DAT-heads Digest #357
Contents:
Kevn Kinney this Sunday 1/16 at Fez (NYC) (Jason Carroll)
Re: COMP: Nomad JB3 v. D100 (Brian Skalinder)
Re: Headphones ("Sherm Clow")
Etymotic headphone recommendation (Jeffrey Chard)
David Lindley (Phil Thenstedt)
Re: headphones (aadam jacobs)
Lindley's rant ("SHBR \(Steve Brown\)")
COMP: Grace Design Lunatec V3 v. Oade warm-mod Edirol UA5 (Brian Skalinder)
Re: Headphones (Eugene Hu)
Re:Was David Lindley Bootleggers McCabes 2004 news, now Jerry's smack (Keith Bode)
Re: David Lindley Bootleggers McCabes 2004 news (Dat Head)
RE: COMP: Nomad JB3 v. D100 ("Tonton Blino")
Re: Headphones ("Dave & Em")
From: Jason Carroll <jc2689@yahoo.com>
Subject: Kevn Kinney this Sunday 1/16 at Fez (NYC)
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 06:15:48 -0800 (PST)
sort of a last minute gig... if anyone's ever
seen Kevn Kinney or Drivin 'n' Cryin, you kow
that they are very taper friendly...
www.feznyc.com
Fez (Under Time Cafe)
Sunday, January 16
Doors open at 8:00; Cover is $10.
Kevn Kinney (of Drivin' n' Cryin)
with Carla Rhodes
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From: Brian Skalinder <bskalinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: COMP: Nomad JB3 v. D100
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:57:56 -0500
Bruno, that's the pits they wouldn't send back your JB3 - definitely
disappointing. FWIW, you could sell your new device and pick up a JB3 on
EBay. And for anyone else who encounters HD problems, the HDs are pretty
easily replaced - check nomadness.net for instructions on the procedure.
At 03:50 AM 1/11/2005, you wrote:
>From: Tonton Blino <tontonblino@yahoo.fr>
>Subject: Re: COMP: Nomad JB3 v. D100
>Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 10:29:42 +0100 (CET)
>
>However it seems Creative do not support the
>JB3 anymore !
[snip]
>I won 20Gb, but lost the ability to record audio...
>I'm really disapointed...
From: "Sherm Clow" <sclow@utah.gov>
Subject: Re: Headphones
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:11:59 -0700
I have the Senn HD 280s.... great cans and more comfortable for editiing
and listening than the Etymotics. However, for recording, the Etymotics
with a set of construction site ear protectors is the only way to go.
From: Jeffrey Chard <jachard@adelphia.net>
Subject: Etymotic headphone recommendation
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 10:19:35 -0500
've had the Etymotic ER-4 P for several years and love them. I
especially recommend custom ear molds which I found out about at the
headroom.headphone.com website. I went to an audiologist in my area,
from a list that Etymotic has, and had wax impressions taken of my
ears--like you would get for hearing aids. They send the impressions to
Etymotic, who make the inserts that fit on the tips of their
headphones. The whole process cost me $100.00. So much more comfortable
than the tips that come with the headphones. I don't think I'd go with
in-ear if I didn't have the custom molds. Isolation is fantastic too.
If I was buying new now, I'd look at the Etymotic ER6i model for under
$150. You can use custom molds with this one too; looks like they
require an adapter of some kind. Don't know if this would make them
bulky; I'm sure the Headroom people can tell you. Let me also
mention--Etymotic customer service is great, at least in my experience.
They totally replaced my ER-4P's after three years, for $130.00
I'll never have a $10,000 audio system. These Etymotics with the custom
molds are probably the best listening experience I'll ever own.
Regards, Jeff Chard
From: Phil Thenstedt <phil.thenstedt@zones.com>
Subject: David Lindley
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:37:19 -0800
This guy is off his rocker. The fact that someone is attempting to sell a
bootleg on ebay is a sign that there is a demand for his music. He should be
flattered people would want to record him, not scared!
If you're a musician in demand someone somewhere is going to record you, its
a fact of life for musicians today. Get over it already!
He states... "There are all the new tunes that I worked up to go on the
road, so any recording that I make of these songs will have already been
heard and will come as no surprise to the people who have bought this
bootleg, and when I come out with my C.D. people will already have heard the
tunes."
