DAT-heads Digest #944
Contents:
ISO: Allman Brothers September '03 Berkeley,CA (Alex Coluzzi)
Sharpies ("Charles Quinn")
giving bands copies (sec1968@ezl.com)
Gimme a break (Keith Bode)
HUM - Furnace Fest 8/16/03 (KindTaper@aol.com)
Failure shows (KindTaper@aol.com)
Re: Insufficient packaging ("Gary Davis")
Allman Bros/Pearl Jam/U2 on FreeView ("Gary Davis")
Lossless digital jukebox / archive system... ? (Jesse Lackey)
* any other Gang of Four traders? ("Music Is Special")
Steve Kimock Productions Announces Download Service for Live Music ("Charlie Miller")
Huge Dat B+P Offer ("Charlie Miller")
ISO Budgie & Michael Schenker (SeaBassT1@aol.com)
FA: Schoeps CMC6/MK41 pair ("Clingan, John \(COMFIN, RE\)")
* ISO Tulsa or Little Rock taper for 12/20 ("Music Is Special")
extra dats for trade (Rahul Krishnaswamy)
FS: Great Dead/Jerry DATs For The Price Of Blanks ("james helgy")
WTD: Zorn September 2003 shows (Ray)
ISO Recent Simon & Garfunkel Shows (Marv Van Haitsma)
FS: 2 IPAQ packages for PDAudio-CF (Eric Eckberg)
From: Alex Coluzzi <alex@kabella.org>
Subject: ISO: Allman Brothers September '03 Berkeley,CA
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:42:20 -0800 (PST)
Hi,
I've been unable to find these shows and would really really like to
acquire them. Any format is fine. I have plenty to trade if you're into
non taper friendly rock bands and use only the finest microphones when
recording.
Please someone trade with me.
thank you!
Alex
P.S. for the dude looking for Eminem and Ludacris for his neice, drop me a
line.
From: "Charles Quinn" <cmquinn@mindspring.com>
Subject: Sharpies
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:26:36 -0800
The Sanford - sharpie manufacturer - recommends their fine point sharpie on
their website. A few years back I had emailed Sanford and their spokesman
said they talked to the science staff and they recommended the Vis-a-Vis
product. They must have since changed their minds - maybe disc material has
changed or they have better data. I was an instructor for awhile and
sharpies ran on plastic overheads over time. The Vis-a-Vis marked overhead
slides did not. I have used the V-a-V overhead slide pen since with no runs
on my discs. A search on the archive for Sanford should bring up my old
posts.
Chuck Quinn
From: sec1968@ezl.com
Subject: giving bands copies
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:36:35 -0600
I guess i'll relate a story here. There's a STL area Rush tribute band called Thunderhead
(www.thunderheadrush.com), who i'd taped a couple times in stealth mode. The drummer had been trolling a couple
Rush trader sites, came across my list and saw that I had their shows listed. He emailed and phoned, and we agreed
that i'd give them a couple of the shows I taped, and i've also taped their past 2 shows, video & SBD access as well.
And quite a few of the STL local bands that i've been taping recently, i've seen open for taper friendly bands,
so i'll talk to them about their next shows, if I like what they do that is. They're usually pretty cool about it, whether
they get a copy or not.
shane
My home page http://www.ezl.com/~sec1968/
sec1968@ezl.com (home)
shane.calhoon@anheuser-busch.com (work)
314-765-9187 (work)
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Gimme a break
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:21:15 -0800
>
>
>As one writer on this list reprinted the quality statement of Fuji, that was on both the Taiwan and Japan disks, reinforces my point that it depends on the quality standards of the manufacturer - they should most definitely be the same no matter where they are made, if they are controlled by a reputable company. The disks will need to meet or exceed these standards. The processes are set up to be the same in either Japanese or Taiwanese soil. You only have to worry if you are using generic product, or something like that.
>
I almost never trade any more. The pervasiveness of this type of
mindset is the main reason why. If it comes off the CMC Magnetic's
line, it the same trash if it's branded, generic, or whatever. The same
with Ritek, Princo and TDK, Maxell, Sony, Fuji. If you throw a bucket
in the same shit hole twice, you get 2 buckets of the same shit.
>
>Don't want to imply anything here, but it also depends on the quality of the CD burner. I have never had a burn error with either my HP or Sony drives, even when using the el cheapo silver disks (at one time, but don't use them anymore).
>
I'll state it clearly, my opinion, the opinion of the person who wrote
EAC, and many others. After Plextor, quality goes downhill fast.
