)
Can anyone here help me find the guys running the
mk4v's ortf up front at the ween show this Saturday at
Penn's Landing in Philly. It was a rocking beautiful
show, that I MUST get a schoeps copy of. Any help
will be be repayed in bulk!!
thanx,
I
bwt: ween in NOla 5-3-03 state palace thtr
2 cds to first 3
mk4v(ortf, FOB, DFC)>v2>ad2k>vx pocket 24/48 > sound
forge > 16/44.1 > cdr
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From: Liam Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.org>
Subject: Re: Tapers Just Being A ...head!
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:24:03 -0400
For what its worth, taping of the Dylan/Dead sets in 1987 was stealth. The =
people here who have loudly said otherwise here have a faulty memory -- he=20
has been consistent about disallowing taping at all planned performances=20
with the GD and for his own gigs.
I don't see what the big deal is, Dylan is one of many people who don't=20
allow taping and contrary to rumor he is not one of the hardest to stealth. =
In some ways such shows are more pleasant to tape because your gear is more =
likely to get trashed (or stolen) in the taper section than by a security=20
goon... and in the latter case you have legal recourse. But such shows=20
exist and there isn't much more to be said about it.
As far as the original subject "just being a...", the performer is well=20
paid because he is different than the "establishment" and he has always=20
bucked trends. He is not paid to be the GD and probably has more in common =
with Eminem. ;-) The subject unfortunately befits some tapers, as well as=20
other (talkative) audience members, and nobody is willing to pay us to be=20
such. If you aren't allowed to tape and you get busted stealthing, insist=20
on your legal rights firmly, but take being shut-down calmly. A=20
controversial performer can be a cool thing... a controversial stealth=20
taper just does not make sense.
Se=E1n
From: Michael Edmonson <edmonson@sdf.lonestar.org>
Subject: Re: computer timers ?
Reply-To: edmonson@sdf.lonestar.org
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:43:18 +0000
> I'd like to tape some net-casts when I'm not at my computer without having
> to leave my computer on all day. I've taped some things via
> www.totalrecorder.com and this has a feature like a vcr so that I can
> program it to begin & end recording something that I'm streaming, but it
> doesn't have the option to turn the computer off when it's done. Anybody
> here know a way to do that (without getting one of those radio shack timers
> used to turn on/off lamps) ? I found a couple things via shareware but they
> didn't really work.
I know you can do this with Windows XP and "standby" mode if your PC
supports it (in standby mode the PC draws only enough power to keep
the RAM active, and the hard disks, monitor, and fans all shut off).
First, set the power management settings in the Control Panel to put
the PC into standby mode after a certain period of inactivity. Then
create a "scheduled task" in the Control Panel to start Total Recorder
at a particular time. Be sure to set the advanced option to "wake the
computer to run this task". You may have to configure login and
password information for the task to get it to work. If this is all
done correctly, the PC should go into standby mode when it's not being
used, yet wake itself up temporarily for scheduled recording. It
should be noted that there might be other processes running on your
computer which prevent it from ever going into standby mode, but
that's a whole other subject.
Michael
From: "Bill Hoy" <Bill.Hoy@eaw.com>
Subject: Counting Crows - 08/20 Hartford Ticket FS
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:31:15 -0400
Hello all -
I have one Counting Crows/John Mayer - 8/20 Hartford ticket for sale - =
Sec 200 Row U seat purchased thru the presale for sale. Front Center =
section. I paid $58.30, I'll let it go for $50 or best offer if someone =
can use it. The seat would be perfect for audio taping. Both bands =
allow audio taping.
Does anyone know what they taping scene has been like on this tour? I'm =
guessing stands are allowed, tape at your seat.
Thanks,
Bill
bhoy@eaw.com
From: Philip Smoker <psmoker43@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Jimmy Chamberlain drum clinics
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 11:43:27 -0700 (PDT)
Hi, all.
Jimmy Chamberlain (Zwan/Smashing Pumpkins/Last Hard
Men) is hosting several drum clinics this week. I was
wondering if anyone would be able to tape one of these
events, either on audio or video. I'd be more than
willing to compensate said taper for their efforts in
discs or goods. The dates are listed below:
August
11 Midwest Percussion in Chicago, IL
12 Colorado Drum in Colorado Springs, CO
13 Drum Headquarters in St. Louis, MO
14 Drums Etc in Philadelphia, PA
15 Music Loft in Greensboro, NC
Also, I am looking for ANY shows on ANY format by the
following artists and will trade handsomely for them:
A-Frames
Black Lipstick
The Fire Engines
Four Tet
Manitoba
The Swell Maps
The Yummy Fur
Thanks,
*phiL*
BWT:
...And You Will Know Us By The Trail of Dead
@ The Black Cat, Washington, DC - 04/17/03
{Core Sound Binaurals with bass roll-off > Sony
TCD-D8}
[To the first two who respond after I get the digest.]
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From: Eugene Hu <eugene@overture.com>
Subject: Re: Dylan Just Being A Dickhead!
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 12:37:09 -0700
> Guess that we have to remember than taping is a privilege, not a right.
> Dylan is probably a little sore at seeing so many of his shows being SOLD on
> eBay.
