DAT-heads Digest #877
Contents:
Re: Mini-me or Sound Device 722 ("JASON BRANTLEY")
FS:radiohead san diego tix 9/28 (last minute) (rob landis)
Re: Mini-me or Sound Device 722 (Michael Miller)
SCI Alanta Fox 9-26-03 ("Dan Boardman")
Re: hyper-cardiod mic questions (Michael Miller)
John Zorn @ Tonic-50th Birthday Celebration ("Bruce Burnett")
Re: Mini-me or Sound Device 722 (Seth Breidbart)
dat to computer transferring problems (Andrew S Fogelsong)
latest masters ("willer")
FS: Schoeps mics, etc. ("brandon_ally@hms.harvard.edu")
From: "JASON BRANTLEY" <jbboulder@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Mini-me or Sound Device 722
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 02:08:38 -0600
IMO... This is a no-brainer. If the Sound Devices HD Recorders live up to
their expectations they will make DAT recorders obsolete, as if they weren't
already. Your talking a SD quality pre-amp > A to D (that should be worth
it's salt,from the early reviews) > to Hard Drive. All in a device smaller
than a brick. This device is the stealthers dream! Wait it out...
JB
>
>From: "Migs" Subject: Mini-me or Sound Device 722 Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003
>18:08:51 -0400
>
>I'm wondering if I should purchase a mini-me and use it with my VAIO srx87
>via USB or purchase the Sound Device 722? Not sure I would really need the
>744T it's a little over kill for concert recording. I want to start getting
>away from using DAT. Please tell me your opinion on this matter.
>
>
>
>Thanks, Migs
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From: rob landis <pyramid_down@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS:radiohead san diego tix 9/28 (last minute)
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 03:48:05 -0700 (PDT)
ok, i feel like i'm coming down w/ the flu so i'm
wondering if someone wants my radiohead tix for san
diego (chula vista, coors ampitheater) 9/28....it's in
the 300 section, seats 304, J17 and 18....3rd section
from the stage, center. i live in L.A. and you'd have
to pick up the tickets here.... each ticket was 46.50
plus 9.70 in ticketbastard fees. i only ask what i
paid. plz don't call early in the morning, preferably
not before noon, if at all possible. (323) 655 8186.
rob
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From: Michael Miller <mcmiller@cox.net>
Subject: Re: Mini-me or Sound Device 722
Date: 28 Sep 2003 12:37:54 -0400
My choice is to wait for the 722 instead of going with a laptop and
minime. The 722 is going to be much more stealthy and durable than a
laptop. But the 722 release date has been pushed back to 1Q04 and you
might need something now.
From: "Dan Boardman" <boardman@bellsouth.net>
Subject: SCI Alanta Fox 9-26-03
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:56:58 -0400
Does anyone have a copy? Have lot's to trade - my list:
http://www.tapercities.com/Jambands/doberman/
please contact me off list - boardman@bellsouth.net
From: Michael Miller <mcmiller@cox.net>
Subject: Re: hyper-cardiod mic questions
Date: 28 Sep 2003 13:44:35 -0400
I ran 150s (essentially 185s) for fall other ones tour last year. I ran
heads up comparison tapes (split between sets) with KM140s, KMR81i,
TLM170s and ran a back-up rig with B&K4023. I also ran different
configurations with the 150s and the differences are obvious. All the
following advice is backed up by the recordings. In general, if you are
up close and the recording is important to you, use the DPAs.
If you want some comparison tracks, have your friend contact me off
list.
> a. what is optimal placement of the mics on the stand (x/y... ortf...)
I got my best results going just wide of the stacks. I found the
neumann small condenser hypers to be too bright when directly on axis.
But don't expect alot of off axis HF attenuation. From the position
where the 185s should be used, I would not recommend ORTF. I would
recommend somthing more like DIN.
> b. what is optimal positioning in the venue? centerd? if off to a side - how
> should i point the mics?
Hypers are good from the back of a crappy venue. Use them for their
rejection properties. If you are off to the side, point the mics just
wide of the stack. The hypers will yield a tape with good clear sound
but they have a alot of bass rolloff. If you have the 4060s and you can
get centered and close, leave those 153s at home.
>
> c. i was told when using the cardiod mics - to point them just wide of the
> stacks... how should i point the hypers? assuming i was centered - at the
> stacks? just wide? wider than if i was using cardiods?
>
Point them more narrow than you would cardioids when running from the
back. Personally, I would not run cards pointing just wide of the stack
in all circumstances.
> d. can i use the hypercardiods close to a stack? if so - how would i point
> them? i like taping close to a stack to minimize crowd noise - and for the
> 'in
> your face' recordings...
Close to the stack, use the DPAs if the mix is good. The 150s/185s have
alot of bass roll off and I found the recordings to lack bass unless the
source had **alot** of bass. Again, use the 185s for their rejection
properties. If you are infront of the stack and there is an
overwhelming amount of bass, then the 185s can make a nice tape. But
they would not be my first choice for work up close.
