DAT-heads Digest #367, Volume #7 Fri, 21 Jan 05 11:50:01 EST Contents: long lost trader... ("Chris & Melany") MPG-->DVD AVI-->DVD ("riangie3") running the SBM with less than 6volts (acffh) Re: Edirol R1 (Klay Anderson) FS: Audio Technica AT853's ("Sanjay M. Suchak") Re: request for .mpg help please (Gary Doe) Fostex D5 for sale (Kurt Vogel) HHB Portadat repairs (Kayvon Bahramian) FS: Out of alignment D7 $60 + RMR-D3 $25 Hosa Line Transformers $20 ("Andrew .") Re: Help with 24 bit mastering ("American-Digital") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Chris & Melany" Subject: long lost trader... Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:07:40 -0500 hello folks...looking for a long lost (pre net) trader named john payne. i think he lived in the flint, michigan area, and had a couple of shows that i never got a chance to trade for. if you know of him, please help a brother out... chris r. milan mi -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.7.1 - Release Date: 1/19/2005 ------------------------------ From: "riangie3" Subject: MPG-->DVD AVI-->DVD Reply-To: "riangie3" Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:15:47 -0500 (Eastern Standard Time) OK.. I know this isn't very "dat" related but I know you all are very tech savvy and I need some help ;) I download some *goodies* movies, videos, TV shows and I want to watch them on my dvd player.. They are MPGS and AVIS.. I try to convert them, one time I made an IMG file then I try to burn them and I get no love.. What's the word.. How do I do this? Help me out and I will reward you with a show of your choice from my collection. Thanks! Angel ------------------------------ From: acffh Subject: running the SBM with less than 6volts Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:17:59 -0600 I have used a 4.5 volt "wall wart" that came with the M1 or D100 to power the SBM in a pinch. The Sony wart that I have for the SBM (Sony part #AC-E60HG ) is 6V 700mA, and has green printing on a white label- the 4.5 volt units for the D100 and M1 are the Sony part #AC-E45HG and have a blue tag. when you use the 4.5 volt supply, only 3 of the 4 power bars light up on the SBM, but I figure that's ok, they are just a primitive volt meter, and when I run the unit off alkaline cells, I run it down past 2 bars into one bar and it is not a problem. For that matter I also have a Marantz PMD-430 cassette deck that comes with a 4.5 volt adaptor, and I have used it with a 6V adaptor, I was told that the extra juice dissipates as heat, so that's the side effect of slightly overpowering the DC input. watch that heat. . . ok in winter maybe, but could bite ya in hot weather. don't wanna melt anything!!! hope that might help. -t From: "terrapin" Subject: power help Date: Wed, 19 Jan 2005 12:42:29 -0500 I'm off on a trip and would like to cut back any excess gear if possible. I'll be taping a number of shows using various equipment, among them an SBM and a sharp md702 (no - the sbm will not be feeding the md!). I know there are a lot of knowledgable folks on power usage on this list and wonder if anyone can answer this one. The md requires 5v at 800ma and the sbm requires 6v at 800ma. As I'd like to only take one wall wort, would I fry the md by using the 6v charger, or would the sbm be damaged by using the 5v charger? many thanks ------------------------------ From: Klay Anderson Subject: Re: Edirol R1 Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 12:38:20 -0700 Onno J.R. Bakker" Subject: Edirol R1 Asked: > Has anyone ever worked with the Edirol R1 ? > If so, how is it? I've had one here on the bench for over a month; used it quite a bit on different jobs. Love it. What would you like to know? Thanks! -- Regards, Mr. Klay Anderson, D.A.,Q.B.E. Klay Anderson Audio, Inc. http://www.klay.com Tel: +801-942-8346 Fax: +801-942-3136 ------------------------------ From: "Sanjay M. Suchak" Subject: FS: Audio Technica AT853's Reply-To: sms21@geneseo.edu Date: Thu, 20 Jan 2005 18:15:09 -0500 (EST) For Sale, A Pair of Audio Technica AT 853's with mini xlr plugs and samson pm4 adaptors. These have the Card Capsule. Ready to go into your favorite preamp. These are the white models, but the first 3 feet of cable by the body are colored black and since the bodies are usually concealed with windscreens under my hat or shirt I have never had a problem. I am looking for $200 + shipping, I am in Spain however I will cover some of the shipping to the US so it is not much more expensive than shipping in the US. Thanks! Sanjay sms21@geneseo.edu ------------------------------ From: Gary Doe Subject: Re: request for .mpg help please Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 00:59:29 -0800 (PST) > > From: shane b > > Subject: Re: request for .mpg help please > > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 14:39:16 -0800 (PST) > > > > hey wayne thanks for the info i can grab stuff > like that but what i'm > > after is stuff that you cant right click on like > this for example > > http://www.kcrw.com/show/mb > > how would i download the Inara George footage for > > example? > > thanks > > shane Do a search for StreamBox VCR. You will need to download the hacked version. This software will save the actual streams for you into a file, bypassing the "output from soundcard" method that will undoubtedly add noise to the signal. One very useful feature of Streambox if you are still using a modem as opposed to broadband/ADSL is that it will allow you to resume downloads. Hope this helps. