DAT-heads Digest #305
Contents:
Anyone try a Blue Bottle Mic? ("fluffhead")
Re:Info for those who believe they carry some right to their work (Keith Bode)
Lead Bellly Tribute Tapers (Dan Gale)
ToTrade: 7-2-03 NeilYoung SOUNDBOARD (JPollQs@aol.com)
RE: Info for those who believe they carry some right to their work ("Bob Griesel")
Looking for Fogerty Boston 11/16/04 ("Jim Kelly")
attention NYC john fahey fans - jack rose on wfmu this sunday at midnight (shane b)
From: "fluffhead" <fluffhead@cox.net>
Subject: Anyone try a Blue Bottle Mic?
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 01:22:16 -0700
Hey all... I just got the opportunity to pick up a matched pair of Blue
Bottle Tube Mics with B2 and B5 caps for an extremely good price (I think).
I knew the original owner and they have been used in a smoke free studio and
have about 500 hours recorded through them. Everything is described in like
new shape (mics, case, shock mounts, cables and power adapters). The deal
seems to be a least 1k-2k+ less than the going EBay prices (and much less
than the www site). I'll just need to drive out to Cali to pick them up at
an estate sale on Monday. Seems like a good deal for a 6 hour drive (each
way).
At this point it just seems too good to be true. Does anyone have any
experience doing AUD recordings with these? I do mostly small clubs
sometimes arenas. These may really be overkill. Other than a few studio
recordings (which sound nice) I can't seem to find any samples from these
mics. Anyone's .02 would help.
The deal is good enough that I am thinking of getting them just to play
around with and then sell after a while. I think I could easily get my
money back. If I decide this is not what I am looking for I would be happy
to pass the info along. You would just need to be able to pick them up in
the LA/Hollywood area on Monday with cash or money order. The estate sale
will hold them but if you don't show there is a charge.
Stay Kind,
Dana
"I'll do the stupid thing first and then you shy people follow."
~~Frank Zappa
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From: Keith Bode <tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re:Info for those who believe they carry some right to their work
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 04:23:21 -0800
>
>
>Just wanted to make people who do believe they have a right
>to recordings they have made, or shows they transferred, or DVD's they
>authored that the policy of Eztree is to not give any weight or
>consideration to the time, energy, and money spent to make those recordings
>possible.
>
>So, if you are like me and you don't like your work being mass distributed,
>take note to stay away from www.easytree.org, or take other (precautionary)
>actions.
>
Jesus, you must be new to the trading-music spreading scene. What you
are saying is common knowledge. Unless you give, (trade, upload, etc.)
1 copy of a show you recorded, transferred etc. to someone with an
agreement not to share the show, expect to see it BT'ed, FTP'ed, and
have abortion editing done on it. I gave a copy of a show I transferred
to a guy with an FTP sever a few years ago with an agreement not to
spread it, because I was working with someone else to find a reported
better lineage of the show, and I didn't want the probable crappier
version of the show out there, when I expected to put a better version
out there in 2 months. The next thing I know there is a "Bertha"
version of the inferior master I transferred, I know because of the
lineage, and it was labeled "NEW", and the "Bertha" guy gave credit to
everyone in town, including the guy who nicknamed "Bertha", but me, and
he pretended he didn't know it was a show I transferred from DAT, even
though the .txt file with the show had my name in it, and what I had
done It's been like that for atleast the 6 or so years I have been
involved with digital music.
I have shows I worked on that I choose not to share, I don't owe anyone
shit, and if I don't want to share it, I don't have to. There are other
shows in circulation I "worked on" because I want them to be, and I know
BT has gotten some of them to over 500 people in a weekend. and there
are shows I have transferred or kept to myself because I don't want the
artists work jacked up by people with shit equipment and lack the
knowledge of how to even duplicate a show in .shn format, without
introducing errors.
If you don't want it messed with don't put it out for the masses. If
you have it, and it's special to you, and you feel proud, yet you don't
want the public spreading it, and adulterating it, I understand, I have
a few shows I feel that way about, and I don't share them. And I don't
tell people I have them. There are so many shows around that people are
not going to be raving mad because someone doesn't want to share a tape
of Springsteen in Boston 25 years ago. (I have no Springsteen).
Keith
From: Dan Gale <dgale@loslobos.org>
Subject: Lead Bellly Tribute Tapers
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 06:42:24 -0800
Did anyone happen to catch the Lead Belly Tribute Show at the Rock &
Roll Hall of Fame on Nov 7th? Please let me know as I'm trying to track
down a copy for the LL archives - the Sbd tape made for us by the house
came out blank :-( Surely somebody jumped on the opportunity to
stealth a Robert Plant show? Please let me know - tons of stuff to
offer in trade.
