DAT-heads Digest #963
Contents:
re: Sony Alignment Tapes (Klay Anderson)
stealing is stealing (h Grape Minkoff)
ISO Aerosmith 12/18/03 ****soundcheck only (ijwthstd)
Phish Dats Up for Grabs (looking to get CDs in return.) CLOSED! C ("Cook, Timothy")
Re: samsung and panasonic DVD recorders - same units ("c. howell")
wanted: any simon & garfunkle show from curr tour w/ high quality rig ("John R. Vanderpool")
M1 to Home Amp ("Tom Fuller")
DC offset ("MattB")
D7 on ebay ("tapes")
ISO Nora Jones Bonnaroo 2003 ("teasinthatbooboo")
Suggestions for Laptops with 2 PCMIA Slots for Multitrack Recording (jlizard)
Re: Samsung and Panasonic DVD Recorders and Clapton Blues (Keith Bode)
From: Klay Anderson <klay@klay.com>
Subject: re: Sony Alignment Tapes
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 09:28:48 -0700
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: sony head alignment tape...
> Seth Breidbart wrote:
>>> This is not something you could just copy either. It is precisely
>>> aligned at the factory so as to be a "standard" for what a properly
>>> aligned tape-path should produce.
>>
>>
>> I thought that parts of it were mis-aligned to specified degrees in
>> specified directions, to make it possible to determine just what the
>> head alignment is (compared with what it should be). (Either that, or
>> there was something else weird about the tape, maybe lacking some of
>> the track-following stuff; the idea is to check the raw head
>> alignment, so preventing auto-adjustment helps.)
>>
>> In any case, it's not a tape you could duplicate even with a perfectly
>> aligned drive.
>>
>> Seth
>
> I don't really know anything about the tapes so I suppose this could be
> true. I think it may be that putting the deck into "test mode 42" is
> what prevents the "auto-adjustment" stuff though. I guess I need to get
> one of these tapes and play with it; however, I don't have a "junk" M1
> to play with. I've got an old D7, but I don't have a D7 service manual
> and I don't know if it uses the same tape for alignment.
First, one does not align a DAT deck's heads. What one mechanically aligns
are the guides that determine the path of the tape as it moves around those
heads. Then one also electrically aligns the timing of the switching of the
heads as they relate to the tape moving in relation to the spinning heads.
The response of the RF section is also optimized. These procedures are not
done by "listening to the tape" or by "eyeballing the meters". One needs
actually four distinct and expensive standards tapes (made one at at time on
decks designed for the purpose), a frequency counter, a wide-band
oscilloscope, RMS voltmeter, the proper adjustment tools, the service manual
and experience. I have been servicing decks since the beginning.
Point is, leave it to professionals.
Oh, and if you really want to screw your machine up, just go ahead and muck
about in the menus and transport with a screwdriver and adjust your way to a
trip to the service shop.
--
Happy Holidays!
Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E.
Klay Anderson Audio, Inc.
800.FOR.KLAY
http://www.klay.com
From: h Grape Minkoff <the_grapeman@yahoo.com>
Subject: stealing is stealing
Reply-To: the_GrapeMan@yahoo.com
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:30:40 -0800 (PST)
If you copied the cd, then you didn't buy it and you DID cost Bod Dylan
his royalty. If you weren't going to buy it, you don't have the rights
to it and you shouldn't copy it. That's the stealing part.
Same with software.
==============================
From: acffh <morst@tds.net>
Bob Dylan can complain all he wants about me making a copy of LOVE
AND THEFT off someone, but if I was not gonna buy it anyway, it's hard
for me to believe that it actually COST him anything, since he still
has everything he did.
Let's talk!
