DAT-heads Digest #110
Contents:
Re: cassette transfer recommendations? (todd romero)
cassette>CPU ("Gary Davis")
Re: Assholes talking/assholes beating on assholes ("Jan Allbright")
Re: cassette transfer recommendations? (Mikkel Breiler)
Cool Edit 2000 S.O.S (Meurglys3@att.net)
FS: DPA 4061 Mics (Malcolm Hathaway)
FS: Sony PCM-R500 ("Matt Edlhuber")
FS: D8 and Lunatec 316 ("William J. LaPier")
FS: Sony PCM-M1 + RM-D3K ("Chris Black")
Re: DAT-heads Digest #109 /Re: concert behavior (acffh)
David Bromberg Taping policy? (casey)
coax to optical s/pdif converters bit accurate? (Jonathan Casper)
extra for trade ("alf")
From: todd romero <todd@routeflap.net>
Subject: Re: cassette transfer recommendations?
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 07:57:53 -0400 (EDT)
the A/D conversion is the most important. using a good a/d converor is
key. also having a deck that u can adjust the azimuth on it bigtime
important. often there is a porblem with the pitch being off when u
transfer old cassettes on a different deck that it was recorded on. so
using a good recording proigram is important cause you can adjust the
pitch in post processing
On Sat, 8 May 2004, David Mobley wrote:
> Anyone have recommendations on good equipment to use to get an optimal
> transfer of a cassette to PC? Specifically, if I were going to get a
> deck to use is there any significant noticeable advantage of certain
> decks over others and what sort of price range can I expect for something
> that's worthwhile to use?
>
> Any particular filters or other Cool Edit settings that might be good to
> help clean up cassette transfers also?
>
> Any advice is welcome, thanks in advance.
> --
> David Mobley
> dmobley@fastmail.fm
>
From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: cassette>CPU
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 05:47:21 -0700
Most people will tell you, a deck with either a manual or automatic
azimuth adjustment will give you the optimal "tracking" for
cassettes recorded over a period of time. Try if possible to match
the Dolby type - none - B - or C - as was used in recording. In
Cool Edit, the noise reduction feature can be very useful - set the
FFT to 16,536 (or whatever is close to that) before using it - and try
to transfer a short segment of cassette hiss without sound that you
can use later for your noise sample.
Of course, you will still need to get the analog audio into your
computer. For my money, I still prefer to burn it to a CD with a
stand-alone recorder, and then 'rip' the CD into my computer.
Whatever you do, DON't use the 1/8" input that comes with the
computer - it's total crap in most cases.
--G
From: "Jan Allbright" <jallbright@verdeonline.com>
Subject: Re: Assholes talking/assholes beating on assholes
Reply-To: <jallbright@verdeonline.com>
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 06:24:02 -0700
Which is why I post a sign on my mic stand that sez....
"Shut Up and Dance!"
From: Mikkel Breiler <mibm@tiscali.dk>
Subject: Re: cassette transfer recommendations?
Reply-To: mibm@tiscali.dk
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:55:32 +0200
On Sat, 8 May 04 06:50:01 EDT, Digestifier
<DAT-heads-Request@datheads.phish.net> wrote:
>From: "David Mobley" <dmobley@fastmail.fm>
>Subject: cassette transfer recommendations?
>Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 02:23:41 -0400
>
>Anyone have recommendations on good equipment to use to get an optimal
>transfer of a cassette to PC? Specifically, if I were going to get a
>deck to use is there any significant noticeable advantage of certain
>decks over others and what sort of price range can I expect for =
something
>that's worthwhile to use? =20
The deck used to record the tapes, or failing that, a deck with a good
head adjusted for brightest playback of the tape to sample.
>Any particular filters or other Cool Edit settings that might be good to
>help clean up cassette transfers also? =20
The adaptive noise filter will be your biggest friend.
It will require a short length of sample with only the noise, i.e.
tape hiss, then you can subtract that from the rest of the material.
