DAT-heads Digest #932, Volume #6 Sat, 22 Nov 03 10:50:01 EST Contents: Fostex D-5 repair? (Colin Liston) Re: Skeriks Syncopated Taint ("Ethan Alpert") FUJI disks ("Thomas Avallone") ISO: Patcher from JK Labs rig at Mule, 10/25, Vic Theatre ("Jon Ice") tom waits 2003 ("oleg grinshpan") skerick's stinky sextet (Joshua) Re: Internal DAT-Drive transfer quality, experiences? (rich plumb) Re: Internal DAT-Drive transfer quality, experiences? (rich plumb) Re: Sony DAT machine(s) meltdown (Eugene Hu) Re: Internal DAT-Drive transfer quality, experiences? ("Dan Leehr") TY CD-R at good prices (Keith Bode) Fuji Media (Keith Bode) chris rock tapers? (sec1968@ezl.com) Office Max Fuji Sale (Geoff/Morgan) Question about A/D chip (udo) DAT offer closed ("Chris Cage") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Colin Liston Subject: Fostex D-5 repair? Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:17:19 -0500 (EST) Anyone know where or who can fix my Fostex? anyone....anyone? thanks colin ------------------------------ From: "Ethan Alpert" Subject: Re: Skeriks Syncopated Taint Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:38:34 -0700 They did not allow taping in Denver nor did they allow it in Boston last week (heard this from a friend who personally got turned away) Word is some taper apparently pissed them off and now we're all banned. Remember taping is a privilege not a right... -e > > > > > From: "Steve Savage" > > Subject: Skeriks Syncopated Taint > > Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:27:58 -0500 > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Just wondering if anyone knows Skerik and crew's taping policy. Was going > to > > catch them in Cleveland on Saturday and was hoping to get video. Anyone > know > > what's allowed? Anyone caught them already? How long is the set? Any info > is > > greatly appreciated. Feel free to respond offline unless others are > > interested. > > > > many thanks fellow DATheads > > > > Steve > ------------------------------ From: "Thomas Avallone" Subject: FUJI disks Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 16:43:01 +0000 Sorry Heads.....Don't shoot the messenger.... I learned about Fuji getting rid of TY's a couple of months back, and emailed them about my displeasure - and to find out WHY they were dropping the Japan made disks. There LAME response was their optical disks are always tested and approved for durability and longevity, so the Tywainese disks are here to stay....... So....it looks like Fuji has turned their back on us. "I've heard there's joy untold Lays open like a road In front of me" ~ PJ Harvey http://www.tav2367.20m.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Set yourself up for fun at home! Get tips on home entertainment equipment, video game reviews, and more here. http://special.msn.com/home/homeent.armx ------------------------------ From: "Jon Ice" Subject: ISO: Patcher from JK Labs rig at Mule, 10/25, Vic Theatre Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:43:41 -0500 hey, i'm looking for the guy that was patched out of my rig at the second night govt mule vic theatre show. my laptop 24/48 copy was fubar'd and my dat backup didn't happen either. :o( i know you've got the full source, and have patched out of my rig in the past for a few robert randolph shows. just can't remember your name right now. drop me a line because i need to get my hands on that tape. thanks! jon ice _________________________________________________________________ From the hottest toys to tips on keeping fit this winter, you’ll find a range of helpful holiday info here. http://special.msn.com/network/happyholidays.armx ------------------------------ From: "oleg grinshpan" Subject: tom waits 2003 Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:59:37 -0800 hi there. i was unable to respond to all the requests for these, sorry. they are now available for bt dl on stg. if that is too cryptic, contact me off list. thanks. _________________________________________________________________ Share holiday photos without swamping your Inbox. Get MSN Extra Storage now! http://join.msn.com/?PAGE=features/es ------------------------------ From: Joshua Subject: skerick's stinky sextet Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 09:17:24 -0800 (PST) I tried to tape them at Quixotes a few weeks back and they weren't allowing it. He first said that it was because they had new material that they didn't want on the Internet. He added that his soundguy had some bad experiences with tapers and put the k'bosh on it. His show wasn't that great anyway. Garage O'Trois was much better (but booted us back to the section after making a OTS tape of Sex Mob). -Josh __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree ------------------------------ From: rich plumb Subject: Re: Internal DAT-Drive transfer quality, experiences? Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 10:59:58 -0800 (PST) --- Malcolm Hathaway wrote: > > I'm looking to improve the quality of the transferred files, getting rid of > infrequent but ongoing popping and clicking in the transferred WAV. I've > done all the optimizing I can, and I still get the occasional click, which > upon close examination (Samplitude) turns out to be either missing samples, > or something (dramatic step changes in sample size from one sample to the > next). I'm hoping that a DAT drive will be able to transfer the WAV like a > data file, with some error checking, etc. Is there a program like EAC > (Exact Audio Copy) that can be used for these transfers, which will > "re-read" data that looks suspect? The original recordings don't have pops > and clicks, just to clarify. > Sorry I can't answer your questions about the internal DAT deck, but I had similar problems. What I discovered was that there were errors on my tape. I could play the cd and it would sound fine. I could clone to another dat deck and that would sound fine. The transfer to computer would have dropouts or clicks or whatever. It turned out that my source tape had some errors on them. The errors were minor enough that the deck could fix them on playback. What is interesting and mystifying to me is that the errors would somehow be repaired when cloning to a second deck, but not when digitally copying to the computer. Rich __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: rich plumb Subject: Re: Internal DAT-Drive transfer quality, experiences? Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:01:12 -0800 (PST) --- Malcolm Hathaway wrote: > > I'm looking to improve the quality of the transferred files, getting rid of > infrequent but ongoing popping and clicking in the transferred WAV. I've > done all the optimizing I can, and I still get the occasional click, which > upon close examination (Samplitude) turns out to be either missing samples, > or something (dramatic step changes in sample size from one sample to the > next). I'm hoping that a DAT drive will be able to transfer the WAV like a > data file, with some error checking, etc. Is there a program like EAC > (Exact Audio Copy) that can be used for these transfers, which will > "re-read" data that looks suspect? The original recordings don't have pops > and clicks, just to clarify. > Sorry I can't answer your questions about the internal DAT deck, but I had similar problems. What I discovered was that there were errors on my tape. I could play the cd and it would sound fine. I could clone to another dat deck and that would sound fine. The transfer to computer would have dropouts or clicks or whatever. It turned out that my source tape had some errors on them. The errors were minor enough that the deck could fix them on playback. What is interesting and mystifying to me is that the errors would somehow be repaired when cloning to a second deck, but not when digitally copying to the computer. Rich __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Eugene Hu Subject: Re: Sony DAT machine(s) meltdown Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 11:15:08 -0800 I'm guessing that one of your decks had really dirty heads and playing the same tape between all the decks moved the dirt around, or perhaps that first 90m tape is/was shedding and dirtied up all the decks. Try wet cleaning one of the decks and see if that helps; if it does clean the rest of them. You can try a dry cleaning tape, but the decks sound like they're dirty enough you should just open them up and clean by hand. -Eugene ------------------------------ From: "Dan Leehr" Subject: Re: Internal DAT-Drive transfer quality, experiences? Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 15:18:13 -0500 I picked up a used Conner DDS drive on ebay, for $12 (yes, twelve), with 7 tapes and a cleaning cartridge. I have an adaptec SCSI card (for my plexwriter) that works great. http://www.ncf.carleton.ca/~aa571/dat2wav.htm http://www.xs4all.nl/~heemsker/fup/ found the firmware on the web and it works fine with DAT2WAV. I extracted one DAT just fine (48KHz, date/timestamps from a TCD-D10. And it read at 2x). I got another DAT to extract, but there was diginoise all over it. I don't know if it's because the drive was used, or if it was on the tape. I only needed it for a couple things, and for $12, it was a steal. As for the software, DAT2WAV reports errors as they are found. Sometimes they're audible, sometimes they are not. There is also error correction, but I don't know if it's that useful. There are a couple other pieces of software, but I don't think there's anything that re-reads with the persistence of EAC. You could always just read it twice and md5sum the files. I undertsand the sony drives can extract at 4x, but they're quite expensive. