DAT-heads Digest #861, Volume #6 Fri, 12 Sep 03 22:50:01 EDT Contents: Re: Mastering Help (please) (Greg Teltschik) M-1 Battery Sled Comments ("Chris Black") Re: Removing high-pitched sounds ("Gary Davis") Re: Jayhawks Taping Policy (=?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Spie=DF?=) Jeff Beck at BB King's 9/10-11 (John Fink Jr) unlimited sunshine question about Cheap Trick ("Tatina, Bill") B&P Offer Johnny Cash {Rest In Peace} ("KUZEN J") Gear For Sale ("Anthony J. Mirabella") FS: D7/D8 battery sled (Mark Domyancich) D8 repair services (Mark Domyancich) Terrapin Closing? what will happen to the list? (rich) Re: Terrapin Closing? what will happen to the list? (Seth Breidbart) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Greg Teltschik Subject: Re: Mastering Help (please) Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:52:59 -0500 At 10:50 PM 9/10/2003 -0400, Matt wrote: >Also, how does one eliminate the high-pitched >screaming of female fans next to my microphones? Several methods: 1) If you can, keep the screaming female fans away. 2) Find a better spot. 3) If necessary, talk to them, offer them a copy if they will quiet down. 4) Move the mics to minimize their impact. All of that having failed, as it sounds like it has, there aren't too many options available. One technique I used for a very specific circumstance eliminated some annoying talking that was predominantly relegated to a single channel. 1. Identify the section of the recording where the talking/screaming takes place. 2. Select the section in question, then use the copy from other channel repair tool. 3. Maintaining the selection, run a pseudo-stereo plugin (I used the pseudo-stereo setting of the simple delay effect in Sound Forge). The idea is to mimic the slight delay that arose from the original mic placement. 4. Fix the beginning and end of the selection (if necessary) with the repair tool. I think I used "interpolation." This is necessary since you just shifted the entire selected waveform slightly. I understand this may not be entirely necessary if you take the time to find start and end selection points right at the center crossover. In any event, the "click" or "pop" that would otherwise be very evident should be eliminated. If done correctly, you can pretty well mask the fact that you did anything at all. However, it can take a bit of work to make it seamless. Tweak the delay settings so that you don't get a ping-pong effect as you cut in and out. In the situation I used this technique, it moved the conversation from the front of the left channel to somewhere behind the recording position. The talking wasn't eliminated, but muted to a reasonable level. It basically made a useless master into something you could actually listen to on a CD. As always, your mileage may vary. Greg Teltschik gteltschik@mindspring.com ------------------------------ From: "Chris Black" Subject: M-1 Battery Sled Comments Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 01:34:10 -0400 Hello All, Alas, the two radio shack 4.5v batteries that I've used to power my M1 for the last few years will no longer hold a charge. Not a bad investment for $10! Before I assemble (or try to) this "3 D" sled (http://members.tripod.com/~groovin/battery.html), I wanted to ask experienced sled-makers/-users their opinions on the following: Is there a better way than the one shown in the above link? If so, where can I find it? What battery life can I expect (with or without backlight) from this system? Do you suggest a certain type of rechargeable D cell to use? Anything else? Thanks in advance for all your help. Chris in DC _________________________________________________________________ Send and receive larger attachments with Hotmail Extra Storage. http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Re: Removing high-pitched sounds Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2003 23:31:48 -0700 Removing screaming fans is probably impossible, but it actually is quite easy to remove high-pitched feedback and also fans whistling. These sounds generally have a constant (and very narrow) frequency; the shifting nature we hear is a shift in volume; not frequency. The trick is once you find the primary frequency, there are generally harmonics on all the multiples (ie, a 2620 hz noise will also have sound at 2x, 3x, 4x, etc that number - all must be notched out). Low frequency feedback (howling) is much harder. Some people disagree with my decision to remove accidental feedback from classic Neil Young shows, etc. Even though it was "part of the show," it's generally an engineering accident, and nothing to do with the music, that caused it, so it's really no more part of the performance then screaming girls. Often, you can hear music under the feedback which was overlooked before. And of course, you don't run the notch for the whole show, just during a very selected part where the feedback occurs! --Gary ------------------------------ From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Christian_Spie=DF?= Subject: Re: Jayhawks Taping Policy Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:14:18 +0200 Hey guys, this might be of interest here. I also posted it to BTAT. I saw The Jayhawks a couple of days ago at a small club in Hamburg, Germany. After reading what some of you had posted in response to my request I wasn't too optimistic about taping. The band has kind of a "we-don't-care" attitude towards taping and they don't really encourage it. That's what Gary Louris (voc, g) told me after the soundcheck. I then talked to Mike Kent, the band's foh engineer who said that the official policy is no taping at all, because the record label is planning to release shows in the future. Now, here's the interesting bit: Mike asked me what equipemt I was using and I said DAT. The rest of the conversation went something like this: "You're not going to set up a huge micstand, right?" "No, I was hoping to tape the show from the board." "Oh, actually I'm supposed to do