DAT-heads Digest #355

Contents:
  DAT tapes for sale (HO Weber)
  Re: Headphones (Tom McGee)
  ISO: Yes-Jun-04-2004 Stockholm (pstoltz1@tiscali.se)
  re: Headphones (James Ballen)
  re: headphones (aadam jacobs)
  COMP:  Nomad JB3 v. D100 (Brian Skalinder)
  Re: Headphones ("Erick del Valle")
  David Lindley on taping ("Jim Kelly")
  Sonosax M2 users (Adam Smith)
  Re: Headphones (Seth Breidbart)
  Looking for the tapers of the 70s show (Hirokazu Hara)


From: ho.weber1@t-online.de (HO Weber)
Subject: DAT tapes for sale
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 11:47:24 +0100

Hi,
with a bleeding heart I am offering my DAT tape collection up for sale! I 
really need that space! tapes mostly include ABB and Gov't Mule.

You may visit my DAT tapelist at the following site: 
http://people.freenet.de/howeber/TAPELIST.TXT
Here you see all available information about the tapes. The list does not 
include the brand of the tapes!

Rules:
I’m asking 2.50 USD per tape.
Shipping & handling will be between 8 and 12 USD, depending on how many 
tapes you want (these are airmail fares according to German postal 
rates!!!), it can go up to 24.60 € for a BIG package!
I will fulfill all requests on a first come basis! So if you do not get what 
you wanted the tape was requested earlier by someone else! Please do not 
complain about this! And please don’t ask for any specifics of any show – 
remember, I’m offering TAPES, not shows!
All tapes are in excellent condition! They were recorded – as far as I 
know – only once!
Most tapes contain complete shows unless noted otherwise.
Most tapes are Sony or Maxell tapes. Please do NOT ask about a specific 
show!
All tapes have printed DAT jcards, some are handwritten.
Payment: The easiest way is transfer via paypal! Although I have to charge 
you an extra 5 % off the total amount since paypal is charging me for it! 
You may send cash to my private address (see below).
Tapes will be shipped immediately after I received the money. Shipping will 
take about a week.
Hans
______________________________________________________
my list at http://www.angelfire.com/myband2/howeber/TAPELIST.HTM

hans o. weber
karl-pfaff-str. 21
70597 stuttgart
germany 




From: Tom McGee <aos@dayday.org>
Subject: Re: Headphones
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:17:40 -0500


Adam sez:

>Can anyone recommend a pair of headphones for live mixing on location?
>Ideally something that will provide some type of isolation from the
>source sound. I've heard of the etymotics used in conjunction with a
>hearing protection headset but have never had any experience with this.

I use the Etymotic ER-4P connected to an iPod when I run the 
lawnmower. This makes the lawnmower quiet enough to be effectively 
silent. Etymotic rates the isolation at 33db with plastic tips and 
40db with foam tips.  If you use shooter style headphones, like from 
David Clark, the isolation they provide will be additive. This type 
of headphone seals a lot better than the noise-cancelling consumer 
models from Bose and Sony.

The main problem with trying to do what you're doing is that you 
can't isolate your body from the sound pressure waves in the room 
you're located in. With kilowatt bass amps pummeling your gut, it 
makes a difference as to what you think you're hearing. In other 
words, there's prolly gonna be too much bass before you even feed a 
signal to the headphones. Still, it's better than going deaf trying 
to get a mix in a high SPL environment.




From: pstoltz1@tiscali.se
Subject: ISO: Yes-Jun-04-2004 Stockholm
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 15:34:58 +0100

Was wondering if anyone could help me out finding a copy of
this show:
Yes - Jun-04-2004 - Stockholm, Sweden @ Globen

Thanks
-Per






From: James Ballen <jamosb78@yahoo.com>
Subject: re: Headphones
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 08:07:23 -0800 (PST)

I have had a pair of Etymotics for almost 2 years now, and can't say 
enough great things about them....I've done everything from recording 
live shows to semi-studio recording sessions to listening to my PJB-100

mp3 player with them.  They performed brilliantly in all situations.  
I've always thought they provided plenty of isolation when recording in

loud situations, and the sound reproduction is excellent.  

They make a train, plane, or bus ride a much more pleasant experience!

Sorry I can't comment on any of the noise-cancelling headphone models.

Cheers,
James




From: aadam jacobs <aadamjacobs@yahoo.com>
Subject: re: headphones
Date: Sun, 9 Jan 2005 09:59:58 -0800 (PST)


Adam asked:
> 
> > Can anyone recommend a pair of headphones for live
> mixing on
> > location?  Ideally something that will provide
> some type of
> > isolation from the source sound. I've heard of the
> etymotics used in
> > conjunction with a hearing protection headset but
> have never had any
> > experience with this.
> 
Seth replied:
> Etymotics by themselves provide up to 20dB of
> isolation.  I've never
> tried them under hearing protection headsets; I'd
> expect that noise
> cancelling headphones over them would be better.
> 
First off, noise-cancelling headphones are not useful
in any live setting. The etymotics are good, but I
like the shures better, and the E3Cs are cheaper.

