DAT-heads Digest #128, Volume #7 Fri, 28 May 04 01:50:00 EDT Contents: Do you hate Clear Channel yet... Frontline: "When did the Money become more important than the Music?" ("Gary Davis") clear channel always the winner ("DBC") phish - Charlie Rose (Matthew Thayer) Re: DAT-heads Digest #127 ("MattB") Re: Do you hate Clear Channel yet... (Seth Breidbart) Correction! OM trio ISO 2003 onstage taper (Richard) Alice in Chains tapers (BCLedfoot@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Subject: Do you hate Clear Channel yet... Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 02:11:58 -0500 Look what they are doing now... http://www.rollingstone.com/news/story?id=6066617&pageid=rs.Home&pageregion=single1&rnd=1085518316199&has-player=true In the past few years, fans leaving some concerts have discovered a souvenir far better than a T-shirt: a live recording of the show they just attended. Bands including the Allman Brothers, moe. and Billy Idol have sold instant concert discs, and the Pixies and the Doors plan to launch similar programs this summer. The recording-and-burning company DiscLive estimated on April 12th that it would gross $500,000 selling live discs this spring alone. But in a move expected to severely limit the industry, Clear Channel Entertainment has bought the patent from the technology's inventors and now claims to own the exclusive right to sell concert CDs after shows. The company, which is the biggest concert promoter in the world, says the patent covers its 130 venues along with every other venue in the country. "We want to be artist-friendly," says Steve Simon, a Clear Channel executive vice president and the director of Instant Live. "But it is a business, and it's not going to be 'we have the patent, now everybody can use it for free.'" Artists net about ten dollars for every twenty- to twenty-five-dollar concert CD that's sold, no matter which company they use. But with Clear Channel pushing to eliminate competition, many fear there will be less money and fewer opportunities to sell live discs. "It's one more step toward massive control and consolidation of Clear Channel's corporate agenda," says String Cheese Incident manager Mike Luba, who feuded with Clear Channel last year after promoters blocked the band from using CD-burning equipment. The Pixies, who are booking a fall reunion tour with several probable Clear Channel venues, say Clear Channel has already told them DiscLive can't burn and sell CDs on-site. "Presuming Clear Channel's service and product are of equal quality, it may be best to feed the dragon rather than draw swords," says Pixies manager Ken Goes. "Still, I'm not fond of doing business with my arm twisted behind my back." Clear Channel doesn't plan to stop Phish, Pearl Jam, the Who or other bands that make live recordings available days after the show. It has also granted one-dollar licenses to a few up-and-coming bands to record and sell instant CDs of their own shows. But Clear Channel executives maintain that they have the right to stop anyone who tries to infringe on the patent. Many say this strategy prevents inventors from jumping into a marketplace and creating further innovation. "We'd like to see this industry opened up to everybody," says Erik Stubblebine, founder and vice president of Hyburn, a Phoenix company that has sold instant CDs for dozens of concerts in the past three years. "They're trying to squeeze us." here's the patent for Live Recordings http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&u=/netahtml/search-bool.html&r=1&f=G&l=50&co1=AND&d=ptxt&s1=6,614,729,&OS=6,614,72 9,&RS=6,614,729, ------------------------------ From: "Gary Davis" Subject: Frontline: "When did the Money become more important than the Music?" Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 00:38:22 -0700 Frontline on PBS tonight (Thurs). More Trey/Phish to come on Charlie Rose show, perhaps Thurs or Fri. Check local listings for times. --Gary ------------------------------ From: "DBC" Subject: clear channel always the winner Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 05:46:34 -0400 It's hard enough to get into shows without targeted terror bombings and threats. Then they would be the winners accross the board! That sucks about your wife though, I just don't want to have to become proficient at beating metal detectors to get into shows thats all. DBC ------------------------------ From: Matthew Thayer Subject: phish - Charlie Rose Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:49:54 -0700 (PDT) Trey was on the PBS talk show last night. One thought he asked himself but didn't answer.... was ..... i don't want become a caracture of the musician i once was like so many musicians that i have respect for.... wondering who he was talking about? any idea? carlos? neil? bob? pat metheney? most of the old school musicians i respect seem to be getting better and better .... seems like a rotten thing to say to me .... __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: "MattB" Subject: Re: DAT-heads Digest #127 Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 11:40:31 -0600 I use EAC and Nero Express 6 (OEM) on my Win2k3 server and they both work fine. If you really like Roxio, you'll need to update to the latest version to make it work. If you are just extracting and buringin audio, use EAC. It's accurate, free, and works very well. Matt > ------------------------------ > > From: Bill Hance > Subject: burning CD-Rs with Windows 2003 ? > Date: 26 May 2004 12:29:08 -0400 > > > I just upgraded my PC which has an M-Audio 2496 sound card and a > Plextor W1210S CD-R drive, from Windows 2000 Server to Windows 2003 > Server. > > The M-Audio 2496 drivers for Windows 2000 seem to work with 2003. So > far, so good. Windows 2003 recognizes the Plextor. However, for > starters, my old Easy CD Creator v4 software is no longer compatible. > > Is anyone here using Windows 2003 for burning? What software are > you > using for audio capture, disc extraction, and CD-R burning? > > Thanks in advance for any tips for extracting DAT and CD-R .wav > files, > and burning CD-Rs using Windows 2003. > > -Bill > ------------------------------ From: Seth Breidbart Subject: Re: Do you hate Clear Channel yet... Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:45:23 -0400 (EDT) Their patent is semi-bogus; it only covers cutting the music into lots of small pieces (~1 minute), assembling tracks, and (I think, though this may not be part of it) burning TAO in parallel in order to finish as soon after the concert as possible. If they try to claim too much, they lose the patent to Prior Art. Seth ------------------------------ From: Richard Subject: Correction! OM trio ISO 2003 onstage taper Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 14:00:50 -0700 (PDT) Namaste Y'all, imagine my duncity when i opened today's digest and saw a request to find a taper that will not exist for another month ;) Om Trio is looking for the chap [or chapette] who ran onstage at LAST year's High Sierra... muchos garcias take care richard ===== GREENHOUSE PRODUCTIONS Matthew Ziegler Richard Alun Davis 906 North Beaver St. Flagstaff, AZ 86001 (928) 556-1492 http://www.greenhouseproductions.net __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! Messenger. http://messenger.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ From: BCLedfoot@aol.com Subject: Alice in Chains tapers Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 20:21:34 EDT Hello Looking to contact anyone who personally tape recorded Alice In Chains in concert. Also interested in low generation, tape source material. Please e mail me. Thanks -Brian ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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