From: "Bruce Burnett" <peacefrog@primusvan.zzn.com>
Subject: John Zorn @ Tonic-50th Birthday Celebration
Reply-To: peacefrog@primusvan.zzn.com
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:26:51 -0700
I should be receiving around 20 of the shows he did @ Tonic, around
mid-October. Please email me if interested in a trade to complete the
entire run of shows, or at least try to get the complete run.
Peace,
Bruce
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From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Mini-me or Sound Device 722
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 14:31:45 -0400 (EDT)
My choice (arrived yesterday; I haven't even had time to set it up and
play with it yet) is the Core Sounds devices. Total cost (everything
but mics) is well under the 722, though I have only 5 GB storage.
For stealth, it's a big win: you deon't have to hid your iPAQ.
Seth
From: Andrew S Fogelsong <fridge3@juno.com>
Subject: dat to computer transferring problems
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 15:15:19 -0500
This one's pretty weird.
First off, here's the gear I use:
taping:
Sonic Studios DSM-6S mics
PA-6LC3 powering module/bass roll-off
Sony PCM-M1 DAT recorder
transferring:
Tascam DA-20mkII home DAT recorder
Monster Cable coax cable
Delta Dio 2496 digital soundcard
Cool Edit Pro 2.0
I taped Yo La Tengo at an in-store at 33 Degrees here in Austin. The
levels were really low. The levels while the band played was anywhere
from -30db to -12db, except for the last two songs when Ira hit the
distortion pedal and Georgia was hitting the drums pretty hard - the
levels hit 0db many times. The applause between songs was hitting 0db
and clipping a bit during the woos and yeahs. So it goes... I
transferred the DAT, spent about an hour editing it - hard limiting,
amplification, fades, etc... After all was said and done, I noticed a
few small dropouts. I went back and listened to the tape - no dropouts.
That's okay, this happens to me sometimes. I deleted the file and I was
going to retransfer it. Before I did that, I did a boot-time
defragmentation using Diskeeper. I'd been needing to defrag my hard
drive for a while. So when I tried to retransfer the DAT, Cool Edit
wouldn't record anything. It would just be silence. I checked the M
Audio Delta Control Panel, which is an application that I have to use to
tell the soundcard what sample rate to expect, what input I'll be using,
what output to use, etc... It showed levels, so I know the soundcard was
receiving the signal. I uninstalled and reinstalled both Cool Edit Pro
and my soundcard. It still doesn't transfer. I just taped a show last
night, and the transfer this morning worked fine. I tried to transfer
the Yo La Tengo show again and it still won't transfer. So I decided to
use my M1 to transfer the show. That didn't work either. My last option
was to play the DAT in my M1, go out the line out to my Tascam, and out
the coax to my soundcard. This works for some reason. I don't know why.
I hate having to stick an analog transfer in there, especially since
I'll have to edit this show, raising the levels by upwards of 15db if I
recall correctly. There will be enough hiss as it is, and I'm using a
Radio Shack cable. Does anyone have an idea of what went wrong? What
could the defragmentation have done? Could it be the DAT tape?
cheers,
Andrew
BWT:
Mountain Goats 9/27/2003
The Parish; Austin, TX
SBD>D8(line out)>M1
I'll do b&p's, the first two replies
US residents only
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From: "willer" <willer@vip.cybercity.dk>
Subject: latest masters
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 23:06:15 +0200
... latest masters for trade - interested in similar stuff :
Vic Chesnutt + Howe Gelb - Aarhus Voxhall, Denmark 15. sep. 2003
sbd -> md -> optical ->hd (2xcdr)
Vic Chesnutt - Copenhagen Loppen, Denmark 23. Sep. 2003
sbd -> md -> optical ->hd (2xcdr)
others
Calexico .- Copenhagen Amager Bio, Denmark 23. apr. 2003
sbd -> md -> optical ->hd (2xcdr)
Bonnie Prince billy - Roskilde Festival, Denmark 29. jun 2003
aud -> md + core cardiod ->optical -> hd (2xcdr)
Bonnie Prince Billy - Malm=F8 Folkets Park, Sweden
aud -> md + core cardiod ->optical -> hd (2xcdr)
Willer
From: "brandon_ally@hms.harvard.edu" <Brandon_Ally@hms.harvard.edu>
Subject: FS: Schoeps mics, etc.
Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 18:05:45 -0400
Hello all,
I am getting out. I now have two children and a private practice to
maintain. I unfortunately have to get rid of my gear... Everything I am
selling has the original sales receipt and a log of usage. The majority of
the merchandise was purchased from Sonic Sense, or PostHorn (schoeps)... ANY
questions, please e-mail me and we can discuss. Pictures are available.
MICS
2 x SCHOEPS cmc-6 microphone amps
2 x SCHOEPS mk-4 cardioid caps
2 x SCHOEPS SG20 stand adapters
2 x SCHOEPS A20s shockmounts (elastic)
2 x SCHOEPS "fuzzy" windscreens
1 jewel box for mics + plastics individual cases for caps
1 Sambra Som S2 mic bar
1 Vark Bar
2 x 15' Monster Cable microphone cables
would love to get $2000 for all of this, make me an offer
Brandon Ally
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