I'm not touching the issue of taping Dylan with a 10' pole :-), but if
his appearances were sold via OCRS I bet there'd be a lot fewer shows of
his being sold on eBay.
-Eugene
From: "John Cotter" <johnpc@adelphia.net>
Subject: ISO Liz Phair @ Bowery Ballroom/tape issue question
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:38:26 -0400
I was in the balcony but only got half of the show.
The first half came out blank and the second half
came out ok. Schoeps MK4V/CMBI-M1.
When the tape is going from nothing to signal my
deck reports massive errors and becomes inaudible
with loads of distortion. It settles out eventually.
Anyone have any ideas?
I am gonna send deck down to Prodigital for a
check up/cleaning.
If anyone taped the show please contact me off list.
I would really appreciate it, especially the fella i stopped at the
crosswalk to grovel from. Thank you in advance.
john
From: charlie miller <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: Items For Sale
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 16:56:44 -0700 (PDT)
I figured I would try to do this here before putting it all up on ebay. I have the following things for sale;
Que firewire 24x EXTERNAL CDR drive (QPCRW241040FL 24X10X40 )
http://www.qps-inc.com/Prodcut%20Que!%20CDRW.htm
$80
Que firewire 32x EXTERNAL CDR drive (QPCRW321040FL 32X10X40)
http://www.qps-inc.com/Prodcut%20Que!%20CDRW.htm
$100
Iomega Predator EXTERNAL usb 2.0 24x CDR drive (NEVER USED)
http://y2k.centre.net.au/Iomega_Predator_CD_RW_24x10x40_External_USB_1_1___2_0_Drive_0006KA.html
$100
(FIVE)HHb DA113: 113 minute Hi-8/DTRS (UNOPENED)
http://www.cascademedia.net/cgi-bin/cmedia/hhbda113.html?id=8IJP3xyY
$50 (For all 5)
Sound Devices MP2 Pre-Amp
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/mp2master.htm
$500
Sound Devices USB Pre
http://www.sounddevices.com/products/usbpremaster.htm
$500
Custom Made Digital Patchbay (Coax in -> 6 Coax out, battery meter, battery
and more)
$300
Sony R500 Pro Dat Recorder
http://www.oade.com/digital_recorders/DAT_Machines/sony_PCM-R500.html
$850
NETGEAR DS104 10/100 4 Port Dual Speed Hub RJ45 w/ Uplink Button
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?sku=749248&cs=19&c=us&l=en
$20
Linksys 4 port Router BEFSR41
http://www.linksys.com/Products/product.asp?prid=20&scid=29
$30
From: "MattB" <matt@mattb.net>
Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #828
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 22:20:24 -0600
Not sure if it will work on all Windows version, but for WinNT and 2k (and
bet XP) I've used a handy tool that is part of the Windows NT resource kit
tools available free from MS. Not sure if you can do this yourself, but of
you are somewhat PC savvy:
It's called shutdown.exe and you can run it from a command prompt. I've used
it before to reboot servers in the middle of the night. You just schedule to
run it with some command line options ( like /c to close all running apps)
and it will do the trick. You could just schedule it for after you recording
is done.
Also, I just search CNet's download archive (www.download.com) for the word
shutdown and got a ton of free downloads. I bet something there would do the
trick too (and maybe even schedule it's self).
Matt
| ------------------------------
|
| From: "Erik B" <erikb33@bellatlantic.net>
| Subject: computer timers ?
| Date: Sun, 10 Aug 2003 22:44:44 -0400
|
| I'd like to tape some net-casts when I'm not at my computer without having
| to leave my computer on all day. I've taped some things via
| www.totalrecorder.com and this has a feature like a vcr so that I can
| program it to begin & end recording something that I'm streaming, but it
| doesn't have the option to turn the computer off when it's done. Anybody
| here know a way to do that (without getting one of those radio shack
timers
| used to turn on/off lamps) ? I found a couple things via shareware but
they
| didn't really work.
|
| thanks,
|
| Erik
|
From: Derrick Belbas <ve4vv@shaw.ca>
Subject: ISO taper: Over the Rhine - MPLS - Sept 23
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:21:55 -0500
Hi. At Fine Line in Minneapolis. Will gladly trade OtR recording or other
stuff if someone can manage this. Or will buy one ticket for you!
Thanks..
derrick
winnipeg
From: Derrick Belbas <ve4vv@shaw.ca>
Subject: FT: Chris Isaak - MPLS - 9 Aug
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:27:19 -0500
Two hour show. Not the best of seats, but it's not too bad. If anyone's
intersted, please write.
Also Lisa-Marie (F) Presley, the opener.
derrick
winnipeg
From: Derrick Belbas <ve4vv@shaw.ca>
Subject: ISO taper: Delerium - MPLS - 14 September
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:24:35 -0500
Hi.. Delerium, w/ Conjure One @ The Quest.
Anyone interested? Have stuff to offer in trade..
http://members.shaw.ca/ve4vv/trade.htm
Thanks..
derrick
winnipeg
From: Derrick Belbas <ve4vv@shaw.ca>
Subject: ISO taper: Steve Hackett - MPLS - Wenesday
Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 23:25:33 -0500
at Borders. anyone?
derrick
winnipeg
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