DAT-heads Digest #944, Volume #6 Tue, 2 Dec 03 17:50:01 EST Contents: ISO: Allman Brothers September '03 Berkeley,CA (Alex Coluzzi) Sharpies ("Charles Quinn") giving bands copies (sec1968@ezl.com) Gimme a break (Keith Bode) HUM - Furnace Fest 8/16/03 (KindTaper@aol.com) Failure shows (KindTaper@aol.com) Re: Insufficient packaging ("Gary Davis") Allman Bros/Pearl Jam/U2 on FreeView ("Gary Davis") Lossless digital jukebox / archive system... ? (Jesse Lackey) * any other Gang of Four traders? ("Music Is Special") Steve Kimock Productions Announces Download Service for Live Music ("Charlie Miller") Huge Dat B+P Offer ("Charlie Miller") ISO Budgie & Michael Schenker (SeaBassT1@aol.com) FA: Schoeps CMC6/MK41 pair ("Clingan, John \(COMFIN, RE\)") * ISO Tulsa or Little Rock taper for 12/20 ("Music Is Special") extra dats for trade (Rahul Krishnaswamy) FS: Great Dead/Jerry DATs For The Price Of Blanks ("james helgy") WTD: Zorn September 2003 shows (Ray) ISO Recent Simon & Garfunkel Shows (Marv Van Haitsma) FS: 2 IPAQ packages for PDAudio-CF (Eric Eckberg) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Alex Coluzzi Subject: ISO: Allman Brothers September '03 Berkeley,CA Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 18:42:20 -0800 (PST) Hi, I've been unable to find these shows and would really really like to acquire them. Any format is fine. I have plenty to trade if you're into non taper friendly rock bands and use only the finest microphones when recording. Please someone trade with me. thank you! Alex P.S. for the dude looking for Eminem and Ludacris for his neice, drop me a line. ------------------------------ From: "Charles Quinn" Subject: Sharpies Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 19:26:36 -0800 The Sanford - sharpie manufacturer - recommends their fine point sharpie on their website. A few years back I had emailed Sanford and their spokesman said they talked to the science staff and they recommended the Vis-a-Vis product. They must have since changed their minds - maybe disc material has changed or they have better data. I was an instructor for awhile and sharpies ran on plastic overheads over time. The Vis-a-Vis marked overhead slides did not. I have used the V-a-V overhead slide pen since with no runs on my discs. A search on the archive for Sanford should bring up my old posts. Chuck Quinn ------------------------------ From: sec1968@ezl.com Subject: giving bands copies Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:36:35 -0600 I guess i'll relate a story here. There's a STL area Rush tribute band called Thunderhead (www.thunderheadrush.com), who i'd taped a couple times in stealth mode. The drummer had been trolling a couple Rush trader sites, came across my list and saw that I had their shows listed. He emailed and phoned, and we agreed that i'd give them a couple of the shows I taped, and i've also taped their past 2 shows, video & SBD access as well. And quite a few of the STL local bands that i've been taping recently, i've seen open for taper friendly bands, so i'll talk to them about their next shows, if I like what they do that is. They're usually pretty cool about it, whether they get a copy or not. shane My home page http://www.ezl.com/~sec1968/ sec1968@ezl.com (home) shane.calhoon@anheuser-busch.com (work) 314-765-9187 (work) ------------------------------ From: Keith Bode Subject: Gimme a break Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 20:21:15 -0800 > > >As one writer on this list reprinted the quality statement of Fuji, that was on both the Taiwan and Japan disks, reinforces my point that it depends on the quality standards of the manufacturer - they should most definitely be the same no matter where they are made, if they are controlled by a reputable company. The disks will need to meet or exceed these standards. The processes are set up to be the same in either Japanese or Taiwanese soil. You only have to worry if you are using generic product, or something like that. > I almost never trade any more. The pervasiveness of this type of mindset is the main reason why. If it comes off the CMC Magnetic's line, it the same trash if it's branded, generic, or whatever. The same with Ritek, Princo and TDK, Maxell, Sony, Fuji. If you throw a bucket in the same shit hole twice, you get 2 buckets of the same shit. > >Don't want to imply anything here, but it also depends on the quality of the CD burner. I have never had a burn error with either my HP or Sony drives, even when using the el cheapo silver disks (at one time, but don't use them anymore). > I'll state it clearly, my opinion, the opinion of the person who wrote EAC, and many others. After Plextor, quality goes downhill fast. Several years ago I was pretty active in a trading group. A large quantity of the shows spread in that group came from myself and another person. The other