-tom
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From: ijwthstd <ijwthstd@yahoo.com>
Subject: ISO Aerosmith 12/18/03 ****soundcheck only
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:40:44 -0800 (PST)
Hi everyone,
I participated in Aerosmiths food drive for soundcheck
promotion. Unfortunately after the 2nd (of 5) songs my
recorder shut off mysteriously and I was unable to
check it because I had a security guard in front of me
and I was right next to Joeys drum tech. The worst
part is they started taking requests, I decided not to
be my usual professional self and started yelling for
"Nobody's Fault" and THEY PLAYED IT!
Massive DAT/CDR trade list available if anyone has
this show
Thanks!
Dan
http://www.geocities.com/ijwthstd
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From: "Cook, Timothy" <Timothy.Cook@DFA.STATE.NY.US>
Subject: Phish Dats Up for Grabs (looking to get CDs in return.) CLOSED! C
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 14:39:20 -0500
offer closed. they are all gone (that was quick.)
sorry,
tim cook
From: "c. howell" <h_vargas_2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: samsung and panasonic DVD recorders - same units
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 11:59:50 -0800 (PST)
not to argue for argument's sake, but...
actually a quick check on pricegrabber.com reveals
that the Samsung is $366 shipped to my door and the
Panasonic unit is $362 shipped. so, technically, i can
get the Panasonic unit cheaper.
with many CD/DVD burners (especially in regards to PC
burners), there are often two brands which are
actually the same drive save for the name and/or style
of the faceplate. for instance, i believe there's a
LiteOn brand DVD burner that is the same as a certain
Sony brand PC DVD burner.
a while back, when 16x burners just came out, i
remember reading the Sanyo 16x CD burner was the same
as the Plextor 16x burner, or some such thing.
for whatever reason, sometimes multiple companies will
have their product all manufactured as the same thing
with a different brand name stamped on the end product
(e.g. look at how long Fujifilm had Taiyo Yuden
manufactured CDRs, and even how other brands such as
Maxell have had batches of CDRs made at the TY plant).
i won't speculate as to why multiple companies would
use identical product with only a differing brand name
(other than maybe it means less work for some research
& development teams?). maybe others would like to
share some thoughts on that aspect of your post.
regardless, the Samsung and Panasonic DVD recorders
are comparable price. ;)
From: "John R. Vanderpool"
<fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: samsung and panasonic DVD recorders - same
units
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 10:16:44 -0500 (EST)
my friend noticed that the samsung r4000 and the
Panasonic E50 are really the same unit (but the
samsung is a lot cheaper cost-wise). who is really
making these and why are they doing it this way?
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From: "John R. Vanderpool" <fish@daacdev1.gsfc.nasa.gov>
Subject: wanted: any simon & garfunkle show from curr tour w/ high quality rig
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:27:07 -0500 (EST)
have a lot to trade of other artists........ see ya.
--
thanx,
fish
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From: "Tom Fuller" <Blueyes@zoomnet.net>
Subject: M1 to Home Amp
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 18:11:07 -0500
I recorded a DAT of a concert locally recently. What is the best way to
play this tape back thru my home Amp and record it onto a CD ? What patch
cord do I need to go from the M1 into the back of my amp or Sony CD burner ?
Please see if you can help me, this is the way I will probably play my taped
shows back and somehow record them onto CDs. Also what M1 outlet jack is
used ?
Thanks, Tom
From: "MattB" <matt@mattb.net>
Subject: DC offset
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 17:05:04 -0700
I recorded Garaj Mahal last weekend to my using SP Premium AT slimlines
(AT-933) > SP BB > JB3 . It came out pretty nice, but I noticed something
I've noticed on other recordings I've made with these mics (on my former
recorder, an M1). When I look at the wave from in CoolEdit (or any other
similar app) the waveform is much longer on the tops. So if the top is
hitting 0 dB, the bottom is only peaking at -6 or so. The effect is more
pronounced in louder settings.
