DAT-heads Digest #416
Contents:
ISO: Social Distortion tapers/masters ("supahman")
Please go tape OZRIC TENTACLES! (they don't mind!) (acffh)
Ogg-FLAC ("Vernon Webb")
FS: SONY WMD-DT1 DAT Walkman w/all accessories ("Dennis Rooks")
FS: Shure S15A Stand ("Jon Koch")
NR vs. No NR / Cool Edit advise ("Gary Davis")
U2 Tapers group (Mark)
ATTN: Euro Tapers: Mike Watt & The Secondmen touring this spring (Ryan Gear)
* ISO folks to tape Gang of Four ("Sharon Tunes")
Re: ATTN: Euro Tapers: Mike Watt & The Secondmen touring this spring ("Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.")
gear for sale ("Robert O'Haire")
DAT content spotted / ISO Ralph Stanley ("zach")
FS - Portadat, Ecocharges, stand, DAT tapes (ngregory@nc.rr.com)
Wishbone Ash ("terrapin")
From: "supahman" <supahman@cox.net>
Subject: ISO: Social Distortion tapers/masters
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 10:08:48 -0700
will be taping Social D next week, would like to set up a few trades with
other tapers, current, or older shows...i have another master as well, from
latelast year.
please email off list.
thanks!
From: acffh <morst@tds.net>
Subject: Please go tape OZRIC TENTACLES! (they don't mind!)
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 12:29:13 -0600
I am posting this for Drider - we would love to trade for whatever you
can record! Thanks!
STRANGE TRIPS is pleased to announce that the incredible OZRIC
TENTACLES are ready to kick off their 2005 US Tour in less than two
weeks. Joining them for this whirlwind tour will be The Solar Fire
Lightshow. So grab some friends and come out for an evening of
extremely pure high energy music and spacey "Out of this World" cosmic
psychedelia! For more information please see:
http://www.ozrics.com (or) http://www.Strange-Trips.com
OZRIC TENTACLES 2005 US TOUR
MARCH 17 - BOSTON, MA - MIDDLE EAST
MARCH 18 - BURLINGTON, VT - HIGHER GROUND
MARCH 19 - NYC - BOWERY BALLROOM
MARCH 20 - FALLS CHURCH, VA - STATE THEATRE
MARCH 22 - CHARLOTTE, NC - NEIGHBORHOOD THEATRE
MARCH 23 - RICHMOND, VA - CANAL CLUB
MARCH 24 - BALTIMORE, MD - THE FUNK BOX
MARCH 25 - CLEVELAND, OH - BEACHLAND BALLROOM
MARCH 26 - CHICAGO, IL - THE ABBEY
MARCH 27 - MILWAUKEE, WI - SHANK HALL
* MARCH 29 - SACRAMENTO, CA - HARLOW'S NIGHT CLUB
* MARCH 30 - SAN FRANCISCO, CA - THE INDEPENDENT
* APRIL 1 - MEXICALI, MEXICO - BAJA PROG FESTIVAL
* w/o The Solar Fire Lightshow
from http://btat.wagnerone.com/search.php
Location London, ? England
Taping Status Audio, Board Access
Note DAT BA allowed freely in the USA, however in the UK taping them
must be done very covertly because of venue rules.
From: "Vernon Webb" <vernon@cwnj.com>
Subject: Ogg-FLAC
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 13:51:20 -0500
Can anyone tell me what's the purpose of the Ogg-FLAC checkbox in the FLAC frontend?
Thanks
From: "Dennis Rooks" <den@teleport.com>
Subject: FS: SONY WMD-DT1 DAT Walkman w/all accessories
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 11:58:51 -0800
Just fired her up after years of being stored, works and sounds as good as
new.
Includes original carrying case, remote w/dedicated earphones, owner's
manual.