that!" The bottom line was that Mike didn't have a deck and so he told me I could tape the show (and send him a copy) if I managed to sneak my gear into the venue. Keep in mind that this "policy" is totally unofficial. Nobody will help you at the door. I also doubt that Mike will let you tape if he brings his own recorder or if the venue has a DAT hooked up to the board. Try to find Mike a couple of hours before the show and see if he can help you (or if you can help him...) and be prepared to go stealth if necessary. The Jayhawks are still touring Europe right now and will be opening for Lucinda Williams (who is anti-taping btw) in the states after that. You might want to try your luck. In any case, it's worth going, no matter if you tape or not. later... Christian ------------------------------ From: John Fink Jr Subject: Jeff Beck at BB King's 9/10-11 Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:15:56 -0400 Hi, If anyone caught these shows, please email me. Plenty to trade!! Be Well, John ------------------------------ From: "Tatina, Bill" Subject: unlimited sunshine question about Cheap Trick Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 10:35:58 -0700 does anyone know how long cake and cheap trick set times are this tour?? ------------------------------ From: "KUZEN J" Subject: B&P Offer Johnny Cash {Rest In Peace} Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 13:47:37 -0400 I'm offering up these two Johnny Cash Disc; 1 Free, 2 to 3 B&P's and or Trades. I Will notify you early next week either in or out. Winners will be chosen at radom. "Please put; Johnny Cash B&P in the Subjest line or you will DELITED from my junk Mail." Thanks Datheads, KUZEN Johnny Cash 8-25-90 Rocky Gap Festival - Cumberland, MD Rating: A+ SBD {x1 Disc} Ring Of Fire Folsom Prison Blues Sunday Morning Comin' Down Get Rhythm Any Old Wind That Blows Under The Double Eagle Ride This Train Five Feet High And Risin' Pickin' Time Busted No Setting Sun Hey Porter Ragged Old Flag You Win Again Big River I Still Miss Someone Call Me The Breeze Tennessee Flat Top Ghost Riders In The Sky Jackson If I Where A Carpenter The Far-Side Banks Of Jordan The Wreck Of The Old '97 Gospel Boogie Angel Band The Forth Man I Walk The Line Johnny Cash May 17-20, 1994 American Outtakes Recorded In Rick Rubin's Living Room, California Rating: A+ SBD {x1 Disc} 1. What On Earth 2. The Drifter 3. I Witnessed A Crime {w/ Billy Gibbons} 4. Banks Of The Ohio 5. The Next Time I'm Town 6. Breaking Bread 7. To Beat The Devil 8. Friends In California 9. The Caretaker 10. The Wonder Of You 11. East Virgina Blues 12. Oh Bury Me Not {Take 2} 13. Old Chunk Of Coal 14. Go On Blues 15. If I Give My Soul 43:08 _________________________________________________________________ Fast, faster, fastest: Upgrade to Cable or DSL today! https://broadband.msn.com ------------------------------ From: "Anthony J. Mirabella" Subject: Gear For Sale Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:47:00 -0400 =====BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE===== Hash: SHA1 I really hate to do it, but I have to part with my gear. I don't record often enough anymore to justify keeping it. The rig consists of a D7, AT853s with cardiod caps, a battery box with adjustable bass roll-off, a Sonic Studios SLA battery with charger, and a Core Sound 7-pin I-O cable, all packaged in a padded aluminum case. I've recorded about ten shows with the D7 in the two years that I've had it and it hasn't been used for playback at all. I'll entertain any reasonable offers and if I get one that really makes me happy, I'll throw in one of the CTD-8000 audio-capable DDS drives that I have. =====BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE===== Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/YhSkSdAxC41Y09ERArMkAJ9jH1CZwzEyGNII3Ysx6+H7b8W/EwCcDZTv uF4p1nzKaTna19O2AAz4anI= =86S/ =====END PGP SIGNATURE===== ------------------------------ From: Mark Domyancich Subject: FS: D7/D8 battery sled Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:32:47 -0500 Hello, I have a D7/D8 battery sled for sale. It is an internal one that holds 4-AA batteries. I ordered it from Oade a week or so ago. There is some minor scratches on the opposite side of the connectors but nothing that would affect its performance. I'm selling it because I already have one but didn't receive it when I borrowed a D8 from a friend and it only accepts power from the 6V jack. I'd like to get what I paid for it, $15.00 plus shipping. Mark ------------------------------ From: Mark Domyancich Subject: D8 repair services Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 14:36:28 -0500 Hello again, I mentioned in my previous post that my D8 doesn't draw power from the battery. I'm wondering if there are any places in the US (and especially the Midwest) that still repair these decks. 2 things need to be repaired with it: it needs to work with the internal battery and the 9V jack needs to be replaced or fixed because any power supply jack pops out or disconnects at the drop of a hat. Mark ------------------------------ From: rich Subject: Terrapin Closing? what will happen to the list? Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 16:44:35 -0400 Is Terrapin Tapes really closing? I heard it from a good source today... Rich ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Terrapin Closing? what will happen to the list? Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2003 17:57:38 -0400 (EDT) > Is Terrapin Tapes really closing? Their website (www.ttapes.com) seems to indicate so; at least, they're no longer handling orders, and offering to refer customers to other suppliers. They might be back. As for dat-heads, it runs on datheads.phish.net, which appears to be Sean Kennedy's machine; I don't see why Terrapin Tapes closing should affect it. My best wishes to Ken Hays, if he's reading this (or even if he isn't). Seth ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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