DAT-heads Digest #101, Volume #7 Fri, 30 Apr 04 06:50:01 EDT Contents: Response -> taping live storytelling help, please ("Martin") Re: Zoltrix or other Coax In sound cards (todd romero) Wanted: 7 Pin to Coax cable ("Danny T") ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS (analog414@comcast.net) eMusic Live - Concert Recording (Charles Quinn) FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE! ("james helgy") Re: FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE! (Liam Sean Kennedy) ISO: Ekoostik Hookah Setlist Madison, WI 4/10/04 ("Joe & Gen Reed") WTD: Patty Griffin (Jeff Shirkey) ISO: URL of mounting AT831 in a hat ("Bas Ruesink") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Martin" Subject: Response -> taping live storytelling help, please Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:31:00 -0400 Kay, I am a devotee to the school of minimalism. If I found myself in your position, I would chant "Less is more" and get rid of all the other mics besides the 414's. I would then arrange them in a coincident Blumlein pattern, place them between the storyteller and the audience (closer to the storyteller), and hit record. First described in 1933, the Blumlein stereo pair is easy and effective. Place your 414s in "figure-8" or "bi-directional" mode. The arrange them as if they were a coincident X/Y pair. That is to say, the capsules should be 90 degrees off axis, right above each other. The front of the "figure 8" will pick up the performer, the back will pick up the audience. This technique will fold in the audience without mixing, and collapse to mono without phase problems. Remember, every time you are opening up another mic you introduce phase problems and noise. Back at the studio I would probably load it in straight. Then I would drop the applause 6dB hiding the attenuation behind the first clap. Then I would cut everything below 100 Hz (since this is speech, every thing down there is probably noise or wasted energy). I would probably use a little compression, say 3:1 with the threshold set about 6dB below the peak. Then normalize to -0.01 dB and top/tail. Any problems or questions feel free to contact me. Hope this helps! -M ------------------------------ From: todd romero Subject: Re: Zoltrix or other Coax In sound cards Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:36:30 -0400 (EDT) this card is almost identical to the zoltrix and has a very low price tag!: http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=29-117-107&depa=0 they also carry the popular m-audio cards On Thu, 29 Apr 2004, Dan Lee wrote: > Hello. I'm completely new to the DAT world, and I was wondering if > anyone knew from where I can buy a Zoltrix Nightingale Pro 6 sound card > in North America (besides eBay)? Do they distribute these cards anymore > in North America? I'd be willing to buy it from a source outside North > America, if it was possible. > > Or if someone could point me to another sound card of comparable cost > that has digital co-ax in for transferring 48KHz audio, I'd appreciate > it. > > -Dan > > ------------------------------ From: "Danny T" Subject: Wanted: 7 Pin to Coax cable Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 08:29:43 -0500 I'm looking to buy a used 7 pin to coax cable at a decent price if anyone has an extra. I haven't really researched these much yet. Do I need an active or a passive cable to go directly from my M1 to the coax-in of my Pioneer PDR-555RW burner? BWT:Any one show from my list to the first person who contacts me. Have a nice day, Danny My trade page: www.sanctifiedpress.com/trade.html ------------------------------ From: analog414@comcast.net Subject: ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 13:58:20 +0000 Hi music tapers, still trying for the Strawbs 1976 Capital Theatre FM broadcast show from a master. Pick out a handful of shows if you can help me here. Even if its the leg-work you do. Why is this so hard to find?? Hope everyone has a great taping summer. "ORIGINAL MASTER RECORDINGS" http://home.comcast.net/~analog414/RicksRecordings.html Best Regards Rick B. ------------------------------ From: Charles Quinn Subject: eMusic Live - Concert Recording Reply-To: Charles Quinn Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 10:41:00 -0700 (GMT-07:00) Looks like they are trying to make our hobby a commercial venture. Chuck Quinn New Device Allows Recording at Concerts Apr 29, 8:36 AM (ET) By LUKAS I. ALPERT NEW YORK (AP) - Oh, how far we've come from the 78, the 45, even the CD. Now, minutes after your favorite band sounds its last note on stage, you can load a live recording of the concert onto a cigarette-lighter-sized hard drive hanging off your keychain. Take it home, toss the digital files onto your computer and then e-mail it to all your friends with the message, "Dude! These guys are awesome!" On May 21, new digital kiosks offering the tiny drives will be installed at Maxwell's, a small indie-rock club in Hoboken, N.J. At $10 a pop for the recording, and $20 for the reusable, keychain drive, let the downloading begin. "This is a tool that allows fans to take home and share some of the best independent music from small live venues around the country," said Daniel Stein, CEO of Dimensional Associates, a private equity firm that owns eMusic Live, which created the machines, as well as eMusic, a music file-sharing Web site, and The Orchard, a marketing firm for independent labels. For Scott Ambrose Reilly, president of eMusic Live, the idea is to let fans have a legal copy of a live show, which gives smaller artists and their labels creative control over