Also includes these accessories purchased separately:
submini-to-mini adapter for remote (allows plugging any headphones into
remote)
AC power adapter
Car power adapter
A great deal at $65
Photo at
http://home.teleport.com/~den/images/Sony%20DAT%20Walkman/WMD-DT1.JPG
From: "Jon Koch" <jon@mrazmerized.com>
Subject: FS: Shure S15A Stand
Reply-To: jon@mrazmerized.com
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:36:33 -0800 (PST)
$75 shipped. trying to sell this one off b/c i got a new bogen 17' stand.
few things of note is this does NOT come with the original carrying case or
the small bronze ring that screws onto the top of the stand to assure that
the top section cannot be pushed into the rest of the body. this should
never happen unless it is purposely done, however, and even then should be
easy to get out with pliers. any sort of 5'8" ring can be put onto the top
to stop this from happening. you can get them from home depot for about 5
cents or so.
-Jon
"it only gets better"
From: "Gary Davis" <g@hoxnet.com>
Subject: NR vs. No NR / Cool Edit advise
Reply-to: g@hoxnet.com
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 14:51:59 -0800
There is some debate as to whether all tapes should be sent out
as "pure bits" or whether we should do post-production to make
them sound better.
The argument for "pure bits" is that then everyone can process the
tapes themselves to their own liking. The problem with this
argument is that the vast majority of people won't bother, and they'll
just listen to, and redistribute, the tapes exactly the way they got
them.
I'm a big proponent of the idea that you should never send out a
tape until you've done everything you can to make it sound the
best. This is assuming that you have the expertise, and tools, and
the monitoring system to judge the sound - but if you do - I'd much
rather if YOU would NR, EQ, and edit the tape before sending it to
me, so I can go right into the listening experience, as if I had
bought the tape from the store.
MORE SPECIFICALLY ON THE SUBJECT OF COOL EDIT NR.
There is a specific trick necessary to make the "Noise Reduction"
feature in Cool Edit work well, and that trick is to increase the FFT
size. This will GREATLY reduce the "metallic" sound that the hiss
becomes. I recommend a setting of 16K (the exact number is
16384). The other trick is to find a "noise sample" which contains
all of the noise you want to remove, but nothing else - ie, no clicks
or pops or talking and certainly no music. This can be useful not
just to remove tape hiss but also pre-amp hiss and "room tone"
and get down to just the music.
If you are working on a tape with a great deal of noise, even if you
do everything right, you will end up with a slight metallic sound as
an artifact. I have decided, after much listening, that as long as the
*music* sounds exactly right, I'm willing to put up with the *noise"
sounding a little strange. You are basically trading a LOT of hiss
for a LITTLE metallic sound, and I think this is a good trade-off. Of
course, some people will disagree.
There are also situations where massive noise reduction leaves the
music a little dull. In this situations, I find that EQing the treble
back up can solve the problem. You might ask, aren't you just
turing back up the noise that you just reduced? Because the noise
reduction is "intelligent", this is not the case. You might reduce
the hiss by 15 or 20dB, and then turn the treble back up by 4-5dB,
you are still getting a 10-15dB improvement in S/N.
I've made a number of tapes of solo guitar which are hissy. This is
very delicate music and I listened very hard to make sure the guitar
after the NR/EQ sounded *exactly* the same as the guitar going in.
Today, when I listen back to these tapes I'm amazed because I
don't hear any problems - just a perfect guitar sound and no hiss -
quite different from the original tapes which sounded more like a
non-Dolby cassette.
As always, YMMV, but if you use your tools properly and listen
carefully to what you are doing, you can get superb results with the
Cool Edit family of programs, and I would guess, with other
programs using the same type of noise reduction.
--Gary
P.s. with Cool Edit Pro or Audition, and a relatively fast computer,
you can actually listen to / adjust NR settings in realtime, which
makes it much easier to evaluate noise redution than it was just a
few years ago.
