DAT-heads Digest #419, Volume #7 Sun, 13 Mar 05 12:50:01 EST Contents: Recording Level Bar Info for the Edirol R-1 (David & Irma Holtkamp) Anyone taping Tabla Beat Science in Chicago Tapers welcome at Heavenly Jams Band, 4/16, ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: David & Irma Holtkamp Subject: Recording Level Bar Info for the Edirol R-1 Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 10:21:53 -0700 --=====================_1189306921==_ Content-Type: multipart/related; type="multipart/alternative"; boundary="=====================_1189306921==.REL" --=====================_1189306921==.REL Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=====================_1189306921==.ALT" --=====================_1189306921==.ALT Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed A technical note of interest to those using the Edirol R-1 as a field recorder. I've learned that the latest ROM has a more usefully calibrated "bar scale" for recording level. I made a small strip of paper with the info below and taped it to the face of my R-1. It is a great help in figuring out recording levels. I post the message from Edirol below. I still don't have an answer on tweaking the AGC limiter in the R-1. Best wishes, David Holtkamp Los Alamos, NM 46e361fb.jpg Thank you for your submission to the Edirol FAQ system on 2/25/2005 5:21:27 PM. Your question is answered below: Question I am trying to understand the limiter operation on my R-1. The threshold for limiting seems to be -9 dB (yes?). Is that references to 0 dB at the clipping threshold of the A/D? The limiter seems to have a fast attack and rather slow decay. Is there a way to adjust the limiter attack, decay, or threshold value? Can you provide me with more information on the limiter operation. Also the display level indicators seem to take whichever (left or right) is louder and display the peak. Is that correct? What is the scale calibration of the display? It looks like it is highly nonlinear (even in units of dB). Thanks for your help! David Holtkamp Answer Greetings, In R-1 firmware version 1.03, the level meter was changed to this log scale: =========+===================== Number of boxes Range =========+===================== Nothing -infinite to -50.0 1 -50.0 to -40.0 2 -40.0 to -36.0 3 -36.0 to -33.0 4 -33.0 to -30.0 5 -30.0 to -27.0 6 -27.0 to -24.0 7 -24.0 to -21.0 8 -21.0 to -18.0 9 -18.0 to -15.0 10 -15.0 to -12.0 11 -12.0 to - 9.0 12 - 9.0 to - 6.0 13 - 6.0 to - 3.0 14 - 3.0 to 0.0 15 0.0 to Clip =========+==========_NextPart_000_0031_01C51B6F.436353F0== --=====================_1189306921==.ALT Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" A technical note of interest to those using the Edirol R-1 as a field recorder. I've learned that the latest ROM has a more usefully calibrated "bar scale" for recording level. I made a small strip of paper with the info below and taped it to the face of my R-1. It is a great help in figuring out recording levels. I post the message from Edirol below. I still don't have an answer on tweaking the AGC limiter in the R-1.
Best wishes,
David Holtkamp
Los Alamos, NM

Thank you for your submission to the Edirol FAQ system on 2/25/2005 5:21:27 PM. Your question is answered below:

Question

I am trying to understand the limiter operation on my R-1. The threshold for limiting seems to be -9 dB (yes?). Is that references to 0 dB at the clipping threshold of the A/D? The limiter seems to have a fast attack and rather slow decay. Is there a way to adjust the limiter attack, decay, or threshold value? Can you provide me with more information on the limiter operation.

Also the display level indicators seem to take whichever (left or right) is louder and display the peak. Is that correct? What is the scale calibration of the display? It looks like it is highly nonlinear (even in units of dB). Thanks for your help! David Holtkamp
Answer

Greetings,

In R-1 firmware version 1.03, the level meter was changed to this log scale:
=========+=====================
Number
of boxes Range
=========+=====================
Nothing -infinite to -50.0
1 -50.0 to -40.0
2 -40.0 to -36.0
3 -36.0 to -33.0
4 -33.0 to -30.0
5 -30.0 to -27.0
6 -27.0 to -24.0
7 -24.0 to -21.0
8 -21.0 to -18.0
9 -18.0 to -15.0
10 -15.0 to -12.0
11 -12.0 to - 9.0
12 - 9.0 to - 6.0
13 - 6.0 to - 3.0
14 - 3.0 to 0.0
15 0.0 to Clip
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Don't know if I'll be able to be there at all, let alone tape it. New baby due any minute. Please get in touch if you're planning on taping the show. Thanks, Olaf ------------------------------ From: Subject: Tapers welcome at Heavenly Jams Band, 4/16, Date: Sun, 13 Mar 2005 11:59:59 -0600 Just thought I'd post this again. The Heavenly Jams Band is a project of Yosi Piamenta and Oteil Burbridge, though Oteil won't be there this time. His brother Kofi will be playing flute, as will Yosi's brother Avi. You can find more info at http://www.piamenta.com The show is at Crash Mansion, 199 Bowery, NYC. http://www.crashmansion.com/ Psychedelic, funky, heavy, spacy rock, with Middle Eastern flavor. Should be an excellent night of music. Yosi never disappoints. Check out Piamenta shows (lossless or lossy formats) at http://www.archive.org/audio/etreelisting-browse.php?cat=Piamenta%20Band Olaf ------------------------------ ** FOR YOUR REFERENCE ** To unsubscribe from this digest, please send email to dat-heads-unsubscribe@datheads.phish.net If your email address has changed, you may (optionally) send the message to dat-heads-unsubscribe-oldaddress=olddomain@datheads.phish.net and the old address will be removed. Problems or questions about a subscription should be addressed via these avenues and then if needed to dat-heads-owner@datheads.phish.net or postmaster@datheads.phish.net never the list itself You can submit a message for inclusion in the next digest via this address: Internet: dat-heads@datheads.phish.net Archives of DAT-Heads digests and related files are available on the DAT-Heads home page: http://www.solorb.com/dat-heads/ End of DAT-Heads Digest ******************************