Depending on how hard you do this there will be didigtal artifacts,
which will sound like wobbling, watery effects in the high register.
Email me offlist for some pointers on decks, mechanics, recording
settings, and postrecording filtering. I have a lot of experience from
sampling and cleaning Cassettes, Open Reel and vinyl recordings. I
also have been mastering some of the longer finished results to DAT,
as I hate to break up a good concert to fit a CDR.
-breiler
From: Meurglys3@att.net
Subject: Cool Edit 2000 S.O.S
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 15:07:34 +0000
Hail Heads,
I have a mind boggling problem recording via CE2K and need a bonafied "expert" or 2 who would be willing to work with me troubleshooting it off list. I'm afraid I've met my Waterloo here!
I'll spare everyone the gory details for now, but will explain the problem in detail to any
willing soul who contacts me privately.
"I've tried nothing and am running out of ideas."
Thanks,
Tom
Meurglys3@att.net
From: Malcolm Hathaway <mhathaway@netway.com>
Subject: FS: DPA 4061 Mics
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 11:15:40 -0400
Hey all,
I have a couple of DPA 4061s (same as Core Sound High End Binaurals), black
in color, which have a gold-plated 1/8 inch stereo jack attached (not a
low-profile or 90 degree jack, however).
I'd like to get $250 for the pair, ($255 including shipping).
If you are interested, I can adjust the length of the cable +/- a couple of
feet, to make stealthing easier. I actually have two sets, a pair that are
beige (untested at the moment), and a pair that are black (tested, with
slightly un-matched sensitivity) which have the 1/8 stereo jack.
Email off-line if you'd like either pair, or more information.
Mac
mhathaway@XXnetway.com (just remove the XX)
Maynard, MA
From: "Matt Edlhuber" <medlhuber@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Sony PCM-R500
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 10:15:19 -0500
This deck is about 5 years old purchased new from Terrapin Tapes. Never
left my house, cosmetically it is mint condition. Mechanically it is
working perfectly, i've never had a single issue with this deck. All I ever
used it for was cloning really and some light playback. I just checked the
hour meter and it has 3900 hours on it. This deck is an absolute tank, I
dont really want to part with it but I just havent used it in like 2 years,
so since I'm selling everything else I figure this thing probably should go
too. I'll also throw in an Audio Presto II digital coax with locking
interconnects. I believe i've got the origonal box around, and the manual,
as well as the remote. Make me an offer. I can take digital pics too if you
are interested.
The PCM-R500 rackmount DAT recorder is evidence of Sony's 10 year
commitment toward advancing digital audio technology. Designed with the
professional audio and video studio in mind, it is built around the
stability of
4-motor direct drive transports. A flexible number of analog and digital I/O
terminals are available for connecting to almost any audio hardware. Sony's
20-bit Super Bit Mapping technology is used in the analog to digital
circuitry
enabling recordings rivaling near 20-bit resolution.
Key Features
Analog recording supports 16-bit 44.1 and 48 kHz sample rates (standard
mode) and 12-bit/32kHz (Long Play Mode). Long Play Mode allows 4 hours
recording on a 120-minute tape.
Digital input recording accepts sample rates of 32, 44.1 and 48 kHz.
RCA (Phono) line inputs and outputs
Coaxial and Optical S/PDIF digital I/O
Headphone output with level control
20-bit Super Bit Mapping analog to digital converts give you a signal to
noise spec close to that of an actual 20-bit recording.
nput monitor allows you to audition audio without engaging transports saving
on wear and tear of both the tape and tape heads.
AMS (Automatic Music Sensor) allows you to quickly and easily shuttle to any
track on a tape.
Program Number and Start, and ID subcodes can be written manually or
automatically for direct track number access through the supplied remote
control or AMS function.
Counter mode display switchable between absolute time, program time,
remaining time on tape, error rate and menu
LED display shows level and margin, transport status, sample rate, input
source, program number, tape running time, absolute time, playing time of
the track, remaining time on the tape, date and time of recording and
current date and time.