I've used different mics (Oktava MC012s which I've just sold) and did
not see this, so it makes me think it's the mics or battery box doing it. I
asked Chris at SP about it and he insists that it must be my soundcard (even
when I explain that the JB3 transfer doesn't go through the soundcard -
whatever) needing to be calibrated with DC offset. I just don't buy that for
the obvious reason that this never passed through my soundcard, and older
recordings that did went SPDIF from DAT to my Hoontech DSP24v which doesn't
even get resampled.
I guess I could fix it in CoolEdit by adjusting the DC offset until the
waveform is more centered, but I'm giving up headroom here. To avoid
clipping I have to keep levels lower than I would if the top wasn't so tall.
I'd like to try and fix this, and if possible I'd like to do it without
having to buy new mics (out of the question for a while).
Does anyone have any suggestions? I asked about this once in the past
and was told it was the way the SP battery box powers the mics. If I could
get away with getting a different battery box I might be able to do that.
Any suggestions appreciated. Also, LMK if anyone wants this show via FTP. It
sounds good and it was a pretty small crowd in a small club (The Eldo in
Crested Butte, Co).
Oh, and happy holidays to all, no matter what you celebrate!
Matt
"Gravity. It's not just a good idea, it's the law!"
From: "tapes" <tapes@pls-inc.com>
Subject: D7 on ebay
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 16:43:25 -0800
I am selling my D7 on ebay. Including wall-wart, 10 NEW Maxell 60M tapes,
leather case and a Core Sounds 7-pin to RCA coax cable. Reserve is set at
$125.00 including 2nd shipping.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3066669362&ssPageName=ADM
E:B:LC:US:1
From: "teasinthatbooboo" <teasinthatbooboo@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO Nora Jones Bonnaroo 2003
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:43:43 -0500
I patched and seeded this show, and a recent listen reveals a couple of
glitches... If anyone can hook me up with a copy from the 184 Neumann
source (or, realistically, any other source), please, please drop me a line.
Thanks for the BW.
SWG
From: jlizard <jlizard@direcway.com>
Subject: Suggestions for Laptops with 2 PCMIA Slots for Multitrack Recording
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 23:29:28 -0500
I am looking for suggestions for a laptop that can support 2 Nuendo Multiset
Units that will require 2 PCMIA cards. My current Alienware laptop only has
one PCMIA slot. This will need to be a very fast large hard drive for 16-20
track channel recordings mostly at 24/48 or less likely 24/96 multitrack
recordings. (I am still leary of hard drive failure and have had this
happen, so I run a 16/48 dat back up off my AD2K+). I am open to any
suggestions.
Is anyone out there running 2 Nuendo multiset units together for more track
channels for multi-track recordings?
Also does anyone know if the stand alone hard disk recorders are having
similiar issues with hard drive failure while running 16-24 track
recordings?
From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Samsung and Panasonic DVD Recorders and Clapton Blues
Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 21:40:30 -0800
>
>
>my friend noticed that the samsung r4000 and the Panasonic E50 are
>really the same unit (but the samsung is a lot cheaper cost-wise). who
>is really making these and why are they doing it this way?
>
I hadn't even checked out the Samsung unit. Samsung has built to much
crap, and I don't even look at their stuff. I had gotten a copy of
"Nothin But The Blues" with Eric Clapton, filmed by Scorcese, in 1994,
on VHS. Warner had made some VHS copies and was going to release it,
then didn't. I managed to locate a copy, and bought it. I woould like
to transfer it to DVD. I've looked at the Panasonic's, but cash is just
to tight now. I'll check out the Samsung's. I woould definitely take
donations to the cause of getting the DVD recrder for copies of the
film, but I think that would be bootlegging. The Panasonic unit's only
burn DVD-R and DVD-RAM, so there might be compatability problems with
peoples DVD player's. I was certainly happy to see the VHS tape for
sale on eBay. This is suppsed to be a copy of the original film, not
the PBS broadcast. I was bummed when I got it. The case was broken. I
sent it out to be repaired, and I hope to have it shortly. I still
haven't seen it.
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