person had better connections for uncirculated material. He did all of his burning on a Tascam Standalone. He posted he was looking for a good deal on a burner. I wrote back to him and told him I woould organize a collection and get him a Plextor SCSI burner. Virtually everyone in the group wanted him to have a Plextr SCSI burner. He said fine. Then, he made a deal with a guy who was selling his HP to buy a Plextor SCSI burner. The guy selling the HP told the potential beneficiary of our collection that the HP was as god as a Plextor. He was selling a 12x HP to get a 12x Plextor. I said "If te HP is as good as the Plextor, how come he is selling the HP to get a Plextor the same speed?" DUH. He insisted on the HP, I collected the money, paid for the HP, which pissed off a number of people. 6 months later the guy bought the Plextor we were trying to give him. I was out of the group then. I had enough BS. I still have a Plextr 8x20 SCSI, that has to have burned 4,000 high quality CD's, and a 12x10x32. If you are not using a Plextor Ultraplex CD-ROM, you are introducing errors every time you perform DAE. Your ROM isn't acurate enough to be able to read that it made errors. That's not just my opinion. Doesn't anyone write about DAT in here anymore? Keith ------------------------------ From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: HUM - Furnace Fest 8/16/03 Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:27:07 -0500 I have a video of this show, and the audio is rough. Does anyone have a DAT or MD source that sounds pretty good? They can be sync'd together and it would make the video much more enjoyable. Please let me know if you have an alternate source. Thanks, Wes Kindtaper@Aol.com ------------------------------ From: KindTaper@aol.com Subject: Failure shows Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 23:29:25 -0500 I would love to find a good FM or SBD where they play stuff off of Fantastic Planet. Please let me know if you can help. Thanks, Wes Kindtaper@aol.com p.s. also looking for one of the Tool ALD's that are going around and the 11/16/02 show from Oklahoma in case my current sources fall through. Thanks. ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Re: Insufficient packaging Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:44:06 -0800 Regarding those people who just wrap a piece of paper around five CDs and throw them in an unpadded envelope, I just wanted to admit, I am one of those people! Since the CDs are literally cheaper than the postage and packaging used to ship them, I'd rather replace one or two damaged shipments than spend twice as much money (and time) on every package. If you ever get a damaged shipment from me (or anyone else), if you *nicely* ask them to replace it, instead of resenting that person for years, I/they will probably replace it ASAP and even throw in a few extra discs for the hassle. (Though realistically, all the hassle of a damaged shipment belongs to the sender! The hassle for the recipient is a single email). For foreign trades, it makes sense to use better packing because the shipping is expensive etc, BUT, one or two CDs in a flat envelope with no padding can fly though customs because no one even thinks of there being "product" in the envelope. Postage costs are also minimal (typically 80 cents). I just wrap the CDs in a piece of paper (or two) to keep them from bouncing around the envelope and give slightly more protection against intrusion from outside the envelope. I try to reuse waste paper from the laser printer for this. P.s. to anyone who now refuses to trade with me: Of course I will pack things anyway you want if you insist and/or supply the packing ;-) --Gary ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Allman Bros/Pearl Jam/U2 on FreeView Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 20:48:55 -0800 DirecTV channel 103 is presenting these three concerts continually every day throughout December. Free to "Total Choice" subscribers. I'm pretty sure all 3 are commercial DVD releases, but they are still great to listen to in the background when not watching TV ! Speaking of music DVDs, I haven't seen a DVD from Mars Volta in stores even though they ran three songs of what looked like a DVD on M2's new music dvd show. The three songs were kick-ass so we can only hope the whole concert gets released. --Gary ------------------------------ From: Jesse Lackey Subject: Lossless digital jukebox / archive system... ? Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 00:02:47 -0500 Hello all, It is a bit tangental to DATs but I'm sure someone out there has thought about this. What I'd like to do is make losslessly-compressed versions of all my CDs and some DAT tapes to create an ever-growing digital archive. Something along the lines of a standard .mp3 jukebox but with the following improvements: 1. Lossless digital compress using shorten, FLAC (?), or Sonic Foundry's format, whatever it is called. 