From: Mark <rusttape@yahoo.com>
Subject: U2 Tapers group
Date: Thu, 10 Mar 2005 18:22:14 -0800 (PST)
If you are a taper and would like to trade from master
tapes from other tapers please check this link out.
http://launch.groups.yahoo.com/group/U2-2005-tapers/
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From: Ryan Gear <ryan@crewcial.org>
Subject: ATTN: Euro Tapers: Mike Watt & The Secondmen touring this spring
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:15:07 -0500
Watt has always been open to all tapers, so go out and tape! I'd dig a
copy if anyone happens to tape any of these shows, and have lots of Watt
and Watt related stuff to trade, as well as quite a few masters of my own.
This tour, he's playing an opera piece about the illness he nearly died
from 4-5 years ago, also from the album _The Second Man's Middle Stand_,
that came out last August.
more info
http://hootpage.com/hoot_elmartooeurotour2005.html
*"el mar cura todo in europe too" tour 2005*
monday, april 4 -* nighttown theater*, rotterdam, netherlands
tuesday, april 5 -* gebaude 9*, koln, germany
wednesday, april 6 -* knust*, hamburg, germany
thursday, april 7 -* starclub*, dresden, germany
friday, april 8 -* postbahnhof*, berlin, germany
saturday, april 9 -* gleis 22*, munster, germany
sunday, april 10 -* karlsorbahnhof*, heidelberg, germany
monday, april 11 -* szene wien*, vienna, austria
tuesday, april 12 -* kset*, zagreb, croatia
wednesday, april 13 -* ortoclub*, ljubljana, slovenia
thursday, april 14 -* rockhouse*, salzburg, austria
friday, april 15 -* manufaktur*, schorndorf, germany
saturday, april 16 -* fri-son*, fribourg, switzerland
sunday, april 17 -* el lokal*, zurich, switzerland
monday, april 18 -* kab-usine*, geneva, switzerland
wednesday, april 20 -* il covo*, bologna, italy
thursday, april 21 -* teatro comunale*, gradara, italy
friday, april 22 -* interzona*, verona, italy
saturday, april 23 -* auditorium flog.*, florence, italy
sunday, april 24 -* brancaleone*, rome, italy
monday, april 25 -* la scuderia*, terracina, italy
thursday, april 28 -* colegiata*, gijon, spain
friday, april 29 -* azkena*, bilbao, spain
saturday, april 30 -* la roca del valles*, la laroca, spain
monday, may 2 -* ica*, london, england
tuesday, may 3 -* hev'n and hell*, liverpool, england
wednesday, may 4 -* cabaret voltaire*, edinburgh, scotland
thursday, may 5 -* mono*, glasgow, scotland
friday, may 6 -* charlotte*, leicester, england
saturday, may 7 -* the freebutt*, brighton, england
sunday, may 8 -* muziekodroom*, hasselt, belgium
monday, may 9 -* ancient belgique*, brussels, belgium
tuesday, may 10 -* paradiso (upstairs)*, amsterdam, netherlands
wednesday, may 11 -* auntie annie's*, belfast, northern ireland
thursday, may 12 -* whelan's*, dublin, ireland
friday, may 13 -* pine lodge*, myrtleville, ireland
r.
From: "Sharon Tunes" <sharontunes@hotmail.com>
Subject: * ISO folks to tape Gang of Four
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:50:45 -0600
Would be willing to cover costs for anybody able to tape any of these shows:
Mon 05/02/05 San Francisco, CA The Fillmore
Tue 05/03/05 San Francisco, CA The Fillmore
Thu 05/05/05 Portland, OR Crystal Ballroom
Fri 05/06/05 Seattle, WA Showbox
Sat 05/07/05 Vancouver, BC Commodore Ballroom
Tue 05/10/05 Minneapolis, MN Quest Club
Sat 05/14/05 Toronto, ON Phoenix Concert Theatre
Mon 05/16/05 Boston, MA Avalon
Sat 05/21/05 Philadelphia, PA Theatre Of Living Arts
From: "Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr." <wayne@hoxnet.com>
Subject: Re: ATTN: Euro Tapers: Mike Watt & The Secondmen touring this spring
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 00:53:21 -0600
Ryan Gear wrote:
> Watt has always been open to all tapers, so go out and tape! I'd dig a
> copy if anyone happens to tape any of these shows, and have lots of Watt
> and Watt related stuff to trade, as well as quite a few masters of my own.