Displays total drum operating time up to 9999 hours in 1 hour increments
Supplied accessories include; RM-D757 wireless remote, AC power cord,
rackmount adapter with mounting screws and washers.
Menu settings are stored internally and memorized after power down
Record mute duration can be set between 0.5 to 9.5 seconds in units of 0.5
seconds. factory default is 4 seconds.
Settable Serial Copy Management System (SCMS) allows multiple copies, one
copy or no copies of a DAT tape.
When recording digitally, start ID and skip ID detection is settable to on
or off.
Level sync threshold sets the reference input level for recognizing start
IDs. Settings range from -12 to -60 dB in 1dB increments.
The ability to recognize CD-Q codes (track numbers) when recording from a CD
is settable to on or off.
Level sync blank time sets the amount of time the audio signal must stay
below the sync threshold before a new start ID is written.
4 Direct Drive motor transport ensures a reliable and extremely stable tape
path
Independent record level controls for left and right analog inputs
Automatically or manually writes Program Numbers, Start Id's, Skip Id's and
End Id's subcode information.
Jog dial/Shuttle wheel - shuttle wheel allows audible cue and review 10.5 to
18 times normal speed (11 to 18 times in Long Play mode), while the jog dial
is used as a data entry device for menu options and AMS (Automatic Music
Search) Program Number access
Erase start-ID and skip-ID function
Repeat function plays a single track or entire tape continuously
Renumbering function searches all start-Ids from the beginning of the tape
and writes consecutive program numbers
Specific absolute time locations can be temporarily stored and recalled
using the Mark and Locate function. Stored locations are lost once a tape is
removed or the deck is turned off.
The rehearsal function ensures accurate positioning of subcodes. Once a
general location for the desired subcode is found and the rehearsal button
is engaged, a 3 second section of tape will repeat 8 times while the fast
forward and rewind buttons allow fine adjustment of the locate point in 0.3
second steps. Subcodes can than be written in the usual fashion.
Existing start IDs can be accurately repositioned as much as 2 seconds using
the rehearsal function.
XLR balanced and RCA (Phono) unbalanced analog I/O for compatibility with
professional and consumer equipment
Switchable between XLR balanced AES/EBU and coaxial S/PDIF Digital I/O
8-pin parallel port is available for custom wired remote control of
transports.
Serial remote input for optional RM-D750 wired remote
Includes wireless remote commander
--
Matt Edlhuber
medlhuber@hotmail.com
http://www.crazyed.org
From: "William J. LaPier" <wjlapier@charter.net>
Subject: FS: D8 and Lunatec 316
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 08:52:28 -0700
hey,
unfortunately i need to sell these two items.
d8--just recently sent into prodigital for a once over. deck was cleaned
and aligned. maybe 10hrs of playback since i got it back. i'm the second
owner and i was told the hrs are low. the work by prodigital was done
recently--maybe one month ago. i have the receipt from prodigital, the
original sony battery sled, and pleather case. the deck is in excellent
shape. no box or manual. i might have the 6volt ac walwart--but for now
it's not included. $275--shipped.
lunatec 316--this is really hard for me to do. but i'm forced to sell. the
316 just got back from grace designs. i sent it in for a once over--to
receive a clean bill of health. jamie at grace told me that mike not sure
but maybe only 20 of these units were ever made. very rare vintage grace
equipment. work done was repair to faulty low battery indicator, and
replacement of electrolytic caps(?) for film caps(?). jamie said the unit
would sound better! i also have an oade 12volt battery and charger, and
power cable. the 316 is in excellent condition. i'm taking a hit
here--$675 firm--shipped.
