DAT-heads Digest #965

Contents:
  need speaker recommendations for listening to audience recordings.  please! ("Kevin Kachel")
  Re: The first taper? (Aaron Heller)
  stealing is stealing (carlos martinez)
  re: Transfer of VHS tape ("Gary Davis")
  Post error (KindTaper@aol.com)
  ISO a couple shows (Adevccpj@cs.com)


From: "Kevin Kachel" <crystalhaze@hotmail.com>
Subject: need speaker recommendations for listening to audience recordings.  please!
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 13:30:03 -0500

hey guys.
i'm ready to take the plunge into high end (i quess really low-mid high end) 
audio.  right now i have an old akai aa-a25 receiver and a magnavox cd 
player.  i've decided that i want to buy speakers first and spend about 
$600.  i listen mostly to audience recordings and would like to optimize my 
system for them (FOB, OTS, on-stage)... but i do listen to sbds quite often, 
too.
i've been becoming very frustrated trying to find people who can offer up 
speaker advice who listen to audience recordings themselves.  i really want 
to start auditioning speakers soon, but i'de like to narrow down my choices  
as there are so many.  if you need to know specifically what i listen to, 
click my list below my name.
after i have speakers i will buy a 2 channel stereo preamp and power amp.  i 
dont know exactly what i'm going to get, but Parasound is looking pretty 
good to me right now.  they supposedly have a great bang for the buck ratio.
so, i'de really like to hear some opinions on this matter.  its very 
frustrating when you have nobody to talk to.  i used to know one guy who 
could have provided me with a wealth of information but he fell of the face 
of the earth.  figures.
thanks a lot,

kevin
http://db.etree.org/kevinkachel

Kevin
http://db.etree.org/kevinkachel

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From: Aaron Heller <heller@ai.sri.com>
Subject: Re: The first taper?
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 11:26:32 -0800

> From: "Zach Sheeran" <zach_s@bellsouth.net>
> Subject: The first taper?
> Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 08:16:29 -0500
> 
> I heard this on NPR today and had to share.  It's DJ Spooky talking about a
> guy named Lionel Mapleson who was making cylinder recordings of orchestras
> in 1903.  The first taper, maybe?  Wonder how many cylinder-heads there
> were? 

Mapleson was the Metropolitan Opera's librarian and made his first recordings in 1900 from the prompter's box.  By 1902, he was using a 6-foot horn on a catwalk above the stage.  His activities were curtailed in 1903 by the Opera's management when they agreed to let Columbia records issue studio recordings of the Opera's stars.  (There were also rumors that the singers complained of things falling from the catwalk onto the stage during performances.)  He made a few orchestra-only recordings in 1904 and then apparently lost interest.

The cylinders are at the Rodgers and Hammerstein sound archive at Lincoln Center, which is part of the NY Public Library.  See http://digilib.nypl.org/dynaweb/millennium/mapleson/@Generic__BookView for further details, including Real Audio files of some of the cylinders.




From: carlos martinez <carlmart@centroin.com.br>
Subject: stealing is stealing
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 21:03:06 -0200 (BRST)


>From: h Grape Minkoff <the_grapeman@yahoo.com>
>Subject: stealing is stealing
>Reply-To: the_GrapeMan@yahoo.com
>Date: Fri, 19 Dec 2003 08:30:40 -0800 (PST)
>
>If you copied the cd, then you didn't buy it and you DID cost Bod Dylan
>his royalty. If you weren't going to buy it, you don't have the rights
>to it and you shouldn't copy it. That's the stealing part.
>
>Same with software.

Nice words! Though I don't think this is the right place for them. Maybe at
some RIAA forum they might be welcome and et you some applause!

To start with this forum is based on mails and tapes interchange from
people that make their hobby of recording music shows furtively. So they
are probably stealing from those artists from your (and their) point of
view. Aren't they?

Now about CDs ans software I frimly believe that the record companies and
the software companies are stealing from us when they charge the prices
they do. 

Instead of crying piracy, and charging higher prices to compensate from it,
why don't they simply sell CDs at a more reasonable price, like the price
LPs were being sold for when CDs came into the picture. Producing a CD is
trillions cheaper than an LP was and they are charging us three or four
times what we should pay. Technology has already being paid for several
times, but they still charges as at the beginning. 

About software, two weeks ago I went to a site to buy a PAL to NTSC
transfer program that was being sold for less than $100 until a few months
ago. But another company, Focus, bought the software and is charging $300!
Isn't that outrageous!

If I could find anyone that can sell me a pirate copy of that program for
the old price I would run to buy it. 

Maybe it's time you start thinking all these matters from a different point
of view. 


Carlos E. Martinez



    




From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: re: Transfer of VHS tape
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 17:21:33 -0800

You would probably find it easier to get someone to offer to transfer 
the tape for you, than to pay for you to buy a machine.  However, if 
you don't want to send the tape to a fellow DAT-Head, there are 
commercial transfer places which could do it for you, probably 
under $50.
--Gary




From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Post error
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 20:31:52 -0500

Sorry for the nonsense post. Usually my posts go through coming from the web based AOL browser. For some reason, this post did not, and I'm taking it as a sign.

Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com



From: Adevccpj@cs.com
Subject: ISO a couple shows
Date: Sun, 21 Dec 2003 22:47:52 -0500

If this goes through more than once, sorry....

Hi all, I'm trying to track down 2 shows on DAT:

Counting Crows July 17th, 1999 from The State Theater in Kalamazoo, Michigan
Pearl Jam August 18th, 1998 from The Breslin Center in Lansing, Michigan

Any help is appreciated, my list is linked below

http://www.phishhook.com/lists/IM_STILL_ALIVE

thanks, Scott


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