DAT-heads Digest #110, Volume #7 Mon, 10 May 04 11:50:01 EDT Contents: Re: cassette transfer recommendations? (todd romero) cassette>CPU ("Gary Davis") Re: Assholes talking/assholes beating on assholes ("Jan Allbright") Re: cassette transfer recommendations? (Mikkel Breiler) Cool Edit 2000 S.O.S (Meurglys3@att.net) FS: DPA 4061 Mics (Malcolm Hathaway) FS: Sony PCM-R500 ("Matt Edlhuber") FS: D8 and Lunatec 316 ("William J. LaPier") FS: Sony PCM-M1 + RM-D3K ("Chris Black") Re: DAT-heads Digest #109 /Re: concert behavior (acffh) David Bromberg Taping policy? (casey) coax to optical s/pdif converters bit accurate? (Jonathan Casper) extra for trade ("alf") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: todd romero Subject: Re: cassette transfer recommendations? Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 07:57:53 -0400 (EDT) the A/D conversion is the most important. using a good a/d converor is key. also having a deck that u can adjust the azimuth on it bigtime important. often there is a porblem with the pitch being off when u transfer old cassettes on a different deck that it was recorded on. so using a good recording proigram is important cause you can adjust the pitch in post processing On Sat, 8 May 2004, David Mobley wrote: > Anyone have recommendations on good equipment to use to get an optimal > transfer of a cassette to PC? Specifically, if I were going to get a > deck to use is there any significant noticeable advantage of certain > decks over others and what sort of price range can I expect for something > that's worthwhile to use? > > Any particular filters or other Cool Edit settings that might be good to > help clean up cassette transfers also? > > Any advice is welcome, thanks in advance. > -- > David Mobley > dmobley@fastmail.fm > ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: cassette>CPU Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 05:47:21 -0700 Most people will tell you, a deck with either a manual or automatic azimuth adjustment will give you the optimal "tracking" for cassettes recorded over a period of time. Try if possible to match the Dolby type - none - B - or C - as was used in recording. In Cool Edit, the noise reduction feature can be very useful - set the FFT to 16,536 (or whatever is close to that) before using it - and try to transfer a short segment of cassette hiss without sound that you can use later for your noise sample. Of course, you will still need to get the analog audio into your computer. For my money, I still prefer to burn it to a CD with a stand-alone recorder, and then 'rip' the CD into my computer. Whatever you do, DON't use the 1/8" input that comes with the computer - it's total crap in most cases. --G ------------------------------ From: "Jan Allbright" Subject: Re: Assholes talking/assholes beating on assholes Reply-To: Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 06:24:02 -0700 Which is why I post a sign on my mic stand that sez.... "Shut Up and Dance!" ------------------------------ From: Mikkel Breiler Subject: Re: cassette transfer recommendations? Reply-To: mibm@tiscali.dk Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:55:32 +0200 On Sat, 8 May 04 06:50:01 EDT, Digestifier wrote: >From: "David Mobley" >Subject: cassette transfer recommendations? >Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 02:23:41 -0400 > >Anyone have recommendations on good equipment to use to get an optimal >transfer of a cassette to PC? Specifically, if I were going to get a >deck to use is there any significant noticeable advantage of certain >decks over others and what sort of price range can I expect for = something >that's worthwhile to use? =20 The deck used to record the tapes, or failing that, a deck with a good head adjusted for brightest playback of the tape to sample. >Any particular filters or other Cool Edit settings that might be good to >help clean up cassette transfers also? =20 The adaptive noise filter will be your biggest friend. It will require a short length of sample with only the noise, i.e. tape hiss, then you can subtract that from the rest of the material. Depending on how hard you do this there will be didigtal artifacts, which will sound like wobbling, watery effects in the high register. Email me offlist for some pointers on decks, mechanics, recording settings, and postrecording filtering. I have a lot of experience from sampling and cleaning Cassettes, Open Reel and vinyl recordings. I also have been mastering some of the longer finished results to DAT, as I hate to break up a good concert to fit a CDR. -breiler ------------------------------ From: Meurglys3@att.net Subject: Cool Edit 2000 S.O.S Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:07:34 +0000 Hail Heads, I have a mind boggling problem recording via CE2K and need a bonafied "expert" or 2 who would be willing to work with me troubleshooting it off list. I'm afraid I've met my Waterloo here! I'll spare everyone the gory details for now, but will explain the problem in detail to any willing soul who contacts me privately. "I've tried nothing and am running out of ideas." Thanks, Tom Meurglys3@att.net ------------------------------ From: Malcolm Hathaway Subject: FS: DPA 4061 Mics Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 11:15:40 -0400 Hey all, I have a couple of DPA 4061s (same as Core Sound High End Binaurals), black in color, which have a gold-plated 1/8 inch stereo jack attached (not a low-profile or 90 degree jack, however). I'd like to get $250 for the pair, ($255 including shipping). If you are interested, I can adjust the