Several years ago I was pretty active in a trading group. A large
quantity of the shows spread in that group came from myself and another
person. The other person had better connections for uncirculated
material. He did all of his burning on a Tascam Standalone. He posted
he was looking for a good deal on a burner. I wrote back to him and
told him I woould organize a collection and get him a Plextor SCSI
burner. Virtually everyone in the group wanted him to have a Plextr
SCSI burner. He said fine. Then, he made a deal with a guy who was
selling his HP to buy a Plextor SCSI burner. The guy selling the HP
told the potential beneficiary of our collection that the HP was as god
as a Plextor. He was selling a 12x HP to get a 12x Plextor. I said "If
te HP is as good as the Plextor, how come he is selling the HP to get a
Plextor the same speed?" DUH. He insisted on the HP, I collected the
money, paid for the HP, which pissed off a number of people. 6 months
later the guy bought the Plextor we were trying to give him. I was out
of the group then. I had enough BS. I still have a Plextr 8x20 SCSI,
that has to have burned 4,000 high quality CD's, and a 12x10x32. If you
are not using a Plextor Ultraplex CD-ROM, you are introducing errors
every time you perform DAE. Your ROM isn't acurate enough to be able to
read that it made errors. That's not just my opinion.
Doesn't anyone write about DAT in here anymore?
Keith
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: HUM - Furnace Fest 8/16/03
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:27:07 -0500
I have a video of this show, and the audio is rough.
Does anyone have a DAT or MD source that sounds pretty good?
They can be sync'd together and it would make the video much more enjoyable.
Please let me know if you have an alternate source.
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@Aol.com
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Failure shows
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:29:25 -0500
I would love to find a good FM or SBD where they play stuff off of Fantastic Planet. Please let me know if you can help.
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
p.s. also looking for one of the Tool ALD's that are going around and the 11/16/02 show from Oklahoma in case my current sources fall through. Thanks.
From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: Insufficient packaging
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:44:06 -0800
Regarding those people who just wrap a piece of paper around five
CDs and throw them in an unpadded envelope, I just wanted to
admit, I am one of those people!
Since the CDs are literally cheaper than the postage and
packaging used to ship them, I'd rather replace one or two
damaged shipments than spend twice as much money (and time)
on every package.
If you ever get a damaged shipment from me (or anyone else), if
you *nicely* ask them to replace it, instead of resenting that
person for years, I/they will probably replace it ASAP and even
throw in a few extra discs for the hassle. (Though realistically, all
the hassle of a damaged shipment belongs to the sender! The
hassle for the recipient is a single email).
For foreign trades, it makes sense to use better packing because
the shipping is expensive etc, BUT, one or two CDs in a flat
envelope with no padding can fly though customs because no one
even thinks of there being "product" in the envelope. Postage
costs are also minimal (typically 80 cents). I just wrap the CDs in
a piece of paper (or two) to keep them from bouncing around the
envelope and give slightly more protection against intrusion from
outside the envelope. I try to reuse waste paper from the laser
printer for this.
P.s. to anyone who now refuses to trade with me:
Of course I will pack things anyway you want if you insist and/or
supply the packing ;-)
--Gary
From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Allman Bros/Pearl Jam/U2 on FreeView
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:48:55 -0800
DirecTV channel 103 is presenting these three concerts continually
every day throughout December. Free to "Total Choice"
subscribers. I'm pretty sure all 3 are commercial DVD releases,
but they are still great to listen to in the background when not
watching TV !
Speaking of music DVDs, I haven't seen a DVD from Mars Volta in
stores even though they ran three songs of what looked like a DVD
on M2's new music dvd show. The three songs were kick-ass so
we can only hope the whole concert gets released.
--Gary
From: Jesse Lackey <jesse@celestialaudio.com>
Subject: Lossless digital jukebox / archive system... ?
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:02:47 -0500
Hello all,
It is a bit tangental to DATs but I'm sure someone out there has thought
about this.
What I'd like to do is make losslessly-compressed versions of all my CDs
and some DAT tapes to create an ever-growing digital archive. Something
along the lines of a standard .mp3 jukebox but with the following
improvements:
1. Lossless digital compress using shorten, FLAC (?), or Sonic Foundry's
format, whatever it is called.
2. Reading the TOC for CDs to get the "pregap" information, so when
playing a whole "disc" of separate tracks it is possible to pause (or
not) between songs identically to how the cd would play.