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - 250MB free storage. Do more. Manage less. http://info.mail.yahoo.com/mail_250 ------------------------------ From: Kurt Vogel Subject: Fostex D5 for sale Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 05:36:00 -0800 (PST) Put my trusty D5 on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=41478&item=3776639814&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW Present bid is $56, bidding ends Sunday night. thanks! Kurt ------------------------------ From: Kayvon Bahramian Subject: HHB Portadat repairs Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 07:06:13 -0800 (PST) Does anyone have an opinion on who is the best Portadat repair person in the country? If not a specific person, then an authorized repair center you like? We (a small radio documentary orginization) have been sending ours to ProDigital, with disappointing results. Any advice would be appreciated. Kayvon __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: "Andrew ." Subject: FS: Out of alignment D7 $60 + RMR-D3 $25 Hosa Line Transformers $20 Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:11:31 +0000 Hey clearing out some more stuff I have no use for. TCD D7 I would estimate the hours on the heads to be around 300 however the deck took a fall during the summer and now eats any tape you put in. I was told this is most likely because the heads are out of alignment. The battery door broke off in the fall and has been lost but the battery sled is still there. No pleather case. photos availible on request. I believe this unit is fixable but I'm really not sure. $60 obo and we can split the shipping cost. I also have a Sony RMR-D3 in unknown condition, this is the european model (i'm in canada) so I have no way to test this. It is without remote and may or may not work. $25 obo + shipping (worst case you have a 7pin head on the end) Hosa Line Transformers might as well add these too. I used these when I taped SBM1>D7 with no pre. XLR F > 1/4" Work fine but have a bit of tape residue on them. $20 shipped. Paypal payments only please. I may also be selling my dpa 4061's soon which are in perfect shape.. thanks for the space ------------------------------ From: "American-Digital" Subject: Re: Help with 24 bit mastering Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:45:09 -0500 OK, so I am a bandwidth muncher. I'll pay the fine, I've done the crime. See below. Very interesting discussion on the 24 bit mixdown of two 16/44 source versus performing the same mixdown and saving as a 16/44 source (i.e. SBD + AUD matrix mix). Thanks for all the input, advice and free education. I have some people looking into the actual sonic difference btwn the two with better gear to make a better determination if possible. At the end of the day I think we will agree that we have saved an excellent archive copy, we will be in step with the evolution of higher resolution music and will have a format that offers other enjoyable perks (besides better sound) like the complete show on a single disc and an interactive menu. I think will also agree that the sonic difference is very subtle and rock-n-roll ears will find difficult in determining which source is which if subjected to a Coke vs. Pepsi "blind taste test". 5.1 DTS-Audio-CD vs. 5.1 DVD-A I touched on this new topic and would enjoy exploring these questions equally. As you'all know I make many 5.1 DTS-Audio-CDs. Besides being a gigantic fan of these myself at this point I have a small but growing legion of fans that also seem to think these are the cat's meow in recreating a concert on the home stereo. I receive lots of great feedback from folks and always appreciate to hear from others. Please keep the emails coming. Earlier attempts at a DVD-A 5.1 were frustrating, time consuming and offered result that I believe was inferior on too many levels to spend the time. The inferior portion is three folded. One. The in ability to add gapless tracks. New software and a few late nights and I've put that one to rest thankfully. However, the steps involved are massively time consuming, extremely 'manual' for lack of a better descriptor and just boring as hell. There must be a easier method but I cannot argue with results. The second was the "share-ability" of the 5.1 mix. Besides having no method of uploading and sharing the DVD-A it also would fall upon deaf ears. Let me explain. DTS-Audio-CD is a wave file. Yes a freakin' weird wave file but still a wave that can