Hrmmm...well if he were worried about people hearing these songs, why is he
playing them on the road? In front of the same people he doesn't want to
hear them?
I can't believe he would be so affected over the thought that someone might
be taping him. Does he freak out when he sees microphones in the studio or
does he only freak out when he doesn't see microphones? Perhaps he should
practice a bit so he doesn't have to worry about being such a bad live
performer. And most of all, he should lay off the drugs and be a little less
paranoid.
From: aadam jacobs <aadamjacobs@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: headphones
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 08:47:33 -0800 (PST)
Adam wrote:
>
> Has anyone compared
> these 3 or any combination?
I've compared the Etymotic ER-4 & Shure E3 and prefer
the Shures, as I've previously written.
> My
> guess would be ER6.
Avoid er6 for live application. They just didn't give
me what I needed. They distorted with high input
levels, and were clumsy.
Aadam
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From: "SHBR \(Steve Brown\)" <SHBR@novozymes.com>
Subject: Lindley's rant
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 09:57:19 -0800
Not to specifically disagree with you Randy, but I think much of what he
posted is a load of self-serving crap. I'm not gonna list everything,
but I would say characterizing all stealth tapers as bootleggers is
probably his biggest mistake.
Steve
>From: Randy Vogel <randy@funfolks.net>
Subject: re: david lindley news
Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 15:21:31 -0800
Hmmn.
I thought David's post (http://www.davidlindley.com/news9.html) was darn
reasonable, myself.
What's so unreasonable about abiding by the man's wishes?
It's not necessary to tape everything, is it?
-rand0m<
From: Brian Skalinder <bskalinder@yahoo.com>
Subject: COMP: Grace Design Lunatec V3 v. Oade warm-mod Edirol UA5
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 12:21:40 -0500
Re-seeded on by request on another forum, so thought I'd post it here as well:
tracker
http://www.easytree.org
tracker entry
http://www.easytree.org/torrents-details.php?returnto=%2Faccount-cp.php&id=22227
.torrent file
http://www.easytree.org/download.php/22227/moe2003-12-04.comp.v3.wmod-ua5.flac16.torrent
Contact me directly at bskalinder[at]yahoo[dot]com for info on which source
is which.
From: Eugene Hu <eugene@overture.com>
Subject: Re: Headphones
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 11:37:12 -0800
> Thanks to all that replied to my headphone inquiry. I've narrowed it
> down to the Etymotic ER-4, Shure E3 or Sennheiser HD-280 pro. The
> Sennheisers are closed cup over the ear that claim 32 db's of isolation.
> The shure's are in ear similar to the Etymotics. Has anyone compared
> these 3 or any combination? The Sennheisers are the only ones I could
> find stocked locally so comparing the three could be tough. Guitar
> Center stocks some Hearos that look very similar and I would guess are
> made by Etymotic but I wouldnt know the model to compare them to. My
> guess would be ER6. I'm interested more in isolation than noise
> cancellation. I'm not sure how they would perform when the noise is a
> similar signal to what you are sending the headphone.
> thanks again, Adam
I have both the ER-4B's and the HD-280 pro. The ER-4's have a lot more
isolation and you can wear shooting muffs over them for more isolation
as several others have pointed out. However, they don't isolate bone
conduction so you'll still bass leakage, but there's really nothing you
can do about that. I usually use the HD-280s or my beater HD-25SP's
in the field in case someone else needs them or just wants a listen.
I'm not about to share ER-4's, or anything else I stick inside my ear.
As far as noise cancellation, they shouldn't have a problem with a noise
signal similar to the desired signal. The problem I've noticed with the
Bose phones is that they're really good at cancelling steady noises, like
the hum of A/C or a jet engine, but really don't cancel voices and such.
There may be noise cancelling phones out there that are better for
cancelling out voices and music, but I haven't seen any.
-Eugene
who has too many headphones
From: Keith Bode <Tunakebo@verizon.net>
Subject: Re:Was David Lindley Bootleggers McCabes 2004 news, now Jerry's smack
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 13:45:52 -0800
>
>
>here me NOW.
>
>We did not kill Jery Garcia, a battle with highly
>addictive drugs did.... and he tried hard as hell to
>make it stop.
