DAT-heads Digest #126

Contents:
  Preventing misload in portables ("Gary Davis")
  HSFstival  The Cure 22-05-2004 (Shane Joyce)
  ISO- Jewel, late show, 5/22/04 ("John Florek")
  New JamBand Discussion Group ("Stu Jones")
  Clear Channel - Instant Live CDs patent (Long) ("Music Is Special")


From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Preventing misload in portables
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:38:17 -0700

I use a studio deck (Fostex D5) to repack each DAT before I use it.
After repacking the tape, I record about a minute of analog silence.
I don't rewind the tape before putting it in the D8.

When I put it in the D8, I rewind the tape just before I'm ready to 
use it.  If it shows A-Time while it's rewinding, it's threaded 
correctly.  (Be sure to switch to A-time mode or the counter 
reading is meaningless.)

A-Time will be a Positive number counting down.
R-Time (meaningless) will be a negative number counting up: 
switch the counter function.

--Gary



From: Shane Joyce <witch1@culthero.de>
Subject: HSFstival  The Cure 22-05-2004
Reply-To: witch1@culthero.de
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT)

Just curious if anyone taped their set.

S.

http://witch1cure.tripod.com/

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From: "John Florek" <jflorek@csus.edu>
Subject: ISO- Jewel, late show, 5/22/04
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:22:50 -0700

I know this is an odd request, but are there any tapes of this show around?
Sounds like it was an interesting night...
http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/hampton/05232004/news/17773.htm

john




From: "Stu Jones" <gr8ful@kardworx.com>
Subject: New JamBand Discussion Group
Reply-To: <gr8ful@kardworx.com>
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:57:06 -0400

Hey Guys!
Ever since I joined the Allman Brothers Band listserv discussion in Dec of
'95,
and later EMule (and TheIncidentalist) etc etc, I have felt there was a need
for a central clearing house for JamBand info. We all have "our" band(s) but
in general
I feel we should all follow "the jamband scene" as well, so we can catch
local shows,
trade across band groups, be turned onto new bands, etc. So, following the
announcement
by Phish today, I decided to start that central list. Hopefully you guys
will agree
with me. I am thinking for those of you on several lists this would be a
great list to
receive in digest form. A place where you can post your fave band's tour
dates, reviews of
shows, offer to trade (and get music from bands you may not always follow
but have heard gave
a good show recently), and have general discussion and chat about the
overall jamband scene.
I started this as a Yahoo! group with the following description:

Taping, trading, show reviews, tour announcements, tickets and ticket
trading, discussion & general chat of the overall jamband scene, including
but not limited to: Grateful Dead, Phish, Allman Brothers Band, The Dead,
Govt Mule, Dave Matthews Band, Widespread Panic, Phil & Friends, String
Cheese Incident, Umphrees McGee and any other band you want to bring into
discussion or turn your fellow jam-banders onto. The basic idea is to have a
central place for you to get news about the jamband scene apart from the
bands you primarily follow.

Because i consider you to all be friends, I am sending this out in several
initial mailings. I am not currently
on the incidentalist or any groups that discuss WSP or Umphrees. I would ask
that someone pass this information
onto discussion groups for those bands, and any large
taping/trading/discussion groups dealing with the jamband
scene for me. If you want to join, please send an e-mail to:
jamchat-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Thanks for taking the time to read this (and hopefully subscribe) and help
me start a larger discussion that
goes beyond the boundaries of being "dead-heads" "phish-heads"
"spread-heads" etc etc...
Peace
Stu Jones

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From: "Music Is Special" <musicisspecial@hotmail.com>
Subject: Clear Channel - Instant Live CDs patent (Long)
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:01:07 -0500

In case anybody is interested, the Rolling Stone article below is amazing.
I really don't understand how Clear Channel thinks they can stop bands from
doing instant cds.

I actually went on line and read the Clear Channel patent.  If you go to
www.uspto.gov and look up patent 6,614,729 you can read the entire thing.
Its only about 12 pages long.  First of all, Clear Channel did not invent
this.  Two brothers, David and James Griner invented it and then "sold" it
to Clear Channel.  The former is an attorney in Austin and the latter is an
engineer in the Seattle area.  The abstract of the patent says clearly it is
an event recording system - it doesn't patent the idea of making CDs
"instantly".  The guts of it seems to be their system of in essence dividing
the audio stream into lots of little segments so that one or more people can
simultaneously edit more than one track and then the burners can burn a
track at a time as the show is progressing instead of burning the full show
only when it is over.  I'm not an attorney but it seems to me that anybody
who has another way of making "instant" cds will not infringe.  Hence, this
does seem to be another case of Clear Channel rapaciousness.  It wouldn't
surprise me if they know darn well they are over-reaching but in essence
dare anybody else to be willing to spend as much on lawyers as Clear Channel
is.  As for me, I think I don't want to buy Clear Channel Instant Live CDs.
Ironically, the inventors gave an interview where they said they wanted to
do this so that artists could benefit instead of bootleggers.  CC doesn't
seem much better.

Boo hiss!


from ROLLING STONE, May 24, 2004:

Clear Channel Limits Live CDs

Company to block bands from selling instant albums


In the past few years, fans leaving some concerts have discovered a
souvenir far better than a T-shirt: a live recording of the show they just
attended. Bands including the Allman Brothers, moe. and Billy Idol have
sold instant concert discs, and the Pixies and the Doors plan to launch
similar programs this summer. The recording-and-burning company DiscLive
estimated on April 12th that it would gross $500,000 selling live discs
this spring alone.

But in a move expected to severely limit the industry, Clear Channel
Entertainment has bought the patent from the technology's inventors and now
claims to own the exclusive right to sell concert CDs after shows. The
company, which is the biggest concert promoter in the world, says the
patent covers its 130 venues along with every other venue in the country.

"We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel
executive vice president and the director of Instant Live. "But it is a
business, and it's not going to be 'we have the patent, now everybody can
use it for free.'"

Artists net about ten dollars for every twenty- to twenty-five-dollar
concert CD that's sold, no matter which company they use. But with Clear
Channel pushing to eliminate competition, many fear there will be less
money and fewer opportunities to sell live discs. "It's one more step
toward massive control and consolidation of Clear Channel's corporate
agenda," says String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba, who feuded with
Clear Channel last year after promoters blocked the band from using
CD-burning equipment.

The Pixies, who are booking a fall reunion tour with several probable Clear
Channel venues, say Clear Channel has already told them DiscLive can't burn
and sell CDs on-site. "Presuming Clear Channel's service and product are of
equal quality, it may be best to feed the dragon rather than draw swords,"
says Pixies manager Ken Goes. "Still, I'm not fond of doing business with
my arm twisted behind my back."

Clear Channel doesn't plan to stop Phish, Pearl Jam, the Who or other bands
that make live recordings available days after the show. It has also
granted one-dollar licenses to a few up-and-coming bands to record and sell
instant CDs of their own shows. But Clear Channel executives maintain that
they have the right to stop anyone who tries to infringe on the patent.
Many say this strategy prevents inventors from jumping into a marketplace
and creating further innovation. "We'd like to see this industry opened up
to everybody," says Erik Stubblebine, founder and vice president of Hyburn,
a Phoenix company that has sold instant CDs for dozens of concerts in the
past three years. "They're trying to squeeze us."


STEVE KNOPPER
(Posted May 24, 2004)


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