the quality of the recording and a commercial stake in its distribution. The understanding is also that it is not a one-time recording. Fans can share the files with their friends, providing free word-of-mouth publicity for smaller bands. For eMusic Live, the devices are just the next step for a service that it and other competitors already provide: burning CDs of live performances right after a show ends. "What we were seeing is that a large number of people were taking their CDs home and ripping them to MP3s, so we thought it would benefit music fans to eliminate that middle step," Reilly said. The technology is quite simple: The music fan goes up to the touch-screen kiosk after the show and buys the keychain drive with a credit card from a dispenser alongside the screen. Once that's done, the miniature drive is inserted into a slot in the kiosk, and the recording - stored as MP3 files - is loaded onto the device's 128-megabyte hard drive. That is enough space for 110 minutes of music. A receipt for the transaction is sent to the concertgoer's e-mail address. "I can remember when I started the debate was whether the 45 or 33 would be more successful," said Richard Gottehrer, author of hits like "My Boyfriend's Back," and "I Want Candy," and chairman of The Orchard. "Now the Napsters of the world are yesterday's news and this is the newer, legal, next step." Whether the technology will take off remains to be seen. But its creators are optimistic and hope to roll the machines into venues around the country soon. "Admittedly this won't be for everyone," Reilly said. "But since the direction of music is increasingly going digital, I don't see why this wouldn't find its niche." At a demo for the device at a sound studio in Manhattan on Tuesday, a New York-based band, Elysian Fields, performed three songs, which were quickly loaded onto the "pen drives" afterward. Later, at home, the device was inserted into the USB port of a laptop computer and voila! singer Jennifer Charles' smoky, lilting lyrics and Oren Bloedow's reverbed-out, brooding guitar lines filled the living room. Charles called the new technology "a beautiful thing." "I'm very excited to be a part of this incredible and sexy technology," she said between songs. "It makes us feel very James Bond. You can have your little pens - wow, beam me up Scotty." On the net: eMusic Live: http://www.emusiclive.com eMusic: http://www.emusic.com The Orchard: http://www.theorchard.com Elysian Fields: http://www.elysianmusic.com Maxwell's: http://www.maxwellsnj.com ------------------------------ From: "james helgy" Subject: FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE! Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 12:49:38 -0500 SUBTRACT $70.00 I'm selling off some of my INCREDIBLE DATs. They all were used by recording studios for production & finding the perfect mixes before production. There are NO data & cheapass tapes. They range in length from 30min.-94min......with most being closer to the latter. They are manfucatured by Apogee, Ampex, HHB, Denon, Maxell, Sony, DIC, TDK, 3M, AGFA.Most of them have tags reading "Production Master....Remix Master.....and the like. Actually, There are several artists you are familliar with, but, as I'm selling these as blanks, I WILL NOT mention the artists. Most of these tapes sold for $8-$12 apiece........which means it'd be worth $1680 - $2520! I'm putting them up @ $1.85 each!!!! So, With shipping, if you want USPS priority mail......It'd be $408.50.........UPS Ground is $412.00..........Keep in mind, these are the rates for the Continental USA states. Reach me here, or @ jameshelgerson@sbcglobal.net MINUS $70.00!!!!!! . _________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar – get it now! http://toolbar.msn.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/ ------------------------------ From: Liam Sean Kennedy Subject: Re: FS: 210 PRO AUDIO DATs - LOWER PRICE! Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 14:47:23 -0400 --On Thursday, April 29, 2004 12:49 PM -0500 james helgy wrote: > SUBTRACT $70.00 > I'm selling off some of my INCREDIBLE DATs. Instead of the hyperbole about INCREDIBLE DATs, you could say "I have X 30 min dats, X 60 .... 25 DIC, 20 Agfa" and let people decide if its worth more to them than "cheapxxx" DATs, ok. (Sure back when we started DAT-heads in 1989/90 used 30-90min DATs for $1.85 would have been INCREDIBLE, but today your message reads like bulk email. I think you would get a better response, if any, just being straightforward.) Sean ------------------------------ From: "Joe & Gen Reed" Subject: ISO: Ekoostik Hookah Setlist Madison, WI 4/10/04 Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 17:58:54 -0500 Need setlist for the 4/10/04 Ekoostik Hookah set as opener for Leftover Salmon. Please email me off page. Thanks, joe.com ------------------------------ From: Jeff Shirkey Subject: WTD: Patty Griffin Date: Thu, 29 Apr 2004 21:06:35 -0500 Looking for Patty Griffin shows from her upcoming tour. Will anyone be at the Chicago show on 5/15? Thanks, Jeff ------------------------------ From: "Bas Ruesink" Subject: ISO: URL of mounting AT831 in a hat Date: Fri, 30 Apr 2004 11:33:22 +0200 hi all, just bought a pair of AT831 (guess who sold them :-) ), and now i think there was a webpage somewhere were they showed how to mount those mics in a hat. but i can't remeber the URL, can any of you? Bas _________________________________________________________________ Play online games with your friends with MSN Messenger http://messenger.msn.nl/ ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************