>
>You, David Lindley, should take a look at
>yourself..... and reconsider, before you break down,
>
Jerry was an addict. Jerry's death was not a result of his addiction.
If you think Heroin killed Jerry, or anyone else who did not die of an
OD, you don't know about heroin, and a little research may help educate
you, and stop you from inserting a foot in your mouth. I am not making
any assumptions about the writer of the above statement, other than they
are extremely misinformed. Heroin addicts die of many diseases,
including AIDS and Hepatitis, and it's complications. They do not die
from the drug, unless they OD, which causes them to stop breathing.
My statements are not based on any BS news report. They are the
statements of a RN who did many days of onging education about opiates
and pain management.
Now Here (Hear) me!!
Jerry may have been in a drug rehab when ge died, but at most Detoxing
would be a contributing factor to his Cardiac Arrest, but by no means
were the drugs any of the primary factors in his death. As I recall
Cardiac Arrest, or an MI (heart attack in non-medical terms, Myocardial
Infarction in medical terms) was the cause of Jerry's death. If his
death was due to a Heroin OD, he would have stopped breathing before his
heart stopped, and that would easily be found on autopsy. Also his blood
pathology report would have shown his drug levels. He was finishing his
Detoxification when he died, and hadn't used dope in several days.
Heroin has 2 good qualities about it, First, heroin is one of the least
toxic drugs ever made, The drug is almost free of pathological effects
on body tissue, It is less toxic to our body than almost everything in
the pharmacy, Heroin is also an excellent analgesic, and is almot the
same as Morphine, as it's derived from the same plant. I have read that
heroin is used in other western countries for severe pain, when morphine
is not as effectice,
If a person believes snack is what killed Jerry, it's wrong, and I can't
believe anyone would pontificare to know drugs killed him. Making a
statement like that shows how clueless about the mans health history
the writer is. Prior to 1992, no one knew Jerry was diabetic, and we
found out when he went into a diabetic coma.
In 1992 Jerry did a summer tour with the JGB crew. I was at the 2nd to
last show of the tour. He did not look well. The next nights show was
about 75 miles from the show I saw in Irvine Meadows, in San Diego.
After the San Diego show, Jerry was hospitalized, and The GD's fall tour
was canceeled, The news report were Jerry had trouble breathing, hr hsd
dsmsged his lungs from smoking. and his heart was enlarged. Being a RN,
I was quickly put together what the diagnosis were. Jerry had COPD, or
emphysema and CHF, or congestive heart faolure. That is what killed
him, along with his weight, and complications of Diabetes. Hs rumored
long habit of smoking 2 packs of Pall Malls a day would absolutely
damage the lungs, blood vessels, and even screw up his gut. Jerry was a
walking time bomb with all these problems. I realized in 92 Jerry was
not going to live long, somehow watching him, and listening to him, I
came to believe that. After cancelling the fall tour, I decided I ought
to see as many shows as I could, because I felt there was a limit to how
many more shows there would be. I was also in a career change mode, and
only a coupe of years into a new career, so that would limit me to not
traveling much His heroin habit was one of the least damaging parts of
his life. Unless a heroin user OD's, the Smack is pretty benign to a
persons health, and that is why it is used as a regular medication in
many places.
What killed Jerry was his weigt and lack of concientous control of his
diabetes. Also, Jerry's smoking habit, that I read was supposed to be 2
packs of Pall Mall's a day for decades. Jerry died fron Chili Dogs more
than drugs.
Sorry to be so long winded, but comments like the one I replied to are
so ludicrous and misinformed, I feel I need to set the record straight.
Heroin addicts do get many diseases from sharing or reusing syringes,
expecially ones that haven't been sterilized. None of Jerry's health
problems were caused by these activities.