2. Reading the TOC for CDs to get the "pregap" information, so when playing a whole "disc" of separate tracks it is possible to pause (or not) between songs identically to how the cd would play. 3. Getting the song titles and album info from CDDB automatically. 4. Being able to decompress and burn a CD given the tracks and TOC would be nice too but not essential. The motivation is my sony 400cd player is full and rather than spending $300 for another 400cd player I'd just as soon have it all as files. Secondarily is that it will be possible to programatically convert the whole archive to .mp3 for playing on those ever-larger-capacity portable players. I'd like to "rip" each CD only once since it will be a laborious process, and with the lossless compressed audio and the TOC, it can be transformed into whatever makes sense down the road. Has anyone done this? I'm not adverse to paying for some software, but I am adverse to being locked into someone's proprietary audio file format (like Sonic Foundry's) and then not being able to programatically decompress / re-encode to mp3 or ogg vorbis or whatever. Ideas? Thanks in advance! Jesse ------------------------------ From: "Music Is Special" Subject: * any other Gang of Four traders? Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:18:18 -0600 Did some remasters and am about to remove them from the hard drive. Would welcome the chance to meet other Gang of 4 traders I do not already know. Also happy to trade for Au Pairs (especially the Tiffanys, Glasgow, 17.05.81 show), Romeo Void, Translator, Red Rockers, Echobelly, Kid Creole, The Call, The Blasters, X or Men At Work that I do not have. Send your trade list and mailing address if interested. ------------------------------ From: "Charlie Miller" Subject: Steve Kimock Productions Announces Download Service for Live Music Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 23:46:43 -0800 Steve Kimock Productions For Immediate Release Dec 2, 2003 Steve Kimock Productions Announces Download Service for Live Music Today, Steve Kimock Productions officially launches a new download service for their live music through DigitalSoundboard.net(http://www.digitalsoundboard.net). This service provides a revolutionary online music store that lets customers quickly find, purchase and download high-quality live performance recordings from the Steve Kimock Band and other Steve Kimock projects. Steve Kimock Productions is thrilled to offer their fans the incredible sonic quality of live performance recordings that have been professionally mixed and mastered, using 24-bit multi-tracks whenever available. In addition, the music store offers downloadable, original art to accompany the recordings, as well as detailed lineage information for each recording. For the launch of this service and due to popular demand, we are excited to offer the SKB New Year's Eve show from 2002 (our first annual Snowball!), as well as a few other shows from our recent Fall tour. These shows are available for purchase and download immediately, with many more to be offered on a regular basis in FLAC and MP3 formats. The DigitalSoundboard.net Music Store offers completely open personal use rights, and is heavily relying on the honor system and customer's good karma. Steve Kimock Productions hopes that customers will abide by copyright rules and support the artist by using this service for personal use only, so that SKB can continue to tour and create such high-quality recordings to share with music fans. Thank you all for your continued support of SKB! For more info and/or to buy a show, go to www.digitalsoundboard.net ! ------------------------------ From: "Charlie Miller" Subject: Huge Dat B+P Offer Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 00:08:57 -0800 I have the following Dats to offer up for B+P. Please only respond if you are serious. All of the folks that responded last time flaked. I have: 293 moe Dats 23 Dave matthews Band Dats 16 MMW Dats 20 Disco Biscuits Dats I will NOT split them up, meaning if you want one moe dat, you gotta take all 293. Sorry, but the amount of time and effort it would take to split them up is just not worth it. Thanks...cm ------------------------------ From: SeaBassT1@aol.com Subject: ISO Budgie & Michael Schenker Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 07:26:00 -0500 Hi Everyone Welsh hard rockers Budgie are currently touring the UK and I'd love to hear from anyone who may have caught them on tape. Also, Michael Schenker is back out there touring and I'd be interested in any tapes of his latest effort. I've got plenty to trade. Drop me an email if you've been fortunate to see these guys. Terry ------------------------------ From: "Clingan, John \(COMFIN, RE\)" Subject: FA: Schoeps