> This tour, he's playing an opera piece about the illness he nearly died
> from 4-5 years ago, also from the album _The Second Man's Middle Stand_,
> that came out last August.
>
> more info
> http://hootpage.com/hoot_elmartooeurotour2005.html
>
>
> *"el mar cura todo in europe too" tour 2005*
>
>
>
> monday, april 4 -* nighttown theater*, rotterdam, netherlands
>
> tuesday, april 5 -* gebaude 9*, koln, germany
>
> wednesday, april 6 -* knust*, hamburg, germany
>
> thursday, april 7 -* starclub*, dresden, germany
>
> friday, april 8 -* postbahnhof*, berlin, germany
>
> saturday, april 9 -* gleis 22*, munster, germany
>
> sunday, april 10 -* karlsorbahnhof*, heidelberg, germany
>
> monday, april 11 -* szene wien*, vienna, austria
>
> tuesday, april 12 -* kset*, zagreb, croatia
>
> wednesday, april 13 -* ortoclub*, ljubljana, slovenia
>
> thursday, april 14 -* rockhouse*, salzburg, austria
>
> friday, april 15 -* manufaktur*, schorndorf, germany
>
> saturday, april 16 -* fri-son*, fribourg, switzerland
>
> sunday, april 17 -* el lokal*, zurich, switzerland
>
> monday, april 18 -* kab-usine*, geneva, switzerland
>
> wednesday, april 20 -* il covo*, bologna, italy
>
> thursday, april 21 -* teatro comunale*, gradara, italy
>
> friday, april 22 -* interzona*, verona, italy
>
> saturday, april 23 -* auditorium flog.*, florence, italy
>
> sunday, april 24 -* brancaleone*, rome, italy
>
> monday, april 25 -* la scuderia*, terracina, italy
>
> thursday, april 28 -* colegiata*, gijon, spain
>
> friday, april 29 -* azkena*, bilbao, spain
>
> saturday, april 30 -* la roca del valles*, la laroca, spain
>
> monday, may 2 -* ica*, london, england
>
> tuesday, may 3 -* hev'n and hell*, liverpool, england
>
> wednesday, may 4 -* cabaret voltaire*, edinburgh, scotland
>
> thursday, may 5 -* mono*, glasgow, scotland
>
> friday, may 6 -* charlotte*, leicester, england
>
> saturday, may 7 -* the freebutt*, brighton, england
>
> sunday, may 8 -* muziekodroom*, hasselt, belgium
>
> monday, may 9 -* ancient belgique*, brussels, belgium
>
> tuesday, may 10 -* paradiso (upstairs)*, amsterdam, netherlands
>
> wednesday, may 11 -* auntie annie's*, belfast, northern ireland
>
> thursday, may 12 -* whelan's*, dublin, ireland
>
> friday, may 13 -* pine lodge*, myrtleville, ireland
>
>
>
> r.
Bring Mike a six-pack of some good (preferably organic) fruit juice and
he'll be your friend forever. He's a really really nice friendly guy and
will go-the-extra-mile with the house staff to let you tape. He's a
riot to party with after the show. Just be nice and be real and he'll
extend every courtesy possible to ensure that you have an enjoyable
experience before, during, and after the show. Tell him Paul and Wayne
from St. Louis said "Hi."