length of the cable +/- a couple of feet, to make stealthing easier. I actually have two sets, a pair that are beige (untested at the moment), and a pair that are black (tested, with slightly un-matched sensitivity) which have the 1/8 stereo jack. Email off-line if you'd like either pair, or more information. Mac mhathaway@XXnetway.com (just remove the XX) Maynard, MA ------------------------------ From: "Matt Edlhuber" Subject: FS: Sony PCM-R500 Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 10:15:19 -0500 This deck is about 5 years old purchased new from Terrapin Tapes. Never left my house, cosmetically it is mint condition. Mechanically it is working perfectly, i've never had a single issue with this deck. All I ever used it for was cloning really and some light playback. I just checked the hour meter and it has 3900 hours on it. This deck is an absolute tank, I dont really want to part with it but I just havent used it in like 2 years, so since I'm selling everything else I figure this thing probably should go too. I'll also throw in an Audio Presto II digital coax with locking interconnects. I believe i've got the origonal box around, and the manual, as well as the remote. Make me an offer. I can take digital pics too if you are interested. The PCM-R500 rackmount DAT recorder is evidence of Sony's 10 year commitment toward advancing digital audio technology. Designed with the professional audio and video studio in mind, it is built around the stability of 4-motor direct drive transports. A flexible number of analog and digital I/O terminals are available for connecting to almost any audio hardware. Sony's 20-bit Super Bit Mapping technology is used in the analog to digital circuitry enabling recordings rivaling near 20-bit resolution. Key Features Analog recording supports 16-bit 44.1 and 48 kHz sample rates (standard mode) and 12-bit/32kHz (Long Play Mode). Long Play Mode allows 4 hours recording on a 120-minute tape. Digital input recording accepts sample rates of 32, 44.1 and 48 kHz. RCA (Phono) line inputs and outputs Coaxial and Optical S/PDIF digital I/O Headphone output with level control 20-bit Super Bit Mapping analog to digital converts give you a signal to noise spec close to that of an actual 20-bit recording. nput monitor allows you to audition audio without engaging transports saving on wear and tear of both the tape and tape heads. AMS (Automatic Music Sensor) allows you to quickly and easily shuttle to any track on a tape. Program Number and Start, and ID subcodes can be written manually or automatically for direct track number access through the supplied remote control or AMS function. Counter mode display switchable between absolute time, program time, remaining time on tape, error rate and menu LED display shows level and margin, transport status, sample rate, input source, program number, tape running time, absolute time, playing time of the track, remaining time on the tape, date and time of recording and current date and time. Displays total drum operating time up to 9999 hours in 1 hour increments Supplied accessories include; RM-D757 wireless remote, AC power cord, rackmount adapter with mounting screws and washers. Menu settings are stored internally and memorized after power down Record mute duration can be set between 0.5 to 9.5 seconds in units of 0.5 seconds. factory default is 4 seconds. Settable Serial Copy Management System (SCMS) allows multiple copies, one copy or no copies of a DAT tape. When recording digitally, start ID and skip ID detection is settable to on or off. Level sync threshold sets the reference input level for recognizing start IDs. Settings range from -12 to -60 dB in 1dB increments. The ability to recognize CD-Q codes (track numbers) when recording from a CD is settable to on or off. Level sync blank time sets the amount of time the audio signal must stay below the sync threshold before a new start ID is written. 4 Direct Drive motor transport ensures a reliable and extremely stable tape path Independent record level controls for left and right analog inputs Automatically or manually writes Program Numbers, Start Id's, Skip Id's and End Id's subcode information. Jog dial/Shuttle wheel - shuttle wheel allows audible cue and review 10.5 to 18 times normal speed (11 to 18 times in Long Play mode), while the jog dial is used as a data entry device for menu options and AMS (Automatic Music Search) Program Number access Erase start-ID and skip-ID function Repeat function plays a single track or entire tape continuously Renumbering function searches all start-Ids from the beginning of the tape and writes consecutive program numbers Specific absolute time locations can be temporarily stored and recalled using the Mark and Locate function. Stored locations are lost once a tape is removed or the deck is turned off. The rehearsal function ensures accurate positioning of subcodes. Once a general location for the desired subcode is found and the rehearsal button is engaged, a 3 second section of tape will repeat 8 times while the fast forward and rewind buttons allow fine adjustment of the locate point in 0.3 second steps. Subcodes can than be written in the usual fashion. Existing start IDs can be accurately repositioned as much as 2 seconds using the rehearsal function. XLR balanced and RCA (Phono) unbalanced analog I/O for compatibility with professional and consumer equipment Switchable between XLR balanced AES/EBU and coaxial S/PDIF Digital I/O 8-pin parallel port is available for custom wired remote control of transports. Serial remote input for optional