bill
From: "Chris Black" <krsb@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Sony PCM-M1 + RM-D3K
Date: Sat, 08 May 2004 16:07:09 +0000
For sale:
Sony PCM-M1. Great condition, low hours. Only used for field taping, not for
transfers. Comes with pleather case, 2 batteries, battery recharger, box,
instructions(power cable is north american plug) and a Sony DM-D3K (wireless
remote Commander, Optical I/O, Coax I/O) (power cable is European plug
-swiss)
Price: 475 USD or 400 EUR
(shipping to be discussed depending on location - I am located in Europe)
Please drop me a line for more info or pix,
Chris Black - krsb@hotmail.com
Christopher Black
- on the road: krsb@hotmail.com
- otherwise: chrisb@whurl.com
- http://www.whurl.com
From: acffh <morst@tds.net>
Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #109 /Re: concert behavior
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 11:43:10 -0500
I personally can speak for the extremely high quality and effectiveness
of the american-made LED microllights. There are three versions- the
"1" is a squeeze light that pulses on when it's pressed. The "2" has
an additional small plastic switch to allow it to be switched on like a
normal flashlight. the "3" has a 2-way electronic button where the
front part is a pulse on like the "1" but the back part can be held
down to set a program mode, and then when the back is squeezed, the
light comes on at the programmed intensity. they come in lots of
colors, the red lasts a LONG time, different colors have different
properties of beamwidth and battery use.
a good bright flash right to the eyes of the loud jerk who manages to
ignore all well-intentioned pantomime to quiet down can often drive the
point home with no additional audio component. But not always! :-\
:-)
On May 8, 2004, at 5:50 AM, Digestifier wrote:
> From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
> Subject: Re: concert behavior
> Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 21:04:01 -0400 (EDT)
>
>> Many people go to a concert to be wild and loud and drunk,
>
> If they can scream in my ears, I can shine flashlights in their eyes.
>
> Seth
From: casey <vttaper2001@yahoo.com>
Subject: David Bromberg Taping policy?
Date: Sat, 8 May 2004 13:59:05 -0700 (PDT)
Does anybody know what David Brombergs recent taping
policy is? In the late 70's early 80's he was cool
with it, but the policy chaged when he had some new
band members who were nervous about seeing mics in the
crowd. His mananger asked me to stop taping so we just
sat at the front table and put the mics under a
sweater after that. The manager always bought me black
and tans too, not a bad deal.
I'll do a b& p for anyone that wants a nice David
Bromberg show 7/18/82 Hunts Burlington, VT
=====
Make Tapes Not war
Casey
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From: Jonathan Casper <casper@world.std.com>
Subject: coax to optical s/pdif converters bit accurate?
Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 11:00:00 -0400
Has anyone determined if the low-cost Calrad or Midiman CO2/CO3 coax
to optical converters are bit accurate? I remember reading that the
Midiman CO2 may not be.
From: "alf" <md2001@mclink.it>
Subject: extra for trade
Date: Sun, 9 May 2004 19:59:42 +0200
i've as extra the following concerts (WAV format) recorded in ONE DVD.
You can edit for yourself, and later put ID tracks
the DVD includes:
CROSBY, PEAVAR & RAIMOND
7/28/98 Paradiso, Amsterdam, Holland 149m DAUD A csb Alf remaster
DICK DALE
4/6/97 Blind Pig, Ann Arbor, Mi. 79m. DSDB A Alf remaster
OH SUSANNA
11/10/2003 Sendesaal, Bremen, Germany 113m. Sat-Fm A/A+
ESBJORN SVENSSON TRIO w/Schleswig Holstein Chamber Orchestra & Pat Metheny
7/5/2003 Jazz Baltica, Salzau, Germany 56m. Sat-Fm A/A+
THE FUNK BROTHERS
feat. Billy Preston, Stefan Gwildis und Steve Winwood
Feb. 5, 2004 CCH 3, Hamburg, Germany 55m Sat-FM A/A+
===============
I would like receive in trade 1 dvd with some audio concerts (wav, flac or
shn's is ok for me), or 6 audio cd's
send me your list.
Have only one dvd to give away.
Alf
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