DAT-heads Digest #51
Contents:
David Bowie ("Marcel")
ISO DEEP PURPLE & CPR (csnmusic)
FS: Sony D100 ("Stephen Pzynski")
Tape removed from D7! Thanks to all!! ("Rich Gomes")
Zebrahead Tapers Past/Present? ("Justin Greenwood")
WTD: Eric Johnson dvd (Jeff Shirkey)
looking for taping policy/info on a few bands (David Mobley)
Lucy Kaplansky policy (Mark Mayhle)
Lucinda Williams: NOT taper-friendly ("teasinthatbooboo")
ISO Richard Thompson Atlanta 3-13-2004 ("Tim Lowery")
TradeOffer:5/18/68 4CDs Dead, Janis/BigBro, ElectricFlag,Youngbloods, CJ&Fish (JPollQs@aol.com)
Re: Taping who? (Mikkel Breiler)
my dats for your dvd-rs (artood2)
From: "Marcel" <marcel@refraction.net>
Subject: David Bowie
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 18:11:23 -0800
Anyone recording David Bowie at the Berkeley Community Theater, April 16 or
17?
Marcel
From: csnmusic <csnmusic@optonline.net>
Subject: ISO DEEP PURPLE & CPR
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:18:11 -0500
Looking for Deep Purple at the Beacon and a good show from the current David
Crosby/CPR tour. Lots to trade.
From: "Stephen Pzynski" <stejampzy@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Sony D100
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 20:22:17 -0600
I got this in trade about 3-4 months ago and have only used it for about 30
minutes of playback time. It comes with:
-pleather case
-AC adapter (not the original; a Radio Shack one)
It seems to be in excellent working order and the person I received it from
just had it serviced by Pro Digital before he sent it to me (Paul Plotnik, I
think?). I originally traded a DA-P1 for this unit and cash but it turns out
I don't need an extra deck right now.
Price: $400
Interesting trades considered.
Thanks...
Steve
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From: "Rich Gomes" <RichGomes@comcast.net>
Subject: Tape removed from D7! Thanks to all!!
Date: Fri, 12 Mar 2004 21:37:28 -0500
Just wanted to thank all who sent suggestions on removing the tape from
my D7. I really appreciate all the help!!
-Rich
If you will not fight for the right when you can easily win without
bloodshed, if you will not fight when your victory will be sure and not
too costly, you may come to the moment when you will have to fight with
all the odds against you and only a small chance of survival. There may
even be a worse case: you may have to fight when there is no hope of
victory, because it is better to perish than to live as slaves. - Sir
Winston Leonard Spencer Churchill
From: "Justin Greenwood" <s0cref@comcast.net>
Subject: Zebrahead Tapers Past/Present?
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:36:19 -0500
One of my favorite bands is playing a series of shows in the UK and on the
west coast and I was hoping that someone might be taping them. The band is
called Zebrahead and they are like an indie rock/punk band that put on a
temendous show and are a lot of fun. I was hoping that someone might be
checking them out and taping them. If so could you please let me know and
hopefully I can get a copy of your tape. Also, if anyone has taped the band
in the past or has any shows I would love to hear from you. I would really
appreciate it.
03/12 - Carling Brixton Academy - London, UK
03/13 - Manchester, UK Manchester University -
03/14 - Barrowland - Glasgow, UK
03/15 - Corporation - Sheffield, UK
03/16 - Civic Hall - Wolverhampton, UK
03/17 - The Furnace - Swindon, UK
03/18 - The Garage - London, UK
03/19 - Concorde 2 - Brighton, UK
03/26 - Electric Theatre - Saint George, UT
03/27 - Desert Breeze Park - Las Vegas, NV
03/28 - The Rock - Tucson, AZ
03/29 - SOMA - San Diego, CA
Later,
Justin
From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: WTD: Eric Johnson dvd
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 00:02:59 -0600
Does anyone have the EJ dvd from Lisle, IL, 7/4/03?
Thanks,
Jeff
From: David Mobley <dmobley@fastmail.fm>
Subject: looking for taping policy/info on a few bands
Reply-To: David Mobley <dmobley@fastmail.fm>
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 05:45:28 -0500
I'm seeing quite a few bands that don't have any official/established
taping policy in a few days, and I'm wondering if anyone knows their
particular stances towards taping and any advice for them?