RM-D750 wired remote Includes wireless remote commander -- Matt Edlhuber medlhuber@hotmail.com http://www.crazyed.org ------------------------------ From: "William J. LaPier" Subject: FS: D8 and Lunatec 316 Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 08:52:28 -0700 hey, unfortunately i need to sell these two items. d8--just recently sent into prodigital for a once over. deck was cleaned and aligned. maybe 10hrs of playback since i got it back. i'm the second owner and i was told the hrs are low. the work by prodigital was done recently--maybe one month ago. i have the receipt from prodigital, the original sony battery sled, and pleather case. the deck is in excellent shape. no box or manual. i might have the 6volt ac walwart--but for now it's not included. $275--shipped. lunatec 316--this is really hard for me to do. but i'm forced to sell. the 316 just got back from grace designs. i sent it in for a once over--to receive a clean bill of health. jamie at grace told me that mike not sure but maybe only 20 of these units were ever made. very rare vintage grace equipment. work done was repair to faulty low battery indicator, and replacement of electrolytic caps(?) for film caps(?). jamie said the unit would sound better! i also have an oade 12volt battery and charger, and power cable. the 316 is in excellent condition. i'm taking a hit here--$675 firm--shipped. bill ------------------------------ From: "Chris Black" Subject: FS: Sony PCM-M1 + RM-D3K Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:07:09 +0000 For sale: Sony PCM-M1. Great condition, low hours. Only used for field taping, not for transfers. Comes with pleather case, 2 batteries, battery recharger, box, instructions(power cable is north american plug) and a Sony DM-D3K (wireless remote Commander, Optical I/O, Coax I/O) (power cable is European plug -swiss) Price: 475 USD or 400 EUR (shipping to be discussed depending on location - I am located in Europe) Please drop me a line for more info or pix, Chris Black - krsb@hotmail.com Christopher Black - on the road: krsb@hotmail.com - otherwise: chrisb@whurl.com - http://www.whurl.com ------------------------------ From: acffh Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #109 /Re: concert behavior Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:43:10 -0500 I personally can speak for the extremely high quality and effectiveness of the american-made LED microllights. There are three versions- the "1" is a squeeze light that pulses on when it's pressed. The "2" has an additional small plastic switch to allow it to be switched on like a normal flashlight. the "3" has a 2-way electronic button where the front part is a pulse on like the "1" but the back part can be held down to set a program mode, and then when the back is squeezed, the light comes on at the programmed intensity. they come in lots of colors, the red lasts a LONG time, different colors have different properties of beamwidth and battery use. a good bright flash right to the eyes of the loud jerk who manages to ignore all well-intentioned pantomime to quiet down can often drive the point home with no additional audio component. But not always! :-\ :-) On May 8, 2004, at 5:50 AM, Digestifier wrote: > From: Seth Breidbart > Subject: Re: concert behavior > Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:04:01 -0400 (EDT) > >> Many people go to a concert to be wild and loud and drunk, > > If they can scream in my ears, I can shine flashlights in their eyes. > > Seth ------------------------------ From: casey Subject: David Bromberg Taping policy? Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT) Does anybody know what David Brombergs recent taping policy is? In the late 70's early 80's he was cool with it, but the policy chaged when he had some new band members who were nervous about seeing mics in the crowd. His mananger asked me to stop taping so we just sat at the front table and put the mics under a sweater after that. The manager always bought me black and tans too, not a bad deal. I'll do a b& p for anyone that wants a nice David Bromberg show 7/18/82 Hunts Burlington, VT ===== Make Tapes Not war Casey __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover ------------------------------ From: Jonathan Casper Subject: coax to optical s/pdif converters bit accurate? Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:00:00 -0400 Has anyone determined if the low-cost Calrad or Midiman CO2/CO3 coax to optical converters are bit accurate? I remember reading that the Midiman CO2 may not be. ------------------------------ From: "alf" Subject: extra for trade Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:59:42 +0200 i've as extra the following concerts (WAV format) recorded in ONE DVD. You can edit for yourself, and later put ID tracks the DVD includes: CROSBY, PEAVAR & RAIMOND 7/28/98 Paradiso, Amsterdam, Holland 149m DAUD A csb Alf remaster DICK DALE 4/6/97 Blind Pig, Ann Arbor, Mi. 79m. DSDB A Alf remaster OH SUSANNA 11/10/2003 Sendesaal, Bremen, Germany 113m. Sat-Fm A/A+ ESBJORN SVENSSON TRIO w/Schleswig Holstein Chamber Orchestra & Pat Metheny 7/5/2003 Jazz Baltica, Salzau, Germany 56m. Sat-Fm A/A+ THE FUNK BROTHERS feat. Billy Preston, Stefan Gwildis und Steve Winwood Feb. 5, 2004 CCH 3, Hamburg, Germany 55m Sat-FM A/A+ =============== I would like receive in trade 1 dvd with some audio concerts (wav, flac or shn's is ok for me), or 6 audio cd's send me your list. Have only one dvd to give away. Alf ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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