--
Wayne D. Hoxsie Jr.
wayne@hoxnet.com
PGP Key ID 138BCEE1
From: "Robert O'Haire" <plummer@nyc.rr.com>
Subject: gear for sale
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 02:13:27 -0500
Hey folks...I've upgraded to the Sound Devices 744t and am looking to
find a new home for this stuff. Let me know if you have any question
on these things. Thanks, Robert
Sound Devices MP2 mic preamp - Purchased new from Sonic Sense.
Excellent condition with DC power cord, manual & original box.
Features: 15v or 48v phantom power, separate L-R continuous gain
(6-66db gain range), Lundahl input transformers, dual outputs (1/8
stereo and XLR), 2-position high pass filtering, mic input limiter
option, 7-segment output meters, MS decoding, high-output headphone
output. Runs on 2 AA batteries or can be used with a 5V to 14V DC
external battery. Looking to get $400 obo.
Graham & Patten ADC-20 - (20 bit A/D converter) 48k version.
Purchased new from Sonic Sense. Includes DC power cord & manual. Some
minor signs of wear..mainly gaffers tape residue on unit. In perfect
working order.
Features: Precision 20-bit signal processing, 44.1 or 48kHz internal
reference, AES3id reference input between 30 and 50kHz , LED level
indicators for normal and overload conditions, active balanced and
unbalanced outputs, adjustable input range. Looking to get $225 obo.
Tascam DAP1 - Purchased used from original owner. Some minor
cosmetic wear...this unit has seen some use but is in perfect working
order. Includes original box, manual, power supply, brand new
battery & DC echocharge adapter.
Features: Multiple sampling rates (48kHz, 44.1kHz, 32kHz), S/PDIF
coax digital I/O, RCA unbalanced analog I/O, SCMS free recording, XLR
mic/line inputs with +48v phantom power, -20dB pad and limiter, 2
hour battery life from 1-1/2 hour charging time. Looking to get $650
obo.
Schoeps KC5G Colette active cables (pair) - Purchased used from Sonic
Sense. Excellent condition.
Looking to get $525 for the pair. obo.
From: "zach" <zach@funkytulip.com>
Subject: DAT content spotted / ISO Ralph Stanley
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 05:07:58 -0700
Anyone see the DA-P1 last night on C.S.I. ??
Even my wife recognized it :-)
P.s.
Anyone have a copy of the Ralph Stanley show at the Boulder Theatre in
Boulder, CO from a few weeks back?
Thousands of hours to trade....
Peace,
Zach
From: ngregory@nc.rr.com
Subject: FS - Portadat, Ecocharges, stand, DAT tapes
Reply-to: ngregory@nc.rr.com
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 10:54:58 -0500
Posting for a friend, contact him at the email below.
==================================================================
Selling a few items I have laying around.
HHb PDR1000 PortaDat in excellent shape. Comes with 2 professionally recelled internal batteries, 3 battery chargers for the internals which hold 2 batteries each, a brand new PortaBrace bag with the upgraded, heavy-duty leather shoulder strap and a 12v sla with 4-pin cable. $750 shipped.
Eco-Charge EC-90 dual 6v and 12v output with charger - $150 shipped
Eco-Charge EC-90 dual 12v, brand new used once with charger - $150 shipped
Bogen/Monfrotto 3322 black stacker stand. 13' high, new never used, comes with 3/8" > 5/8" thread adapter - $90 shipped.
40 brand new BJ Studios 120 minute DAT tapes in boxes of 10 - $30 for 10 shipped
Box of 10, brand new Quantegy 124 minute DAT tapes - $55 shipped
x9 90 meter data tapes - $25 shipped
Please contact Jason at gottajiboo40@mac.com if interested.
Thanks!
From: "terrapin" <terrapin1@adelphia.net>
Subject: Wishbone Ash
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 11:17:58 -0500
Wishbone Ash is coming thru next week. Anyone aware of their current taping
policy? I thought they were ok with taping but I couldn't find anything on
the band's website.
many thanks!
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