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.542 / Virus Database: 336 - Release Date: 11/18/2003 ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: TY CD-R at good prices Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 12:29:26 -0800 Please do not reply to me about this, unless you don't like it. All the info you need is in here for cheap TY media. One of the Vendors who sells a substantial amout of media, Media Supply has set up a deal for traders to get TY media, plain silver backed discs, a spindle of 100 for $25. Before Fuji, HP, and TDK sold a few packs of TY media with their own brand on them, I was buying this media. Joe had sent an e-mail to me several times about how to get the offer out to another list I am on. He set up a link that was for members of trading lists to get the deal. So far, I have just been a kind mouthpiece, and helped Joe get the word out, and also had discussions with him about where to set the price to attract traders, and am not reimbursed, or working for Media Supply. Hey Joe, how bout sending me a spindle or 2 for helping get the deal rolling? Anyway, this e-mail is cc'ed to Joe, and here is a link to write to him to get the TY deal. Joe Navalance Please e-mail Joe, not me. Keith ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Fuji Media Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:04:05 -0800 Fuji CD-R Media is now made in Taiwan, in the same factories that make a bunch of other trash media various CD-R Traders, burner's etc, have come to despise. I haven't gotten any of this Media yet, and certainly won't be buying any. It will probably pretty much end my days of CD-R trading, as I'm not fond of using god media and getting trash in return. I've found that if the word gets out that Maxell, Sony, TDK etc are selling some TY media, people universally tell me their media of that brand is TY media, then I open an envelope and get some CMC Magnetics or other trash, after I sent out 10, 15 20 or some quantity of TY media. I'm usually happy to get the music from, and dump the discs. I once, about 5 or more years ago in my early days of CD-R burning, and had a Mitsumi 4x12 junk burner, took half a spindle of Imation media and pitched it in the trash unused becaus most of them came out unplayable on my Sony CD Carosel. Don't ask me for them, they are prperly burried in a landfill, and have been for years. Hopefully, in the futue I will be upgrading that. I now burn on a couple of Plextor SCSI burners, and have for years. Bottom line is Fuji media, unless you get a old stoc cake box that say's "Made in Japan" in nearly microscopic letters near the bottom of the label, is the same trash as any other media on the market. Also, it was very simple to visually identify the TY made media in the past. Yet most people I did trades with didn't know how to visually identify the media, and if I explained hw to tell the difference to a potential trading partner, I can't think of an instance where the person I explained how to identify the TY made media visually gave me an honest reply, and sent the media they said they were sending. So, I stopped doing what pissed me off, and only exchanged disc with people I knew well. Over the last year and a half most of the CD's I mailed I just gave to people, and many of them did the same, we didn't count disc for disc. I also gave music to friends outside the trading community. Anyway, enough ranting, I posted where to get TY media at a good price in another post a few minutes ago. Please, for the god of the tradiing community, and to send a message to Fuji, don't buy their CD-R media. Keith ------------------------------ From: sec1968@ezl.com Subject: chris rock tapers? Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2003 18:09:17 -0600 Hi all. I had a friend who went and saw Chris Rock at The Fox Theatre in St. Louis wednesday night, and asked if I could find him a copy. I don't really see anyone post about taping comedians and speakers of any kind, but this is the place to ask. Please drop me a line if you happen to have this show, or any other recent Chris Rock. Thanks. shane My home page http://www.ezl.com/~sec1968/ sec1968@ezl.com (home) shane.calhoon@anheuser-busch.com (work) 314-765-9187 (work) ------------------------------ From: Geoff/Morgan Subject: Office Max Fuji Sale Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 00:24:19 -0600 The Fuji CDs on sale at Office Max this week are MADE IN TAIWAN, not the beloved Japan. 2 Stores, all the same CDs. My guess is all the stores are selling the Taiwan discs. Geoff ------------------------------ From: udo Subject: Question about A/D chip Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 05:12:51 -0800 (PST) Hello, It appears like I am looking for the holy grail: A low-power single chip solution for CD-quality A/D that transmits S/PDIF. The chips I found so far are either unavailable in low quantities (just need a few), power hungry or provide just a part of the solution (Good A/D, e.g. Philips UDA1361 or low-power I2S to S/PDIF: Cirrus CS8406-2, unavailable). Who can help me find a usable solution with a sound quality that is at least at the level of a Sony M-1? An integrated solution (clock, preamp/atennuation) would help but is not necessary. Please post here or email me if you're interested or have a solution, a hint or a tip. Kind regards, Udo __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "Chris Cage" Subject: DAT offer closed Reply-To: ccage420@earthlink.net Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 07:14:12 -0600 Thanks to all who responded on my used DAT offer...looks like i have a buyer. Have saved names of those who responded, and will offer more DATs to you folks very soon. Peace, Chris Cage ccage420@earthlink.net Why Wait? 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