DAT-heads Digest #406
Contents:
iPod Audio ("Sherm Clow")
Re: Best Way to Transefr from DAT to Computer (Bob Ramstad)
shure or etymotic ("dwb")
whats the best way to connect my d8 to a stand alone cd burner? (Stephen Stroud)
unrest ("john van")
ISO: recent Buddy Miller shows ("Jim Kelly")
Phish 10/31/94 or 10/21/95 on VHS (KindTaper@aol.com)
Phish 10/31/98 on VHS (KindTaper@aol.com)
From: "Sherm Clow" <sclow@utah.gov>
Subject: iPod Audio
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:48:11 -0700
In lieu of any definite quality differences between MP3 and AAC, it may
be best to follow the Apple line and use AAC with the iPod. Note that
iTunes is now cross platform and an excellent converter to all
compressed forms. Then there is Apple lossless, also available in
iTunes. As long as you have the full WAV or AIFF file, it probably
doesn't make much difference what compression you use, since the iPod is
mostly for convenience anyway. Sure be nice if sometime we could use an
iPod for recording...
From: Bob Ramstad <rramstad@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Best Way to Transefr from DAT to Computer
Reply-To: rramstad@alum.mit.edu
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 10:30:26 -0800
> From: "Vernon Webb" <vernon@cwnj.com>
> Subject: Best Way to Transefr from DAT to Computer
> Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005 14:52:58 -0500
>
> Please forgive me if this has been covered a million times already or not, I have been
> away for awhile (from the list that is) and I've learned that everyone is sort of
> heading towards the whole computer digital thing and am thinking of converting my
> entire DAT list to shn or flac. So obviously, my first question is what is everyone
> using today? I hear FLAC is the choice of most DAT-heads, but am not sure. I've used
> shn and have not had any troubles with it.
>
> My next, major question is, what is the best way to transfer from my DAT to the
> computer. I have a MIDIMAN interface from A Audio that I am using to patch into my
> computer from my Sony D5 using a patch cable from Core Sound. I have successfully
> transferred some music to my computer but have noticed that perhaps the transfers
> might not have been what the should be quailty-wise. Might be my imagination as I am a
> perfectionist. I guess my reasons for asking are because I recall a thread a while
> back that discussed this issue and if I'm not mistaken I recall something in regards
> to the transfer might not really be a true transfer but rather a conversion from
> digital to analog and back back, which sort of defeats the whole purpose of digital
> thing.
>
> So anyway, if anyone has any comments or suggestion I would appreciate them. Thanks.
>
This is a very very complicated question.
I can tell you what I use. I have an audio capable DAT drive that I
purchased from Mashtek. I have it connected to a box running a
version of Linux (White Box Enterprise Linux) but any version of Linux
would do. I use read_dat to import from the DATs.
This avoids the whole soundcard and timing issue entirely, and as a
bonus, the DATs are read in at 2x normal speed.
If you don't want to administer a Linux box permanently, there are
bootable Linuxes like Knoppix which run from CD-ROM. With a little
bit of work, you could probably come up with a system that would boot
nicely from CD for Linux, and otherwise would boot Windows from a hard
drive. Use FAT32 for the partition where you put the audio data, and
it can be seen from both Windows and Knoppix. (I haven't done this
myself, but I bet it would be pretty straightforward.)
Once you've got the material in the computer as WAV files, there's no
end of what you can do with them. I do prefer FLAC to SHN because
FLAC accomodates tagging of artist, title and stuff like that more
easily.
It is important when doing the transfers to note if the source has
preemphasis and use a tool like sox to deemphasize the resulting WAV
if the original had preemphasis.
You'll probably also want to break the resulting WAVs into tracks. I
like to import entire tapes all at once into one massive file and then
break the tracks under Windows using CD Wave, but there are tools to
do that under Linux. It's important to use a tool that breaks on
sector boundaries so the resulting files sound right when burned to
audio CD.
Basically this is a super complicated area, but this is a thumbnail of
what I use and how I handle things.
I've also found out there that many many many DATs have in fact been
mastered to FLAC or SHN already, and so it is often easier to trade
for something than master it yourself...
I hope this helps. Obviously many details would require extensive
comments on my part to make clear... but this is an outline, and
frankly filling in the details is part of the learning process. Maybe
I'll write up a web page someday...
-- Bob
From: "dwb" <slowtrain@comcast.net>
Subject: shure or etymotic
Reply-To: <slowtrain@comcast.net>
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 15:51:16 -0500
Again, looking to tap collective experience:
Shure or Etymotic bud-earphones.. Models ~$150 and less, is there a clear
winner between the two companies?
From: Stephen Stroud <stroud@sympatico.ca>
Subject: whats the best way to connect my d8 to a stand alone cd burner?
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 16:39:17 -0500
i just got a d8 and now i want to know the best way to connect it to my
cd burner, the burner has optical and coaxil (spdf) is there a cord that
is sony 7 pin on one end and optical or coaxil on the other or do i need
something in between
From: "john van" <jvan1975@hotmail.com>
Subject: unrest
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 12:47:40 -0900
Did anyone record the Unrest reunion shows in D.C. last weekend? Thanks.
From: "Jim Kelly" <musicjaime@hotmail.com>
Subject: ISO: recent Buddy Miller shows
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 21:09:43 -0500
If anyone has taped any of the recent Buddy Miller shows, please drop me a
line. I missed the Boston show last week due to a business trip. Would love
to track down a recent one. Have lots to trade.
Thanks,
Jim
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Phish 10/31/94 or 10/21/95 on VHS
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:04:54 EST
Does anyone know the original filmers of these two shows, or are you on the
list? If so, please contact me privately.
Also, has anyone ever sync'd the released SBD to a VHS or DVD of the
10/31/94?
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
From: KindTaper@aol.com
Subject: Phish 10/31/98 on VHS
Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 23:05:33 EST
I tried to trade with a guy a long time ago for a VHS of this show, but he
never got back to me. Does anyone have, even a decent copy of just the
Loaded
set or the whole show? Please let me know.
Thanks,
Wes
Kindtaper@aol.com
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