be SHNed or FLACed and uploaded/downloaded and shared. DTS will work for pretty much any Joe Deadhead with a 5.1 setup. Which I must comment is too few of you. Come on in boys, the water is fine! Even many of my friends have yet to go the 5.1 route. A system can be in place for allot less than you think these days. Although the Denon receivers are sweet. With so few 5.1 setups we enter into a smaller minority that have DVD-A capability. Which again I believe is affordable and something to consider. So I'd be doing all the DVD-A authoring for like 12 people and then have to arrange for the lame old BnP distribution method. Or even worse...a tree!!! Yikes. The third and final reason that 5.1 DVD-A is possibly 'inferior' is the sound impovement over DTS. Yeah, the bread and butter of the whole controversy in the war of 5.1 DTS-Audio-CD vs. 5.1 DVD-A. I have again done some serious A/B-ing of the same source DVD-A and DTS-Audio-CD. There is not much, if any, audible difference. Which for the life of me I cannot explain. A 700MB file versus a 2GB file. The DVD-A, with that much more data, should be overwhelmingly better. This is simply not the case. I ask why. Is the encoding and decoding process the DTS incorporates that good? I have no problem making both. But before I spend 3 months going back and making all my DTS into DVD-A's I would like to hear from some other people. Here is where the BW tax comes in. Serious people only. I would like to offer GD 7-16-76 on both DTS-Audio-CD and DVD-A 5.1 to anybody who is willing to sit there and critically listen to both and report back on their findings. Obviously you need the capacity to A/B both versions to have that side-by-side comparison. Hopefully shed light on this and give us your insight. I really think I am way too close to the subject having made these 5.1 mixes. I would love the help of some impartial folks willing to lay down a serious review. By the way, I know many have seen or heard GD 7-16-76 in 5.1 DTS but this is an all new mix and older versions should be thrown away. Nothing wrong with them other than this is a better mix. Thanks for listening (pun intended). Dan Grateful Dead Orpheum Theatre San Francisco, CA July 16, 1976 Set 2 DVD-Audio 5.1 Mix Disc 1 - Set 2 01 [01:29] Tuning 02 [07:59] Playing In The Band > 03 [07:50] Stronger Than Dirt > 04 [08:08] Cosmic Charlie 05 [07:02] Samson & Delilah 06 [03:47] Space > 07 [05:23] Spanish Jam > 08 [03:52] Drums > 09 [07:40] The Wheel > 10 [04:48] Playing Reprise > 11 [08:51] Around & Around 12 [10:28] High Time 13 [00:51] Happy B-day Bill Graham 14 [09:52] Sugar Magnolia TT [87:59] ========================================================= Source Info SBD SBD: Master Reel -> Master Dat (44.1k) AUD FOBalcony: MAC > DAT > CD Recorded by Bob Menke using Sony ECM-280 mics > Sony TC-152 from front of balcony ========================================================= Tech Notes SHNs were decoded to wave and SF 6.0 was used to reassemble the tracks back to 1 long wave. CEP2.0 was used to align & synch both of the sources. CEP2.0 used to adjust the volume for the AUD, center and LFE channels. DiscWelder was used to author and create the DVD-Audio in 5.1. DVD Decryptor read and created the ISO image file. This incorporates 6 channels of 16/44 wave files. - Mixed by dan@am-dig.com - Shn conversion 19-JAN-2005 - Artwork by dan@am-dig.com 300dpi - For best results print at the highest resolution onto glossy photo paper. Design for use with a clear slim DVD case (inner and outer DVD artwork included). ========================================================= DTS-A Info Front Left Channel SBD: Master Reel -> Master Dat Right Channel SBD: Master Reel -> Master Dat Center Mono Mix -5db SBD: Master Reel -> Master Dat Surround Left Channel -3db FOB: ECM-280 mics > TC-152 Right Channel -3db FOB: ECM-280 mics > TC-152 Sub/LFE Mono Mix -4db SBD: Master Reel -> Master Dat ========================================================= Notes This is all that circulates in the SBD source. The AUD source was lightly EQ'ed. A slight high end cut. AUD Patch Samson approx 4:35 to fill missing part of the SBD 29:58.490 to 31:31.560 total of 01:33.070. This is noticable but not too bad. Which is really a statement to just how great the AUD source is. SBD Patch Drums approx 02:37 to fill missing part of the AUD 44:07.731 to 44:15.904 total of 0:08.172. This is smooth and most likely undetectable. Missing 22.027 crowd on AUD source between Around & Around and High Time. SBD trimmed accordingly to match with a 3 second crossfade. Smooth and most likely undetectable. ========================================================= More On DVD-Audio 5.1 Today's audio standards are moving towards multi-channel sound, like DTS, Dolby Digital, SACD and DVD-A. You will need a DVD-A compatible DVD player to listen to this 5.1 mix. Burning Instructions Use DVD Decryptor or similar program to burn as an image file (ISO) onto a DVDR. 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