DAT-heads Digest #128
Contents:
Do you hate Clear Channel yet...
Frontline: "When did the Money become more important than the Music?" ("Gary Davis")
clear channel always the winner ("DBC")
phish - Charlie Rose (Matthew Thayer)
Re: DAT-heads Digest #127 ("MattB")
Re: Do you hate Clear Channel yet... (Seth Breidbart)
Correction! OM trio ISO 2003 onstage taper (Richard)
Alice in Chains tapers (BCLedfoot@aol.com)
From: <thatdamnband@hotmail.com>
Subject: Do you hate Clear Channel yet...
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 02:11:58 -0500
Look what they are doing now...
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=6066617&pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single1&rnd=1085518316199&has-player=true
In the past few years, fans leaving some concerts have discovered a souvenir
far better than a T-shirt: a live recording of the show they just attended.
Bands including the Allman Brothers, moe. and Billy Idol have sold instant
concert discs, and the Pixies and the Doors plan to launch similar programs
this summer. The recording-and-burning company DiscLive estimated on April
12th that it would gross $500,000 selling live discs this spring alone.
But in a move expected to severely limit the industry, Clear Channel
Entertainment has bought the patent from the technology's inventors and now
claims to own the exclusive right to sell concert CDs after shows. The
company, which is the biggest concert promoter in the world, says the patent
covers its 130 venues along with every other venue in the country.
"We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel executive
vice president and the director of Instant Live. "But it is a business, and
it's not going to be 'we have the patent, now everybody can use it for
free.'"
Artists net about ten dollars for every twenty- to twenty-five-dollar
concert CD that's sold, no matter which company they use. But with Clear
Channel pushing to eliminate competition, many fear there will be less money
and fewer opportunities to sell live discs. "It's one more step toward
massive control and consolidation of Clear Channel's corporate agenda," says
String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba, who feuded with Clear Channel last
year after promoters blocked the band from using CD-burning equipment.
The Pixies, who are booking a fall reunion tour with several probable Clear
Channel venues, say Clear Channel has already told them DiscLive can't burn
and sell CDs on-site. "Presuming Clear Channel's service and product are of
equal quality, it may be best to feed the dragon rather than draw swords,"
says Pixies manager Ken Goes. "Still, I'm not fond of doing business with my
arm twisted behind my back."
Clear Channel doesn't plan to stop Phish, Pearl Jam, the Who or other bands
that make live recordings available days after the show. It has also granted
one-dollar licenses to a few up-and-coming bands to record and sell instant
CDs of their own shows. But Clear Channel executives maintain that they have
the right to stop anyone who tries to infringe on the patent. Many say this
strategy prevents inventors from jumping into a marketplace and creating
further innovation. "We'd like to see this industry opened up to everybody,"
says Erik Stubblebine, founder and vice president of Hyburn, a Phoenix
company that has sold instant CDs for dozens of concerts in the past three
years. "They're trying to squeeze us."
here's the patent for Live Recordings
http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=6,614,729,&OS=6,614,72
9,&RS=6,614,729,
From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Frontline: "When did the Money become more important than the Music?"
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:38:22 -0700
Frontline on PBS tonight (Thurs).
More Trey/Phish to come on Charlie Rose show, perhaps Thurs or
Fri.
Check local listings for times.
--Gary
From: "DBC" <pfloyd@columbus.rr.com>
Subject: clear channel always the winner
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 05:46:34 -0400
It's hard enough to get into shows without targeted terror bombings and
threats. Then they would be the winners accross the board! That sucks about
your wife though, I just don't want to have to become proficient at beating
metal detectors to get into shows thats all.
DBC
From: Matthew Thayer <mattt317@yahoo.com>
Subject: phish - Charlie Rose
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:49:54 -0700 (PDT)
Trey was on the PBS talk show last night.
One thought he asked himself but didn't answer.... was
..... i don't want become a caracture of the musician
i once was like so many musicians that i have respect
for....
wondering who he was talking about? any idea?
carlos? neil? bob? pat metheney?
most of the old school musicians i respect seem to be
getting better and better ....
seems like a rotten thing to say to me ....
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From: "MattB" <matt@mattb.net>
Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #127
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:40:31 -0600
I use EAC and Nero Express 6 (OEM) on my Win2k3 server and they both work
fine. If you really like Roxio, you'll need to update to the latest version
to make it work. If you are just extracting and buringin audio, use EAC.
It's accurate, free, and works very well.
Matt
> ------------------------------
>
> From: Bill Hance <bhance@snip.net>
> Subject: burning CD-Rs with Windows 2003 ?
> Date: 26 May 2004 12:29:08 -0400
>
>
> I just upgraded my PC which has an M-Audio 2496 sound card and a
> Plextor W1210S CD-R drive, from Windows 2000 Server to Windows 2003
> Server.
>
> The M-Audio 2496 drivers for Windows 2000 seem to work with 2003. So
> far, so good. Windows 2003 recognizes the Plextor. However, for
> starters, my old Easy CD Creator v4 software is no longer compatible.
>
> Is anyone here using Windows 2003 for burning? What software are
> you
> using for audio capture, disc extraction, and CD-R burning?
>
> Thanks in advance for any tips for extracting DAT and CD-R .wav
> files,
> and burning CD-Rs using Windows 2003.
>
> -Bill
>
From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Do you hate Clear Channel yet...
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:45:23 -0400 (EDT)
Their patent is semi-bogus; it only covers cutting the music into lots
of small pieces (~1 minute), assembling tracks, and (I think, though
this may not be part of it) burning TAO in parallel in order to finish
as soon after the concert as possible.
If they try to claim too much, they lose the patent to Prior Art.
Seth
From: Richard <wehideandseek@yahoo.com>
Subject: Correction! OM trio ISO 2003 onstage taper
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT)
Namaste Y'all,
imagine my duncity when i opened today's digest and
saw a request to find a taper that will not exist for
another month ;)
Om Trio is looking for the chap [or chapette] who ran
onstage at LAST year's High Sierra...
muchos garcias
take care
richard
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From: BCLedfoot@aol.com
Subject: Alice in Chains tapers
Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:21:34 EDT
Hello
Looking to contact anyone who personally tape recorded Alice In Chains in
concert. Also interested in low generation, tape source material.
Please e mail me.
Thanks
-Brian
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