3. Getting the song titles and album info from CDDB automatically.
4. Being able to decompress and burn a CD given the tracks and TOC would
be nice too but not essential.
The motivation is my sony 400cd player is full and rather than spending
$300 for another 400cd player I'd just as soon have it all as files.
Secondarily is that it will be possible to programatically convert the
whole archive to .mp3 for playing on those ever-larger-capacity portable
players.
I'd like to "rip" each CD only once since it will be a laborious
process, and with the lossless compressed audio and the TOC, it can be
transformed into whatever makes sense down the road.
Has anyone done this?
I'm not adverse to paying for some software, but I am adverse to being
locked into someone's proprietary audio file format (like Sonic
Foundry's) and then not being able to programatically decompress /
re-encode to mp3 or ogg vorbis or whatever.
Ideas?
Thanks in advance!
Jesse
From: "Music Is Special" <musicisspecial@hotmail.com>
Subject: * any other Gang of Four traders?
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:18:18 -0600
Did some remasters and am about to remove them from the hard drive. Would
welcome the chance to meet other Gang of 4 traders I do not already know.
Also happy to trade for Au Pairs (especially the Tiffanys, Glasgow,
17.05.81 show), Romeo Void, Translator, Red Rockers, Echobelly, Kid Creole,
The Call, The Blasters, X or Men At Work that I do not have.
Send your trade list and mailing address if interested.
From: "Charlie Miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: Steve Kimock Productions Announces Download Service for Live Music
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:46:43 -0800
Steve Kimock Productions
For Immediate Release
Dec 2, 2003
Steve Kimock Productions Announces Download Service for Live Music
Today, Steve Kimock Productions officially launches a new download service
for their live music through
DigitalSoundboard.net(http://www.digitalsoundboard.net). This service
provides a revolutionary online music store that lets customers quickly
find, purchase and download high-quality live performance recordings from
the Steve Kimock Band and other Steve Kimock projects.
Steve Kimock Productions is thrilled to offer their fans the incredible
sonic quality of live performance recordings that have been professionally
mixed and mastered, using 24-bit multi-tracks whenever available. In
addition, the music store offers downloadable, original art to accompany the
recordings, as well as detailed lineage information for each recording.
For the launch of this service and due to popular demand, we are excited to
offer the SKB New Year's Eve show from 2002 (our first annual Snowball!), as
well as a few other shows from our recent Fall tour. These shows are
available for purchase and download immediately, with many more to be
offered on a regular basis in FLAC and MP3 formats.
The DigitalSoundboard.net Music Store offers completely open personal use
rights, and is heavily relying on the honor system and customer's good
karma. Steve Kimock Productions hopes that customers will abide by
copyright rules and support the artist by using this service for personal
use only, so that SKB can continue to tour and create such high-quality
recordings to share with music fans.
Thank you all for your continued support of SKB!
For more info and/or to buy a show, go to www.digitalsoundboard.net !
From: "Charlie Miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: Huge Dat B+P Offer
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:08:57 -0800
I have the following Dats to offer up for B+P.
Please only respond if you are serious.
All of the folks that responded last time flaked.
I have:
293 moe Dats
23 Dave matthews Band Dats
16 MMW Dats
20 Disco Biscuits Dats
I will NOT split them up, meaning if you want one moe dat, you gotta take
all 293.
Sorry, but the amount of time and effort it would take to split them up is
just not worth it.
Thanks...cm
From: SeaBassT1@aol.com
Subject: ISO Budgie & Michael Schenker
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:26:00 -0500
Hi Everyone
Welsh hard rockers Budgie are currently touring the UK and I'd love to hear from anyone who may have caught them on tape. Also, Michael Schenker is back out there touring and I'd be interested in any tapes of his latest effort. I've got plenty to trade. Drop me an email if you've been fortunate to see these guys.
Terry
From: "Clingan, John \(COMFIN, RE\)" <John.Clingan@gecapital.com>
Subject: FA: Schoeps CMC6/MK41 pair
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:25:02 -0500
SSIA,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2578207584&category=3D=
41466#ShippingPayment
Thanks!
