DAT-heads Digest #260, Volume #7 Thu, 7 Oct 04 14:50:01 EDT Contents: Re: R1 Editorial (Klay Anderson) re: Edirol R1 (Nick Georges) Edirol R1 / 2GB limit (Jimmy Stiefel) Re: R1 Editorial (Mark Mayhle) taped Marah lately? (Rob Gronotte) FT: Jim Weider Band 10/2/04 (Paul & Jen Beichert) The Music tapers? ("Danny T") ISO: MARILLION / John Wesley NA tour tapers (celticbro) taping tips for Showbox/Seattle and Big Easy/Spokane? ("SHBR \(Steve Brown\)") FS: 2 Orch Tix - Brian Wilson 10/13 NYC (JPas4308@aol.com) Rodney Dangerfield Offer ("Bob S.") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Klay Anderson Subject: Re: R1 Editorial Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:25:39 -0600 The R1 will not take microdrives; too much current (thanks Wayne). As far as sound quality, Edirol is a division of Roland and my take is that if it comes from Roland, it will sound good--they call it a music recorder and make references using fancy audio "quality" words. We have been Roland dealers for decades. Naturally this is subjective, but it is what it is and I know that Roland will do their best. I am sure that someone will come up with a mod to stabilize or change some parameter and more power to them. Remember, some of you started with the D3 for Gods sake. BTW, there is a "pro" model with digital inputs coming down the pipeline, too. Now, this is not marketed as "the end-all be-all solid state recorder of the year for everyone that wants to replace DAT" and I am not saying it is. Remember, it uses lossy compression. I called your attention to it as it may be worth considering as an entry-level device instead of those dreadful minidiscs or as an audio backup. But considering all the attention I am getting from the news and radio media that aren't recording 6 hours of an outdoor concert, this will be a boon to ENG over MD if only for time saved in transferring and editing files. Thanks! -- Regards, Mr. Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com Tel: +801-942-8346 Fax: +801-942-3136 ------------------------------ From: Nick Georges Subject: re: Edirol R1 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:30:30 -0400 before anyone gets themselves in an uproar over this... it has no digital input (or output for the field). If it has the same A/D chip as the UA5, then it will sound pretty nice. I"m also wondering of its "mic in" capability to record a PA. Edirol, if they have taught me anything over the years...it is not to get all too excited about their products. ------------------------------ From: Jimmy Stiefel Subject: Edirol R1 / 2GB limit Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 14:54:12 -0700 WAV files are limited to 2GB due to deficiencies in the file format spec. The Edirol nit is probably limited by this fact. Many programs (such as Sound Forge) use the .wav files as their native format. Go much over 2 hours at 24bit and you are hosed - maybe the software will halt recording, maybe it will continue writing a WAV file you won't be able to open unless you are a digital surgeon. ~js ------------------------------ From: Mark Mayhle Subject: Re: R1 Editorial Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 18:27:18 -0500 (CDT) On Wed, 6 Oct 2004, Klay Anderson wrote: > Remember, some of you started with the D3 for Gods sake. BTW, there is a > "pro" model with digital inputs coming down the pipeline, too. Very good news. Any word on whether it will have sample rates other than 44.1KHz? > Now, this is not marketed as "the end-all be-all solid state recorder of the > year for everyone that wants to replace DAT" and I am not saying it is. > Remember, it uses lossy compression. Presumably not true of its full-resolution 24 bit WAV mode, correct? -- Mark Mayhle mark@mayhle.com ------------------------------ From: Rob Gronotte Subject: taped Marah lately? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 19:28:14 -0400 (EDT) Anyone know how long their sets have been lasting on this tour, or any recent tours? Rob Why don't you come up and surf me sometime? --> http://www.patriot.net/users/rob ------------------------------ From: Paul & Jen Beichert Subject: FT: Jim Weider Band 10/2/04 Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 21:45:17 -0400 Hey Everybody, Recently taped the current lineup of the Jim Weider Band at my local brewery, Keegan Ales in Kingston New York with permission from Jim. They opened for Tony and Peter Levin's local project, Uncle Funk. Here's the lineup: Jim Weider - Guitar, Vocals Sid McGinnis - Guitar Mike Kemp - Bass, Vocals Randy Ciarlante - Drums, Vocals Dan McKinney - Keyboards Mics set up at the front of the stage, Core Sound binaurals with bass roll-off battery box in a simulated binaural array with acoustic baffles on a 5' stand dead center > -20 db mic input > Sony TCD-D8 > Sony DGP Dat @ 44.1khz > Tascam DA-302 > Hosa DRA-501 Coax > Tascam CD-RW700. All in all, a nice recording with good stereo separation. I've also got the Uncle Funk set with the same setup in case anyone's interested. This fits on 1 - 80 minute CD-R. Seeking other good audience or board tapes of Jim Weider or The Band. Thanks, Paul Beichert pnjbeichert@frontiernet.net ------------------------------ From: "Danny T" Subject: The Music tapers? Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 22:02:21 -0500 Can any of you fine folks tape any of these upcoming shows by UK band The Music? They ARE taper friendly and have an official sub-site set up apart from their website where their fans can hook up and trade their shows. http://www.themusic.co.uk The Music Wed 10/06/04 Birmingham, UK Carling Birmingham Academy Thu 10/07/04 London, UK Hammersmith Palais Thu 10/14/04 New York, NY Webster Hall appearing with "102.9 BuzzFest" Sat 10/16/04 Antioch, TN Starwood Amphitheatre appearing with "96.5 THE BUZZ Halloweenie Roast" Sun 10/17/04 Kansas City, MO Uptown Theatre appearing with Velvet Revolver Tue 10/19/04 Tulsa, OK East End Festival Grounds appearing with Incubus Wed 10/27/04 Durham, NH Whittemore Center Arena Thu 10/28/04 Binghamton, NY SUNY / Binghamton Fri 10/29/04 Amherst, NY Alumni Arena / Univ. of Buffalo Sun 10/31/04 Montreal, QC Bell Centre Mon 11/01/04 Hamilton, ON Copps Coliseum Wed 11/03/04 Fort Wayne, IN Allen Co. Mem. Coliseum Thu 11/04/04 East Lansing, MI Breslin Events Center Sat 11/06/04 Rochester, NY Blue Cross Arena Tue 11/09/04 Champaign, IL Assembly Hall Thu 11/11/04 Saint Cloud, MN Halenbeck Hall Fri 11/12/04 De Kalb, IL NIU Convocation Center Sat 11/13/04 Saint Paul, MN Roy Wilkins Auditorium Mon 11/15/04 Grand Forks, ND Ralph Engelstad Arena Thu 11/18/04 Valley Center, KS Kansas Coliseum Fri 11/19/04 Loveland, CO Budweiser Events Center Sun 11/21/04 Bozeman, MT Montana St. University Mon 11/22/04 Spokane, WA Spokane Convention Center Tue 11/23/04 Salem, OR Salem Armory Have a nice day, Danny My trade page: www.sanctifiedpress.com/trade.html EJ only: www.sanctifiedpress.com/ejtrade.com ------------------------------ From: celticbro Subject: ISO: MARILLION / John Wesley NA tour tapers Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 06:17:57 -0700 (PDT) Looking for any tapers on the current Marillion North America tour - Mexico, US, and Canadian dates. I have Chicago and Cincinnati to trade. Also if anybody has taped the opener John Wesley, that would be cool too! Please email me off-list. Got plenty o'goodies to trade. Peace and music, Brian ===== ********************************** G E T T O O N E D I N ! ! ! http://www.geocities.com/celticbro Home of kelleycartoons.com Clumps of cartoons and caricatures and other craziness! ********************************** _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "SHBR \(Steve Brown\)" Subject: taping tips for Showbox/Seattle and Big Easy/Spokane? Date: Thu, 7 Oct 2004 09:19:18 -0700 just wondering about logistics etc.. this would be for taping-allowed shows i.e. stealth not required and stands okay (if there's a good place to put them...). thanks. Steve ------------------------------ From: JPas4308@aol.com Subject: FS: 2 Orch Tix - Brian Wilson 10/13 NYC Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 12:39:41 -0400 18th row right center. Excellent for taping (Carnegie Hall) Bought for $175 face value. Will take $150 OBO. Please reply to jsp@rattetlaw.com ------------------------------ From: "Bob S." Subject: Rodney Dangerfield Offer Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 16:48:28 +0000 *posted for a friend - please respond to mitchell, not me* "On March 10th, 1984, the late Rodney Dangerfield came to DAR Constitution Hall in Washington DC to perform 2 classic shows in front of sold out audiences. Having possession of the master cassette soundboards, I transferred both late & early shows to cdr. In memory of Rodney’s passing, I am offering to do a B&P for either or both shows to anyone on the list who wants a slice of history. If you are interested, please contact me at: mexminute@comcast.net I will return your e-mail with instructions for the B&P. Best Regards, Mitchell" _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? 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