DAT-heads Digest #101

Contents:
  Response -> taping live storytelling help, please ("Martin")
  Re: Zoltrix or other Coax In sound cards (todd romero)
  Wanted: 7 Pin to Coax cable ("Danny T")
  ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS (analog414@comcast.net)
  eMusic Live - Concert Recording (Charles Quinn)
  FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE! ("james helgy")
  Re: FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE! (Liam Sean Kennedy)
  ISO: Ekoostik Hookah Setlist Madison, WI 4/10/04 ("Joe & Gen Reed")
  WTD: Patty Griffin (Jeff Shirkey)
  ISO: URL of mounting AT831 in a hat ("Bas Ruesink")


From: "Martin" <martinwk@ptd.net>
Subject: Response -> taping live storytelling help, please
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:31:00 -0400

Kay,

I am a devotee to the school of minimalism.  If I found myself in your
position, I would chant "Less is more" and get rid of all the other mics
besides the 414's.  I would then arrange them in a coincident Blumlein
pattern, place them between the storyteller and the audience (closer to the
storyteller), and hit record.

First described in 1933, the Blumlein stereo pair is easy and effective.
Place your 414s in "figure-8" or "bi-directional" mode. The arrange them as
if they were a coincident X/Y pair.  That is to say, the capsules should be
90 degrees off axis, right above each other.  The front of the "figure 8"
will pick up the performer, the back will pick up the audience.

This technique will fold in the audience without mixing, and collapse to
mono without phase problems.  Remember, every time you are opening up
another mic you introduce phase problems and noise.

Back at the studio I would probably load it in straight.  Then I would drop
the applause 6dB hiding the attenuation behind the first clap.  Then I would
cut everything below 100 Hz (since this is speech, every thing down there is
probably noise or wasted energy).  I would probably use a little
compression, say 3:1 with the threshold set about 6dB below the peak.  Then
normalize to -0.01 dB and top/tail.

Any problems or questions feel free to contact me.

Hope this helps!

-M




From: todd romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: Re: Zoltrix or other Coax In sound cards
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:36:30 -0400 (EDT)



this card is almost identical to the zoltrix and has a very low price
tag!:

http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-117-107&depa=0

they also carry the popular m-audio cards

On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Dan Lee wrote:

> Hello.  I'm completely new to the DAT world, and I was wondering if
> anyone knew from where I can buy a Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 sound card
> in North America (besides eBay)?  Do they distribute these cards anymore
> in North America?  I'd be willing to buy it from a source outside North
> America, if it was possible.
>
> Or if someone could point me to another sound card of comparable cost
> that has digital co-ax in for transferring 48KHz audio, I'd appreciate
> it.
>
> -Dan
>
>



From: "Danny T" <thweatt62040@msn.com>
Subject: Wanted: 7 Pin to Coax cable
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:29:43 -0500

I'm looking to buy a used 7 pin to coax cable at a decent price if anyone 
has an extra. I haven't really researched these much yet. Do I need an 
active or a passive cable to go directly from my M1 to the coax-in of my 
Pioneer PDR-555RW burner?

BWT:Any one show from my list to the first person who contacts me.

Have a nice day, Danny
My trade page:
www.sanctifiedpress.com/trade.html 



From: analog414@comcast.net
Subject: ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:58:20 +0000

             
     Hi music tapers, still trying for the Strawbs 1976 Capital Theatre FM 
broadcast show from a master. Pick out a handful of shows if you can help me 
here. Even if its the leg-work you do. Why is this so hard to find??
     Hope everyone has a great taping summer.
         "ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS"
        http://home.comcast.net/~analog414/RicksRecordings.html
  
   Best Regards Rick B.



From: Charles Quinn <cmquinn@mindspring.com>
Subject: eMusic Live - Concert Recording
Reply-To: Charles Quinn <cmquinn@mindspring.com>
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:41:00 -0700 (GMT-07:00)

Looks like they are trying to make our hobby a commercial venture.

Chuck Quinn

New Device Allows Recording at Concerts
Apr 29, 8:36 AM (ET)
By LUKAS I. ALPERT 

NEW YORK (AP) - Oh, how far we've come from the 78, the 45, even the CD. Now, minutes after your favorite band sounds its last note on stage, you can load a live recording of the concert onto a cigarette-lighter-sized hard drive hanging off your keychain. 

Take it home, toss the digital files onto your computer and then e-mail it to all your friends with the message, "Dude! These guys are awesome!" 

On May 21, new digital kiosks offering the tiny drives will be installed at Maxwell's, a small indie-rock club in Hoboken, N.J. At $10 a pop for the recording, and $20 for the reusable, keychain drive, let the downloading begin. 

"This is a tool that allows fans to take home and share some of the best independent music from small live venues around the country," said Daniel Stein, CEO of Dimensional Associates, a private equity firm that owns eMusic Live, which created the machines, as well as eMusic, a music file-sharing Web site, and The Orchard, a marketing firm for independent labels. 

