DAT-heads Digest #254, Volume #7 Fri, 1 Oct 04 01:50:01 EDT Contents: RE: ISO Michigan-Area Tapers ("Schofield, William") RE: 2 hour vs. 3 hour tapes ("Paul K.") Kevin Martin live @ Viper Room West Hollywood 10-3-2004 (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Karsten_K=FCpfer=22?=) RE: Question about my recording setup, ("Kenneth Thomas") re: Question about my recording setup, and why drums/bass are distorting... ("Slipkid") Social Distortion (Comnaround@aol.com) ISO: Fleetwood Mac 9/12/04 Tweeter Center (Richard Levy) RE: 2 hour vs. 3 hour tapes ("neal copperman") anyone taping explosions in the sky? (distance) ISO: Velvet Revolver 09-18-2004 ("Schofield, William") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Schofield, William" Subject: RE: ISO Michigan-Area Tapers Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 07:20:34 -0400 Hello there! I'm still trying to track down a taper in the Michigan = area. His name is Mike I believe. I know this is a tough stretch, but I'm = going to give you a list of the source and dates that source taped. I hope you = can help me locate this person.=20 Pearl Jam: Countryman Isomax II > Sony TCD-D7 09-21-1996 09-22-1996 06-27-1998 06-29-1998 In case anyone was wondering, this person taped the following Pearl Jam shows: 09-21-1996 09-22-1996 06-27-1998 06-29-1998 08-18-1998 08-22-1998 08-23-1998 08-18-2000 08-20-2000 08-21-2000 =A0 Thanks! Bill ------------------------------ From: "Paul K." Subject: RE: 2 hour vs. 3 hour tapes Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:01:11 -0400 Neal, I believe the general consensus of this group is that the 3 hr. DATs cause more strain on the recording deck. Most equipment manufacturers advise against using them. With that said, I use them all the time in my Sony M1 and have had relatively no problems. I DO believe they cause the deck to age prematurely, but I've recorded many concerts that were well in excess of 2 hrs. and the convenience of not having to change tapes (and not missing any music) is a worthwhile trade-off for me. If it means that I have to get my deck serviced every couple of years, so be it. If you only record a couple of shows using 3 hr. DATs, I can't imagine it could cause much harm. I will say that I only use the 3 hr. DATs when I have to (which, in my case, is fairly often), but I use the 2 hr. DATs whenever possible. It's a good idea to keep a supply of both. Regarding recording over your masters: While I presume this is for budgetary concerns, this still seems rather short-sighted to me. I'm sure there are (many) people on the list who would be more than happy to trade you brand new tapes in exchange for your masters. If something should happen to any of your discs, you'll know who has the master and you can always retrieve it. Also, who knows what tomorrow's technology holds? There many be a much better storage medium (safer, higher resolution, longer lifespan)/convenience solution in the future, and you may want to transfer your masters again. If you know where to find your masters, this option may be available. Paul ----original message---- From: "neal copperman" Subject: 2 hour vs. 3 hour tapes Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2004 18:20:19 -0000 I've been using the SONY DG60P DAT tapes for a few years now and have been really happy with them. I was about to make another order when my eyes wandered to the adjacent DG90P tapes. A lot of shows I go to are a bit more then 2 hours, but 3 would save me having to swap tapes in the vast majority of shows. Does anyone have reasons why I shouldn't just get the DG90P tapes? I already record over some of the shows I tape after I've transferred them to CD. As I watch the pile of DAT tapes that I'm saving grow, I'm starting to wonder if there is any real need for me to save them, rather then re-use them. I would assume that the DG90P's might have less of a shelf lufe (and re-use life?), but I'm not sure I care that much about that. Thoughts? neal ------------------------------ From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?=22Karsten_K=FCpfer=22?= Subject: Kevin Martin live @ Viper Room West Hollywood 10-3-2004 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:32:30 +0200 (MEST) Hi all, Kevin Martin (Ex-Candlebox) and the Hiwatts do a special rehearsal show for their upcoming european tour.It takes place next sunday @ the Viper Room in West Hollywood. Kevin Martin & the Hewitts @ Viper Room 10.3.2004 West Hollywood, CA European tour rehearsal show. Doors: 10:30pm Kevin is very open to taping, video and audio...even board patches are possible http://www.kmband.com/news_taping.php Contact Kevin (kevin@kmband.com) to sort out the details and arrange the board patch. Would love to get a copy of the show.. Best, Karsten -- GMX ProMail mit bestem Virenschutz http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail +++ Empfehlung der Redaktion +++ Internet Professionell 10/04 +++ ------------------------------ From: "Kenneth Thomas" Subject: RE: Question about my recording setup, Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 08:35:14 -0700 (PDT) I have those mics - are you using a 9V external battery module? You must use an external battery module for loud music. The mics require some power to operate, and without the battery module the mics will pull power from the preamp, and there is not enough power there for the mics to operate like they are designed to in loud environments. you should only use line input for recording loud, amplified music with those mics. ------------------------------ From: "Slipkid" Subject: re: Question about my recording setup, and why drums/bass are distorting... Reply-To: "Slipkid" Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 12:53:10 -0400 erik wrote: > Sonic Studios DSM-6S/M -> SBM-1 (w/ Oade mods) -> D100 > also - as for the settings on the sbm1 & d100: what input's should I be > using (mic/line, -20db?) in my experience using sonics (both /M and /L) for almost 10 years now, i use the MIC setting & the sensitivity at -20dB or i get bass distortion like you described with those settings on my d100 that has the "mod-2" power modification they sound great, & i push the peak levels at loud shows up to about -3 or so ditto for a friend's m1 without the "mod-2" where he uses the PA-6LC 85 hz bass roll-off instead of the "mod-2" deck modification i don't use an sbm1 though so i can't say for sure what settings you should use have you consulted with leonard of sonics? i'm sure he could help you - also check out this page: http://www.sonicstudios.com/pa_x.htm - jon - ------------------------------ From: Comnaround@aol.com Subject: Social Distortion Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:11:45 -0400 Anybody get any of the shows from the current tour? I love the new record. Have lots to trade. Thanks Mark Lynn ------------------------------ From: Richard Levy Subject: ISO: Fleetwood Mac 9/12/04 Tweeter Center Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 17:07:24 -0400 Seeking this show from Camden, NJ or any other dates from this tour. Tons to trade in return. Rich ------------------------------ From: "neal copperman" Subject: RE: 2 hour vs. 3 hour tapes Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 21:39:10 -0000 Thanks for the feedback folks. I'll probably order a mix of tapes. However, I'm thinking the 3 hour ones are certainly more convenient, and it's hard to know in advance that your show will be less then 2 hours. > Regarding recording over your masters: While I presume this is for budgetary > concerns, this still seems rather short-sighted to me. I'm sure there are > (many) people on the list who would be more than happy to trade you brand > new tapes in exchange for your masters. If something should happen to any of > your discs, you'll know who has the master and you can always retrieve it. > Also, who knows what tomorrow's technology holds? Those are all good points. It is a combination of money and time that was making me ask. As I watch the boxes of DAT's pile up, I wonder about the value and expense of saving them. The vast majority of the tapes I have saved are from an unamplified acoustic concert series that I run. The mastering time on these is pretty excessive, so the amount of time it would take to remaster them is pretty daunting. (It's so much harder then editing an amplified show from a big venue!) I also record a lot of shows around town for people and I'm only slightly interested in the results (in any format), so I'm not eager to keep them. But I certainly have some recordings I would hate to lose. And I fully recognize that some of the little artists I tape today might be potentially important artists in the future. I'm doubtful that someone would trade for my masters, since I'm taping mostly obscure and unknown artists. Thanks for the feedback, neal ------------------------------ From: distance Subject: anyone taping explosions in the sky? Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:24:50 -0400 not going to cut/paste the entire date list, but the dates can be found here: http://www.temporaryresidence.com/www/trl_html/tours.htm audio/video/soundboard have been fine in the past. their sets are typically under an hour and the shows are mostly $10 or less, i think. their music has been compared to mogwai and godspeed you! black emperor, for an idea of the sound. hoping to get as much of the tour covered as possible. i don't know of many dates that are covered at this point. ------------------------------ From: "Schofield, William" Subject: ISO: Velvet Revolver 09-18-2004 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 23:49:07 -0400 I'm looking for a copy of the Velvet Revolver 09-18-2004 show at the Roseland Ballroom for the "Rock Through Time" show. If you taped it, or know someone who did, please contact me!! Thanks. 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