I'm seeing: British Sea Power, Pretty Girls Make Graves, Rasputina,
and probably DJ Shadow (and others). If anyone's had any experience
with these bands I'd appreciate a heads up, especially BSP and PGMG
since those shows are next week and I need to know if I should be
especially careful. I doubt it, but better safe than sorry, right?
From: Mark Mayhle <mark@mayhle.com>
Subject: Lucy Kaplansky policy
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 06:40:19 -0600 (CST)
I was forwarded an email from Lucy Kaplansky as of 2-3 years ago that gave
permission to tape; wondering if anyone has more up-to-date info?
Thanks,
--
Mark Mayhle
mark@mayhle.com
From: "teasinthatbooboo" <teasinthatbooboo@hotmail.com>
Subject: Lucinda Williams: NOT taper-friendly
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:08:00 -0500
Went to see her last Sat. here in Charleston, and two full rigs were set up
for the Bottle Rockets (opener) when I got there. Since I was late, I
patched in instead of setting up a third rig. Fortunately.
After the opener ended, five minutes before she came on, Lucinda's sound guy
came to the 'board and said "No taping Lucinda. Take them down, now." As
we lowered the stands and prepared items to cover the gear which was,
naturally, running, the sound guy repeated, "No taping. I'm serious. That
stuff needs to be turned off." Two minutes later, a venue employee showed
up folded his (huge, meaty) arms, and said, "I am going to stand here and
watch you disassemble your rigs, and then watch you walk them out the door
of the venue." Both of which he did. While Lucinda started playing. I was
'allowed' to keep my gear bag at the soundboard since I hadn't set up
anything but the D8, which I put away.
Of course, the two others came back to the show with stealth gear, but it
was well into the third song of the night by then. Still haven't been able
to track them down to see how it came out, but I'm betting pretty poorly -
big, bar-ish venue, halfway back from the stage, chatty crowd, 20% oversold,
etc. I would have run omni Core-Sounds there at the 'board, but I know what
kind of tape one gets with that, plus was on a date, so I skipped my only
stealth option.
So, to sum up, Lucinda ain't taping-friendly. If you go, go prepared.
Great show, though.
Anybody tape her this tour?
: ^ )
ttbb
From: "Tim Lowery" <dattrek@comcast.net>
Subject: ISO Richard Thompson Atlanta 3-13-2004
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 08:22:10 -0600
Please help me find this show for my wife. I havce alot to trade
tim
From: JPollQs@aol.com
Subject: TradeOffer:5/18/68 4CDs Dead, Janis/BigBro, ElectricFlag,Youngbloods, CJ&Fish
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 13:08:06 EST
I don't know if all this material is commonly circulating now but I just
picked these up from a friend last night and I'm blown away! Figured I'd offer
them up for trades. Looking for more of the same late 60's stuff (other than
Dead) and more 69-71 Miles Davis. Here is the detailed text file. Stu
*****************************************
The Northern California Folk-Rock Festival
Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, Santa Clara, CA
Saturday afternoon, May 18, 1968
CD1: The Youngbloods/Country Joe & The Fish
CD2: The Electric Flag
CD3: The Grateful Dead
CD4: Big Brother & The Holding Company featuring Janis Joplin
TRACKLISTS:
*********CD1:
THE YOUNGBLOODS
The Northern California Folk-Rock Festival
Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, Santa Clara, CA
Saturday afternoon, May 18, 1968
Jesse Colin Young - bass, guitar, vocals
Lowell (Banana) Levinger - guitar, keyboards, vocals
Joe Bauer - drums
1 Introduction [0:17]
2 Aint That Loving You Baby [3:23]
3 Rain Song [2:15]
4 Beautiful [3:54]
5 Reason To Believe [3:18]
6 On Sir Francis Drake [3:41]
7 Four In The Morning [3:53]
8 The Wine Song [3:02]
9 Darkness, Darkness [4:27]
10 Too Much Monkey Business [4:40]
11 Get Together [3:47]
COUNTRY JOE & THE FISH
The Northern California Folk-Rock Festival
Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, Santa Clara, CA
Saturday afternoon, May 18, 1968
Joe McDonald - guitar, vocals
Barry Melton - guitar, vocals
Bruce Barthol - bass
David Cohen - organ
Gary (Chicken) Hirsh - drums
12 Introduction [0:08]
13 Rock & Soul Music [1:27]
14 Marijuana->Love [3:32]
15 Masked Marauder [4:18]
16 Flying High [9:16]
17 Superbird [3:30]
18 Section 43 [6:48]
*********CD2:
THE ELECTRIC FLAG
The Northern California Folk-Rock Festival
Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, Santa Clara, CA
Saturday afternoon, May 18, 1968
Nick Gravenites - vocals
Michael Bloomfield - guitar
Barry Goldberg - organ
Harvey Brooks - bass
Buddy Miles - drums
Peter Strazza - tenor sax
Herbie Rich - baritone sax
Marcus Doubleday - trumpet
1 Introduction [0:07]
2 Soul Searchin [5:26]
3 Groovin Is Easy [5:13]
4 Hey Joe [6:08]
5 Sweet Home Chicago [8:11]
6 Killing Floor [4:47]
7 Texas// [5:04]
8 //Another Country [4:35]
9 Wine [3:52]
*********CD3:
THE GRATEFUL DEAD
The Northern California Folk-Rock Festival
Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, Santa Clara, CA
Saturday afternoon, May 18, 1968
Ron (Pigpen) McKernan - lead vocals, percussion
Jerry Garcia - l. guitar, vocals
Bob Weir - r. guitar, vocals
Phil Lesh - bass, vocals
Tom Constanten - organ
Bill Kruetzman - drums
Mickey Hart - drums
1. Alligator-> [10:48]
2 drums-> [2:51]
3 jam-> [1:35]
4 Alligator [3:27]
5 Caution: Do Not Step On Tracks-> [16:24]
6 Feedback... [6:18]
7 --backstage Bob Weir ranting... [0:53]
*********CD4:
JANIS JOPLIN/BIG BROTHER
The Northern California Folk-Rock Festival
Santa Clara County Fairgrounds, Santa Clara, CA
Saturday afternoon, May 18, 1968
Janis Joplin - vocals, percussion
Sam Andrew - guitar, vocals
James Gurley - guitar
Peter Albin - bass, vocals
Dave Getz - drums
1 Catch Me Daddy [4:54]
2 Roadblock [5:11]
3 Summertime [4:59]
4 The Cuckoo [7:19]
5 Combination Of The Two [7:12]
6 Farewll Song [4:45]
7 Piece Of My Heart [4:31]
8 --backstage banter... [0:26]
******************************************************
Sources:
The Youngbloods:
Tom Orton Master Audience Reel->RR2->DAT->CD
(mono - clean and listenable)
Country Joe & The Fish:
Tom Orton Master Audience Reel->?->C->DAT->CD
(mono- listenable, but with hiss from analog generations)
The Electric Flag:
Tom Orton Master Audience Reel->RR2->DAT->CD
(mono - clean and listenable)
The Grateful Dead:
Jorma Kaukonen Master Onstage Reel->?->shn->CD
(courtesy of Furthur shns - stereo - nice!)
Janis Joplin, Big Bother & The Holding Co.
Jorma Kaukonen Master Onstage Reel->?->shn->CD
(courtesy of Furthur shns - stereo - nice!)
******************************************************
From: Mikkel Breiler <mibm@tiscali.dk>
Subject: Re: Taping who?
Reply-To: mibm@tiscali.dk
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 22:47:26 +0100
On Fri, 12 Mar 04 20:50:01 EST, Digestifier =
<DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net>
wrote:
>From: Keith Bode <t.tunakebo@verizon.net>
>Subject: Taping who?
>Reply-To: t.tunakebo@verizon.net
>Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2004 19:27:03 -0800
>
>Maybe I'm being a bit on the picky side, but I'm a little baffled by
>posts offering people the opportunity to tape little known or unknown
>bands, simply because they allow taping. What about the music? What
>style of music are these bands playing? What's the scene like? Is
>there someplace to check out some sound bites? I think about these
>questions, and wonder, "Who wants to bring a few grand worth of
>equipment to tape a band, and not even know if I dig the style of music
>being played, and not know if the crowd is a bunch of stoned drunks who
>will wind up falling on or puking on, a deck, pre, A>D batteryback and
>god knows what else?" Also, "will I dislike the music, and want to
>split after 5 minutes after doing all the setup?" Maybe I'm unique, but
>simply because a band is "Taper Friendly" doesn't mean, to me, that I'm
>going to be a happy camper as a result of having a tape.
