DAT-heads Digest #395
Contents:
ISO: Mars Volta filmer @ Troubadour 4-3-2003 ("Clint")
FS: Sonic Studios DSM/6S-M ("Erik Heath")
Re: emphasis (Bob Ramstad)
Re: laptop to and from M-1 (dave n)
iso: pound 4 pound shows... (Nick Zuccaro)
Bright Eyes/Rilo Kiley taping policy ("Fares Halteh")
From: "Clint" <clint@distortiononline.com>
Subject: ISO: Mars Volta filmer @ Troubadour 4-3-2003
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:20:18 -0800
I am looking for the filmer of The Mars Volta @ the Troubadour in West
Hollywood on April 3, 2003. If you are him or know him (or her for that
matter) please contact me. Thank you
Distortion
clint[at]distortiononline[dot]com
From: "Erik Heath" <erikheath@hotmail.com>
Subject: FS: Sonic Studios DSM/6S-M
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:51:17 +0000
In great shape: used to record ~40 shows. Very well maintained, and
original paperwork included. Excellent on a stand, or to stealth. PA-6LC2
Bass-roll off included.
would like to get $400+s&h
will listen to all offers
thanks,
EH
erikheath@hotmail.com
From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: emphasis
Reply-To: rramstad@alum.mit.edu
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:42:46 -0800
It is absolutely critical when transferring from DAT to WAV or similar
to account for preemphasis.
That said, there are many ways to skin the proverbial cat if you are
doing a digital transfer.
1) (Recommended earlier by another poster)
Use a CD burning program that supports setting the preemphasis flag,
and if you keep the WAV files around as data, make sure you keep notes
that they require preemphasis.
Pros: least manipulation of the data so the result is essentially
identical to the source DAT
Cons: some idiots will inevitably do a DAE on the audio CD and then
wonder why the result sounds like crap, or burn the WAV to audio CD
without setting the preemphasis flag and wonder why the result sounds
like crap, or will listen to the WAV file through WinAmp or similar on
a computer and wonder why it sounds like crap
WAV files do NOT have a space in them for noting if the preemphasis
flag is set or not, and as a result, it's super easy for this
information to be lost.
2) (New suggestion)
If you have an appropriate sound editing program and are doing other
extensive work on the recording -- resampling, normalizing because
levels are really low, and so on -- most editors have the ability to
apply preemphasis which will result in corrected WAV files.
Pros: possible for people to listen to the WAV directly and have it
sound good, impossible for people to screw up later
Cons: if it isn't done properly, the correction of preemphasis can
introduce audible artifacts... modern software shouldn't have this
problem. That said, there is a slight digital generational loss by
doing this process, much like resampling.
Long story short, if you are going to be doing any extensive work on
the audio, especially resampling, it would be an excellent idea to
also deemphasize in the digital domain.
One program I know of that does the deemphasis is sox, which is kind
of a swiss army knife type tool that runs on Linux. I think any of
the standard DAW type programs (Sound Forge et al) should have
deemphasis functions, though.
I've only dealt with one recording with preemphasis, and the results
turned out pretty good, I tried both methods and ultimately decided
the corrected version was easier in the long run. I imported the 44.1
kHz DAT at 24 bits, deemphasized, then did a bunch of other work
including normalization and some fades and correction of levels in
various places, then went to 16 bits for CD audio. If I was doing it
again today, I'd probably do the same thing except import at 32 bits.
It was a long time ago but I think I used Sound Forge for everything.
Hope this information helps!
-- Bob
From: dave n <davenolanaudio@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: laptop to and from M-1
Reply-To: dave n <davenolanaudio@earthlink.net>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:47:40 -0500 (GMT-05:00)
Fred -
If you have a card slot, the VX Pocket has SPDIF in and out... They can be had as cheap as $200-250 if you look around - I have happily used mine for years now with a wide variety of software...
dave n
nyc
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From: "Fredbob Jackson" <audiowannabe@hotmail.com>
Subject: laptop to and from M-1
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:18:22 +0000
What is the best way to do digital transfers between a laptop and
a Sony M-1? I've seen a couple of boxes that boast optical SPDIF
to/from USB, but I believe the M-1 uses a coaxial SPDIF, and not
optical. But I'm not even sure. Anyone with any experience
doing this? I can't change sound cards in the laptop, so I'm
stuck with the USB or firewire lines.
Fred
From: Nick Zuccaro <nmz77@yahoo.com>
Subject: iso: pound 4 pound shows...
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:31:09 -0800 (PST)
hey there, does anybody have some charlie hunter shows with the
pound for pound lineup?? i caught them in 97 at wilmer's in
brandywine, md and haven't seen a better CH lineup since...drop
me a line if you have any shows to trade, lots of jazz and stuff
to trade in return...l8r...Nick
From: "Fares Halteh" <Halteh3@Rogers.com>
Subject: Bright Eyes/Rilo Kiley taping policy
Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:38:19 -0500
Greetings,
Bright Eyes and Rilo Kiley are doing a small European tour and I'd
like to get some of those shows taped. Before I send my friends off to tape
I am just wondering if anyone here has had any experience taping either of
these bands. I am pretty sure they are open taping but, I just want to make
certain things will run smoothly. Anyone here tape them before?
Cheers,
--Fares Halteh
Halteh3 AT Rogers DOT com
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