For Scott Ambrose Reilly, president of eMusic Live, the idea is to let fans have a legal copy of a live show, which gives smaller artists and their labels creative control over the quality of the recording and a commercial stake in its distribution. 

The understanding is also that it is not a one-time recording. Fans can share the files with their friends, providing free word-of-mouth publicity for smaller bands. 

For eMusic Live, the devices are just the next step for a service that it and other competitors already provide: burning CDs of live performances right after a show ends. 

"What we were seeing is that a large number of people were taking their CDs home and ripping them to MP3s, so we thought it would benefit music fans to eliminate that middle step," Reilly said. 

The technology is quite simple: The music fan goes up to the touch-screen kiosk after the show and buys the keychain drive with a credit card from a dispenser alongside the screen. Once that's done, the miniature drive is inserted into a slot in the kiosk, and the recording - stored as MP3 files - is loaded onto the device's 128-megabyte hard drive. That is enough space for 110 minutes of music. 

A receipt for the transaction is sent to the concertgoer's e-mail address. 

"I can remember when I started the debate was whether the 45 or 33 would be more successful," said Richard Gottehrer, author of hits like "My Boyfriend's Back," and "I Want Candy," and chairman of The Orchard. "Now the Napsters of the world are yesterday's news and this is the newer, legal, next step." 

Whether the technology will take off remains to be seen. But its creators are optimistic and hope to roll the machines into venues around the country soon. 

"Admittedly this won't be for everyone," Reilly said. "But since the direction of music is increasingly going digital, I don't see why this wouldn't find its niche." 

At a demo for the device at a sound studio in Manhattan on Tuesday, a New York-based band, Elysian Fields, performed three songs, which were quickly loaded onto the "pen drives" afterward. 

Later, at home, the device was inserted into the USB port of a laptop computer and voila! singer Jennifer Charles' smoky, lilting lyrics and Oren Bloedow's reverbed-out, brooding guitar lines filled the living room. 

Charles called the new technology "a beautiful thing." 

"I'm very excited to be a part of this incredible and sexy technology," she said between songs. "It makes us feel very James Bond. You can have your little pens - wow, beam me up Scotty." 

On the net: 

eMusic Live: http://www.emusiclive.com 
eMusic: http://www.emusic.com 
The Orchard: http://www.theorchard.com 
Elysian Fields: http://www.elysianmusic.com 
Maxwell's: http://www.maxwellsnj.com 




From: "james helgy" <nutball67@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE!
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:49:38 -0500

                 SUBTRACT $70.00
     I'm selling off some of my INCREDIBLE DATs. They all were used by
recording studios for production & finding the perfect mixes before
production. There are NO data & cheapass tapes. They range in length from
30min.-94min......with most being closer to the latter. They are
manfucatured by Apogee, Ampex, HHB, Denon, Maxell, Sony, DIC, TDK, 3M,
AGFA.Most of them have tags reading "Production Master....Remix
Master.....and the like. Actually, There are several artists you are
familliar with, but, as I'm selling these as blanks, I WILL NOT mention the
artists. Most of these tapes sold for $8-$12 apiece........which means it'd
be worth $1680 - $2520!   I'm putting them up @ $1.85 each!!!!   So, With
shipping, if you want USPS priority mail......It'd be $408.50.........UPS
Ground is $412.00..........Keep in mind, these are the rates for the
Continental USA states.  Reach me here, or @   jameshelgerson@sbcglobal.net


                   MINUS $70.00!!!!!!


. 

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From: Liam Sean Kennedy <liam@fedney.org>
Subject: Re: FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE!
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:23 -0400

--On Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:49 PM -0500 james helgy 
<nutball67@hotmail.com> wrote:

>                  SUBTRACT $70.00
>      I'm selling off some of my INCREDIBLE DATs.

Instead of the hyperbole about INCREDIBLE DATs, you could say "I have X 30 
min dats, X 60 ....  25 DIC, 20 Agfa" and let people decide if its worth 
more to them than "cheapxxx" DATs, ok.  (Sure back when we started 
DAT-heads in 1989/90 used 30-90min DATs for $1.85 would have been 
INCREDIBLE, but today your message reads like bulk email.  I think you 
would get a better response, if any, just being straightforward.)

 Sean



From: "Joe & Gen Reed" <patchnbrit@wi.rr.com>
Subject: ISO: Ekoostik Hookah Setlist Madison, WI 4/10/04
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:58:54 -0500

Need setlist for the 4/10/04 Ekoostik Hookah set as opener for Leftover
Salmon. Please email me off page. Thanks, joe.com




From: Jeff Shirkey <jcshirke@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: WTD: Patty Griffin
Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:06:35 -0500

Looking for Patty Griffin shows from her upcoming tour. Will anyone 
be at the Chicago show on 5/15?

Thanks,

Jeff



From: "Bas Ruesink" <basruesink@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: URL of mounting AT831 in a hat
Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:33:22 +0200

hi all, just bought a pair of AT831 (guess who sold them :-) ), and now i 
think there was a webpage somewhere were they showed how to mount those mics 
in a hat. but i can't remeber the URL, can any of you?
Bas

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