Keith Bode
From: Dat Head <dathead2@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: David Lindley Bootleggers McCabes 2004 news
Reply-To: Dat Head <dathead2@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 17:01:28 -0500
> Who the heck is David Lindley?
some guy who made some of the greatest music to ever grace the earth with
jackson browne in the early 70's, then as part of the fabulous "cold
noses" (crosby & nash's
backing band) and then went on to where he is today,
wallowing in his own perceived glory (aka "the legend in his own mind"
syndrome) as a marginal solo musician (great instrumentalist, shame
about the voice).
judging by the article posted this week http://www.davidlindley.com/news9.html
he has borderline paranoia ("Sometimes it's an effort to ignore them
and I try to spot them, figure out which person has the recording
equipment and is pretending not to be recording. ")
don't know why anybody would want to even go see him anymore let alone
go to the trouble of taping his tired, repetitive shows. last time he
played here it was at a coffee house in virginia (it is a nice one
though, not trying to
slam them), not because he wanted
to, but because that is the only size venue in the entire washington DC
area that he can.
p.s. another point in the article that i'ld love to hear about first
hand is that ry cooder no longer tours because he was "taped to death."
ry is yet again another great musician, who sadly like a lot of the
musicians we all love, just isn't very popular any more.
here is a piece of the classic drivel:
Some bands don't care about taping and promote it, bands like Leftover
Salmon. They just broke up. Those guys were drained dry and are going
to need some time to recover. What a shame. Taped to death. Maybe it
was because all their concerts were available and the material got old
because everyone heard it so much. The Greatful Dead? The Dead were
unique, taping or not. But Jerry died. That man was drained when he
left. He had nothing left. We used him all up until he died from it,
sucking all the life energy from him and we wonder why. More, we
needed more from him, more than he had to give but there sure were a
lot of concert tapes. So that raises the problem and the question;
does taping drain the musician? Are vast amounts of psychic energy
sucked out of the musician during illegal taping? It's an interesting
concept if anything else.
jerry's quote on letterman from way back early 80's summed it all up:
dave: so, you allow taping at your concerts?
jerry: yea, once we're done with it they can have it!
i'm not saying it isn't the right of artists to not want to be taped,
but lindley's psychosis
is clearly beyond all understanding.
From: "Tonton Blino" <tontonblino@yahoo.fr>
Subject: RE: COMP: Nomad JB3 v. D100
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 23:37:55 +0100
> Bruno, that's the pits they wouldn't send back your JB3 - definitely
> disappointing. FWIW, you could sell your new device and pick up a JB3 on
> EBay. And for anyone else who encounters HD problems, the HDs are pretty
> easily replaced - check nomadness.net for instructions on the procedure.
Thanks Brian for the link, I had seen that before, very useful, although
I'll wait to fill the 60Gb before formatting a new disk...
Now someone from the list described his taping experience with the Archos
Gmini400 20Gb which can record WAV (my boss has one, I had validated this
was ok), and this hard disk seems very good already, and... at least
supported ! The person had a D100 before and found out, although with yet
just a few tests, that the results were very good... To be added to the
advantage, is the fact the item is indeed very small and does not look like
a usual recording device DAT or MD or whatever... (+ other advantages).
I have been adviced to request my money back... I'm wondering whether I'll
do that... What an hassle !
Thanks for your emails folks,
Bruno
From: "Dave & Em" <phisher72@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Headphones
Date: Tue, 11 Jan 2005 18:31:42 -0500
You might also want to check out the Sony Fontopia series headphones such as
the MDR-EX51LP, which I have a pair of. They do an excellent job of
blocking out outside sound by simply fitting like a pair of earplugs, they
come with a set of three different rubber earpieces to choose from to fit
all size ears. They are less expensive than the Shure version. The main
problem I have had with using other headphones on location, is that some do
not offer a flat frequency response, but add bass, resulting in an
inaccurate feedback.
D
>From: Adam Smith <adaml@lanset.com>
>Subject: Headphones
>Date: Mon, 10 Jan 2005 12:14:33 -0800
>
>Thanks to all that replied to my headphone inquiry. I've narrowed it
>down to the Etymotic ER-4, Shure E3 or Sennheiser HD-280 pro. The
>Sennheisers are closed cup over the ear that claim 32 db's of isolation.
>The shure's are in ear similar to the Etymotics. Has anyone compared
>these 3 or any combination? The Sennheisers are the only ones I could
>find stocked locally so comparing the three could be tough. Guitar
>Center stocks some Hearos that look very similar and I would guess are
>made by Etymotic but I wouldnt know the model to compare them to. My
>guess would be ER6. I'm interested more in isolation than noise
>cancellation. I'm not sure how they would perform when the noise is a
>similar signal to what you are sending the headphone.
>thanks again, Adam
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