From: JPollQs@aol.com
Subject: ToTrade: 7-2-03 NeilYoung SOUNDBOARD
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 13:54:56 EST
I'd enjoy trading this excellent quality Neil Young soundboard from the=20
electric Greendale Tour. This is reported to be the actual 7/2/03 soundboard=
master=20
and I believe it is. I've compared the two, and this is not the "thin high=20
endy" audio from the projection screen video feed, which is also beginning t=
o=20
circulate. This recording has far better dynamic range (and a lot more botto=
m=20
end in the mix) and does not suffer from the countless right channel dropout=
s=20
during the second set. It does have the same incomplete =E2=80=9CBe The Rai=
n=E2=80=9D (CD2=20
track 3), but otherwise, it's a near-perfect digital soundboard recording of=
this=20
exceptional concert. Looking to trade for other high quality soundboard=20
recordings of Neil, Miles Davis, Fillmore East & West shows (all bands) and=20=
music=20
of that era in general. Also trying to locate a good copy of the WPLJ broadc=
ast=20
of Incredible String Band at A&R Studios on May 18, 1971. I'll also take a=20
B&P from each list to help get this moving around. Here are the details. S=
tu
NEIL YOUNG & CRAZY HORSE
Tweeter Center on The Waterfront
Camden, New Jersey July 2, 2003
DAT Soundboard Master>DAT>CDR(x2)
CD1(79:14)
SET 1: GREENDALE
1 Falling From Above 8:59 =20
2 monologue #1 2:18 =20
3 Double E 5:41 =20
4 monologue #2 2:19 =20
5 Devil's Sidewalk 5:57 =20
6 monologue #3 1:45 =20
7 Leave The Driving 6:20 =20
8 monologue #4 2:19 =20
9 Carmichael 14:36 =20
10 monologue #5 1:54 =20
11 Bandit 6:26 =20
12 monologue #6 1:38 =20
13 Grandpa's Interview 14:38 =20
14 tuning 0:30 =20
15 Bringin' Down Dinner 3:28 =20
16 ...tuning... 0:26 =20
CD2 (60:39)
1 ...tuning... (overlap) 0:26 =20
2 Sun Green 12:27 =20
3 Be The Rain// 1:42
SET 2:=20
4 Hey Hey My My 8:11
5 Sedan Delivery 7:25 =20
6 Prisoner Of Rock & Roll 4:57 =20
7 Powderfinger 7:23 =20
8 ...encore sounds... 3:38 =20
9 Cinnamon Girl 4:27 =20
10 Fuckin' Up 10:02 =20
From: "Bob Griesel" <sundance@olywa.net>
Subject: RE: Info for those who believe they carry some right to their work
Reply-To: <sundance@olywa.net>
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 2004 13:20:51 -0800
This is a truly amazing perspective. Taping and post production
is a voluntary amateur hobby. It could be compared to a cook-off
where everyone brings their best chili or apple pie to be tasted,
shared, and appreciated among other enthusiasts. If someone
doesn't consider it a privilege to have their work "tasted" by others,
they don't hafta participate.
If the poster below is uptight about sharing, he shouldn't share.
It is ludicrous to put the work out there and then complain about
subsequent sharing. This would be like bringing your chili to a
potluck and then expecting to stand at the table and decide who
gets a bowl and who doesn't.
My recommendation would be for him to work only as a pro, where
"right to their work" is generally protected by the nature of the game.
This makes more sense than trying to impose professional standards
on an amateur hobby.
- Bob (a former audio pro who has spent thousands of hours and
dollars to share the music without any expectations in return)
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"People need celebration in their life. We need magic.
And bliss. . . its a part of the basic human experience. . ."
Jerry Garcia, 1989
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Lajnwand [mailto:blajnwand@verizon.net]
> Sent: Friday, November 19, 2004 1:22 PM
> To: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net
> Subject: Info for those who believe they carry some right to their work
>
>
> I recently requested that www.easytree.org remove a torrent of my work. I
> know that people have differing opinions of how much right one has to
> something they worked on, considering that other people (most notably the
> musicians) donated greatly to the effort. However, this post doesn't
> concern that. Just wanted to make people who do believe they have a right
> to recordings they have made, or shows they transferred, or DVD's they
> authored that the policy of Eztree is to not give any weight or
> consideration to the time, energy, and money spent to make those recordings
> possible.
>
> So, if you are like me and you don't like your work being mass distributed,
> take note to stay away from www.easytree.org, or take other (precautionary)
> actions.
>
>
From: "Jim Kelly" <musicjaime@hotmail.com>
Subject: Looking for Fogerty Boston 11/16/04
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 17:56:08 -0500
Did anyone tape this show or know someone who did? I went, but it was a last
minute decision and therefore I didn't have my rig with me. Would love to
track down a copy to pass on to the friend who brought me to the show
free-of-charge.
Thanks,
Jim
From: shane b <dronelistee@yahoo.co.uk>
Subject: attention NYC john fahey fans - jack rose on wfmu this sunday at midnight
Date: Sat, 20 Nov 2004 15:17:09 -0800 (PST)
is anyone able to record this for me please from FM
source
91.1 fm in the New York City area
90.1 fm in the Hudson Valley
Jack Rose
November 22, 2004
@ midnight (Sunday night / Monday morning)
the set should go for 1hour max but if possible it may
be best to record the whole 3 hour show to your pc so
you dont have to stay up for it if you're not so
inclined.
drop me a line please if anything thinks they could
help me out,
will gladly reciprocate recording anything on bbc UK
or any radio shows i can tune into, bbc always have
great stuff.
thanks for reading this
shane
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