DAT-heads Digest #266, Volume #7 Wed, 13 Oct 04 14:50:01 EDT Contents: Ebay doesn't care about bootleg selling! (Jason Carroll) Ebay loves to make money off bootleg sales (Jason Carroll) Tapers wanted for the upcoming Subhumans fall tour ("carl j santora") Apogee Mini-Me for Sale ("Hall") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Jason Carroll Subject: Ebay doesn't care about bootleg selling! Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:35:10 -0700 (PDT) i think the only method that works is to bid up the items to ridiculous prices and then refuse to pay because the item is a CDR... but this only works to piss off the seller, who will probably still continue to sell them without any problems from ebay... (if you choose this method, you should probably set up a brand new "fake" account... because ebay could take action against you and delete your account for continued non-pay (and you lose all your hard-earned feedback, etc.). other than that, don't expect Ebay to do anything about the bootleg sales unless you are a lawyer from the artists's record label... the reason i say this is because some tool has been selling a Ryan Adams show that I recorded in 2000 for several weeks now... he actually has several Ryan Adams shows for sale at any give time... i reported every single one of his auctions multiple times as "bootleg sales" (it was something like 20 auctions up at once)... I even had a friend of mine also report the exact same 20 items as a violation of their bootleg policy... BUT EBAY HAS DONE NOTHING ABOUT IT! similarly, I found some advance copies of a friend's band's cd on ebay... this was last summer, and the advance copies were floating around about 2 month before the offical album was going to come out... my friend and i (and several other people) emailed ebay to complain that these cds are promo copies, and are actually "property of the record company", etc ... but nothing was done on ebay's part... then we got the record label involved... and when their lawyers contacted ebay, the auctions for those cds came down in a hurry. ================================================ "To much living is no way to die." - Son Volt __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Y! Messenger - Communicate in real time. Download now. http://messenger.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Jason Carroll Subject: Ebay loves to make money off bootleg sales Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 12:54:24 -0700 (PDT) ebay pisses me off so much, i can't spell ;o) make that: ================================================ "Too much living is no way to die." - Son Volt anyway, I wasn't finished... i forgot to mention another thing about the Ryan Adams bootleg seller... two people did bid some of his cd's up to over $300... and then left negative feedback when they won... they said something like "this guy is illegally selling bootleg recordings that can be downloaded for free at www.somewebsite.com... you know what ebay did?... they removed the negative feedback for the seller about 2 days later... probably after he complained that the buyers did not pay... like i said, ebay does not care about bootleg sales... they're still getting their cut... so why rock the boat? anyway, if anyone is bored and wants to report the ebay bootleg seller that i mentioned, then be my guest... i doubt that ebay will do anything... he currently has about 25-30 Ryan Adams shows for sales... his two known id's are: musicalshapes2003 and musicalshapes2004 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Address AutoComplete - You start. We finish. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail ------------------------------ From: "carl j santora" Subject: Tapers wanted for the upcoming Subhumans fall tour Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 18:41:56 -0500 Need tapers for the Subhumans shows listed below. You'll be on the guest list as a single entry (meaning no plus one). You'll be reimbursed for tapes, cdr's and batteries (if required).PLEASE only reply if you're serious about taping and not if your desperate for one more free show to attend. Cheers, Carl www.citizenfish.com October 20 Chicago, Metro 21 Minneapolis, First Avenue 22 Milwaukee, Eagles Club 23 Cincinnati, Top Cats 24 Detroit, Magic Stick 25 Cleveland, Grog Shop 26 Pittsburgh, The World 28 Sayreville, NJ, Starland Ballroom 29 Philadelphia, First Unitarian Church 30 Boston, Axis 31 NY,NY, Knitting Factory November 1 NY,NY, Knitting Factory 2 Baltimore, Otto Bar 3 W. Columbia, SC New Brookland Tavern. 4 Atlanta GA, Masquerade 5 St Petes, FL, State Theater 6 Orlando FL, The Social 7 Ft Lauderdale, FL, The Factory. ------------------------------ From: "Hall" Subject: Apogee Mini-Me for Sale Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2004 21:03:55 -0500 Sold all of my gear from my last post except for the mini-me. It is on a 3-day auction on ebay...starting price 600...buy-it-now 875. Probably will have to copy and paste the link. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3754732754 Let me know if you have any questions. Hall habarriccharter.net --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). 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