Your question comes off rather like whats-in-it-for-me as in "if I don't =
like what I
taped for someone else I will hate myself for complying with someone =
elses wish to
have that show and putting my equipment at risk of damage".
But I do not know wether you are like that.
Someone who cannot bear not to make a recording of a show and risking =
damage to the
gear by the crowd acting up or coming home with a recording which =
whateverway is not
interestring to them all in the name of someone asking them to - should =
not take the
risks and should not act as if they will help another guy out. But given =
someone asks
for an unknown band to be taped might trigger curiosity.
I suppose a person afraid to take any risk leaves the car at home and =
walks to the
pub in case someone drunk damages the paintjob. Of course that is =
insurable. But the
insurance doesn't recreate a masterpiece and won't pay for all costs =
involved such as
expensive vintage parts.
..
If for instance you get a request to tape a band you never heard of and =
respond
asking for type of recording accepted and if there is any freebie =
involved, like
transport, beer or ticket compensation, you could also enquire about what=
type of
music the bands plays wether they have taping policy, the nature of the =
taping
policy.
Your hookedness and the work needed to conceal if the policy is not in =
that favour
will determine wether your stealth gear is needed. Payhaps the request =
comes from
someone who can supply you with a snippet or refer you to a band webpage =
which has
snippets for download- no doubt also a biography so you can recognize =
bandmembers
from other constellations or what not.
On the other hand if you've taped all you wanted to in your area and a =
strange act is
there, and someone offers you a trade of material you like or free =
tickets for the
show. Why not just treat it like any other band you are turned on to; do =
the ground
work, use Google for the bands information, type, crowd their taping =
policy, verify
at the door that the venue allows taping too (and that the band is in a =
taping-is-ok
mood). (Ask "Can I set my up over here?" as opposed to "May I tape?" if =
the bands
policy is yes you can, then it is only the house policy that overrules in=
that
direction.) You probably know the venue as you record stuff you already =
like and know
like in it when you can. You volunteer to work the night as a taper =
because you are
close to the venue, so it is familiar - so use your connections, showing =
people who
works regularly at a venue that this time you do this for some stranger =
who has a
show you like or will do the same for you and your favorite band will =
give a little
more respect about your taping activity. They might frown if you go for =
something you
don't usually bring the gear out for.
Taping for others means expanding the horizon of music, not everything =
new and around
is on the radio/tv, someone wanting a band recorded means there is =
interest in the
band. And maybe it is warranted to invest more in that band if the band =
is
interesting. The social network built up over doing something for others =
also play a
key role when swapping with people who may then be willing to tape =
something they
wouldn't have thought to go and hear/tape for you.
-breiler
From: artood2 <artood2@shaw.ca>
Subject: my dats for your dvd-rs
Date: Sat, 13 Mar 2004 15:28:36 -0800
I have some dats I've transferred to cd and no longer need
I'm looking to trade for some dvd -rs of concerts from similar artists
got dats of
bryan adams 6-21-00 osaka
" " 6-17-00 nagoya
" " -6-3-94 LA (minor diginoise on1 track)
tragically hip 12-11-98 wi
u2 2-25-98 brisbane aus
primus 8-16-95 houston tx
derek trucks band 12-26-96 atlanta
dream theater 2-26-98 & 4-5-98 (same tape) 1 track minor dn although in
this case it maybe my deck
dave mathews band 6-15-96 pittsburgh
def leppard 8-24-83 providence (off 1st gen analog)
" " 6-17-96 osaka
black crowes 10-28-98 paris & about 20 more mostly 95 tour
Im looking for these dvds in particular but will consider any and all
offers.
led zeppelin seattle 75 pro
rush \ ac dc sars concerts pro
u2 syracuse 87 pro
u2 irving plaza 2001 pro
u2 washington 92 pro
govt mule master hi 8 - dvds...
blue floyd " " "
only looking for pc copied discs! with menus. would consider master dv -
stand alone though .
Save Farscape.com
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