DAT-heads Digest #967

Contents:
  Re: stealing is stealing (Scott Hansen)
  FS: Schoeps ORTF Bar ("Charlie Miller")
  ATTN: A Perfect Circle Europe Tapers  ("Andrew .")


From: Scott Hansen <schansen@cts.com>
Subject: Re: stealing is stealing
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 16:08:35 -0800

In a mind-blowing e-mail sent on the extremely historic date of 12/23/03
7:50 AM, Digestifier thusly spaketh:

> of course it's stealing when we record an artist without their
> permission....over the past 10 yrs we tapers who populate internet-based
> groups such as this have simply rationalized this stealing and
> re-interpreted it as "archiving"...the history of mankind is full of such
> rationalizations....some more damaging than what tapers do....this is a
> funny group of people here. if i go to a concert and sneak off with your
> D8, I'm a thief, but if you go to the same concert and sneak off with my
> music, you enjoy it...hypocrisy comes in many forms:) dave

Actually, taping is more equivalent (in a theoretical world) to me making an
inferior copy of your D8 and using it over and over - not stealing it. You
have lost nothing, just as the musician has lost nothing - I would gain
something, just as the taper has gained something.

Let's not also forget that some of those who don't allow open taping at
their shows are now looking for old bootleg recordings for their
"retrospective" official releases since they were stupid enough not to tape
the shows themselves, or the recording of the show was jacked up as was the
case in the Montreal "Hammer of the Gods" show (Dream Theater's Mike
Portnoy's Led Zeppelin tribute).

Scott




From: "Charlie Miller" <charliemiller87@earthlink.net>
Subject: FS: Schoeps ORTF Bar
Date: Tue, 23 Dec 2003 21:18:04 -0800

I have a schoeps ORTF bar for sale. t is in great condition, only used a few
times.
Paid $100, will sell for $75 (plus shipping).
If interested, please contact me.

cm

PS, feel free to post this on other lists...




From: "Andrew ." <gun_beside_my_bed@hotmail.com>
Subject: ATTN: A Perfect Circle Europe Tapers 
Date: Wed, 24 Dec 2003 05:53:26 +0000

Hi if anyone is going to be taping A Perfect Circle next year, please tape 
the opening band Auf Der Maur, (Melissa's band formerly sp and hole as im 
sure you all know).  I would really like to get copies of at least some of 
these shows.  If you plan on hitting any of these shows please email me so I 
can find you later (dont worry I wont bug you the next day).

here are the dates

January:

Date: Place: Venue:
20 Lisbon, Portugal Coliseum
22 Madrid, Spain La Rivierra
23 Barcelona, Spain Razzmatazz
25 Milan, Italy Fila Forum
26 Zurich, Switz Volkshaus
27 Vienna, Austria Gasometer
29 Koln, Germany LMH
30 Tilburg, Holland 013
31 Paris, France Zenith

February:

Date: Place: Venue:
2 Birmingham, UK Academy
3 London, UK Hammersmith
4 Cambridge, UK Corn Exchange
6 Glasgow, UK SECC
7 Manchester, UK Apollo
8 Nottinham, UK Rock City
9 Southampton, UK Guildhall


Also, I doubt anyone did but if you happend to tape the few european shows 
she recently played please email me, thanks!

Andrew

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