CMC6/MK41 pair Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:25:02 -0500 SSIA, http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3D2578207584&category=3D= 41466#ShippingPayment Thanks! John ------------------------------ From: "Music Is Special" Subject: * ISO Tulsa or Little Rock taper for 12/20 Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:39:36 -0600 Looking for somebody who might be willing to stealth a show in Fort Smith by The Cates, an underappreciated band often compared to The Band, who rarely perform live. Will cover all expenses, etc. Please contact me if remotely interested to discuss further. thanks, e ------------------------------ From: Rahul Krishnaswamy Subject: extra dats for trade Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 10:00:06 -0800 (PST) hi, i've got the following extras for trade, please email lists if interested. especially looking for tapes of the recent death cab for cutie tour and mark burgess/chameleons stuff from 2002-03. open to dat or cdr trades. thanks. -rahul Dat 1 Kitchens of Distinction - various demos, radio sessions, etc. Dat 2 Cocteau Twins 12/22/95 Black Session Dat 3 Compulsion 5/17/96 Black Session Compulsion 9/16/94 Black Session Compulsion 11/94 Villa 65 Session Compulsion 8/28/94 Walibi Flevo Dat 4 Mojave 3 11/7/98 New York Mojave 3 4/12/96 Seattle Dat 5 Swervedriver Cutting Edge Radio Show 1992 Helium 12/16/94 Carrboro, NC __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "james helgy" Subject: FS: Great Dead/Jerry DATs For The Price Of Blanks Date: Tue, 02 Dec 2003 12:23:59 -0600 I've gathered up 2 lots of GREAT shows. I'd like to get $2.95 each, as that is what the blanks cost me here Southwest of Chicago. I'd also like to get $4.00 for each lot for S&H.....if you get both lots, just $5.50 for both. Good tapes.......Sony, Kao, etc. LOT #1: GD 1/13/78 Set2 90M GD 4/08/78 All 90M GD 7/08/78 Set1 & pt.set2 GD 9/16/78 Set1 60M GD 9/16/78 Set2 60M GD 4/16/78 Set2 90M GD 9/15/78 Set2 60M JGB 7/22/79 Set1 90M JGB 6/26/82 All 90M Garcia & Grisman 8/25/91 All 90M LOT #2 GD 5/11/72 Set1 60M GD 8/22/72 All 60M GD 8/24/72 Set1 60M GD 9/21/72 Set1 60M GD 9/21/72 Set2 60M GD 3/21/73 Set1 60M GD 3/21/73 Set2 60M GD 6/18/83 Set1 60M GD 6/18/83 Set2 60M GD 6/16/85 All 90M ALL Great shows! Mostly SBDs. Lemmee know. also at jameshelgerson@sbcglobal.net . . _________________________________________________________________ Has one of the new viruses infected your computer? Find out with a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee. Take the FreeScan now! http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 ------------------------------ From: Ray Subject: WTD: Zorn September 2003 shows Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 11:51:23 -0800 (PST) Preferably on CDR. Have much to trade. Thanx Ray __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Marv Van Haitsma Subject: ISO Recent Simon & Garfunkel Shows Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 12:00:04 -0800 (PST) List, I'm just searching for a few recordings of the recent Simon & Garfunkel shows. If you have a copy of one of these shows and it sounds pretty decent....feel free to e-mail me off line for possible trades. Thanks in advance & Rock On!! Marv PS-I'll want complete shows.... ===== __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: Eric Eckberg Subject: FS: 2 IPAQ packages for PDAudio-CF Date: Tue, 2 Dec 2003 14:40:57 -0800 (PST) I have 2 IPAQ packages to sell for use with the PDAudio-CF. **NOTE: The PDAudio-CF does NOT come with either of these. I bought these two for testing, and are my extras. They work identical. Package 1: $200 shipped IPAQ 3700 series PDA (stylus hit/miss staying in slot-NO big deal) HP AC adapter and usb cradle serial cable 2 cases power cable to use with Ecocharge 6v system. 1 licensed copy of Pocco Witchita full version (license follows IPAQ, not individual) You will get the serial, it will not work with other systems. Package 2: $515 shipped IPAQ 3800 series PDA HP AC adapter and cradle power cable to use with Ecocharge 6v system 1 licensed copy of Pocco Witchita full version (license follows IPAQ, not individual) You will get the serial, it will not work with other systems. HP Dual PC slot PC card expansion slot. HP external keyboard Case (for use with expansion pack) HP WLAN PC Card All in great shape, no scratches, , everything works A+, no worries! Package 2 is a deal-especially if you need a PDA for school or office use. I take Paypal, MO. Get in touch! shmurg@yahoo.com Reason for selling: This setup is becoming more and more reliable and I no longer need to test with multiple configs of IPAQ's. I personally still use the 3800 series, but the 3700 series performs equal to the 3800. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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