John
From: "Music Is Special" <musicisspecial@hotmail.com>
Subject: * ISO Tulsa or Little Rock taper for 12/20
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:39:36 -0600
Looking for somebody who might be willing to stealth a show in Fort Smith by
The Cates, an underappreciated band often compared to The Band, who rarely
perform live. Will cover all expenses, etc. Please contact me if remotely
interested to discuss further.
thanks, e
From: Rahul Krishnaswamy <six_fourths@yahoo.com>
Subject: extra dats for trade
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:00:06 -0800 (PST)
hi,
i've got the following extras for trade, please email
lists if interested. especially looking for tapes of
the recent death cab for cutie tour and mark
burgess/chameleons stuff from 2002-03. open to dat or
cdr trades. thanks.
-rahul
Dat 1
Kitchens of Distinction - various demos, radio
sessions, etc.
Dat 2
Cocteau Twins 12/22/95 Black Session
Dat 3
Compulsion 5/17/96 Black Session
Compulsion 9/16/94 Black Session
Compulsion 11/94 Villa 65 Session
Compulsion 8/28/94 Walibi Flevo
Dat 4
Mojave 3 11/7/98 New York
Mojave 3 4/12/96 Seattle
Dat 5
Swervedriver Cutting Edge Radio Show 1992
Helium 12/16/94 Carrboro, NC
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From: "james helgy" <nutball67@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Great Dead/Jerry DATs For The Price Of Blanks
Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:23:59 -0600
I've gathered up 2 lots of GREAT shows. I'd like to get $2.95 each, as that
is what the blanks cost me here Southwest of Chicago. I'd also like to get
$4.00 for each lot for S&H.....if you get both lots, just $5.50 for both.
Good tapes.......Sony, Kao, etc.
LOT #1:
GD 1/13/78 Set2 90M
GD 4/08/78 All 90M
GD 7/08/78 Set1 & pt.set2
GD 9/16/78 Set1 60M
GD 9/16/78 Set2 60M
GD 4/16/78 Set2 90M
GD 9/15/78 Set2 60M
JGB 7/22/79 Set1 90M
JGB 6/26/82 All 90M
Garcia & Grisman
8/25/91 All 90M
LOT #2
GD 5/11/72 Set1 60M
GD 8/22/72 All 60M
GD 8/24/72 Set1 60M
GD 9/21/72 Set1 60M
GD 9/21/72 Set2 60M
GD 3/21/73 Set1 60M
GD 3/21/73 Set2 60M
GD 6/18/83 Set1 60M
GD 6/18/83 Set2 60M
GD 6/16/85 All 90M
ALL Great shows! Mostly SBDs. Lemmee know. also at
jameshelgerson@sbcglobal.net .
.
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From: Ray <gonghead@yahoo.com>
Subject: WTD: Zorn September 2003 shows
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:51:23 -0800 (PST)
Preferably on CDR. Have much to trade.
Thanx
Ray
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From: Marv Van Haitsma <dat1joker@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO Recent Simon & Garfunkel Shows
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:00:04 -0800 (PST)
List,
I'm just searching for a few recordings of the recent
Simon & Garfunkel shows.
If you have a copy of one of these shows and it sounds
pretty decent....feel free to e-mail me off line for
possible trades.
Thanks in advance & Rock On!!
Marv
PS-I'll want complete shows....
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From: Eric Eckberg <shmurg@yahoo.com>
Subject: FS: 2 IPAQ packages for PDAudio-CF
Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:40:57 -0800 (PST)
I have 2 IPAQ packages to sell for use with the
PDAudio-CF.
**NOTE: The PDAudio-CF does NOT come with either of
these.
I bought these two for testing, and are my extras.
They work identical.
Package 1: $200 shipped
IPAQ 3700 series PDA (stylus hit/miss staying in
slot-NO big deal)
HP AC adapter and usb cradle
serial cable
2 cases
power cable to use with Ecocharge 6v system.
1 licensed copy of Pocco Witchita full version
(license follows IPAQ, not individual) You will get
the serial, it will not work with other systems.
Package 2: $515 shipped
IPAQ 3800 series PDA
HP AC adapter and cradle
power cable to use with Ecocharge 6v system
1 licensed copy of Pocco Witchita full version
(license follows IPAQ, not individual) You will get
the serial, it will not work with other systems.
HP Dual PC slot PC card expansion slot.
HP external keyboard
Case (for use with expansion pack)
HP WLAN PC Card
All in great shape, no scratches, , everything works
A+, no worries! Package 2 is a deal-especially if you
need a PDA for school or office use.
I take Paypal, MO.
Get in touch!
shmurg@yahoo.com
Reason for selling: This setup is becoming more and
more reliable and I no longer need to test with
multiple configs of IPAQ's. I personally still use
the 3800 series, but the 3700 series performs equal to
the 3800.
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