DAT-heads Digest #395, Volume #7 Fri, 18 Feb 05 11:50:01 EST Contents: ISO: Mars Volta filmer @ Troubadour 4-3-2003 ("Clint") FS: Sonic Studios DSM/6S-M ("Erik Heath") Re: emphasis (Bob Ramstad) Re: laptop to and from M-1 (dave n) iso: pound 4 pound shows... (Nick Zuccaro) Bright Eyes/Rilo Kiley taping policy ("Fares Halteh") ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Clint" Subject: ISO: Mars Volta filmer @ Troubadour 4-3-2003 Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 09:20:18 -0800 I am looking for the filmer of The Mars Volta @ the Troubadour in West Hollywood on April 3, 2003. If you are him or know him (or her for that matter) please contact me. Thank you Distortion clint[at]distortiononline[dot]com ------------------------------ From: "Erik Heath" Subject: FS: Sonic Studios DSM/6S-M Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 17:51:17 +0000 In great shape: used to record ~40 shows. Very well maintained, and original paperwork included. Excellent on a stand, or to stealth. PA-6LC2 Bass-roll off included. would like to get $400+s&h will listen to all offers thanks, EH erikheath@hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Bob Ramstad Subject: Re: emphasis Reply-To: rramstad@alum.mit.edu Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 10:42:46 -0800 It is absolutely critical when transferring from DAT to WAV or similar to account for preemphasis. That said, there are many ways to skin the proverbial cat if you are doing a digital transfer. 1) (Recommended earlier by another poster) Use a CD burning program that supports setting the preemphasis flag, and if you keep the WAV files around as data, make sure you keep notes that they require preemphasis. Pros: least manipulation of the data so the result is essentially identical to the source DAT Cons: some idiots will inevitably do a DAE on the audio CD and then wonder why the result sounds like crap, or burn the WAV to audio CD without setting the preemphasis flag and wonder why the result sounds like crap, or will listen to the WAV file through WinAmp or similar on a computer and wonder why it sounds like crap WAV files do NOT have a space in them for noting if the preemphasis flag is set or not, and as a result, it's super easy for this information to be lost. 2) (New suggestion) If you have an appropriate sound editing program and are doing other extensive work on the recording -- resampling, normalizing because levels are really low, and so on -- most editors have the ability to apply preemphasis which will result in corrected WAV files. Pros: possible for people to listen to the WAV directly and have it sound good, impossible for people to screw up later Cons: if it isn't done properly, the correction of preemphasis can introduce audible artifacts... modern software shouldn't have this problem. That said, there is a slight digital generational loss by doing this process, much like resampling. Long story short, if you are going to be doing any extensive work on the audio, especially resampling, it would be an excellent idea to also deemphasize in the digital domain. One program I know of that does the deemphasis is sox, which is kind of a swiss army knife type tool that runs on Linux. I think any of the standard DAW type programs (Sound Forge et al) should have deemphasis functions, though. I've only dealt with one recording with preemphasis, and the results turned out pretty good, I tried both methods and ultimately decided the corrected version was easier in the long run. I imported the 44.1 kHz DAT at 24 bits, deemphasized, then did a bunch of other work including normalization and some fades and correction of levels in various places, then went to 16 bits for CD audio. If I was doing it again today, I'd probably do the same thing except import at 32 bits. It was a long time ago but I think I used Sound Forge for everything. Hope this information helps! -- Bob ------------------------------ From: dave n Subject: Re: laptop to and from M-1 Reply-To: dave n Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 15:47:40 -0500 (GMT-05:00) Fred - If you have a card slot, the VX Pocket has SPDIF in and out... They can be had as cheap as $200-250 if you look around - I have happily used mine for years now with a wide variety of software... dave n nyc ============================================================ From: "Fredbob Jackson" Subject: laptop to and from M-1 Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 17:18:22 +0000 What is the best way to do digital transfers between a laptop and a Sony M-1? I've seen a couple of boxes that boast optical SPDIF to/from USB, but I believe the M-1 uses a coaxial SPDIF, and not optical. But I'm not even sure. Anyone with any experience doing this? I can't change sound cards in the laptop, so I'm stuck with the USB or firewire lines. Fred ------------------------------ From: Nick Zuccaro Subject: iso: pound 4 pound shows... Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 05:31:09 -0800 (PST) hey there, does anybody have some charlie hunter shows with the pound for pound lineup?? i caught them in 97 at wilmer's in brandywine, md and haven't seen a better CH lineup since...drop me a line if you have any shows to trade, lots of jazz and stuff to trade in return...l8r...Nick ------------------------------ From: "Fares Halteh" Subject: Bright Eyes/Rilo Kiley taping policy Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2005 11:38:19 -0500 Greetings, Bright Eyes and Rilo Kiley are doing a small European tour and I'd like to get some of those shows taped. Before I send my friends off to tape I am just wondering if anyone here has had any experience taping either of these bands. I am pretty sure they are open taping but, I just want to make certain things will run smoothly. Anyone here tape them before? Cheers, --Fares Halteh Halteh3 AT Rogers DOT com ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. 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