DAT-heads Digest #126, Volume #7 Wed, 26 May 04 01:50:01 EDT Contents: Preventing misload in portables ("Gary Davis") HSFstival The Cure 22-05-2004 (Shane Joyce) ISO- Jewel, late show, 5/22/04 ("John Florek") New JamBand Discussion Group ("Stu Jones") Clear Channel - Instant Live CDs patent (Long) ("Music Is Special") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Preventing misload in portables Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Mon, 24 May 2004 23:38:17 -0700 I use a studio deck (Fostex D5) to repack each DAT before I use it. After repacking the tape, I record about a minute of analog silence. I don't rewind the tape before putting it in the D8. When I put it in the D8, I rewind the tape just before I'm ready to use it. If it shows A-Time while it's rewinding, it's threaded correctly. (Be sure to switch to A-time mode or the counter reading is meaningless.) A-Time will be a Positive number counting down. R-Time (meaningless) will be a negative number counting up: switch the counter function. --Gary ------------------------------ From: Shane Joyce Subject: HSFstival The Cure 22-05-2004 Reply-To: witch1@culthero.de Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 08:41:03 -0700 (PDT) Just curious if anyone taped their set. S. http://witch1cure.tripod.com/ _____________________________________________________________ free email address @culthero.de provided by http://www.curiosity.de ------------------------------ From: "John Florek" Subject: ISO- Jewel, late show, 5/22/04 Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 12:22:50 -0700 I know this is an odd request, but are there any tapes of this show around? Sounds like it was an interesting night... http://www.seacoastonline.com/news/hampton/05232004/news/17773.htm john ------------------------------ From: "Stu Jones" Subject: New JamBand Discussion Group Reply-To: Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 21:57:06 -0400 Hey Guys! Ever since I joined the Allman Brothers Band listserv discussion in Dec of '95, and later EMule (and TheIncidentalist) etc etc, I have felt there was a need for a central clearing house for JamBand info. We all have "our" band(s) but in general I feel we should all follow "the jamband scene" as well, so we can catch local shows, trade across band groups, be turned onto new bands, etc. So, following the announcement by Phish today, I decided to start that central list. Hopefully you guys will agree with me. I am thinking for those of you on several lists this would be a great list to receive in digest form. A place where you can post your fave band's tour dates, reviews of shows, offer to trade (and get music from bands you may not always follow but have heard gave a good show recently), and have general discussion and chat about the overall jamband scene. I started this as a Yahoo! group with the following description: Taping, trading, show reviews, tour announcements, tickets and ticket trading, discussion & general chat of the overall jamband scene, including but not limited to: Grateful Dead, Phish, Allman Brothers Band, The Dead, Govt Mule, Dave Matthews Band, Widespread Panic, Phil & Friends, String Cheese Incident, Umphrees McGee and any other band you want to bring into discussion or turn your fellow jam-banders onto. The basic idea is to have a central place for you to get news about the jamband scene apart from the bands you primarily follow. Because i consider you to all be friends, I am sending this out in several initial mailings. I am not currently on the incidentalist or any groups that discuss WSP or Umphrees. I would ask that someone pass this information onto discussion groups for those bands, and any large taping/trading/discussion groups dealing with the jamband scene for me. If you want to join, please send an e-mail to: jamchat-subscribe@yahoogroups.com Thanks for taking the time to read this (and hopefully subscribe) and help me start a larger discussion that goes beyond the boundaries of being "dead-heads" "phish-heads" "spread-heads" etc etc... Peace Stu Jones ********************************************** kardworx Web Design E-Commerce Search Engine Solutions Stu Jones 843 618 0170 Specializing in Search Engine Solutions for the Real Estate Industry ------------------------------ From: "Music Is Special" Subject: Clear Channel - Instant Live CDs patent (Long) Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 23:01:07 -0500 In case anybody is interested, the Rolling Stone article below is amazing. I really don't understand how Clear Channel thinks they can stop bands from doing instant cds. I actually went on line and read the Clear Channel patent. If you go to www.uspto.gov and look up patent 6,614,729 you can read the entire thing. Its only about 12 pages long. First of all, Clear Channel did not invent this. Two brothers, David and James Griner invented it and then "sold" it to Clear Channel. The former is an attorney in Austin and the latter is an engineer in the Seattle area. The abstract of the patent says clearly it is an event recording system - it doesn't patent the idea of making CDs "instantly". The guts of it seems to be their system of in essence dividing the audio stream into lots of little segments so that one or more people can simultaneously edit more than one track and then the burners can burn a track at a time as the show is progressing instead of burning the full show only when it is over. I'm not an attorney but it seems to me that anybody who has another way of making "instant" cds will not infringe. Hence, this does seem to be another case of Clear Channel rapaciousness. It wouldn't surprise me if they know darn well they are over-reaching but in essence dare anybody else to be willing to spend as much on lawyers as Clear Channel is. As for me, I think I don't want to buy Clear Channel Instant Live CDs. Ironically, the inventors gave an interview where they said they wanted to do this so that artists could benefit instead of bootleggers. CC doesn't seem much better. Boo hiss! from ROLLING STONE, May 24, 2004: Clear Channel Limits Live CDs Company to block bands from selling instant albums In the past few years, fans leaving some concerts have discovered a souvenir far better than a T-shirt: a live recording of the show they just attended. Bands including the Allman Brothers, moe. and Billy Idol have sold instant concert discs, and the Pixies and the Doors plan to launch similar programs this summer. The recording-and-burning company DiscLive estimated on April 12th that it would gross $500,000 selling live discs this spring alone. But in a move expected to severely limit the industry, Clear Channel Entertainment has bought the patent from the technology's inventors and now claims to own the exclusive right to sell concert CDs after shows. The company, which is the biggest concert promoter in the world, says the patent covers its 130 venues along with every other venue in the country. "We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel executive vice president and the director of Instant Live. "But it is a business, and it's not going to be 'we have the patent, now everybody can use it for free.'" Artists net about ten dollars for every twenty- to twenty-five-dollar concert CD that's sold, no matter which company they use. But with Clear Channel pushing to eliminate competition, many fear there will be less money and fewer opportunities to sell live discs. "It's one more step toward massive control and consolidation of Clear Channel's corporate agenda," says String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba, who feuded with Clear Channel last year after promoters blocked the band from using CD-burning equipment. The Pixies, who are booking a fall reunion tour with several probable Clear Channel venues, say Clear Channel has already told them DiscLive can't burn and sell CDs on-site. "Presuming Clear Channel's service and product are of equal quality, it may be best to feed the dragon rather than draw swords," says Pixies manager Ken Goes. "Still, I'm not fond of doing business with my arm twisted behind my back." Clear Channel doesn't plan to stop Phish, Pearl Jam, the Who or other bands that make live recordings available days after the show. It has also granted one-dollar licenses to a few up-and-coming bands to record and sell instant CDs of their own shows. But Clear Channel executives maintain that they have the right to stop anyone who tries to infringe on the patent. Many say this strategy prevents inventors from jumping into a marketplace and creating further innovation. "We'd like to see this industry opened up to everybody," says Erik Stubblebine, founder and vice president of Hyburn, a Phoenix company that has sold instant CDs for dozens of concerts in the past three years. "They're trying to squeeze us." STEVE KNOPPER (Posted May 24, 2004) ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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