Recording several shows a week, sometimes right in
front of the PA, I've found that the E3Cs work
wonderfully. I can even use them for accurate mic/line
mixing.

Aadam


                
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From: Brian Skalinder <bskalinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: COMP:  Nomad JB3 v. D100
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 13:24:04 -0500

I'm hosting a line-in and ADC blind comparison of the Nomad JB3 v. 
D100.  The JB3 is already well proven as a recorder when fed a digital
signal, but many doubt it's line-in and ADC capabilities.  This comp should 
give people a good idea how the JB3 sounds relative to the D100 (IMO pretty 
darn good).  You can find the comparison on www.easytree.org:

Tracker entry:
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?returnto=%2Faccount-cp.php&id=21827

Torrent link:
http://www.easytree.org/download.php/21827/adc.jb3.d100.flac16.torrent

Contact me directly with a guess as to which source is which and I'll 
identify the sources for you:  bskalinder[at]yahoo[dot]com.

Regards,

Brian Skalinder
bskalinder[at]yahoo[dot]com 




From: "Erick del Valle" <erick_del_valle@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Headphones
Reply-To: erickdelvalle@gmail.com
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:09:09 -0300


Hi
Maybe could be an option this:

http://www.remoteaudio.com/hn7506.htm

those are made with sony 7506 drivers and aviation headsets.

Design by Glen Trew, from trewaudio.com


Erick del Valle
Sonido directo
Santiago de Chile
569-3193735

_________________________________________________________________
MSN Amor: busca tu ½ naranja http://latam.msn.com/amor/




From: "Jim Kelly" <musicjaime@hotmail.com>
Subject: David Lindley on taping
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 17:25:41 -0500


If you have not seen this yet, its worth a read, for a laugh if nothing 
more. The man has clearly lost his mind. Too many years of polyester shirts, 
I think.

He did get one thing right though. Sometimes half the fun of stealth taping 
is getting away with it. :-)


http://www.davidlindley.com/news9.html

Jim





From: Adam Smith <adaml@lanset.com>
Subject: Sonosax M2 users
Date: Sun, 09 Jan 2005 18:29:13 -0800

I've experienced mixed results from using alkaline 9v batteries. I've 
never used the Nimh but hear they are not very reliable either. I 
recently wrote to Sonosax about using an external battery pack for 
powering the M2. Their reply was any DC source between 12-18 volts is 
fine. Your run time using a 7 amp 12V would be over 85 hours. This is 
based on the 2mA microphone draw. You can purchase a right angle Sonosax 
plug and cord for about $4 delivered. Using a 2-3 amp battery would 
still be relatively stealth for folks doing that. you won't have to swap 
out 9V between sets, worry about them dying on you and it contributes 
fewer batteries to your neighborhood landfill.
Adam




From: Seth Breidbart <sethb@panix.com>
Subject: Re: Headphones
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 00:15:10 -0500 (EST)

Tom McGee <aos@dayday.org> wrote:

> Etymotic rates the isolation at 33db with plastic tips and 
> 40db with foam tips.

When did that happen?  (The isolation with the custom-made earphones
is only about 20dB.)  I haven't even seen standalone foam earplugs
rated at 40dB.

> If you use shooter style headphones, like from 
> David Clark, the isolation they provide will be additive.

Not necessarily.  I can (in theory) describe a pair of 10dB earplugs
and 10dB earphones that together provide 10dB, or a different 10dB
earphone that makes the combination over 100dB.  It depends on how the
frequency attenuation curves match up.

> This type of headphone seals a lot better than the noise-cancelling
> consumer models from Bose and Sony.

Yes, it does; but it doesn't have the active noise-cancellation.

Seth



From: Hirokazu Hara <hara00@tip.ne.jp>
Subject: Looking for the tapers of the 70s show
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 14:43:18 +0900

   I'm looking for the tapers of the below 70s shows:

   Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin, Rolling Stones, Neil Young, Eric Clapton,
   Jeff Beck, Paul McCartney & Wings, Bob Dylan, Elvis Costello, Who,
   Frank Zappa, Beach Boys, CSNY, Eagles, George Harrison, Jesse Colin
   Band and more.....

   My friend got the Pink Floyd: Sapporo 3/13/72 (missing "Echoes"), Jeff
   Beck: Sapporo 12/14/80 (missing last part), Zep: Tokyo 9/23/71 ("Tales
   Of Storms" CD source) direct from the original taper a long time ago
   (about 13-14 years ago).

   The tape gens are: Audience Reel Master > My friend DAT.

   Now, I'm borrowing his 3 DATs. If anyone taped the above shows, and
   interested in these 3 shows, please reply privately.

   Hiro



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